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== Age? ==
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Why is he depicted as a year older than the rest of the rookies? --[[User:Xavier1261|Xavier1261]] ([[User talk:Xavier1261|talk]]) 00:45, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Unless I'm mistaken, the ages originate from databooks in most cases--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:49, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Well alright but it seems odd considering he was 12-13 in Part 1 plus the wiki had it as 15-16 a few weeks/months ago--[[User:Xavier1261|Xavier1261]] ([[User talk:Xavier1261|talk]]) 00:48, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Sage Transformation ==
 
 
I believe Sasuke should be marked as a (former) Sage Transformation user as he had the Cursed Seal of Heaven, and Jugo said that his and his "copies" tranformation were the same thing. Any opinions? [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 19:52, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:My opinion is that this chapter made things complicate where they didn't have to be complicated. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:16, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Except he didn't use Sage Transformation. He used the Cursed Seal of Heaven. A copy it may be, but that doesn't make it the same thing.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:50, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
He didn't, Sage Transformation is what Jugo's clan is using ...
 
* Their body absorbing natural energies, and an enzyme reacting to it, transforming their bodies ... It's not a Senjutsu chakra as that's a balance of 3 energies, and they aren't manipulating natural energies themselves.
 
* Curse Marks/Cursed Seal Transformation use Senjutsu chakra and an enzyme based on Jugo clan's,
 
the difference is that the former is like a KKG, the latter is a tattoo and the workings are similar but not the same.
 
But to make it simple, Sage Transformation is Natural Energy causing them to mutate due to their bodies passively absorbing it and the enzyme reacting, while Cursed Seal Transformation is Senjutsu Chakra (but not a Sage Mode 0_o) + Transformation
 
At least that's how it appears to be--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:10, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Ok i get that...but i believe the curse seal works just like Jugo's clan abilities, but not in a perfect way since cursed seal users are only limited to one type of transformation...and i believe the whole Orochimaru Senjutsu chakra thing was a mistranslation of him talking about his revival. But i get the general idea. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 16:54, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Jugo's works {KKG-absorbs natural energy, enzyme causes body to mutate and triggers rage and madness = sage transformation] CS works [a modified enzyme of Jugo transforms a body, draws chakra, gives Orochimaru's senjutsu chakra] I don't think there are any mistranslations, raw is out already--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:07, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Uhm, didn't Jūgo himself say it was called Cursed Seal Transformation to those whom cursed seals were applied to? The only way someone can have Sage Transformation is if they're from Jūgo's clan.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yep, Sage Transformation is an actual result of their KKG, while Cursed Seal Transformation is due to a tattoo--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:30, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Can the resident translator clear these doubts off? [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 20:36, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:But the thing is that the Curse Seal is made from Jugo's enzymes with some modifications, which in a sense is the same as Kakashi using a Sharingan, or Danzo and Madara using the Wood Release because they took the body part/DNA of the individual using said KKG. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 20:44, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Suki is gone, ask the new S.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:45, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The enzyme in itself isn't a KKG, only a result of it, like a fluid the bodies of a Jugo Clan's members do produce.
 
A Cursed Seal host doesn't produce the enzyme because he/she have no such KKG, it's a sealing tattoo with the modified enzyme in it. EDIT: to make it simple, Sasuke nor other CS users didn't use Sage Transformation as that's something only Jugo Clan's member and Kabuto due to having Jugo's DNA can/could use--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:59, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Hum...ok...i actually reached that conclusion myself, it actually makes somewhat more sense as whole since i never understood how a Cursed gave such a power-up by just forcing more chakra out of the user...i guess this would explain both the power up and the drain caused by the seal. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 21:59, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== P1 and P2 Infobox pics ==
 
 
I noticed earlier that someone added a Part 2 image to the infobox. I made a contribution myself, and it worked really well. So why exactly was it reversed? If those are outdated images of the characters, I think it's pretty unprofessional to not at least have both images selectable for the infobox. Look at the One Piece wikia.. and I know, I know, we do things differently here. but the One Piece Wiki uses both pre-timeskip and post-timeskip pictures for the characters, and nobody seems to complain, since they're recent. What exactly is the problem with keeping the infobox images accurate to the current plot of the manga? --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 23:21, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
:We list them as they were first introduced. For part 1 characters, that means part 1 images. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:42, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Deuteragonist in intro? ==
 
 
Why not add Deuteragonist in the intro? Its pretty clear at this point (it was in part 1 actually) ? I can add it myself, of course but just wondering is it not allowed or something? Very good article, like the rest :) Keep up the good work Narutopedia!{{unsigned|178.223.69.107}}
 
:You do understand that Sasuke helped Itachi for self-serving reasons yes? You also do recall that he said he's still going to seek revenge yes? Sasuke's brief moment of inadvertently aiding the shinobi doesn't call for a change in his introduction.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:57, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sasuke_Uchiha/Archive_6#Deuteragonist [[User:SaiST|SaiST]] ([[User talk:SaiST|talk]]) 14:25, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@ Cerez Since when Deuteragonist has to be on Protagonists side?
 
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deuteragonist
 
"This person can be either with, or against The Protagonist - thus sometimes pulling double duty as a main Antagonist, though they are rarely the primary antagonist in these scenarios"
 
 
== "..first named technique.." ==
 
 
Referring to Tsukuyomi. While I do not share the opinion that Sasuke has used the ability, I understand this wiki's decision to list it as one of his techniques due to the 3rd Databook's description of Susanoo's prerequisites. Still, none of the Genjutsu Sasuke's cast from his Mangekyo Sharingan have been identified as Tsukuyomi. I believe that the earlier edit(s), in which the first ability of Sasuke's Mangekyō Sharingan is PRESUMED to be Tsukuyomi, was more appropriate. [[User:SaiST|SaiST]] ([[User talk:SaiST|talk]]) 14:46, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Precisely because of what you mentioned before, the presumption was removed. It's better to let it as such until something is said otherwise.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:29, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== infant image ==
 
 
Shouldn't we use the anime version instead in a case that the anime's portrayal one is incorrect?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:28, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Bump, I vote for the correct manga version of the image--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I agree with you because the anime could be different I believe somebody should put the manga version pic or one of his childhood pics. The manga, after all, is the original drawing.
 
--[[Special:Contributions/199.189.81.8|199.189.81.8]] ([[User talk:199.189.81.8|talk]]) 21:58, March 12, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I believe we should always use the correct version--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:00, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Regarding the Abilities section ==
 
 
Does this section really need to be written like an advertisement?--[[User:Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis|Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis]] ([[User talk:Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis|talk]]) 22:30, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah, cause Lord Sasuke deserves it--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:08, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
All character's ability sections are written like that. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 05:30, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:True. All persons abilities sections are written to show them off, no matter what little is known of them.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:39, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Alright. I do think it's a bit worse than with other abilities sections, but that probably has to do with Sasuke's role in the story. Still, there are some odd things:
 
:''Sasuke is hailed as a genius, even by the battle-adept Uchiha clan's standards, excelling at all that he does and finding little difficulty in more challenging tasks.''
 
Uhm, doesn't that ignore a significant part of the story where Sasuke is the less talented, little brother of Itachi!?
 
:''Overall, Sasuke has become highly proficent (sic) in all of his clan's techniques with advanced knowledge of their respective natures, despite his lack of formal training by relying solely on his innate talent and determination.''
 
Respective natures!? Lack of formal training!? What is meant by that exactly?
 
:''Although not his favoured combat skill, Sasuke's taijutsu was at a very high level since the start of the series.''
 
Shouldn't that be "not his favoured combat TACTIC", because his taijutsu skills are he foundation for his other skills.
 
:''Sasuke has displayed an above-average level of physical strength. Despite being weakened in the fight, he was [able] to lift and carry an unconscious Killer B (which was actually one of Gyūki's tentacles) with <s>a single</s> [one] hand.''
 
Well, it's not as if anyone else has carried Killer B around, but with chakra enhanced speed and chakra enhanced strength almost everywhere, is that actually worth mentioning? Also, I pretty sure that he didn't carry Killer B "with a single hand", but carried him on a single shoulder. And calling it "above average"?
 
:''He also has high levels of stamina and endurance as he was able to withstand being battered, thrown and slammed around by Naruto in his jinchūriki forms,...''
 
In his cursed seal mode! Isn't that important to mention?
 
:''After his Sharingan fully develops, he was also able to match the speed of both Naruto's initial jinchūriki form and one-tailed form during their fight, though couldn't completely dodge the latter's demon shroud.''
 
Again without mentioning his cursed seal mode.
 
:''Furthmore (sic), his speed and precision have yet to leave his blade stained with any blood even when inflicting lethal strikes on his opponent.''
 
Isn't that because he's running lightning through his sword? ... And those were some of the things I noticed. Thanks.--[[User:Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis|Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis]] ([[User talk:Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovalis|talk]]) 14:11, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* While we do praise people, comparing them to others is frowned upon here. So even if Sasuke is called a genius, we would not say, "less than his brother" and however many other persons that may have been more talented than him.
 
* Not too sure myself since he's been "trained" and I've only ever seen him use two "Uchiha" techniques, but this place isn't run by machines.
 
* Okay
 
* Fair enough as well, I also thought Jūgo carried B, not Sasuke
 
* Stamina and endurance stuff removed
 
* That statement is wrong, the Sharingan didn't grant him speed, but the ability to dodge the attacks.
 
* Removed
 
Because Sasuke is one of the "more popular" characters, if editors don't patroll the pages regularly, stuff like this gets "sneaked" in without our knowing. Thanks for bringing it to our attention any way.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:29, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
* Itachi was stronger than Sasuke, but the latter was noted numerous times to have the potential to surpass Itachi in time, stated to have a better Sharingan skill and his chakra was compared to that of Madara.
 
Not to mention Naruto and Sasuke are equal, and the former is now like the strongest unit in the Ninja Alliance. Also the whole "next generation surpasses the previous" or some shit.
 
* Sasuke had trained to equal Itachi's skill with Ninja Tools, used them in conjunction with his Fire and Lightning techniques REALLY well, and even used a modified/next-gen version of Uchiha Madara's dragon heads/projectiles technique.
 
Itachi was hailed as a prodigy, Sasuke as well, with him eventually surpassing the older brother.
 
So this isn't false, Sasuke has used an "Uchiha" technique without being trained in it, and copied Itachi's shuriken target practice by memorizing it.
 
* I think he has the talent to rival Lee in Taijutsu, for copying a few moves and in a 30 day training mastering something that took Lee years.
 
But later in the series, it's not a common part of his fighting style, relying more on Kenjutsu now.
 
* The databook gives Sasuke 3,5 in strength, now it's more than likely even more (4 I guess) taking into consideration that he wasn't exclusively trained in muscle mass department, it's valid.
 
Also Sasuke is a late 16 years old teenager, Killer B a muscular big dark-skinned dude in his late 30's.
 
Sasuke isn't noted to be using any strength-enhancing technique (with the Cursed Seal being removed at that point already) "maybe" some limited Eight Gates opening skill (Kakashi level)
 
* I wouldn't say Sasuke has any noticeable natural endurance... that's Naruto's area.
 
Actually without his cursed seal, he got pwned in a single punch by Killer B and wouldn't have survived the Raikage's attack if it wasn't for his Susanoo.
 
* Why removed? In my opinion, it takes a great mastery with a sword to cut due to 1000 Ninja and disarm them without taking their lives.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:15, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== another bug? ==
 
 
jutsu list isn't displaying again.{{unsigned|68.36.225.244}}
 
:Yes. {{User:UltimateSupreme/Sig}} 15:43, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Black lightning? ==
 
 
Is Sasuke's dark chidori or flapping chidori a black lightning move? Or just a darker and stronger chidori? [[Special:Contributions/68.54.229.172|68.54.229.172]] ([[User talk:68.54.229.172|talk]]) 22:39, September 5, 2012 (UTC)Amaterasuice
 
:Not a black lightning technique, specially since in an artbook, said technique was purple. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:46, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Sorry, I'm colorblind so....--[[Special:Contributions/68.54.229.172|68.54.229.172]] ([[User talk:68.54.229.172|talk]]) 22:53, September 5, 2012 (UTC)Amaterasuice
 
 
== Introduction section ==
 
 
I noticed, in the Introduction section, it says '...kept getting drawn in by ''Sakura's romantic advances'' and Naruto's attempts at competition.
 
   
I fail to see where he was ever drawn in to Sakura's romantic advances. He called her annoying and, in the Viz translation of the manga said that she made him sick, both occurrences in Part 1.
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== Susanoo flight? ==
   
He never acted on them in any way, so far as I remember, at least not positively. Not saying he didn't care for her or anything, but that statement is puzzling. Anyone care to explain to me? I'm kinda mind boggled by the logic in there...--[[User:AkasunaNoJade|AkasunaNoJade]] ([[User talk:AkasunaNoJade|talk]]) 08:44, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
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At what point in 676 did Sasuke's Susanoo fly? He was clearly jumping with it.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 20:04, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:And changing direction mid-air? ...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:50, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:Well, in chapter 677, Sasuke's Susanoo is clearly flying! --[[User:Sir M|Sir M]] ([[User talk:Sir M|talk]]) 16:28, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Fixed, I suppose.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:37, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
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== Rinnegan inofobox icon==
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It is possible to change a infobox icon of Sasuke's Rinnegan from generic purple one to his own version ? [[User:Mad6|従え]][[User talk:Mad6|!]] 09:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
Maybe add [[:File:Drive toward the darkness.png|this]] to further describe Sasuke's descent into hatred? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 22:34, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
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== Yata Mirror? ==
:Unnecessary. Also, that's from a filler. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:35, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
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There's never been a mention of it but is that the Yata Mirror in this pic? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919130943/naruto/images/b/ba/Sasuke_EMS%27s_Susanoo.png [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 23:35, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
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:I believe it was stated somewhere that the shield there is actually a bigger version of the Susanoo's bow weapon, with a shield-like appearance. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 23:42, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
I thought that see Sasuke's hatred consumed eyes as a chlid may help better add to his descent to hate as a chlid [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 23:36, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
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==Why are we acting like it's not confirmed that Sasuke's Rinnegan allows him to resist Infinite Tsukuyomi?==
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I just noticed in the artice that it says it maybe the reason he can resist it be but in every single translation I've read it outright states that his Rinnegan is what allows Sasuke and his Susanoo too resist the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi.--[[User:Thdyingbreed|Thdyingbreed]] ([[User talk:Thdyingbreed|talk]]) 15:22, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
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:From the article: ''"Black Zetsu also alluded that Sasuke's Rinnegan may be the reason why he was able resist the influence of the Infinite Tsukuyomi."''--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 15:29, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
   
Why did someone remove "rotten ninja world"? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 19:34, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
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The more correct version would be like "Black Zetsu stated that Sasuke's Rinnegan is the reason as why he is able to resist the Infinite Tsukuyomi"
   
Shouldn't we say that Sasuke has an affinity towards lightning, because of that one filler episode with the paper?--[[Special:Contributions/24.166.174.117|24.166.174.117]] ([[User talk:24.166.174.117|talk]]) 22:23, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
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The one currently suggests we don't know the reason when we do know the reason which is do too his Rinnegan.--[[User:Thdyingbreed|Thdyingbreed]] ([[User talk:Thdyingbreed|talk]]) 13:28, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Kusari user ==
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== Sasuke's Rinnegan Color ==
   
In what occasion of the anime, was Sasuke shown as using the kusari? Cuz he's listed as one in the anime and i can't find a single refference to it, soo a little direction would be appreciated. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 00:46, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
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How do we know for sure that red is the color of his sharingan, I mean the official color volume isn't out yet. I mean I know there has been some fans who have been able to give the manga color, but I don't think official. Or is there an official color manga already out that's canon that shows what color his eye is?????--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 11:48, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:In the Paw Encyclopaedia filler. In a flashback, he captures one of the cats with chains. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:10, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
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:The ''Weekly Shōnen Jump'' has released a colored version of chapter #676 which depicts that Sasuke's Rinnegan is red-colored. And it's considered official like chapter #638. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:55, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Curse mark? ==
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Oh ok, thanks well I guess this raise more questions about rinnegan. Maybe sasuke has the ultimate form of rinnegan.. --[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 11:59, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
I can't remember if they have shown this, but Sasuke still got his Curse Mark right? Long time no see acturly. --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 12:41, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
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Oh yeah what about, shinju beast, kaguya, and Madara's third eye?--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 12:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
:It was removed by Itachi during their last fight, when Orochimaru was sealed by Itachi's sword. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 12:46, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
{{UseAnswersWiki}}''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:black;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 12:50, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
Great thanks. --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 12:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
== Something about his appearance ==
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@Shak, now you confuse me... was chapter 676 part of the digital volume release of the whole manga or a separate thing? Because if it was the digital volume coloration, then that's not really canon no matter how official. Once the volume cover comes out and it depicts Sasuke's Rinnegan as purple, then that's canon--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:Elve-kun. If you read the chapter's article trivia section. You'll understand what I'm saying and I didn't say ''canon''. @Ankhael: Shinju's eye is red according to volume #64 cover. Madara's third eye is also red from the same chapter. For Kaguya's eye, no colored version of it. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:11, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Latest chapter pretty much confirms that Madara's third eye also is a Rinnegan, therefore so is Kaguya's and Kaguya's presumably the same as Shinju's, so the eye most likely indeed is red, although I still would like a volume cover confirmation :)--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:30, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
I don't know if this in his appearance but there seems be not mention of the lines under Sasuke's eyes he had for the longest time from when he started killing the samurai up till Edo Tensei was released. His emotions and mindset seem to determine when they're there or not. --[[Special:Contributions/67.142.164.24|67.142.164.24]] ([[User talk:67.142.164.24|talk]]) 04:01, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
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I'm new and just want to say, sasuke's rinnegan is nine tomoed, see 673 there's 3 row of magatamas, should be nine right? [[User:Rizki2013|Rizki2013]] ([[User talk:Rizki2013|talk]]) 18:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:This has been discussed. It's the general consensus that since the six tomoe depiction is more common that it's the correct number. Also, this has its own thread on Sasuke's talk page and the Rinnegan one. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 18:07, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:: I wonder when Elveonora will realize that the volume covers are done by the same people who do the digital releases? But of course, cherry picking is easier, I suppose. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:20, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I'm gonna assume every tomoe Rinnegan is also red, because of the Ten-Tails' eye and Sasuke's. But I'm just a crazy person.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Apparently we both are. I mean, even by Elveonora's logic (which makes no sense, but for the sake of this argument, I'll entertain it), the Shinju's eye was colored red in a volume cover not all that long ago. But, of course, Kishimoto might've suddenly decided to color it rainbow (and then had Shueisha do it for him, since he doesn't color his manga), and then we'd have to change that. Pity. /sarcasm I'll add it to the article. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Expressions of madness--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:49, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
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@Foxie, are you 100% sure those volume covers are done by the digital guys, like 100% or just your intuition?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:49, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Sasuke may NOT HAVE Tsukuyomi ==
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: Absolutely 100% certain. Kishimoto decides the colors but he doesn't color them himself. The publisher ultimately makes the final call (as is the case anytime you write anything and publish it through a publisher) and then they have an art team that does the colorings. If I'm not mistaken, Kishimoto's assistant has done a color page before, but I'm not certain if that is true or not. What I do know is that he doesn't color the volume covers. The publisher does. He also does not do the color pages. The publisher decides when it is appropriate and does it themselves. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 19:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
Well, While I do think that Sasuke did use Tsukuyomi - It's nothing but a theory.....
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::Well, just to inform you guys, we're probably going to see the color of Sasuke's Rinnegan next week because there's going to be a center-color page and a poster in the chapter. [http://weeklyjump.livejournal.com/ Here's the link]. Anyway, my money's definitely on red.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 20:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Lets start with the idea that you should write facts only.
 
according to Tobi [Naruto chapter 480 page 6] Sasuke used simply a weak genjutsu.
 
However, That Tsukuyomi that Sasuke used did not have a moon, it reminds of Itachi's Tsukuyomi yet it doesn't have to be one.
 
Now for the last chapter that might prove that Sasuke does not have a Tsukuyomi.
 
In chapter 585 page 12, Sasuke did not say Tsukuyomi but genjutsu sharingan while Itachi did say Tsukuyomi.[[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 05:49, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Your point?[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 06:10, January 27, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
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::: Again, the people that do those pages are the same ones that have been putting out the other colorings. It will be red, the same as it always has been. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 20:10, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
My point is that you should remove from the jutsu list the Tsukuyomi ability, Same goes to the abilities which clearly says did he does have Tsukuyomi while he possibily doesn't have[[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 06:40, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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== Chidori Eisō? ==
: It has already been decided to list him as a user, i refer you to some of the discussions above to see why if you like.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 07:18, January 27, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
 
   
In order to use [[Susanoo]], a person needs to be able to use both [[Amaterasu]] and [[Tsukuyomi]].'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 07:34, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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Didn't find it was discussed before. Who decided Sasuke used Chidori Eisō both the latest chapter and to bisect Madara? He is obviously using partial Susanoo transformation, only it is Susanoo's sword rather than hand this time. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 14:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure how small you think the Susanoo's sword is, but that was definitely not the Susanoo sword. Sasuke can't just manifest a sword, he needs to manifest the rib-cage, the arm and then the sword IN the hand. He can't avoid steps. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 14:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::The latest events just show that he CAN, both avoid steps AND resize the sword. It looks nothing like Chidori Eisō. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::It looks exactly like Chidori Sharp Spear. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:14, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::May you remind me since when Eiso has a guard and blade-like shape? [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:37, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::For quite a while now actually. It already had sword-like shape tens of chapters back--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:44, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::Maybe I missed it, but what about gourd? It's hard to miss, I'm pretty sure he never had it.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:48, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::There's no gourd, at least I can't see it. Chapter/page?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::::Counting colour spread as one page, it 7 page, the best is the last frame after Sasuke teleported. You can clearly see the guard and the grip. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 15:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::::Check the technique's manga debut. It looked like that when he pierced Oro too.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::::::Ok, found it, thanks. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 16:09, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
No, The databook most likely was wrong. Kishi simply changed his mind. It was long ago and it's no more, I gave you a clear proves from the manga which says that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, Manga >= Databook.
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== Rinnegan's unmentioned ability... ==
You can't rely on the Databook while the manga says otherwise. - Yomiko-chan, But the manga clearly says that he does NOT have it.
 
[[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 08:10, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
:No, Sasuke surely has it, he used it against Danzo twice. One time when Danzo saw Itachi casting Amaterasu on him and the second time when he fooled him by believing he still has some Sharingan left for his Izanagi (both Tobi and Danzo said that it was Tsukuyomi and not another genjutsu, although it was not as powerful as Itachi's version.) He also used his Mangekyō Sharingan for it. Why should he do that if he could cast a simple genjutsu with his normal sharingan?[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 10:35, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
I disagree, Sasuke used the same ability with the second eye twice, After Tobi noticed it (in chapter 480 page 6) He said himself it was simply a genjutsu and nothing else. The Mangekyo Sharingan genjutsu is a somewhat stronger genjutsu. I don't know, But CLEARLY it isn't the Tsukuyomi. Why would he say Mangekyo genjutsu instead of Tsukuyomi? UHMMM.... Maybe because it isn't. Apart from it, Sasuke has three abilities (which I disagree but it's not the point) , Blaze release , Susanoo and Amaterasu. Which means as Sasuke said himself, 3 abilities .. No Tsukuyomi here.
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[[File:Sasuke First Person View.jpg|thumb|left|Sasuke's potential view and seeing into the Hinata's dream.]]
The manga might be confusing abit alright, Though we cannot ignore the facts that it was NEVER said that it is a Tsukuyomi. And considering the fact it was said it isn't Tsukuyomi and Sasuke NEVER said Tsukuyomi while activating the mangekyo genjutsu ability.. It wasn't Tsukuyomi, alright. [[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 12:56, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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I've read through Sasuke's Abilities section and I want to point something out. In chapter 678, page 4 it implies that Sasuke's Rinnegan has the ability to see the into the dreams of the shinobi trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi. It looks the same as the first person view as the Byakugan, the colour is just not inverted, as seen in the official coloured version. Should it be mentioned or is it trivial? [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 20:42, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:That is not him looking into them. It is done to show us what some of the victims are going thought. Similer to Narutos sage training he was feeling a sense of danger for his village and we kept on seeing the village under attack. Does that mean he has super vision?
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:Besides what does seeing a into a persons IT dream have to do with him teleporting"?" around the battlefeild before the IT is cast? --[[User:Darkhunter-X|Darkhunter-X]] ([[User talk:Darkhunter-X|talk]]) 21:02, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yeah, no. Kishi was just showing us some of the Allied Shinobi Forces' dreams. Sasuke's Rinnegan had nothing to do with it. [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 21:03, June 6, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125
   
Guys, there's no need to start up this discussion for the hundredth million time. Until it is said otherwise, Amaterasu+Tsukuyomi=Susanoo. I really don't think there's any need to bring this up again because no one here is going to say anything that hasn't been said in every other discussion.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:05, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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== New part II pic ==
   
Yet you simply ignore the fact that Sasuke never used Tsukuyomi. The manga showed us [chapter 585 page 12] that it's somewhat Mangekyo Sharingan genjutsu and nothing else. Due to that and more few reasons it's no longer a fact.[[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 13:36, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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How about using [[:File:Sasuke Uchiha War.png | this]] from the latest episode, as his infobox part II pic? He looks a bit angry maybe, but at least not so close-up as the other one. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
:This is a wikia. We have to base information here on a '''premise'''. If databook says Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to awaken Susanoo, and Itachi said the same, why should we go against it and say "oh Sasuke may not have Tsukuyomi because you know, he's the one exception"? Also not that Danzō compared Sasuke's genjutsu to that of Itachi's which could control time and '''that''' was what Tobi was commenting on noting that it was just another genjutsu. Why in blazes would someone compare a regular genjutsu with something on the level of Tsukuyomi. Until it is said otherwise, that is what we have to work on. If and when it is ever said contrary, feel free to come back here and do the "I told you so" dance by which time I'll be long gone, and you'll be dead Dumbledore!--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:43, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:{{Support}} Seems better than the current image. It looks good as well and it's rare that we find a smiling Sasuke image. [[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 22:31, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
::Also, even IF the genjutsu used by Sasuke in that fight really weren't Tsukuyomi, we still could not say that he is not able to use it. The databook says one needs both abilities to use Susanoo, and that is a fact. Madara also never used Amaterasu, yet he could use Susanoo and is therefore also able to use Amaterasu. The databooks are official references, therefore a person IS able to use a technique if it stands so in a databook, even if that person was not seen using the technique yet in the manga or anime.[[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 14:08, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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:: I'll change it then --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 23:36, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Granted the art of the image is not as good as the previous one, but this is a better image. The other one was too up-close in his face, and you couldn't see the top of his head. The Obito image has the same problem, and I think that should be changed as well. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:The new image has shadow all over his face and is unsuitable because of it.
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:I like [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/archive/c/ce/20140124043530!Sasuke_Shippuden.png this], or at least I like it better than the current or previous. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:15, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:: I would still say I prefer the current one. Yes it has shadows on his face (maybe we'll get a better one in the next few episodes). But I just thinks he looks more..... alive.. In the one you suggested he have very dead eyes, as far as I think. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:56, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I agree, I think we can find a better Part II image than the current one, but I don't like Snapper's image, mainly because he looks exhausted and barely awake. And though the art of the prior image was spectacular, it was too zoomed in on Sasuke's face, where as the Part I image shows all of Sasuke's head, and I think both images need to be consistent with how much of the character they show (and that goes for every character's infobox images). --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 02:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Well at least the next chapter will probably feature Sasukes group in the entire chapter, so maybe we get lucky there --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 08:24, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Why wait? Why hope for luck? Why not find some other image from one of the other 300 episodes of ''Shippuden'' that does not have the current's shadows? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 07:29, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
   
[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38425/901511-sasuke_uses_tsukuyomi_on_8_tails_super.jpg /topic] He activated his MS for the purpose of using that genjutsu, it put strain on his eye and there's the kill bill filter scheme lol, not to mention Killer B had tentacle guy free him from it--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:59, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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I got some good pics from episode 366 of Sasuke close up. I'll upload them and you guys can choose what you want. They are
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[[:File:Sasuke Shippuden 1.png|Here]] and
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[[:File:Sasuke_Shippuden_3.png|also here]]
   
--Elveonora ~ it doesn't prove anything really... Just that it's similar to the Tsukuyomi ... As I said, in the later chapters Sasuke clearly doesn't have Tsukuyomi. [[User:Zahi101|Zahi101]] ([[User talk:Zahi101|talk]]) 20:16, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
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[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 18:19, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
Clearly to you, I don't see your "proof" --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:27, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
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Sasuke's part II image was just changed last week, there's really no need to change it again. Besides, between stretching and a bit of blurriness, none of these are the same quality as the current image. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:00, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Original Mangekyō Sharingan ==
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I just put in a better quality image. Somebody was deleting my uploads, so it forced my hand. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 18:13, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
I noticed that in the last two chapters (620 and 619) of Naruto manga, Sasuke's Mangekyō appeared like his original without the 3 lines from Itachi's Mangekyō...I think it is worth noting in the trivia .....and it is also raises the question of whether he can switch between the Eternal Mangekyō and the normal Mangekyō at will. [[Special:Contributions/197.155.228.102|197.155.228.102]] ([[User talk:197.155.228.102|talk]]) 13:52, February 14, 2013 (UTC)Inhumanoid
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I don't like the one you have put up now, He just looks wrong. I'm changing it back, until we reach an agreement on this point, and please don't change it until we agree on something here. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:18, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== status/role ==
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Well, what was wrong with it? [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 21:25, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
I think we should simply list him as deuteragonist or antihero rather than "flip-flopper"--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:25, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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: His hair covers to much of his face I think, if you try and compare to the current one. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 21:28, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
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::But the current image does not really look too much like Sasuke- the character model just looks "off." I propose we change it back to WindStar's image until we can find a perfect picture that satisfies everyone. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 01:24, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Maybe anti-hero, but we will have to see how it plays out ... --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 15:49, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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::: I agree.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 04:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
In the intro paragraph, it says "...introduced as a protagonist but later became an antagonist in the half of Part II then later revert back into protagonist." Why is he only considered an antagonist in the half of Part II? Isn't he antagonistic since he "tried" to kill Naruto at the Valley of the End in Part I? And due to the latest chapter, is he really considered as a protagonist again? True, he does confirm that he won't destroy the village anymore, and yeah, he does say sorry to Karin for trying to kill her, but does that justify him being a protagonist again after hundreds of chapters of antagonism? Sasuke's role is a difficult one... I just think we should wait for a few more chapters or the whole outcome of this saga before reclassifying him as a protagonist again. [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 17:03, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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That's exactly what I thought, Kirin98. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] 05:55, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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: I can't agree with you on this one bit. But if it's the opinion of the majority then I'll have to go along with it. --[[User:Kasan94|<font color="#3B0B0B">'''Kasan94'''</font>]] [[File:Nara Symbol.svg|20px]] <sub>[[User_talk:Kasan94|''Talkpage'']]</sub> 08:35, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::Why are people changing the image just because they can? I see literally no consensus here for any of the suggested images and if I can find the image that was being used long before this message was added, I'll add it back in (assuming it even exists). Also, why is there an obsessive need to keep changing the image in the infobox? Pick one and leave it there. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 08:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:::[[:File:Sasuke Shippuden.png]] '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 08:46, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::::But the problem is that it is too zoomed in onto his face, and you can't see his entire head like you can in the Part I image. It's inconsistent. We had the same problem with the Obito image, and that was fixed, and so therefore, I think this should as well. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 17:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::It might be zoomed in "too close", but it's the image that had a consensus. None of the images that have been suggested have any consensus for use, hence why the original image that had a consensus was restored. If you can indeed generate a consensus on this, then it can be changed: for sake of not clogging the TP up with discussion on this, it might be prudent to [[Board:Wiki Discussions|make a thread]] and add a topic of the article for more notice. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:23, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
My sentiments exactly. --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 17:05, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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== The Last Uchiha ==
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Since both Madara and Obito are now listed as "deceased", should Sasuke be mentioned that he's the sole survivor of the Uchiha Clan within his introductory paragraph?--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 04:47, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
Whoever wrote that introduction lol.... --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:09, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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Yes. So, I say proceed.--[[User:Hockey Machete|Hockey Machete]] ([[User talk:Hockey Machete|talk]]) 05:59, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
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: Alright then.--[[User:The Zeitgeist|The Zeitgeist]] ([[User talk:The Zeitgeist|talk]]) 06:06, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
   
@Sparxs Then, why not just change it to Deuteragonist, since deuteragonist isn't necessarily on the protagonist's side, but isn't the ultimate villain, either. {{unsigned|93.87.250.46}}
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== Sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan ==
   
Sasuke's always been the deuteragonist of the series despite all he's done. Throughout part 1 it's always been a series of switches between his and Naruto's stories, like two halves of the same coin in a way.. I agree with changing it to that. --[[User:M4ND0N|M4ND0N]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 18:24, April 10, 2013 (UTC)
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sorry guys I don't mean to start an argument but, sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan. I know that his rinnegan also appeared to have 6 as well later on, but that was after he had used his teleport ability. in the chapter where sasuke's rinnegan was first shown, he had 9 tomoe in his left eye. let me explain. in the first chapter in which his rinnegan was first shown, if you look at the rings in sasuke's rinnegan, you'll notice that on the first 3 rings he has a total of 9 tomoe, then later after he use his ability he appear to only appeared to have tomoe on the first 2 rings, having a total of 6. who knows if this is a drawing error, but when his rinnegan was first shown he had a total of 9, appearing on the first 3 rings in his rinnegan.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:36, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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:He was consistantly depicted with six Tomoe. If there's a reason for him sometimes having more or if Kishimoto screwed up, we don't know. For now, he has six. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:46, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
Just change it to deuteragonist, is it so hard? I've seen that being discussed here for a LONG time and it's never done because some people want to foolishly stick with the antagonist tag. --[[Special:Contributions/46.11.99.109|46.11.99.109]] ([[User talk:46.11.99.109|talk]]) 08:12, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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only after he was using it consistantly, however you right. I still think its appropriate to add that he did infact 9 tomoe before he used and battled with madara.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:51, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
I believe he's a main character.. so anti-hero is fine but he's not classified as antagonist. ~[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]] | [[w:c:phoenixrising|PR]] | [[w:c:rockleespinoff|RLS]])</sup> 08:22, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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kishi has also consistently drew the jubi with six tomoe on occasions.--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 14:57, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
:[[wikipedia:Deuteragonist|Deuteragonist]] seems to be the best fitting word here.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 08:27, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
::It is entirely possible he could pull a dick move and say "I'm going to protect Konoha only so I can destroy it later.". So I'm hesitant to say he's a protagonist.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:05, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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Dude, I've tried to argue this before. It's not going to persuade anyone. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Windstar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 15:50, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
:: I would say a proper, decent way to phrase it in the intro would be that while he was originally introduced as a secondary protagonist, he soon evolved into a deuteragonist, helping people only when it presents him with personal gain is his own plans and goals.--[[User:Lilduff90|lilduff90]] ([[User talk:Lilduff90|talk]]) 11:55, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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He was shown with nine tomoe once, and with six in every panel they're visible since. Six until there's substantial reason to say differently. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:12, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
:::That however glosses over the fact that he unquestionably became a antagonist. 400+ chapters of him being a evil dick is not something that can be handwaved so easily.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:10, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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Aw, come on Omnibender, at least you can make a small trivia, make a little note that "when sasuke first appear with his rinnegan, it appeared to have nine tomoe, later it was depicted with six tomoe".--[[User:Ankhael|Ankhael]] ([[User talk:Ankhael|talk]]) 16:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
::: '''''Deuteragonist is the second most important character, after the protagonist. The deuteragonist may switch from being with or against the protagonist depending on the deuteragonist's own conflict/plot.'''''
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:I'm sure that already is stated somewhere.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:49, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
That seems to exactly match it.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 12:15, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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::Once again, Elve, no it isn't. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Windstar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] [[User:WindStar7125|WindStar7125]] ([[User talk:WindStar7125|talk]]) 17:34, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
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::: It will likely be placed in the page of drawing errors (because yes, it is a drawing error). There is no need for a Trivia point here since it has been consistently shown with six since then. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:48, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
   
::::I vote we remove them altogether. They do more harm than good any way.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:17, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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== "Like the Shunshin no jutsu ==
   
Why would we do so??? The intro is supposed to give an overview of the character's role and status in the show--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:03, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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*In the mangastream translation, Naruto said that Sasuke was able to move around '''LIKE''' the shunshin no jutsu...... what does that mean & was it an accurate translation? If so, should it then be added to his abilities
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**Sasuke has the ability to move around likened to the shunshin no jutus
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:Or something like that?--[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 07:30, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
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::The translations of this weeks chapter are even worse than they usually are, so we can't really tell yet. Please wait for me to get my hands on and translate the raws. :) • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:23, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
Deuteragonist seams to cover it. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 17:06, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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== at this point ==
   
d.o.n.e.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:14, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
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Wouldn't it make sense to create an article for the teleportation technique? I mean, we've made for Kaguya's techniques, so why not his?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:36, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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: I can't agree yet. We don't even know what it does. So far we've seen Sasuke disappear and then reappear. Sure we've seen him do it a few times now, but combine that with Naruto's comment that it is "like the shunshin", and even then we don't know what it does. Vanishing and then reappearing isn't worth an article. When we see its mechanics, like if he has to focus his eye, or if he simply has to focus to teleport, then we can do something with it. Otherwise, we simply don't know enough. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:50, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::I wouldn't oppose waiting, but latest chapter made it clear (to me at least) that it is space-time ninjutsu. Shunshin is simply fast movement and unless Sasuke's so fast that he can walk through air, he teleported himself and Naruto to Kaguya--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:54, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Honestly I think Naruto was comparing it to Hiraishin, which gets called shunshin a lot lately for some reason. I agree with you, but again, disappearing and then suddenly reappearing isn't special. Even Konohamaru can do that. Until something happens to distinguish it, though, I see no need. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:57, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:::: Fair points, but if we don't learn anything more about this technique soon, then I propose we create a page about the technique and we give it the name ourselves. For instance, we created the names of techniques like "Dimensional Shifting", "Space-Time Portal", and "Black Zetsu Merging Technique." And to be honest, we know even ''less'' about those techniques than Sasuke's teleportation technique. Let me know how you feel about this. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 20:47, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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::::: How do you figure? We know exactly what those techniques do. "Dimensional Shifting" allows Kaguya to rewrite reality to create new dimensions, as per Kakashi's own explanations, the "Space-Time Portal" is obvious. She creates a portal and teleports with it. We've always known what "Black Zetsu Merging" does and his "Recording" technique has existed since Part I. I think you're getting antsy because we created pages that have ''no official name'' for Kaguya and Zetsu, but don't acknowledge that not only do we not have a name for Sasuke's Rinnegan technique, we also don't know what the hell it does. Seriously. One moment he (or his sword) is in one location, the next moment he is elsewhere. That is all we know. That does not constitute a page. Hell, that doesn't even constitute a Trivia point. All we know about it is on his article and should remain that way until we actually get some mechanics here. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:55, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::: Once again, fair points. But I wouldn't count on an explanation on how it works- if there would be one, it would have been in 674 when it was introduced. What we do know is that he can teleport himself and other people and objects a great distance. He can also use this ability to switch places with another person or object. There is a limited space in which he can use this technique, and it is compared to Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique. All that information above is, in my opinion, worthy of an article. That being said, if the mechanics are never explained and/or the technique is never given a name, are we still not planning on creating a page for the technique? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 14:12, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::: What do you think of the points I've made? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 13:12, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::::Once again, my question remains unanswered. If there is nothing more that we learn about Sasuke's technique at any point in the series, will we still not create a page for Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation technique, or will we actually create a page with our own name and explanation? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 18:50, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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: No we will not. Vanishing and reappearing can be chalked up to a Body Flicker Technique, for one. So if this is all we get on it, then tough pancakes. We're not in the business of inventing explanations when we have none. In every instance of the technique being used, we get too panels. One where Sasuke is standing still, and the next he's a few yards away. Again, Body Flicker can accomplish this too. The only reason we even know its Rinnegan-related is because Madara said he was starting to "figure out" Sasuke's "eye power". That still tells us absolutely nothing about it. Right now, it is documented. Everything we know about it is contained in a sentence (we literally only have a sentence worth's of explanation about it), which is also referenced, in his Rinnegan section. If and when it is explained, be it in the manga, or a databook, then a page can be made. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 19:39, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::Like I've said, you make fair points, and I don't disagree with you. However, I just have the issue that there are pages like Black Zetsu's recording ability, and we know virtually nothing about how it works or it's real name. Besides, I think more people than you and I should be the ones to decide the course of this dilemma. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 22:18, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::: I, again, am telling you that you are being very narrow sighted. Black Zetsu's recording ability has been known about since early Part II, and was used as far back as the end of Part I. We may not know ''how'' he does it, but we know what it does, what it has been used to do, and what its purpose is. Hence why there is a decent sized article about it, and only once sentence about this ability. There is no one else needed, its not going to be created with the information had. Period. Even if, by some act of God, you manage to get it created, Cerez, Ultimate, and Spey will immediately request its deletion (rightfully so) because they despise useless articles as it is. Drop it until we know more. Sasuke, so far, has done absolutely nothing special. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 22:37, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Very well. Despite our differing opinions, I have enjoyed conversing with you about the subject. Thank you for your insight. --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 23:58, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Evil? I think not... ==
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== Final Susanoo ==
   
I believe that, despite all Sasuke's done, he did nothing to truly define himself as "evil." Everything that's happened to him was portrayed through his hatred, and people merely got in his way of his goals. Therefore, I think that if someone were to look at it close enough, we should specifically state that he wasn't evil anywhere along the line, and if so, it was nothing but being manipulated and corrupted. [[User:GoldenTempest|GoldenTempest]] ([[User talk:GoldenTempest|talk]]) 21:12, April 11, 2013 (UTC)GoldenTempest
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The abilities section says that 'Following the recovery of Itachi's transplant, the final stage of his Susanoo underwent a drastic change, with scaled hands, a beak-like hood and a larger bow, with a more shield-like appearance, giving it an overall more intimidating appearance.', however, Sasuke acquired this version of Susanoo during his fight with Kakashi and Team 7, which took place before the transplant.
   
== Sasuke picture ==
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[[User:Madara solos|Madara solos]] ([[User talk:Madara solos|talk]]) 12:21, June 26, 2014 (UTC)Madara solos
   
Should we add the part of the manga where Sasuke made the decision to protect Konoha next to the latest addition to Sasuke's personality? I think it is appropriate, but that is just me. [[Special:Contributions/65.188.41.37|65.188.41.37]] ([[User talk:65.188.41.37|talk]]) 01:30, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
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No. That was his Susanoo before the transplant, when he had the MS. It had teeth and looked like Itachi's. Check Sasuke's Susanoo gallery. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 16:02, June 26, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Daggers ==
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== "Rinnegan Teleportation" Technique Page ==
   
Can sombody add daggers to wepons, he used them against Kakashi in the genin survival thing. --[[User:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|Keep Calm And Call Kakashi]] ([[User talk:Keep Calm And Call Kakashi|talk]]) 21:39, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
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Given that we have created techniques that have not been given proper names such as "Black Zetsu Merging Technique", "Event Recording", "Dimensional Shifting", etc., I think we should create a page that revolves around Sasuke's teleportation abilities. For instance, we could call the technique "Rinnegan Teleportation", "Teleportation: Rinnegan", "Teleportation: Sasuke", or something more creative. What do you think? --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 14:15, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
:He is listed as a user. It's just not showing. If you click the tool link that gives a list, you'll see it listed. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:36, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sasuke_Uchiha#at_this_point--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:23, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
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::Sorry about that... That subheading title didn't really scream out "name of Sasuke's teleportation technique." --[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 20:42, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I have a thing for fancy titles--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:45, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Sensor? ==
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== Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities ==
   
Given how he also sensed Naruto's chakra from such a long distance, it would appear Sasuke is a sensor type too.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 00:57, May 7, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
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Shouldn't we add Water Style, Earth Style, and Wind Style to his Chakra Natures since he has the Rinnegan? Just because he hasn't used any of those natures, doesn't mean he doesn't have them. We did the same thing for the Sot6P and yet we never saw him use them. We also never saw Hagoromo, or Madara use the Six Paths Technique yet those were put on there. So shouldn't Sasuke have those Jutsu's and chakra natures added to his profile?[[User:Sanbi221|Sanbi221]] ([[User talk:Sanbi221|talk]]) 21:36, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
:I think you missed the part Orochimaru states none of them there were sensors. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:17, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
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:I swear this thing has to be explained like every damned week. Rinnegan doesn't grant anyone natures, it simply allows him to learn them faster. I don't know the reasoning behind Hagoromo having all natures in his infobox. For Madara, he specifically told Obito that he would teach him Six Paths Technique, meaning he could use all 6. Hagoromo probably invented it, unless his mother did, in which case usage of all paths is questionable--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
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::Elveo is right. Except for the Madara thing. Madara has all ''5'' because he's actually used them not because of the Six Paths. Wood = Water + Earth, Fire (duh), Wind (fanned Gunbai), and Lightning (apart of storm release). -- '''[[User:Koto Senju|Koto]]'''<small><sup>[[user talk: Koto Senju|Talk Page]]-[[Special:Contributions/Koto Senju|My Contributions]]</sup></small> 21:50, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Oh I see. I've always been under the assumption that once you have the Rinnegan you're automatically granted all 5 Chakra Natures since every user except Obito and possibly Hagomoro has used it.[[User:Sanbi221|Sanbi221]] ([[User talk:Sanbi221|talk]]) 02:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

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Susanoo flight? Edit

At what point in 676 did Sasuke's Susanoo fly? He was clearly jumping with it.--Reliops (talk) 20:04, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

And changing direction mid-air? ...--Elveonora (talk) 22:50, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
Well, in chapter 677, Sasuke's Susanoo is clearly flying! --Sir M (talk) 16:28, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Rinnegan inofobox iconEdit

It is possible to change a infobox icon of Sasuke's Rinnegan from generic purple one to his own version ? 従え 09:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Yata Mirror? Edit

There's never been a mention of it but is that the Yata Mirror in this pic? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919130943/naruto/images/b/ba/Sasuke_EMS%27s_Susanoo.png Arrancar79 (talk) 23:35, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I believe it was stated somewhere that the shield there is actually a bigger version of the Susanoo's bow weapon, with a shield-like appearance. Atrix471 (talk) 23:42, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Why are we acting like it's not confirmed that Sasuke's Rinnegan allows him to resist Infinite Tsukuyomi?Edit

I just noticed in the artice that it says it maybe the reason he can resist it be but in every single translation I've read it outright states that his Rinnegan is what allows Sasuke and his Susanoo too resist the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi.--Thdyingbreed (talk) 15:22, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

From the article: "Black Zetsu also alluded that Sasuke's Rinnegan may be the reason why he was able resist the influence of the Infinite Tsukuyomi."--~UltimateSupreme 15:29, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

The more correct version would be like "Black Zetsu stated that Sasuke's Rinnegan is the reason as why he is able to resist the Infinite Tsukuyomi"

The one currently suggests we don't know the reason when we do know the reason which is do too his Rinnegan.--Thdyingbreed (talk) 13:28, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Rinnegan Color Edit

How do we know for sure that red is the color of his sharingan, I mean the official color volume isn't out yet. I mean I know there has been some fans who have been able to give the manga color, but I don't think official. Or is there an official color manga already out that's canon that shows what color his eye is?????--Ankhael (talk) 11:48, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

The Weekly Shōnen Jump has released a colored version of chapter #676 which depicts that Sasuke's Rinnegan is red-colored. And it's considered official like chapter #638. —Shakhmoot
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(Talk) 11:55, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks well I guess this raise more questions about rinnegan. Maybe sasuke has the ultimate form of rinnegan.. --Ankhael (talk) 11:59, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah what about, shinju beast, kaguya, and Madara's third eye?--Ankhael (talk) 12:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

@Shak, now you confuse me... was chapter 676 part of the digital volume release of the whole manga or a separate thing? Because if it was the digital volume coloration, then that's not really canon no matter how official. Once the volume cover comes out and it depicts Sasuke's Rinnegan as purple, then that's canon--Elveonora (talk) 12:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Elve-kun. If you read the chapter's article trivia section. You'll understand what I'm saying and I didn't say canon. @Ankhael: Shinju's eye is red according to volume #64 cover. Madara's third eye is also red from the same chapter. For Kaguya's eye, no colored version of it. —Shakhmoot
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(Talk) 12:11, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Latest chapter pretty much confirms that Madara's third eye also is a Rinnegan, therefore so is Kaguya's and Kaguya's presumably the same as Shinju's, so the eye most likely indeed is red, although I still would like a volume cover confirmation :)--Elveonora (talk) 12:30, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

I'm new and just want to say, sasuke's rinnegan is nine tomoed, see 673 there's 3 row of magatamas, should be nine right? Rizki2013 (talk) 18:04, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

This has been discussed. It's the general consensus that since the six tomoe depiction is more common that it's the correct number. Also, this has its own thread on Sasuke's talk page and the Rinnegan one. Atrix471 (talk) 18:07, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
I wonder when Elveonora will realize that the volume covers are done by the same people who do the digital releases? But of course, cherry picking is easier, I suppose. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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18:20, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna assume every tomoe Rinnegan is also red, because of the Ten-Tails' eye and Sasuke's. But I'm just a crazy person.--TheUltimate3
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(talk) 18:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Apparently we both are. I mean, even by Elveonora's logic (which makes no sense, but for the sake of this argument, I'll entertain it), the Shinju's eye was colored red in a volume cover not all that long ago. But, of course, Kishimoto might've suddenly decided to color it rainbow (and then had Shueisha do it for him, since he doesn't color his manga), and then we'd have to change that. Pity. /sarcasm I'll add it to the article. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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18:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

@Foxie, are you 100% sure those volume covers are done by the digital guys, like 100% or just your intuition?--Elveonora (talk) 18:49, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely 100% certain. Kishimoto decides the colors but he doesn't color them himself. The publisher ultimately makes the final call (as is the case anytime you write anything and publish it through a publisher) and then they have an art team that does the colorings. If I'm not mistaken, Kishimoto's assistant has done a color page before, but I'm not certain if that is true or not. What I do know is that he doesn't color the volume covers. The publisher does. He also does not do the color pages. The publisher decides when it is appropriate and does it themselves. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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19:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Well, just to inform you guys, we're probably going to see the color of Sasuke's Rinnegan next week because there's going to be a center-color page and a poster in the chapter. Here's the link. Anyway, my money's definitely on red.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 20:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
Again, the people that do those pages are the same ones that have been putting out the other colorings. It will be red, the same as it always has been. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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Chidori Eisō? Edit

Didn't find it was discussed before. Who decided Sasuke used Chidori Eisō both the latest chapter and to bisect Madara? He is obviously using partial Susanoo transformation, only it is Susanoo's sword rather than hand this time. Faust-RSI (talk) 14:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure how small you think the Susanoo's sword is, but that was definitely not the Susanoo sword. Sasuke can't just manifest a sword, he needs to manifest the rib-cage, the arm and then the sword IN the hand. He can't avoid steps. Atrix471 (talk) 14:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
The latest events just show that he CAN, both avoid steps AND resize the sword. It looks nothing like Chidori Eisō. Faust-RSI (talk) 15:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
It looks exactly like Chidori Sharp Spear. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:14, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
May you remind me since when Eiso has a guard and blade-like shape? Faust-RSI (talk) 15:37, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
For quite a while now actually. It already had sword-like shape tens of chapters back--Elveonora (talk) 15:44, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe I missed it, but what about gourd? It's hard to miss, I'm pretty sure he never had it.Faust-RSI (talk) 15:48, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
There's no gourd, at least I can't see it. Chapter/page?--Elveonora (talk) 15:53, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Counting colour spread as one page, it 7 page, the best is the last frame after Sasuke teleported. You can clearly see the guard and the grip. Faust-RSI (talk) 15:59, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Check the technique's manga debut. It looked like that when he pierced Oro too.--Elveonora (talk) 16:06, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, found it, thanks. Faust-RSI (talk) 16:09, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Rinnegan's unmentioned ability... Edit

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I've read through Sasuke's Abilities section and I want to point something out. In chapter 678, page 4 it implies that Sasuke's Rinnegan has the ability to see the into the dreams of the shinobi trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi. It looks the same as the first person view as the Byakugan, the colour is just not inverted, as seen in the official coloured version. Should it be mentioned or is it trivial? Sparxs77 (talk) 20:42, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

That is not him looking into them. It is done to show us what some of the victims are going thought. Similer to Narutos sage training he was feeling a sense of danger for his village and we kept on seeing the village under attack. Does that mean he has super vision?
Besides what does seeing a into a persons IT dream have to do with him teleporting"?" around the battlefeild before the IT is cast? --Darkhunter-X (talk) 21:02, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, no. Kishi was just showing us some of the Allied Shinobi Forces' dreams. Sasuke's Rinnegan had nothing to do with it. WindStar7125 (talk) 21:03, June 6, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125

New part II pic Edit

How about using this from the latest episode, as his infobox part II pic? He looks a bit angry maybe, but at least not so close-up as the other one. --Kasan94
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 Support — Seems better than the current image. It looks good as well and it's rare that we find a smiling Sasuke image. —Shakhmoot
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I'll change it then --Kasan94
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Granted the art of the image is not as good as the previous one, but this is a better image. The other one was too up-close in his face, and you couldn't see the top of his head. The Obito image has the same problem, and I think that should be changed as well. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:57, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
The new image has shadow all over his face and is unsuitable because of it.
I like this, or at least I like it better than the current or previous. ~SnapperTo 18:15, June 16, 2014 (UTC)
I would still say I prefer the current one. Yes it has shadows on his face (maybe we'll get a better one in the next few episodes). But I just thinks he looks more..... alive.. In the one you suggested he have very dead eyes, as far as I think. --Kasan94
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I agree, I think we can find a better Part II image than the current one, but I don't like Snapper's image, mainly because he looks exhausted and barely awake. And though the art of the prior image was spectacular, it was too zoomed in on Sasuke's face, where as the Part I image shows all of Sasuke's head, and I think both images need to be consistent with how much of the character they show (and that goes for every character's infobox images). --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 02:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
Well at least the next chapter will probably feature Sasukes group in the entire chapter, so maybe we get lucky there --Kasan94
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Why wait? Why hope for luck? Why not find some other image from one of the other 300 episodes of Shippuden that does not have the current's shadows? ~SnapperTo 07:29, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

I got some good pics from episode 366 of Sasuke close up. I'll upload them and you guys can choose what you want. They are Here and also here

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Sasuke's part II image was just changed last week, there's really no need to change it again. Besides, between stretching and a bit of blurriness, none of these are the same quality as the current image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:00, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

I just put in a better quality image. Somebody was deleting my uploads, so it forced my hand. WindStar7125
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18:13, June 19, 2014 (UTC) I don't like the one you have put up now, He just looks wrong. I'm changing it back, until we reach an agreement on this point, and please don't change it until we agree on something here. --Kasan94
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Talkpage 21:18, June 19, 2014 (UTC) Well, what was wrong with it? WindStar7125
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His hair covers to much of his face I think, if you try and compare to the current one. --Kasan94
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But the current image does not really look too much like Sasuke- the character model just looks "off." I propose we change it back to WindStar's image until we can find a perfect picture that satisfies everyone. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 01:24, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
I agree.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 04:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
That's exactly what I thought, Kirin98. WindStar7125
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I can't agree with you on this one bit. But if it's the opinion of the majority then I'll have to go along with it. --Kasan94
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Why are people changing the image just because they can? I see literally no consensus here for any of the suggested images and if I can find the image that was being used long before this message was added, I'll add it back in (assuming it even exists). Also, why is there an obsessive need to keep changing the image in the infobox? Pick one and leave it there. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 08:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
File:Sasuke Shippuden.png ~SnapperTo 08:46, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
But the problem is that it is too zoomed in onto his face, and you can't see his entire head like you can in the Part I image. It's inconsistent. We had the same problem with the Obito image, and that was fixed, and so therefore, I think this should as well. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 17:43, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
It might be zoomed in "too close", but it's the image that had a consensus. None of the images that have been suggested have any consensus for use, hence why the original image that had a consensus was restored. If you can indeed generate a consensus on this, then it can be changed: for sake of not clogging the TP up with discussion on this, it might be prudent to make a thread and add a topic of the article for more notice. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 12:23, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

The Last Uchiha Edit

Since both Madara and Obito are now listed as "deceased", should Sasuke be mentioned that he's the sole survivor of the Uchiha Clan within his introductory paragraph?--The Zeitgeist (talk) 04:47, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. So, I say proceed.--Hockey Machete (talk) 05:59, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Alright then.--The Zeitgeist (talk) 06:06, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan Edit

sorry guys I don't mean to start an argument but, sasuke has 9 tomoe in his rinnegan. I know that his rinnegan also appeared to have 6 as well later on, but that was after he had used his teleport ability. in the chapter where sasuke's rinnegan was first shown, he had 9 tomoe in his left eye. let me explain. in the first chapter in which his rinnegan was first shown, if you look at the rings in sasuke's rinnegan, you'll notice that on the first 3 rings he has a total of 9 tomoe, then later after he use his ability he appear to only appeared to have tomoe on the first 2 rings, having a total of 6. who knows if this is a drawing error, but when his rinnegan was first shown he had a total of 9, appearing on the first 3 rings in his rinnegan.--Ankhael (talk) 14:36, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

He was consistantly depicted with six Tomoe. If there's a reason for him sometimes having more or if Kishimoto screwed up, we don't know. For now, he has six. • Seelentau 愛 14:46, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

only after he was using it consistantly, however you right. I still think its appropriate to add that he did infact 9 tomoe before he used and battled with madara.--Ankhael (talk) 14:51, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

kishi has also consistently drew the jubi with six tomoe on occasions.--Ankhael (talk) 14:57, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Dude, I've tried to argue this before. It's not going to persuade anyone. WindStar7125 (Talk) WindStar7125 (talk) 15:50, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

He was shown with nine tomoe once, and with six in every panel they're visible since. Six until there's substantial reason to say differently. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:12, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Aw, come on Omnibender, at least you can make a small trivia, make a little note that "when sasuke first appear with his rinnegan, it appeared to have nine tomoe, later it was depicted with six tomoe".--Ankhael (talk) 16:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure that already is stated somewhere.--Elveonora (talk) 16:49, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, Elve, no it isn't. WindStar7125 (Talk) WindStar7125 (talk) 17:34, June 17, 2014 (UTC)
It will likely be placed in the page of drawing errors (because yes, it is a drawing error). There is no need for a Trivia point here since it has been consistently shown with six since then. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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"Like the Shunshin no jutsu Edit

  • In the mangastream translation, Naruto said that Sasuke was able to move around LIKE the shunshin no jutsu...... what does that mean & was it an accurate translation? If so, should it then be added to his abilities
    • Sasuke has the ability to move around likened to the shunshin no jutus
Or something like that?--Deathmailrock (talk) 07:30, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
The translations of this weeks chapter are even worse than they usually are, so we can't really tell yet. Please wait for me to get my hands on and translate the raws. :) • Seelentau 愛 08:23, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

at this point Edit

Wouldn't it make sense to create an article for the teleportation technique? I mean, we've made for Kaguya's techniques, so why not his?--Elveonora (talk) 23:36, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

I can't agree yet. We don't even know what it does. So far we've seen Sasuke disappear and then reappear. Sure we've seen him do it a few times now, but combine that with Naruto's comment that it is "like the shunshin", and even then we don't know what it does. Vanishing and then reappearing isn't worth an article. When we see its mechanics, like if he has to focus his eye, or if he simply has to focus to teleport, then we can do something with it. Otherwise, we simply don't know enough. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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23:50, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
I wouldn't oppose waiting, but latest chapter made it clear (to me at least) that it is space-time ninjutsu. Shunshin is simply fast movement and unless Sasuke's so fast that he can walk through air, he teleported himself and Naruto to Kaguya--Elveonora (talk) 23:54, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Honestly I think Naruto was comparing it to Hiraishin, which gets called shunshin a lot lately for some reason. I agree with you, but again, disappearing and then suddenly reappearing isn't special. Even Konohamaru can do that. Until something happens to distinguish it, though, I see no need. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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23:57, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Fair points, but if we don't learn anything more about this technique soon, then I propose we create a page about the technique and we give it the name ourselves. For instance, we created the names of techniques like "Dimensional Shifting", "Space-Time Portal", and "Black Zetsu Merging Technique." And to be honest, we know even less about those techniques than Sasuke's teleportation technique. Let me know how you feel about this. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:47, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
How do you figure? We know exactly what those techniques do. "Dimensional Shifting" allows Kaguya to rewrite reality to create new dimensions, as per Kakashi's own explanations, the "Space-Time Portal" is obvious. She creates a portal and teleports with it. We've always known what "Black Zetsu Merging" does and his "Recording" technique has existed since Part I. I think you're getting antsy because we created pages that have no official name for Kaguya and Zetsu, but don't acknowledge that not only do we not have a name for Sasuke's Rinnegan technique, we also don't know what the hell it does. Seriously. One moment he (or his sword) is in one location, the next moment he is elsewhere. That is all we know. That does not constitute a page. Hell, that doesn't even constitute a Trivia point. All we know about it is on his article and should remain that way until we actually get some mechanics here. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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21:55, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, fair points. But I wouldn't count on an explanation on how it works- if there would be one, it would have been in 674 when it was introduced. What we do know is that he can teleport himself and other people and objects a great distance. He can also use this ability to switch places with another person or object. There is a limited space in which he can use this technique, and it is compared to Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique. All that information above is, in my opinion, worthy of an article. That being said, if the mechanics are never explained and/or the technique is never given a name, are we still not planning on creating a page for the technique? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:12, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
What do you think of the points I've made? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 13:12, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
Once again, my question remains unanswered. If there is nothing more that we learn about Sasuke's technique at any point in the series, will we still not create a page for Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation technique, or will we actually create a page with our own name and explanation? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 18:50, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
No we will not. Vanishing and reappearing can be chalked up to a Body Flicker Technique, for one. So if this is all we get on it, then tough pancakes. We're not in the business of inventing explanations when we have none. In every instance of the technique being used, we get too panels. One where Sasuke is standing still, and the next he's a few yards away. Again, Body Flicker can accomplish this too. The only reason we even know its Rinnegan-related is because Madara said he was starting to "figure out" Sasuke's "eye power". That still tells us absolutely nothing about it. Right now, it is documented. Everything we know about it is contained in a sentence (we literally only have a sentence worth's of explanation about it), which is also referenced, in his Rinnegan section. If and when it is explained, be it in the manga, or a databook, then a page can be made. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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19:39, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
Like I've said, you make fair points, and I don't disagree with you. However, I just have the issue that there are pages like Black Zetsu's recording ability, and we know virtually nothing about how it works or it's real name. Besides, I think more people than you and I should be the ones to decide the course of this dilemma. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:18, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
I, again, am telling you that you are being very narrow sighted. Black Zetsu's recording ability has been known about since early Part II, and was used as far back as the end of Part I. We may not know how he does it, but we know what it does, what it has been used to do, and what its purpose is. Hence why there is a decent sized article about it, and only once sentence about this ability. There is no one else needed, its not going to be created with the information had. Period. Even if, by some act of God, you manage to get it created, Cerez, Ultimate, and Spey will immediately request its deletion (rightfully so) because they despise useless articles as it is. Drop it until we know more. Sasuke, so far, has done absolutely nothing special. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
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Very well. Despite our differing opinions, I have enjoyed conversing with you about the subject. Thank you for your insight. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:58, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Final Susanoo Edit

The abilities section says that 'Following the recovery of Itachi's transplant, the final stage of his Susanoo underwent a drastic change, with scaled hands, a beak-like hood and a larger bow, with a more shield-like appearance, giving it an overall more intimidating appearance.', however, Sasuke acquired this version of Susanoo during his fight with Kakashi and Team 7, which took place before the transplant.

Madara solos (talk) 12:21, June 26, 2014 (UTC)Madara solos

No. That was his Susanoo before the transplant, when he had the MS. It had teeth and looked like Itachi's. Check Sasuke's Susanoo gallery. WindStar7125
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"Rinnegan Teleportation" Technique Page Edit

Given that we have created techniques that have not been given proper names such as "Black Zetsu Merging Technique", "Event Recording", "Dimensional Shifting", etc., I think we should create a page that revolves around Sasuke's teleportation abilities. For instance, we could call the technique "Rinnegan Teleportation", "Teleportation: Rinnegan", "Teleportation: Sasuke", or something more creative. What do you think? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:15, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Sasuke_Uchiha#at_this_point--Elveonora (talk) 15:23, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that... That subheading title didn't really scream out "name of Sasuke's teleportation technique." --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:42, June 29, 2014 (UTC)
I have a thing for fancy titles--Elveonora (talk) 20:45, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities Edit

Shouldn't we add Water Style, Earth Style, and Wind Style to his Chakra Natures since he has the Rinnegan? Just because he hasn't used any of those natures, doesn't mean he doesn't have them. We did the same thing for the Sot6P and yet we never saw him use them. We also never saw Hagoromo, or Madara use the Six Paths Technique yet those were put on there. So shouldn't Sasuke have those Jutsu's and chakra natures added to his profile?Sanbi221 (talk) 21:36, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

I swear this thing has to be explained like every damned week. Rinnegan doesn't grant anyone natures, it simply allows him to learn them faster. I don't know the reasoning behind Hagoromo having all natures in his infobox. For Madara, he specifically told Obito that he would teach him Six Paths Technique, meaning he could use all 6. Hagoromo probably invented it, unless his mother did, in which case usage of all paths is questionable--Elveonora (talk) 21:42, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Elveo is right. Except for the Madara thing. Madara has all 5 because he's actually used them not because of the Six Paths. Wood = Water + Earth, Fire (duh), Wind (fanned Gunbai), and Lightning (apart of storm release). -- KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 21:50, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Oh I see. I've always been under the assumption that once you have the Rinnegan you're automatically granted all 5 Chakra Natures since every user except Obito and possibly Hagomoro has used it.Sanbi221 (talk) 02:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

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