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| + | In The Boruto Movie, Sasuke Said He Could Still Sense Naruto's Chakra Even Though He Was Taken To A Different Planet/Dimension, Something Nobody Else Could Do. Shouldn't That Be Noted In His Page Somewhere? [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 06:58, November 15, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | According to Naruto Gaiden 700+8, the tomoe of Sasuke's Rinnegan appear when he's at full power and when he's drained, he loses them...but he was able to use Amenotejikara while it was a "regular" Rinnegan. What? |
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| + | :He is already listed as sensor.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:55, November 15, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::That's...Not What I'm Referring To. I'm Referring To His Ability To Sense Across Planets/Dimensions. I Feel Like It Should Be Noted In His Page Because Nobody Else Can Do It.[[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 23:12, November 15, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Can't they sense each other because of the whole being a half of rikudo's power thing?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::Wasn't it that they lost the power after sealing Kaguya? [[User:Thatuserwiththenamethatislegendarylong|Thatuserwiththenamethatislegendarylong]] ([[User talk:Thatuserwiththenamethatislegendarylong|talk]]) 13:39, November 16, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::: Sasuke shouldn't be listed as a sensor type in the first place though, Elve. He can only detect Naruto due to Naruto having the other half of Hagoromo's chakra. He has shown no ability to sense others.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 20:10, November 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | + | I didn't add him as a sensor, whoever added him should reason so.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:37, November 20, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :@SuperSaiyaMan: When was such an ability between the two transmigrants even established? O.o--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:43, November 21, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :He may have mastered Amenotejikara to a point where he didn't need to use too much chakra. For more grandiose techniques such as maybe the Six Paths Technique and its variants, yeah, he might need the full power of the Rinnegan. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 06:04, June 18, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :: Both Sasuke and Naruto were able to sense the Hagoromo chakra within each other. Hence why Naruto could sense Sasuke when he was in a different dimension and vice versa. Unlike Naruto however, Sasuke has shown no ability to sense other people's chakra.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 20:27, November 21, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::: Ok... But ''when'' and ''where'' was it said that it's because of ''that'' that the two were capable of sensing each other? Don't get me wrong, it makes sense, but it was not established whatsoever. All we know, Sasuke was a sensor all along...--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 08:05, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :::: Which is why he needed Karin's sensory ability? Which is why he couldn't sense Kabuto? Which is why he couldn't do any sensing abilities before or sins? The only person he sensed is Naruto, and it was stated because both of them share Hagoromo's chakra.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:21, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::: You know he could've picked up the skill, right? You're basing the whole "Sasuke can sense Naruto and vice versa" idea on speculation alone, especially since it wasn't even mentioned that transmigrants have any sort of connection between each other.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:27, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::::@SuperSaiyaMan, I'm not understanding your position here. You just said Sasuke was able to sense Naruto via Hagoromo's chakra, and yet he isn't a sensor? If you can sense chakra, you're a sensor. And anyway, you're position is speculatory, for it hasn't been established anywhere. My understanding, he sensed Naruto's chakra. He's a sensor.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Uzushiogakure Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 20:46, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :::: How can he 'pick up the skill'? The manga has it your a sensor or your not, its not a jutsu one can learn. Sasuke has only sensed Naruto. He hasn't sensed anyone else. He didn't sense Sakura, he didn't sense Obito, he didn't sense Kakashi, he didn't sense Kaguya. He only sensed Naruto. And Minamoto15, Sasuke's only sensed ONE person and has shown no ability to sense other's, that's different from what every other sensor has been able to do.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 21:07, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | Tidbit: Sasuke doesn't need Hagoromo's chakra to sense Naruto's, as shown in chapter 616. Carry on. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 21:55, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | We know that his Mangekyo was supposed to be his EMS(art error in this chapter), but it is confirmed he has a normal Rinnegan but it is powered up basically 2 Rinnegan in one with his Left EMS Powers put into it adding 6 tomoe to it, when he overuses it, it's back to a normal tomoe-less Rinnegan and we didn't know this before because he simply closed his eyes before. Btw, DB4 says Amenotejikara is a Rinnegan tech regardless, it seems it is just his personal tech, like Madaras personal tech is Limbo [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 06:08, June 18, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | : And that chapter explicitly said that Sasuke ''isn't'' a sensor. Orochimaru commented on it.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 22:14, November 22, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Right, that chapter, if anything, supported the theory that chakra can be felt by everybody (given that it's strong enough) and that sensors simply trained that feat or are born just more sensitive. |
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| − | :It's also possible he could only teleport with the tomoe Rinnegan, and when it reverted to its original Rinnegan form he had to wait to regain chakra before transforming it, again. He didn't say he used the normal Rinnegan form to teleport. [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 07:11, June 18, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | ::It also showed that if Sasuke really became a sensor, it wasn't before the Fourth Shinobi War. Could very well be that he trained that feat while roaming around the world (he also "sensed" Shin somehow), but at the same time, being able to sense the connection between him and Naruto makes sense to me. [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 03:32, November 23, 2015 (UTC) |
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| + | :"Both Sasuke and Naruto were able to sense the Hagoromo chakra within each other. Hence why Naruto could sense Sasuke when he was in a different dimension and vice versa. Unlike Naruto however, Sasuke has shown no ability to sense other people's chakra." SuperSaiyaMan, In The Boruto Movie He Said He Could Sense Naruto's Chakra, To Let Boruto Know That Naruto Was Still Alive. I Originally Brought This Up Because He Was Sensing Naruto Across Vast Distances Or In A Different Dimension (I Wasn't Sure Which Momoshiki's Planet Was), Not To Discuss Sasuke's Status As A Sensor, lol. [[User:Bob1200|Bob1200]] ([[User talk:Bob1200|talk]]) 04:13, November 23, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Healing Power == |
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| − | There seems to be confusion on whether Sasuke has Hashirama's cells or not. Even if he doesn't have his arm, would he not still have his cells due to Kabuto implanting them into him when healing him? Also, if you're going to say that Kabuto didn't implant the cells into him but used his "study" of the cells to help him then can you link the chapter please? Cause that doesn't make any sense. How does the study of Hashirama's super cells help Kabuto heal Sasuke faster? Would it not make sense for him to be implanting Hashirama's cells into him? --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 17:45, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Well thing is that it actially creates even more mess that we have already, Kabuto implanting Hashirama cells(instead of using knowledge) into Sasuke means that Kabuto himself had them. As we know implanting Hashirama cells is very hard to achive(considering Yamato is sole survivor and Danzo needed Shin's hand) while i ready to buy that Sasuke is able to "acept" them(as Madara did) i doubt that Kabuto is can do the same. Moreover in fight with Itachi and Sasuke, Kabuto stated that his healing power stems from Karin, if had Hashi cells why did not he mention it as better source? ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 18:03, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::You don't need the cells in your own body to apply them to another body, lol • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:16, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::So snake-hose was not from Kabuto's body?And i didn't see anything that even remotely resembles any equipment(medical for this matter) near Kabuto. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 18:20, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::No idea, but he said he used them, not the he himself possessed them. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:21, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Yes, it's quite possible that Kabuto simply carried Hashirama's cells and later implanted them into Sasuke. What I'm trying to say though, is if the translation of that chapter is correct, then Sasuke certainly has Hashirama's cells, then he has the healing power doesn't he? That should settle the whole editing war going on on the Healing Power page ya think? --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 21:47, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Well i don't know considering amout of cells that need to heal pierced heart is minimal i don't even think it can work with him. Anyway i think we must list only people who actually displayed this feat and exclude Jugo, Yamato, Sasuke, Naruto who didn't show it. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 23:09, June 19, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Animated Rinnegan Pic (Boruto trailer)? == |
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| − | I can add it, but didn't want to do anything without consensus.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 03:15, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :I was gonna upload it but it didn't show all 6 tomoe fully. I'd wait a couple of weeks for the anime but thats just my opinion. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 03:39, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::It's cool. The current picture is a really good one after all.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 04:37, June 25, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Part 2 picture == |
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| − | I think his part two picture should be changed to one of these: |
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| − | http://imgur.com/7Nx32Tl |
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| − | http://imgur.com/aEfR5r8 |
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| − | http://imgur.com/91Y4QGN |
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| − | ([[User:Clear Waters|Clear Waters]] ([[User talk:Clear Waters|talk]]) 19:17, June 28, 2015 (UTC)) |
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| − | :I'm fine with the current one, as other people are. Besides the first image has lightning streaks and a curse mark visible, the second one shows the Akatsuki hood (which isn't something he prominently wears), and the third image I'm pretty sure is edited. All in all, no. --[[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]] ([[User talk:SSJ2AJB|talk]]) 19:26, June 28, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Yin–Yang Release? == |
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| − | "It states that Naruto was able to perfectly demonstrate the power of Yin-Yang Release after obtaining Hagoromo's power. The panel this caption goes with is the one in which Naruto is trying to explain to Sakura how he created Kakashi's new left eye, meaning he used Yin-Yang Release to create it, not just Yang Release to "regenerate" it." |
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| − | The Databook mentions Sasuke? Or that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang Release in general? [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:04, July 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Databook states that those "touched by Hagoromo" have Yin-Yang Release. |
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| − | :{{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 00:05, July 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Interesting... Some source? [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:10, July 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :The databook? :| • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 00:38, July 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Thank you guys! [[User:Daidarabotchi|Daidarabotchi]] ([[User talk:Daidarabotchi|talk]]) 00:45, July 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | == Animal Path? Asura Path? Human Path? NARAKA PATH?! == |
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| − | There is NO confirmation that Sasuke has these abilities. Just because he has the Rinnegan does ''not'' mean he can use them. He doesn't even show a single trait of their use! Don't sit here and tell me 'Oh. All Rinnegan users have the ability, though!' No they do not! Does it say this in a Databook? Am I mistaken? He never uses the abilities, so they shouldn't be in his Jutsu panel. Just because Madara, Nagato, Obito, and Hagoromo show it, doesn't mean Sasuke has the ability. I've seen this same type of argument on multiple different forums, and each time, the same people are involved. And, each time, it's 'Oh. They didn't show the ability and it wasn't even in the Databook.' that is triumphant. Why the heck is this any different? It's not in the Databook. It isn't shown in the Manga. Don't assume something like this. --[[Username:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Alright… Calm down. Sasuke's usage of Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path shows that he can use the [[Six Paths Technique]].--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]21:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I apologize. Sometimes I go overboard. But the point of this is, the Six Paths Technique was never even confirmed to be an actual Technique. It's just a reference to being able to use all 6 (7, when counting the Out Path) Paths of the Rinnegan. But Sasuke only shows the usage of 2 Paths; the Deva and the Preta. In no way does that mean he can use the other ones. Don't you think he would have made use of ''at'' ''least'' the Asura Path in his fight with Naruto? I don't know about ''you'', but I woulda used the 4 extra arms to my advantage at some point. Hell, that ''really'' could've been a game changer. I mean, a Chidori ''really'' could've done quite a bit of damage if used with 6 arms. My point is, he used ''2'' Paths. If he had used 1 more, we could pretty much ''confirm'' he could use all 6. But he doesn't. Meaning they shouldn't be in his file. --[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:45, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::The fact that it's called the Six Paths '''''Technique''''' makes me think it's an actual technique. And about Sasuke's usage, well, same goes for Obito and Madara: only Nagato used all the Paths, the others – even true Rinnegan wielders – didn't. But it's ridiculous to say that Madara couldn't use the powers Nagato displayed through the former's eyes, and Obito was taught the Six Paths Technique from Madara himself. To put it simply: if one can use a Path, one has access to the Six Paths Technique, that's all.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]21:50, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::When the hell did the manga ever even give it that name? Are we assuming it was its name? Or was it really given the name? And I wasn't saying Sasuke would '''''never''''' learn it. I was saying that he hasn't displayed the other ones. Hence why it should not be in his files. At least, not yet, that is.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 21:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::Chapter 606, page 15. Sasuke didn't learn Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path either, just pulled them out of his butt like nothing. The point here is, we don't list Sasuke as a user of the techniques, just of the Paths, as having the Rinnegan automatically grants them (heck, it's even called the "Eye of the Six Paths").--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]22:00, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::He didn't necessarily 'pull them out of his butt'. He saw Madara use them, didn't he?--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 22:10, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Doesn't matter if he hasn't shown it. The Rinnegan grants the user access to the [[Six Paths Technique]], which consists of all the paths, including the ones you're questioning. Just how it is.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 22:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::Well, you just raised more questions for me, but, whatever. I guess everyone can just live with an unconfirmed technique. No skin off my bones.--[[User:ExyleCage]]--ExyleCageWasHere 22:16, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I think every Rinnegan user has access to six paths, but not their derived techniques, as you can see we don't list Basho Tenin or Shinra Tensei to Obito, Sasuke. But we list the paths it is usual for all, even for Hagoromo it is automatically unlocked to whoever has Rinnegan.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 22:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::The idea that Deva, Asura, and so on are all part of a single "Six Paths Technique" is inherently flawed. Chapter 606 does not define what the "''Rikudō no Jutsu''" actually is any more than it explains what [[Will Materialisation|this]] is, how Yin–Yang was supposedly used to create the Zetsu, or how the black rods are supposed to be used with said Rikudō no Jutsu. It's probably the least explained chapter in the whole manga, so I've never understood why the wiki assumes that the "Rikudō no Jutsu" must refer to the various techniques used by Pain. For all we know, Madara could have simply meant he'll teach "Rikudō's jutsu" (as in Hagoromo's techniques) or any other number of things. All that said, chapter 449 confirmed that the Rinnegan grants all of the powers used by Pain, but we don't automatically list everybody with a Sharingan as a Genjutsu: Sharingan user, and that is also an inherent power of the eye.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 22:40, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::That's an interesting point you make, and would've been more valid had Sasuke not pulled Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path out of his ass. He performed them without any training. Turns out Genjutsu: Sharingan, while an inherent power of the eye, is still something that has to be gained through some kind of training. And regarding Chapter 449, well, you reiterated my point. These paths and the Rinnegan is still a package deal.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 22:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::It isn't as though you instantly and automatically obtain the six powers though. Nagato trained with Jiraiya for three years but didn't use any of the Six Paths powers until sometime after their training ended. Sure, Sasuke has the potential to use them all but it's possible he's never actually activated any of them except Deva and Preta. Just like Obito had both Mangekyō but didn't actually use Susanoo, so we don't consider him a user.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 22:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::::::Not really a fan of the Nagato example, because for a long time he wasn't even aware of it until he took down that Iwagakure chūnin, unless I'm remembering that wrong, but point taken. As for Sasuke, his advanced use of the Deva & Preta Paths kinda proves that it does come automatically. Unlike Nagato, he had NO prior training with it. It was brand new. None of us can answer why Sasuke didn't use the others, but we can't deny that he has access to them all, and that alone is enough to leave it be as far as these paths are concerned. It's not like we're listing the derivatives anyway, most of which anyone can easily argue Sasuke has access to. The paths are all part of the origin of the [[Six Paths Technique]], which is bestowed to anyone wielding the Rinnegan. That's my understading anyway.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 23:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I think we all agree Sasuke could use the other four powers if he really wanted to, the question is just whether they should be included in his infobox or not. Personally, I think it could simply be noted in his Rinnegan section that he can potentially use all six paths, but left out of the infoboxes to avoid cluttering them. The same goes for a lot of "parent techniques" and such that characters didn't explicitly use, but I guess that's all part of a larger discussion not suited for Sasuke's talk page.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 23:38, July 11, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :My issue is that I know he HAS them, but he doesn't ''have'' them. Does that make sense? What I mean is, he unlocked them with the Rinnegan, but has no idea that he ''did''. I mean, he saw both Obito and Madara use the Deva Path, and I'm pretty sure he saw Madara use the Preta Path, so he knew he could use them. But, since he didn't see the other paths in use, he ''can't'' use them. See what I'm saying? Maybe in the new movie, he'll see the other Rinnegan users use the Techniques and learn them. But, until then, it is not going to be considered ''his'' ability to use them, as we have no proof as of yet. We're making the assumption that he can use them but he can't. Hell, if we're gonna say he can, then I might as well go say that Asura can use the Six Paths Sage Mode, because it's ''obvious'' he can. But the logic everyone is using for Sasuke, we can do this for every other character who has something related.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 00:08, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Except, Nagato used them all without ever seeing another Rinnegan user use them. Which proves that the paths come with all Rinnegan. Hagoromo was born with Rinnegan, he has the Six Paths Technique, Madara awakened it many years later. Madara has it, he gave it to Nagato, Nagato has it. Obito could use some of it's abilities as well, but not most of them since it drained so much of his chakra and took a huge toll on him. Sasuke awakened his right after Hagoromo gave him his chakra, Sasuke then uses two of it's abilities, and it's stated that his Rinnegan wasn't fully developed, which was probably the reason he didn't use the others. Honestly, this argument doesn't make much sense at all. All of the other original Rinnegan users have this technique, but Sasuke doesn't, just because he hasn't used them all yet? Even though he already used two of them? When his Rinnegan was brand new and not mature yet? What? Also, it isn't obvious that Asura can use Six Paths Sage Mode, since he would need Six Paths Chakra to use that, which he has never been stated to have at all. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 01:31, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :How long did Nagato have his Rinnegan for? Sasuke had it for 10 seconds. Nagato had it from a young age and it took him years to find out a lot of the abilities. Your 'proof' was debunked the moment you said Nagato learned it himself. Why? Because he had it much longer than Sasuke did. In fact, besides Hagoromo, he's the single longest living user of the Rinnegan in history. Madara awakened it near his death before he switched it over to Nagato. How the hell can you say it comes with it when he had more time to learn how to use it than almost every other character in the series? It doesn't prove crap. And you literally just proved my point by saying what you did about Asura. Sasuke was never stated to have had the other 4 (5) paths. You literally just proved me right. Why the hell is everyone in the mindset that it was proven? Hell, it could have even all been given to Madara and Obito just because of how long Nagato had the eyes. The abilities literally could've all come from the eyes themselves.--[[User:ExyleCage]] ExyleCageWasHere 01:45, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I'll just satisfy all of us by using a footnote in the Trivia section saying that, while he has the ability to use them, he doesn't show any use as of yet.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere 01:58, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Him having it longer doesn't change the fact that he later learned how to use all of it's abilities on his own instinctively. He had no training from anyone at all, meaning it already had those abilities. Sasuke hasn't been stated to have the other paths, but since he has the Rinnegan, he automatically has them. That's how the Six Paths Technique works, all Rinnegan users get those abilities, they all have demonstrated either all or some of the same abilities. There is literally no reason to believe Sasuke doesn't have them other than him not using all of it's abilities when having a newborn Rinnegan, which is ridiculous. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 02:47, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Are you even reading the discussion? I said he didn't know how to use them! I never said he didn't have them! I just meant that he didn't have the ability to use them at the time because he didn't have a properly mature Rinnegan, meaning they would have taxed his body too much. I never made, nor implied, that he couldn't do it! I said he didn't have the ability as of yet! And it IS justified, NOT ridiculous, because extra mechanized arms would have been ''pretty'' damn useful at the time of the fight with '''both''' Kaguya ''and'' Naruto. 4 arms to hold the opponent down while using 2 for Chidori or some other attack would have been a really useful ability. But, again, I am more so on the side that he ''did'' have them, but there is no proof he could do so at the time. Though, now that I think about it, it could have been that he was already extremely taxed over the initial fight with Kabuto and Madara. Either way, he didn't use it. I hate to say this, but it shouldn't be in his file.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere 03:06, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Well of course there is no proof that he could use them at the time, I'm not saying that Sasuke could use them at the time. He just didn't know how too or couldn't use them all at the time because his Rinnegan was new. But he still possess the ability to use them is what I'm saying which is why he should be listed. Currently, Sasuke is in his early 30s and fully grown with his Rinnegan fully maturing and capable of even traversing dimensions. There's no doubt that he can use all of it's basic abilities now just fine but chooses not too or hasn't had a need too yet. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 03:13, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Oh. Okay. Sorry about that. I thought that YOU thought I meant that Sasuke would never learn the abilities. I understand your point, now. I'm sorry for this whole thing. I'm also sorry I started to lose my temper. I really hope there are no hard feelings.--[[User:ExyleXage]]ExyleCageWasHere |
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| − | It's fine, I don't get upset that easily, there aren't any hard feelings and I'm not upset at all. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 03:26, July 12, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | You gotta admit, though. Sasuke using the Asura and Outer Paths would be freakin awesome.--[[User:ExyleCage]]ExyleCageWasHere |
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| − | The only Members of the Uchiha are Sakura, Sarada and Sasuke himself, wouldnt that make him the Clan head, since Sarada is a child and Sakura only being married into the Clan??--[[User:Keeptfighting|Keeptfighting]] ([[User talk:Keeptfighting|talk]]) 05:29, July 17, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :Technically,yes.But he hasn't really been around to manage what's left of his clan.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 13:44, July 17, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | Why is my thing getting roll backed? I'm just trying to contribute on this wiki but its like I can't do anything. All I put was "He showed genuine affection towards her, by tapping her on her forehead (like his brother did to him as a child), before he left to explore the world to seek redemption for himself. His affection for Sakura, later led him to finally giving her a chance, and entering a relationship with her. The two eventually got married, and had a daughter together. Whats the matter with that? Its just a wiki, people should be free to contribute and its not like what I said was wrong, so whats the problem? :/ ([[User:O0o0o0ox|O0o0o0ox]] ([[User talk:O0o0o0ox|talk]]) 03:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC)) |
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| − | Please have a look at the history, and review your edits. I already replied to your question on your talk page. Basically, your edits are getting reverted because you are also completely messing up the pages.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:00, July 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I've seen this before. This appears to be a known bug of the visual editor, which O0o0o0ox's edits are tagged with. Try making your edit using the regular source mode editor. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:03, July 30, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | I did it with the source editor this time. So it shouldn't get roll backed. If there is still a problem, let me know why, please. ([[User:O0o0o0ox|O0o0o0ox]] ([[User talk:O0o0o0ox|talk]]) 19:58, July 30, 2015 (UTC)) |
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| − | Why does it say Sasuke is smiling? "Sasuke is then seen sitting on a rooftop with Sakura, both smiling, as they watch Boruto, Sarada, and Mitsuki, hinting that his mission is finally over and he officially returns to Konoha." He isn't smiling here: http://imgur.com/BuL18Ws ([[User:AcMiillanFan|AcMiillanFan]] ([[User talk:AcMiillanFan|talk]]) 17:59, August 9, 2015 (UTC)) |
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| − | :Was a talk section necessary? Go edit it--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 18:15, August 9, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | [http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=54148604&postcount=183] |
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| − | According to the Boruto movie guidebook Sasuke's "new sword" is the Kusanagi.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:33, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :...so? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:34, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::So edits need to be made.I would do it if I weren't on mobile. --[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:37, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::What edits? His sword always was a Kusanagi. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:41, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::Jesus....His appearance profile states he has a different sword. The "Sword of Kusanagi" page makes no mention of its current appearance.And the section that talks about Sasuke’s Kenjutsu makes no mention of the qualities this sword possess in its new form.--[[User:Vacent|Vacent]] ([[User talk:Vacent|talk]]) 12:46, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::Oh, so the article is missing information, lol. Well yes, it was always called Kusanagi, no idea why that was never added. Probably because "hurrdurr, it's nut Oruchimaro's sword". • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:51, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::::[[Sword of Kusanagi (Sasuke Uchiha)]]. Unless for some reason the sword was not referred to as such in this article, it was always called such. Got it's own little article and everything.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:57, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::::Thought so, hence my initial confusion. :x • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:59, August 10, 2015 (UTC) |
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Sensor Ninja
In The Boruto Movie, Sasuke Said He Could Still Sense Naruto's Chakra Even Though He Was Taken To A Different Planet/Dimension, Something Nobody Else Could Do. Shouldn't That Be Noted In His Page Somewhere? Bob1200 (talk) 06:58, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
- He is already listed as sensor.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 17:55, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
- That's...Not What I'm Referring To. I'm Referring To His Ability To Sense Across Planets/Dimensions. I Feel Like It Should Be Noted In His Page Because Nobody Else Can Do It.Bob1200 (talk) 23:12, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
- Can't they sense each other because of the whole being a half of rikudo's power thing?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Wasn't it that they lost the power after sealing Kaguya? Thatuserwiththenamethatislegendarylong (talk) 13:39, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Sasuke shouldn't be listed as a sensor type in the first place though, Elve. He can only detect Naruto due to Naruto having the other half of Hagoromo's chakra. He has shown no ability to sense others.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:10, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
- Wasn't it that they lost the power after sealing Kaguya? Thatuserwiththenamethatislegendarylong (talk) 13:39, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
- Can't they sense each other because of the whole being a half of rikudo's power thing?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
- That's...Not What I'm Referring To. I'm Referring To His Ability To Sense Across Planets/Dimensions. I Feel Like It Should Be Noted In His Page Because Nobody Else Can Do It.Bob1200 (talk) 23:12, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
I didn't add him as a sensor, whoever added him should reason so.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 20:37, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
- @SuperSaiyaMan: When was such an ability between the two transmigrants even established? O.o--Omojuze (talk) 19:43, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Both Sasuke and Naruto were able to sense the Hagoromo chakra within each other. Hence why Naruto could sense Sasuke when he was in a different dimension and vice versa. Unlike Naruto however, Sasuke has shown no ability to sense other people's chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:27, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
- Ok... But when and where was it said that it's because of that that the two were capable of sensing each other? Don't get me wrong, it makes sense, but it was not established whatsoever. All we know, Sasuke was a sensor all along...--Omojuze (talk) 08:05, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Which is why he needed Karin's sensory ability? Which is why he couldn't sense Kabuto? Which is why he couldn't do any sensing abilities before or sins? The only person he sensed is Naruto, and it was stated because both of them share Hagoromo's chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:21, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- You know he could've picked up the skill, right? You're basing the whole "Sasuke can sense Naruto and vice versa" idea on speculation alone, especially since it wasn't even mentioned that transmigrants have any sort of connection between each other.--Omojuze (talk) 19:27, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- @SuperSaiyaMan, I'm not understanding your position here. You just said Sasuke was able to sense Naruto via Hagoromo's chakra, and yet he isn't a sensor? If you can sense chakra, you're a sensor. And anyway, you're position is speculatory, for it hasn't been established anywhere. My understanding, he sensed Naruto's chakra. He's a sensor.--Mina
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- @SuperSaiyaMan, I'm not understanding your position here. You just said Sasuke was able to sense Naruto via Hagoromo's chakra, and yet he isn't a sensor? If you can sense chakra, you're a sensor. And anyway, you're position is speculatory, for it hasn't been established anywhere. My understanding, he sensed Naruto's chakra. He's a sensor.--Mina
- You know he could've picked up the skill, right? You're basing the whole "Sasuke can sense Naruto and vice versa" idea on speculation alone, especially since it wasn't even mentioned that transmigrants have any sort of connection between each other.--Omojuze (talk) 19:27, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- How can he 'pick up the skill'? The manga has it your a sensor or your not, its not a jutsu one can learn. Sasuke has only sensed Naruto. He hasn't sensed anyone else. He didn't sense Sakura, he didn't sense Obito, he didn't sense Kakashi, he didn't sense Kaguya. He only sensed Naruto. And Minamoto15, Sasuke's only sensed ONE person and has shown no ability to sense other's, that's different from what every other sensor has been able to do.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:07, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Which is why he needed Karin's sensory ability? Which is why he couldn't sense Kabuto? Which is why he couldn't do any sensing abilities before or sins? The only person he sensed is Naruto, and it was stated because both of them share Hagoromo's chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:21, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Ok... But when and where was it said that it's because of that that the two were capable of sensing each other? Don't get me wrong, it makes sense, but it was not established whatsoever. All we know, Sasuke was a sensor all along...--Omojuze (talk) 08:05, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Both Sasuke and Naruto were able to sense the Hagoromo chakra within each other. Hence why Naruto could sense Sasuke when he was in a different dimension and vice versa. Unlike Naruto however, Sasuke has shown no ability to sense other people's chakra.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:27, November 21, 2015 (UTC)
Tidbit: Sasuke doesn't need Hagoromo's chakra to sense Naruto's, as shown in chapter 616. Carry on. ★WindStar7125 
21:55, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- And that chapter explicitly said that Sasuke isn't a sensor. Orochimaru commented on it.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:14, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
- Right, that chapter, if anything, supported the theory that chakra can be felt by everybody (given that it's strong enough) and that sensors simply trained that feat or are born just more sensitive.
- It also showed that if Sasuke really became a sensor, it wasn't before the Fourth Shinobi War. Could very well be that he trained that feat while roaming around the world (he also "sensed" Shin somehow), but at the same time, being able to sense the connection between him and Naruto makes sense to me. Norleon (talk) 03:32, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
- "Both Sasuke and Naruto were able to sense the Hagoromo chakra within each other. Hence why Naruto could sense Sasuke when he was in a different dimension and vice versa. Unlike Naruto however, Sasuke has shown no ability to sense other people's chakra." SuperSaiyaMan, In The Boruto Movie He Said He Could Sense Naruto's Chakra, To Let Boruto Know That Naruto Was Still Alive. I Originally Brought This Up Because He Was Sensing Naruto Across Vast Distances Or In A Different Dimension (I Wasn't Sure Which Momoshiki's Planet Was), Not To Discuss Sasuke's Status As A Sensor, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 04:13, November 23, 2015 (UTC)