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Strength of a Hundred Technique (wrong). Yin Seal (correct)

After chapter 632's release, someone has added Strength of a Hundred for Sakura's techniques (and her as a user on that technique's page), when there is no specific statement that she is using that technique. She has the same seal as Tsunade yes, but it is not currently unsealed the way Tsunade's does when using the Strength of a Hundred. Therefore, until the next chapter shows her doing so, shouldn't the technique be removed and just the Yin Seal added? Miraitrunks766 (talk) 10:42, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

How about Shizune's statement for this case? Perhaps Sakura could use it in another way, let's see that in the next chapters. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 10:48, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
I would wait for a more proper translation--Elveonora (talk) 10:57, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Then we wait until another chapter is released. For now, she can focus the Yin Seal, she has not shown to be able to use Creation Rebirth or Strength of a Hundred.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:35, May 29, 2013 (UTC)


You guys are so lame on this wiki sometimes man, what? now we don't know what the diamond on her forehead does? Like we haven't seen what Tsunade does with it? It's the Yin Seal. --99.127.3.165 (talk) 16:41, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

No one disagrees it isn't, she is yet to use it though.--Elveonora (talk) 16:56, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, according to the translation, she already has, but I guess we need to wait for raws. I, personally, don't think we need to.JaZZBaND (talk) 16:58, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed! It seems plainly obvious already that she is capable of using the Yin Seal and at the very least Creation Rebirth. Though going by what Shizune said she is capable of using the Strength of a Hundred jutsu. It was stated outright! Hard to argue with that if you ask me but whatever. I guess we'll just have to wait and see even though we all know what will happen. How could her version be different if she learned directly from the creator herself?!--68.36.225.244 (talk) 17:52, May 29, 2013 (UTC)


I'm just saying, by Shizune words alone we have confirmation. But then again what do I know. --99.127.3.165 (talk) 18:03, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

She can use Yin Seal. Shizune's words already confirmed it. Creation Rebirth and Strength of a Hundred Techniques is a different story. NoJutsu (talk) 18:12, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Can we change the name of the section Chakra Control to Yin Seal?--Etweens96 (talk) 21:35, May 29, 2013 (UTC)Etweens96

No we can not.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 21:41, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Adding the Yin Seal into her jutsu infobox

Shouldn't the yin seal be added into her infobox yet? Freedom Wall (talk) 09:42, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Sakura's Byakugō Seal

Hi. I'm a Tumblr user and a Naruto fan; I don't have a wikia account so I cannot sign my posts. I wanted to say that you guys who edited Sakura's page are wrong, her seal in chapter 632 is called the "Byakugō" Seal, not the "Yin" Seal. I know "Byakugō" Seal sounds exactly like Tsunade's technique "Byakugō", but they are not the same. One is a seal, the other one is a technique. They are different despite the name. And they also have different Kanjis. They also translate differently in English!

Check this Tumblr post made by "Chatte", a Narutobase user(and many more) and a big Sakura fan:

http://chatte-georgiana.tumblr.com/post/51915331158/sakura-does-not-possess-yin-seal-she-possesses-the

Please, edit the Seal's name on Sakura's page and add it to her jutsus. Therefore you should create a new page for this Seal, because it's not Tsunade's "Byakugō", it's something new, a seal which is different than Tsunade's(at leat the name), like Shizune said.

Maybe you'll want to wait for some new chapters and explanations and I get it, but please do edit this later on.

ALSO, another thing, I'd like to tell you that part of Sakura's Trivia is wrong: "Despite being the heroine of the series, Kishimoto stated himself during the 2010 interview that Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura, this is due to the fact that because Sakura not only has a 'normal' background in comparison to Hinata but also because he has a hard time making good roles for female characters like Sakura, having stated on several occasions that he has a very hard time viewing her as the heroine of the series. However, Kishimoto also stated that he would try to have Sakura play more of a heroine role in the future."

--> Kishimoto has NEVER said Hinata would make a better heroine than his main female character, Sakura. I find that irritating because it is untrue. Check this out: http://chatteart.deviantart.com/journal/Naruto-manga-Sakura-The-Heroine-350304283


THANK YOU FOR READING! I just want that page improved, that is all :)

Btw, when are you going to edit those photos that appear first on the pages of the main characters&main supporting characters? Those photos of them from Part 1 are kinda disappointing. The animation got better than that throughout the years. They've also changed and look older.

Thanks again!

VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 11:16, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

We also agree Sakura's 'personality' needs an update. Sakura starting from scratch with zero powers, not being part of a powerful clan and having genin parents, to being the disciple of a hokage and probably surpassing her master just from her desire not to be lower than her teammates. Now that is determination. And many other things. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 11:41, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

If you'd like to read more about Sakura's chakra, power and seal, look here: http://chatte-georgiana.tumblr.com/post/51970314932/did-sakura-possessed-this-power-all-along I believe that to be true and I think it's very good to understand for people who edit here. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 15:37, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Wow my guess is the more chakra she stores the more powerful she'll become when she uses a lot of them I think she's more stronger than Chōji when he uses his Butterfly mode. Well everyone should know why she didn't used it in the past but about the name Byakugō Seal are you guys sure that its called that. Because I think its called Yin Seal w/o the word "Release". Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 16:59, June 2, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
No i think she choose not to use it because she diden't fill it with enough chakra yet so i guess that throughout the whole series she was storing chakra in her forhead until the Seal was readyWhiteraven1 (talk) 17:38, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, she has been storing chakra in one spot for years, so she had been using just a small part of her chakra in her battles. When she releases this seal now, she should have some awesome powers hence the big amount of chakra in it. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 18:35, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
That is what I said and some people still hatin. But what I want to know is why is it called Byakugō Seal when its should be Yin Seal? Because Yin Seal is the diamond seal but the word release means that she is releasing it which she didn't so should the seal be known as Yin Seal? Some people think its Byakugō Seal b/c it says it in the chapter or whatever they saw it you see its a Japanese word b/c some jutsus and words are Japanese language for example: SHAANNAROO Japanese for Cha! Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 17:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
I have no idea why people are calling it that dude it's still the yin seal but for some reason people want to call it Byakugo seal it is essentially the same technique because when Tsunade uses it at the same time she tries to maintain her youth that's why the marks apper on her forhead.When Sakura uses she does not have the handi cap of maintaining her youth so the seal naturally looks different.Whiteraven1 (talk) 17:53, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
I posted some things earlier and you have the explanation for why some think it's called the Byakugou Seal and not the Yin Seal. But we don't know how it's different than Tsunade's. We'll see who's right.
But that doesn't change the fact that, as I said earlier, Sakura's Trivia is wrong! Someone change it please. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 18:35, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Someone please edit the jutsus, trivia and photos. Especially the seal and the wrong trivia. Because it's wrong. I would happily edit her page since I'm a fan of hers and I can remain objective, but you would undo all of my edits so yeah. VanillaSky01109.100.202.96 (talk) 08:59, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Okay so has everyone come to a conclusion about Sakura's Strength of a Hundred Seal and are we still up for fusing the Yin Seal and Yin Seal:Release articles together.74.89.213.43 (talk) 09:21, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, guys, Chatte here. I saw you edited Sakura's Byakugou Seal. It's actually pretty good, however there are still some misconceptions I want to clear. As well about Tsunade. Yin Seal and Yin Seal Release are not the same thing. Yin Seal is basically the seal and the Yin Seal Release is the seal activated, where she has chakra stored for Sozou Saisei or Byakugo no Jutsu. As well, Sakura's Byakugou seal is translated Byakugou no In, Strength of the White Seal since the Kanjis are different. The Kanji for Tsunade’s technique is 百豪

The Kanji for Sakura’s seal is 白豪

Tsunade is 「百」which means “hundred”. Sakura is 「白」which means “white”.

So if you guys would edit this properly I'd be really grateful. If you have something to ask me about these two characters hit me up as I pretty much studied them the most.

Thanks in advance.

Chatte. --Chatte (talk) 10:50, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

So Seelentau's Japanese failed? o__O--Elveonora (talk) 15:05, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it happens, I'm not perfect^^ It's funny, though. Now that I came up with all the Yin Seal stuff, everyone talks about how much they know about Tsunade and Sakura. Where were you guys before I came up with it? If you studied them that much, you should've mentioned a few years ago, when Tsunade used the Jutsu and the databook came out. Seelentau 愛 16:28, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
"Now that I came up with all the Yin Seal stuff, everyone talks about how much they know about Tsunade and Sakura. Where were you guys before I came up with it?" I have personally never felt the need to say anything to you guys here on NarutoWikia cause everything was perfect on Sakura's page, but this thing with the Yin Seal vs. Byakugou Seal and Sakura's Trivia irked me so I had to say something :D VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 17:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Completely ignoring what they are called, isn't there still no evidence that Tsunade and Sakura's seals are different? Unless I missed that part when the term "yin seal" is used besides the technique "yin seal: release" shouldn't we merge Strength of the White Seal and Yin Seal for the time being? Also see the topic below, you too do disagree that she already used it? Because currently many articles say as such T_T--Elveonora (talk) 16:35, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
With all the newbies rampaging through the articles, I'm hesitating to further edit anything. I fear they can't be reasoned with and discussions are senseless. But I don't think she used it yet, as someone already said. Her strength was what she talked about, not her chakra. So no release of the seal there, yet. Seelentau 愛 17:02, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Already did it, super saiyan is getting annoying with his character bias--Elveonora (talk) 17:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
TheUltimate3's thoughts: Yin Seal and White Strength Seal are one in the same. Think of it as a similar situation of Amaterasu and Blaze Release, Amaterasu is a Fire Release technique, but it's flames can are manipulated through Blaze Release. White Strength Seal uses the Yin Seal: Release technique to redistribute the chakra back into the body.
TL;DR: Yin Seal and White Strength Seal: Merge
Yin Seal: Release remains as is.
What else is the problem?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 21:02, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

There is no problem it's everyone is talking so much about what is diffrent and what's the same about the seals that it just has us all on edge.Whiteraven1 (talk) 21:29, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

@Ultimate3, we agree on the same thing, the "problem" is that Seelentau believes them to be different. They should be merged for now--Elveonora (talk) 22:00, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think the seals are different. I mean, Sasura lacked stamina. Tsunade is a Senju/Uzumaki, her chakra reserves are huge. So, Tsunade helped Sakura on this matter, what she lacked. I would call Byakugou a "Yang Seal". I see this way: Tsunade has more yang than yin, so she filled her seal with the type of she lacks, yang. Sakura is a genjutsu type, she is more yin. She lacked yang, so she filled her seal with it to use jutsus that need a lot of chakra. Adding Sakura's great chakra control, she will do perfect. The ammount of chakra used on some jutsus is important, like when Naruto charged the Alliance; Kakashi using that super Kamui, for example.--Narsha (talk) 04:13, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Some misconceptions about Sakura's seal/newest power

I agree to some of the members here. Sakura's newest upgrade it's not because of the seal. She doesn't use chakra inside the seal as the seal it's not open yet.

She just uses her normal chakra, like she did until now, however, now it's more "powerful" so-to-speak, because now she can fully use all her chakra since she doesn't have to redirect part of it to the seal.

Simple example? Economy savings and wage. When you do some savings, you don't have the ability to use all the money from your wage because part of it went to that savings bank-account. However, when your bank account is full and you have finally raised the necessary amount, you can finally spend all your wage however you want because part of it doesn't go to that savings account.

The reason she mentioned that her strike is even more powerful than Tsunade's one is because she doesn't use her chakra outside the seal to keep her youth like Tsunade does.

Her enhancements have nothing to do with the seal besides the fact that the seal is formed so now she doesn't have to redirect part of her chakra to the seal, like I said.

So who will edit this? I would've done it myself however as I see, I can't. I was only able to edit the Byakugo seal page.

--Chatte (talk) 16:31, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Done, at least I hope that's all, there still might be something somewhere--Elveonora (talk) 17:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, dear! Should we try to explain why Sakura's punches impact/speed is greater than Tsunade's? I mean, people have seen it and they surely are confused about it, so don't know, what do you guys say?--Chatte (talk) 21:09, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Also, about chakra transfer. She is able to do it as she's done it with Darui and Naruto, in the recent chapters. She didn't only healed his wounds, she also transferred him chakra since only wound healing would've left him incapacitated of performing the Rasenshuriken.--Chatte (talk) 21:12, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Clarification: Naruto could do Rasenshuriken at any time. The only time it was difficult was when his shoulder was dislocated, which Hinata fixed just before he and Lee nearly cut Tobi and Madara in half. No where have I seen Sakura transferring chakra to someone else.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 21:20, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

If you guys remember, Shikaku said that the medical team should aid in maintaining the jutsus for more than 5 minutes. If you look at Darui, he even seems fatigued however he is still able to perform the jutsu since Sakura is transferring chakra to him. She would've healed him for nothing if he wouldn't have had chakra to perform the jutsu. And Naruto says in the previous chapters that he's out of gas aka chakra. However, after Sakura's intervention he is able to perform the jutsu again.--Chatte (talk) 21:32, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I believe earlier they mentioned that healing the body does replenish chakra, it has nothing about the healer transferring their chakra to that person.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 21:46, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Besides it clearly states that sakura is healing naruto not transffering chakra to him.Whiteraven1 (talk) 21:58, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Naruto wasn't low on chakra, just physically and mentally exhausted, she just made him feel better--Elveonora (talk) 22:03, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Given that chakra is directly tied to stamina and the physical body, you can argue chakra is also transfered, indirectly. But his chakra was replenished, just not by a transfer, because his physical body/stamina was replinished. --Taynio (talk) 22:27, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, and ramen restores his chakra too.--Elveonora (talk) 23:25, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if that was supposed to be a joke or not, lol. But getting food does tend to give one energy and therefore stamina, which in turn allows them to make more chakra. So if meant as a joke, it is actually true, indirectly.--Taynio (talk) 23:51, June 3, 2013 (UTC) 2013 (UTC)
LOL i think you may be refering to video games.It's true that naruto's favirote food is ramen but restoring his chakra from eating food is just silly.Whiteraven1 (talk) 00:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
That's actually quite the insult, as I haven't even played the games, or care to learn anything about them, other than accidentally stumbling upon a few of the related jutsu pages. You also might want to re-read what I have said. If food restores energy to the body, and the body/stamina is used to mold chakra, then chakra is, indirectly, essentially restored. So no, it is actually quite the opposite of silly, and is well supported. --Taynio (talk) 02:22, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

taynio isn't wrong if you think about it...would be nice to see someone not be a complete jerk about what someone says and make fun of it immediately saying oh your talking about a game when what taynio said does indeed make sense, and well you know actually go with whats stated in manga several times. physical stamina and mental stamina is converted to chakra. in real life you get stamina by sleeping and eating. I could get a lot more precise but I really dislike even posting on here anymore, just think whiteraven1 is arrogant sometimes.--208.124.127.18 (talk) 07:11, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Okay look Im sorry i never meant to offend you or anyone i was just saying.Im not being arrogant that is just plain mean.Besides Im still new to this and trying to help in any way i can Im only 16 years old.So im really sorry i never meant to sound mean i was just saying.Whiteraven1 (talk) 09:51, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

@Taynio, it's both true and funny :) the point is anything that makes them restore mentally (sleep, happiness, meditation etc.) and physically (again sleep, food, massage perhaps? 0_0 and other things too, if you know what I mean) restores their chakra, and all green palm no jutsu does is healing their body and easing pain, thus easing any kind of stress thus restoring their well being and by doing so chakra as well, but no transfer is done as you say.--Elveonora (talk) 13:30, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sakura's new abilities

Can someone please add to Sakura's abilities the ability to summon Slugs? As you can see on Naruto's last chapter (633) she summons a giant slug.—This unsigned comment was made by TheOtherSides (talkcontribs) .

I think someone should post a picture of her with the slug from the upcoming chapters. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 20:29, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Well, go ahead. I think it's more important to create the pages for all the new techniques at the moment. Also, remember to sign your posts with four ~ the next time.Norleon (talk) 10:18, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

It has been done, I eblieve. We shouldn't add Katsuyu just yet, however. We have to remember Tsunade summoned her, and we do not know if she is still currently in use, or if Sakura summoned another Slug (because of any number of variables). All we really know at this point is that it is a Slug. Also, given the new summon Sasuke has, along with Naruto, it also may point to it being a new slug, as well. That being said, it could be Katsuyu, but we do not know. --Taynio (talk) 10:23, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Katsuyu can split itself into many smaller slugs, since a small part is with Tsunade, perhaps Sakura summoned the rest? Still speculation though, in more likelihood it's another slug--Elveonora (talk) 12:03, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Someone hasn't added the Summoning Technique to her infobox yet. Freedom Wall (talk) 13:43, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

How do you add anything to her info box? It's unchangeable for me.--Reliops (talk) 14:05, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

It has been added to Summoning Technique. It would take some time until it appears in the infobox (It would happen automatically).--~ UltimateSupreme 14:09, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Due to the current bugs that plague the infobox system, Summoning Technique will only show when she does it in the anime as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:24, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
So EVERYONE ELSE get's Manga Only put next to their jutsu used in their jutsu box, but Sakura doesn't? LOOOL! What BS.--GLEEK (talk) 23:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
you need to watch your language buddy Sakuras ability to use the summoning jutsu will be put in her infobox it just takes time.With all the bugs in the system because many characters have jutsus that are supposed to be in their info box as well but aren't so watch what you say or you will be reported.74.89.213.43 (talk) 00:12, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
OOOOOOO! Didn't actually say anything wrong. You need to calm yourself. I found it particularly funny that it took a whole week to do it, when everyone elses jutsu appeared straight away on their jutsu box, apart from Saukras. So, what? Am I not allowed to point out flaws and hypocracy? I thought wiki's were suppose to be the "people's encyclopedia". Maybe if this wiki wasn't so uptight about what people were allowed to edit, then we wouldn't have to wait so long, and have an inaccurate page. Every other wiki can do it. --GLEEK (talk) 10:37, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
Or you guys could alert the guy coding that there is a different problem then the one he knows about :\ fixed cause i saw gleek's message. — SimAnt 00:39, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Earth Release

As of 630, Sakura should also be capable of Earth Release because A) the instructions were spread throughout the entire Alliance and B) it's a jutsu that anyone can perform. While we did not see them use it, they can. The same way we know Orochimaru now has Mokuton though we haven't seen him use it yet. Plus Sakura has excellent chakra control so I doubt there are any arguments against her ability to the jutsu to which she now has the information. I would say the same goes for Naruto. Any thoughts?--Reliops (talk) 19:47, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Have you forgotten? Sakura was healing Naruto when they did that. Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 19:58, June 8, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98

You're missing the point. Though we did not see her use Earth Release we know that she can for reasons stated above.--Reliops (talk) 20:11, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

So what your saying is that while she was healing Naruto she also used that too? Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 20:14, June 8, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98

No. What I am saying is that she can use is even though she hasn't been shown to because she was given the same instructions as everyone else in the Alliance and because the instructions were for a low-level jutsu that anyone can do.--Reliops (talk) 20:18, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah your right anyone can perform that technique so which means she can too (except Rock Lee). But you see the thing is that even though it never showed her done it she didn't do it at all b/c she was busying healing Naruto. Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 20:22, June 8, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98

I know that she didn't use it, but seeing as we credited Orochimaru with Wood Release without seeing him use it, we should credit her with Earth Release too because we KNOW she can do it. The same goes for Naruto, Tenten, and pretty much everyone that was there and alive with the exception of Rock Lee.--Reliops (talk) 20:27, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wait Orochimaru can do Wood Release? Well I know he can do both Earth and Water Release but Wood. Anyway what your saying makes sense and something I would think and do but the thing is that its not up to me. You can create a forum and let the others decide if its ok to put it up there. Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 20:38, June 8, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
Orochimaru is listed as having Wood Release because the body he took over a Zetsu clone, and those are capable of Wood Release. If people who would be in the battlefield and available to use that Earth Release (not busy doing other stuff, like healing others) are not listed as using that technique, I don't see why Sakura would. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:44, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
Really, huh That is what I've been trying to tell him the only way for her to be listed of having that technique is for it to show her doing it w/o being busy doing something else even though its possible for her to do it. Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 20:49, June 8, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98

We decided on listing only Shikamaru, Ino and Chouji because otherwise we would have to add MANY names there and we don't even know if x character did or didn't do that since it was mostly off-screen--Elveonora (talk) 21:04, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

There aren't that many named characters who were there to hear the access. I would say Gai, Tenten, Naruto, Sakura, Shino, Kiba, Hinata, Omoi and Karui amongst others are now be able to use it. I'd be happy to go through this thoroughly and create a list. I'd just like to have some backing for this. In all makes sense in theory though, the same way it makes sense Orochimaru can use Mokuton.--Reliops (talk) 22:17, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

I am sure many people know many seals to many techniques, or could find out. But that doesn't mean they could perform them. That being said, it is possible for Sakura to know it, given she may have been given the info. I still think we should only list those who were seen using it, though, in the case of the jutsu and etc. But that's just my personal opinion on how to handle such a case. --Taynio (talk) 05:36, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

I get that but I wouldn't be bringing this up if the jutsu wasn't something that anyone could do. I think every character that was present should be given the nature type.--Reliops (talk) 16:16, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

From my perspective i think that even though she knows the hand signs to the jutsu she's not seen performing it because she's busy healing naruto.Therefore sakura should not be listed as a user.Even the allied shinobi forces were informed of the technique we can't be sure to how many used the technique.Also with the rest of Konoha 11 is there any proof that they are even seen using Earth Release because i didn't see it in the manga and the anime has yet to come so until there is further proof that other than the Ino-Shika-Cho they can't use Earth Release.74.89.213.43 (talk) 02:30, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Trivia

Can you please change that Trivia part already? I've stated this a few times above. Kishimoto never said Hinata would be a better heroine than Sakura. That is an unfortunate mistranslation which some people think is right. Well, it isn't. That translation also leaves out Kishimoto bluntly stating Sakura is the heroine and the main female character and not Hinata. It also left out Kishimoto expressing annoyance at people trashing Sakura. I think you should find the correct Japanese version of the interview and ask for help from a Japanese native if the link I provided you a few topics above wasn't enough. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 20:32, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this? I've always doubted Kishimoto actually said too but I haven't heard anything about him expressing annoyance at people trashing Sakura.--Reliops (talk) 22:18, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

I found this from the 2010 Jump Festa interview. I don't know if the translation is correct but

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」 Kishimoto: “Honestly, from the standpoint of showing a female-like disposition, she hasn’t been much of a heroine. You could even say that Hinata’s more of a heroine than her. But since, as we know, Sakura is a heroine deep inside, she’ll show that side of hers from now on.”

this suggests he does not think Hinata is a better heroine, only that that one could say she is more of a heroine. I agree the trivia should be altered or deleted altogether if this is correct.--Reliops (talk) 22:25, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

No offense Reliops but can you quit your bellyaching. It's starting to become annoying. Also the translation above is the incorrect one. It was stated by Kishi that while Sakura was the heroine nonetheless, Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura for various reasons. Reasons why is because even after this interview, which was over 2-3 years ago, he spoke how he still has a very hard time viewing and portraying Sakura as a heroine in comparison to Hinata, despite the difference in panel time. This happens at times for authors for their characters to take on a life of their own.--Michma12 (talk) 03:17, June 9, 2013 (UTC) Granted this is because he also stated he isn't good at creating lead female roles, it's one of his weak points.

Also to Vanillasky, Kishimoto never said anything about being annoyed by fans bashing Sakura. Never once did he say it. That was added by someone, don't know it was, who added his or her own opinion to the translation. It never happened. When you see something like that it's more often than not someone's personal opinion. Kinda like how people didn't like it when he said Hinata would make a better heroine and they decided to edit the translation to their preference. We got several guys here on the site, who know japanese and can read it quite well, who check this information out before adding it.--Michma12 (talk) 03:24, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

I wish Chatte's knowledge and the editor's may be combined on her Bio. Especially the power of her punch and I want to say that to activate the seal it needs to activate it, like duh. When we saw Sakura's seal it just means that she already manage to end her chakra saving up and need to use her own chakra now. It once said that once Tsunade gathers enough chakra her seal reappears just like on Sakura, she finished saving up her chakra and her seal appears but it doesn't mean that she already used it because she need to activate it first.

According to her punch, she doesn't need to reserve some of her chakra on her seal because it's already full (3 years and wow!) so she can release whatever intense the chakra she wants because she doesn't need to save up more.

I want to remind you that her seal is different from Tsunade. Once her seal drained, it's like a ninja without a chakra and need sleep to have chakra (She needs to gather up once it drained but nothing will happen bad on her). Just like us, whenever we lose energy we feel weak and need rest and so like on her. Not like Tsunade that once she have no more chakra she turns into her original appearance and gather chakra for having a rest.

That's all! -- 112.204.12.43 (talk)

Nobody is bellyaching, Michima. Remove your head from your ass. Do you actually know Japanese to begin with? I'd like to see your source and your translations.--Reliops (talk) 16:19, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

I personally don't know japanese. But the admins and guys who posted the stuff you constantly want removed do, and they thoroughly read the content, they do the research and have sources with the accurate information. We are trying to be a neutral but when recent events occur that either contradict what happened before in the manga, such as what was thought to be romance or anything else, we do what we think is right. Some people don't like it, they'll fight it, but they need to deal with it. Much like how people say Sakura is love with Naruto, when it's clearly been proven otherwise that it's nowhere near the truth. Same with Jiraiya and Tsunade, Jiraiya loved her put Tsunade didn't but others want to say otherwise despite the evidence.

Some sources can't be put because it's done via direct contact, not just the internet because much of it can be altered to their liking. Look I know what your trying to do, but the heroine thing was dealt with a long time ago, it got out of hand because many Sakura fans didn't like it and ultimately the higher ups had to lock and put warnings on the trivia saying that changing it will result in your edits being blocked. Don't believe me ask others. --Michma12 (talk) 17:27, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I am sorry. There are so many translations of that interview that I don't know anymore. Like you said, Sakura fans could alter the translations to their liking, but those who don't like Sakura could do the same. So that's why I thought it was wrong. :) I will ask my native Japanese teacher. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 09:47, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother. Just because we don't want a repeat of last time when it was already dealt with and have the section locked down as usual. Last time it was closed for over a month. The admins, head-honcho's who know japanese and have direct sources and those who had people at the interview themselves decided to leave the trivia section a--Michma12 (talk) 11:01, June 10, 2013 (UTC)s is. It wasn't just that interview either that expressed this trivia. Kishimoto stated Hinata would make a better heroine for various reasons, background and who she is as an overall person, etc but that he'd try and have Sakura play a more heroine like role. Even after this interview he still admits he has a pretty damn hard time doing so.

Editing her first bio.

I wish you may add some because it looks so plain. It said that: Sakura Haruno (春野サクラ, Haruno Sakura) is one of the main characters in the series. She is a chūnin-level kunoichi of Konohagakure, a talented medical-nin, and a member of Team Kakashi.

From that point it states that she is one of the main characters in the series and for having that character it needs to have something so great like: A disciple of the greatest medical chuchu and so on. Something like that and also her picture, that was her chilhood pic, she is a teenager now..

And I wish you may add some compliment about those 3 team 7 for having like the sannnin or what so ever..

I just wish you may read this and I know that you have the pressure for all the edits and I'm sorry. I know that you have more articles to edit but I really wish you may read this and have my opinion..

Thanks! Hug's &Kisses!! -- 112.204.12.43 (talk)

We aren't allowed to do that. Agains'--Michma12 (talk) 12:16, June 9, 2013 (UTC)t policy rules.

Really? That's too bad. I think so too; it would be nice to make a parallel between Team 7 and the sannins in Sakura's, Naruto's, Sasuke's intro. It would be nice to say she's the disciple of the Fifth Hokage, like Tsunade herself said.
Shizune's intro is like "the Fifth Hokage's attendant", so why not Sakura.
And I don't know why you're not allowed to change the photos of the Konoha 11+Sasuke, they don't look like that anymore. Or at least upload another one with them as teens like a slideshow above the infobox. Idk. Just a few suggestions. :) VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 09:43, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Sakura Trivia matter

Sakura TRIVIA.

Ok, so I've heard the fact that you guys don't believe that Kishi said that. I have the raw translated by a professional Japanese translator, who actually lived in the country itself for 3 years, yadda yadda. Let me paste you the raw.

中村はやはりサクラの今後について、

As one might expect, Nakamura asked about what was upcoming with Sakura


岸本「正直女らしい意地もみせる周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われているがやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

Kishimoto answered:

I've heard (it's been said) that Sakura doesn't come across as a heroine or that Hinata is more of a heroine than Sakura, even though Sakura is a straightforward and determined woman; but Sakura has a heroic side to her and it will start showing from now on.

Now, as I said, many tried to twist that things, brought different reasons, however, the person who translated me this gave the actual explanation as well.

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

Strictly referring to the raw you posted (the two lines):

言われている is the passive voice of 言う ("to say") 周りから means "from [the people] around" (assuming it's 'people' because only people can say things)

Therefore, 周りから...言われている would be "I've been told by the people around me [that...]" If Kishi himself would want to say something, there'd be no need to use the verb 言う in the first place, he could just go ahead and say what he has to say.

The second line is Kishi's actual opinion. It begins with a が, which is a conjunction used to place two things into opposition in this case (it amounts to "but" in English). He then goes on to talk about Sakura's inner heroine and how we'll be seeing more of that.

Now, I hope it's clear the fact that Kishi never said that. Nothing against Hinata as I am a fan myself, however, for a site that I have been told, wishes to give all the information properly, you guys lack at this part, no offense.

First of all, look at the structure of the manga, the literary stand-point, Kishi's oldest interviews and trivias about him. It makes absolutely no sense for him to have actually declare that. The older interviews say that he is fond of her, that she has a side of humanity in the character which he fancies, also, Kishi said he cannot properly draw female characters, not that he doesn't know how to write them. For a mangaka that has been doing this for 10 years I think he knows what he's speaking about. Also, in the raws, there was nothing mentioned of the background, that was purely invented stuff. All the sources that have the raw don't say anything about Hinata's past. Not to mention the author himself gave Sakura a past as well. But getting past that, you guys didn't even noted which interview was about. Once again, for a site with such prestige you should've know that it was the interview at Jump Festa, which is a highly popular fest in Japan. That totally looks unprofessional, if you ask me. So if we're here to make this site info the best out there, why don't we do it properly and professionally?! So, no offense, but that part was never in the actual raw of the interview, Kishi never stated that so we better get that part out or edited.--Chatte (talk) 21:51, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

YES. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 22:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Draw is an expression. Not draw as in pencil and stuff like that. Draw as in portray her as a heroine. He said that Sakura is the heroine and he was gonna to make her appear more like one but even after this interview he states he still has a very hard time doing so when it comes to her.--Michma12 (talk) 22:08, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

That was just a small part of what she said. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 22:25, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Also do you honestly think we haven't used the raw translations as well before? This site actually has sources who were at the interview or have video sources of the interview itself to get great accuracy, but site policies and regulation state we can't post them. Much like the english translated interviews on the site even the raw interview versions can be altered. Do you honestly think it's just us? We know what we're doing. We want accuracy. This was dealt with a long time ago. Also have either of you seen the omake where Sakura accuses Hinata of trying to become the heroine of the story due to being popular? The animators, who work closely with Kishimoto several times because of his close relation to the voice actors and a few of the directors, was based on this interview.--Michma12 (talk) 22:34, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the omake was clearly done after this. However, if we look at the structure, is due to popularity, like you said, not because of what Kishi said. Two different things. Also, an omake done by Studio Pierrot doesn't equal the opinion of the creator. How many times they kinda messed it up when it came to the manga. Look at Hinata. They put in the anime she knows the 64 palms long time ago, yet, she barely does it now. So, sorry, but an omake doesn't equal Kishi's actual story-telling. Also, I didn't said you don't have the interview, I said that you didn't even noted which interview was exactly, where it was done. I didn't say you have to post the interview. As most people I am sure they don't know Japanese and not everybody knows professional translators. As for draw is an expression, well, I said the fact that he declared he has a problem with drawing the female characters because he has the tendency to make their forehead larger, hence, Sakura's case first. We can see that also with Tsunade. I have seen that interview as well. It's in the character book design also. He referred at the drawing itself. And after that interview, there was no other interview in regards to Sakura's status as a heroine. As for the policies and other thing, once again, I remind you the fact that I didn't said you should post the whole interview. And the sources you have, don't you think others have access as well?! You want accuracy, yet, you post an interview wrong, not even quoting the actual stuff and giving info about the whole event? I worked in the media for the last 6 years, currently doing this also. You say about being altered. Well, how comes when it's about Sakura's state, it can be altered, yet, when it's about Hinata, no alteration? Sorry, but...double standard much? If you recognize one of them, at least admit it that can be the other way around as well. Same as it can supposedly be altered in Sakura's case, same can be altered in Hinata's case. What makes Hinata more special than Sakura? When, if you look at the literary-standpoint you can clearly see that Sakura is the heroine and the way Kishi portrays her speaks volumes. No offence, but I feel a lot of double standards here and when I joined NarutoWikia, I thought I am dealing with professional people here. Also, don't know how highly observant you guys were with a certain interview and manga story-telling. I think we all know that one. I am talking about the initial interview where Kishi stated that he is planning to write about Kakashi and that he will have a big surprise [manga story-telling tells us was Obito] and then, comes Sakura. That happened in 2010, if I remember correct. I will have to double-check here. However, in 2012, the same interview circulated around the internet, where Kishi declared the same thing, only that bit of Sakura was changed and in that interview it was said that nothing in store for Sakura. Now, if you look at the literary standpoint and story plot, Kakashi's year was the past year, his surprise of which Kishi couldn't speak at the time was revealed, aka Obito and we're close to its closure. While we're close to that, who comes next as most prominent, recently? Exactly... Sakura. So there we have it, an interview that was proven false, based on the initial interview and manga structure, story-telling and plot-wise. This is a clear example of alteration! As for the animators who work closely with Kishimoto, I just have you an example that most of the times they don't. The only time they had worked closely with them, was in Road to Ninja, where, guess what... He made them cry! And we must remember who was focused back then. Exactly. Sakura. We all know Pierrot is a Hinata fan, proof of that showed upper in this thread. So sorry, but this matter wasn't resolved at all! It goes all against Kishi's manga, story telling, symbolism, literary structure and not to talk about media alteration. Because this is a clear case of bad information towards a targeted population.--Chatte (talk) 23:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Made them cry? What the heck are you talking about? Also you need to press enter a few more times when you finish a paragraph, hard to read at times. Also Kishi has worked with them before due to his close relation to the staff. Also don't bring up Road to Ninja, Kishi said it was a fun project like the other movie he helped out with, forgot which one it was, but even then he still didn't consider it canon. Also you're wrong. Hinata's state has been altered as well just as much as Sakura. Like I said we want stuff done accurately. Ps. Hinata's only showed 64 palms in the movie, not in the actual timeline or canon. A minor version of the 64 palms known as 32 palms was shown but that's about it.

Also I don't wanna go into a debate of how you think Kishimoto portrays Sakura, go somewhere else for that. Kishimoto is fond of Sakura due to a sense of realism, but like I said beforehand, even after 2010 Kishimoto has stated he has trouble portraying Sakura as the heroine - not because of the forehead, but when it comes to Sakura he has trouble making her look like a heroine and have the characteristics of a one too. He mentioned he's had a hard time portraying female characters with significant roles, it's one of his weak-points. --Michma12 (talk) 23:28, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

It was in one of the interviews Kishi gave for Road to Ninja. You must've known since you said you have sources, right? As for the enter, I did press it, don't know why it appeared like that; probably a glitch. Close relation to the staff? As far as we must remember, he said he didn't participate in the making of the episodes, that he enjoys the episodes similar to us, like a fan. So where is that close relation you're talking about? Why not bring up Road to Ninja, a movie that was completely under the supervision of Kishimoto and we can clearly see the status of each character? Cannon or not, because no one said that is cannon, dunno why you need to bring the cannon stuff in, it clearly shows the author intention and participation in the project. How am I wrong and how has Hinata's state has been altered? I asked you a simple thing, if one can be applied to Hinata, why not to Sakura? You're going to the route of double fallacies again. If you would indeed want the stuff done accurately, you'd do it accurately. While I presented you clear proof and translation as well as clear explanation of the grammar implication within the context, all you say is we have proof, we have this, we have that, we want stuff done accurately, when you don't even post any of that proof, and blatantly say that it is a right thing, when the raws themselves prove you that it's not.

And Hinata showed Gentle Fist in the movie, not 64 palms. I was talking the fillers Pierrot made. Pay more attention to the details, please because there are different cases here. While they might seem similar, 32/64/124 palms imply the movement of the feet in a special way, as well, not just hitting your opponent's organs. Similar, but different. I am sure by now you could've observed that with Neji as well as in the newest chapter, where Hinata reminded Neji's words on how to properly do the 64 palms.

You don't want to go in a debate with me on that you say, but in order to provide accurate information of which you speak of, you must have a debate first. That's how the biggest interviews in this world are done. Via questions and debates upon answering the initial questions. And even if we go by what you say as being the absolute truth, it still doesn't change the fact that in the raws provided, Kishi speaks of the fact that Sakura is the heroine and about the fact he has been told by other people that Hinata is more of a heroine than her, not that he said it.--Chatte (talk) 23:50, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Michma, it's clear that you are no fan of Sakura. But this is WIKI, where you have to put your biased thoughts aside and for once, be un-doublestandard. If you don't know Japanese whereas Chatte have the precise information, translation, don't try and disregard facts. I don't know Japanese myself, but do you really think, that Chatte would make that translation up and declare that she was right and make a total fool out of herself?! NO! She has sources and I believe, much more trust-worthy than that so-called source of yours (if you really had any). And I doubt you read the Japanese ver. of the interview that she posted, only jump on her throat and "defend" Hinata. But what is there to defend? Her so-called "heroine" factor? Does she really have any?

I hope that professional admins or contributors of this website will do something about this, soon. This false information has been hanging around for too long, and it's hightime the problem be fixed. This misinterpretion has diluted Sakura (the main heroine of Naruto)'s image among readers. Many people had noticed this mistranslation before, but noone bothered to stand up and point it out. I'm glad Chatte was the first one to do this. --113.185.7.4 (talk) 05:31, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

In my honest opinion, I believe that both sides have credible arguments. However, both need to be properly verified with evidence and sources. To clear this old issue, please both do so.

If several people are against Sakura's current trivia, then it should at least be checked again for its validity. I'm not saying that it's wrong or right, but that both sides should cooperate with one another. Perhaps, that piece of trivia should be taken down as a compromise until a consensus is reached.Freedom Wall (talk) 13:30, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

I will give you evidence and all you need(although Chatte has already done that) from a native Japanese person who teaches Japanese. If you can wait a month or so. And if you give me the correct Japanese raw, I am more than happy to do it. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 15:47, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

I think we all know which one the sources are... It's either Narutoforums, MangaHelpers or Sayan Island. These are the major three. All of them have the same raws I, personally, provided.

Narutoforums raw text: 周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

Upper in the same discussions I provided the grammar explanation within the context and it's clearly stated that Kishi has been told by others that Hinata would make a better heroine. Once again, may I remind you:

言われている is the passive voice of 言う ("to say") 周りから means "from [the people] around" (assuming it's 'people' because only people can say things) Therefore, 周りから...言われている would be "I've been told by the people around me [that...]" If Kishi himself would want to say something, there'd be no need to use the verb 言う in the first place, he could just go ahead and say what he has to say.

The second line is Kishi's actual opinion. It begins with a が, which is a conjunction used to place two things into opposition in this case (it amounts to "but" in English). He then goes on to talk about Sakura's inner heroine and how we'll be seeing more of that.

And not only I checked it with professional Japanese-English translators, but with Japanese natives as well because I wanted to be certain of this. None of the the implied persons know each other so you could say they copied one another. All of them say the same thing, Kishi has been told, however, he states that the heroine of the story is none other than Sakura.--Chatte (talk) 17:11, June 11, 2013 (UTC)


You honestly think this particular subject hasn't come up before? In the past this was dealt with by the admins take it up with them if you want, if they change it to be more appropriate so be it. Also don't state things you don't know anything about without proof. I also did my research on Road to Ninja, what you said was untrue ... the crying part I mean. Skeptical about the whole Hinata fan thing but I won't disregard it either since they showed Hinata more than Sakura in the fillers but they still did Sakura as well.

I'm not agaisn't Sakura. Sure I'll admit in the first half she was not that great and more than a nuisance but gradually she got better. I'm not one of those people who bash characters for no reason, it's immature. I contributed to her profile and removed a bunch of stuff that slandered or was completely untrue, and put in several bits of information that are one hundred percent true with sources themselves. I know Sakura is the main heroine, I never said otherwise, Kishimoto even said she was the heroine. I never disagreed with that. He did however say that at the time Hinata would have been a better heroine, but Sakura was still the heroine nonetheless and that he'd try his best from then on to portray her as such. However, even after this interview he's made comments on he still has a hard time doing say, that doesn't mean she's not the heroine she still is.

Also here is an interview that occured with Kishi and the voice actors. It appeared virtually everywhere and before we posted the info we in turn validated the accuracy and all that jazz through all sources because it sounded fake because of the way it was phrased. Turns out it wasn't and this the confirmed interview translation:

Each Voice actor asked questions to Kishimoto.

Nakaruma asked about what was upcoming with Sakura.

Kishimoto responded: "Honestly, from the standpoint of showing a female-like disposition she hasnt been much of a Heroine.You could even say Hinata is more of a heroine than her.But since, as we know, Sakura is a Heroine deep inside.She'll show that side of hers from now on."

Naruto's close.But Sakura loves Sasuke as we should expect from that speech.She's being haughty with Naruto using not so kind words agains Naruto.

You wanted a source here.

--Michma12 (talk) 21:31, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

各声優さんから岸本先生に質問 Each voice actor asked questions to Kishimoto-sensei 中村はやはりサクラの今後について、岸本「正直女らしい意地もみせる As one might expect, Nakamura asked about what was upcoming with Sakura 周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」 Kishimoto: "Honestly, from the standpoint of showing a female-like disposition, she hasn't been much of a heroine. You could even say that Hinata's more of a heroine than her. But since, as we know, Sakura is a heroine deep inside, she'll show that side of hers from now on." Michma12 (talk) 21:45, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

You obviously didn't read Chatte's explanation. I'll paste it here:

岸本「正直女らしい意地もみせる周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われているがやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」

Kishimoto answered:

I've heard (it's been said) that Sakura doesn't come across as a heroine or that Hinata is more of a heroine than Sakura, even though Sakura is a straightforward and determined woman; but Sakura has a heroic side to her and it will start showing from now on.

周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」 Strictly referring to the raw you posted (the two lines): 言われている is the passive voice of 言う ("to say") 周りから means "from [the people] around" (assuming it's 'people' because only people can say things)

Therefore, 周りから...言われている would be "I've been told by the people around me [that...]" If Kishi himself would want to say something, there'd be no need to use the verb 言う [[<<Chatte, I think you meant 言われて>]] in the first place, he could just go ahead and say what he has to say. The second line is Kishi's actual opinion. It begins with a が, which is a conjunction used to place two things into opposition in this case (it amounts to "but" in English). He then goes on to talk about Sakura's inner heroine and how we'll be seeing more of that. '''

This is backed up by, obviously, Japanese grammar, whereas you are simply copying and pasting the false info we already knew. Even if you paste it here a hundred more times, it will not change the fact that it's mistranslated.

I suggest taking down the trivia part regarding this before the validity of that interview is confirmed. --我是红云 (talk) 04:37, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

So the japanese are mistranslating their own words? That doesn't make much sense. Cuz this translation was verified and done by a neutral party member of native japanese origin because it got out of hand with NaruSaku and NaruHina fans, along with viewing other sources other than written translations. If it needs to be changed it should be changed. However, you're gonna wanna take it up with the admins first. --Michma12 (talk) 09:35, June 12, 2013 (UTC)-

No one said the Japanese are mistranslating their words... I wonder how neutral that part is since I checked it and double checked-it with a Japanese native itself, besides the professional translators.

Also, even in the chinese raws, it says basically the same thing.

说实话,从展现女性柔情角度看,小樱不像个女主角。你或许会说雏田更像个女主角。但是我要说,小樱是更深层面的女主角。今后,小樱将更多展现她的自我。

Translated as:

"To be honest, if judged by tenderness, Sakura is not much of a heroine. You might say Hinata is more of a heroine, BUT I say Sakura is a heroine of a deeper level. from now on, Sakura'll prove herself more"

If we go and analyze the literary story-structure, it fits. Not to mention from the latest chapters.

“因为小樱是女一号,今后我会更多地去表现她的性情和内心,即便很多人在叫‘雏田!雏田!’”(笑…..)

Tanslated as:

"Since Sakura is the female lead, i will show more of her personality and inner side. Although everyone is all "Hinata! Hinata" (Laughs .....)

So, we have two raws that say the same thing. Sakura is the heroine/female lead of the story and Kishi never implied that Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura. Tenderness is not all that makes a heroine. So, I think we should either take that trivia out, or modify it with the proper translation and meaning as this has been circulating over the internet for too long and has damaged Sakura's status as a heroine for a long time now. And it needs to stop. Thank you!--Chatte (talk) 10:50, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Also, can we agree that now she can be updated with the chakra transfer technique? Thank you!--Chatte (talk) 11:48, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

There's a discussion on that up above. This is a different matter.--Michma12 (talk) 20:52, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Also Sakura's status as a heroine wasn't that great to begin with and was already damaged even before this occurred. I'm not saying she isn't a heroine, just that even after the interview Kishimto said he still has a hard time seeing Sakura as the heroine and making Sakura look like a heroine despite his attempts to make her look like one. --Michma12 (talk) 20:58, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Didn't we just establish that Kishi had never said that? It's becoming more and more obvious that you are disregarding almost everything we said, every proofs we gave. If he'd had said anything like that, would you be so kind as to provide us with the raw of that interview? We need evidences, not some claiming statements. Also, saying that "despite his attempts" yadda yadda is nothing short of insulting his ability to develope a female character. Think about it.

Since her "status as a heroine wasn't that great to begin with and was damaged even before this occured", why not regain her image as the main female lead? A part of her "damaged image" is the consequence of the mistranslation. The false information circulating around the internet is causing alot of misunderstanding. People around the world put their trust into this wiki, so we need to provide them with the correct information regarding every characters of the series. Therefore, by taking down/editting the trivia, we are also doing justice for Sakura's character.

Please, be less biased. And about the trivia, somebody please do Sakura a favor and take it down until everything's solved --我是红云 (talk) 02:53, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Will you get off your high horse about that me insulting Kishimoto's ability crap? I never said it, he did and I'll find you the proof he did. I've been told that so many times that it's become annoying. I know for a fact that Chatte is a NaruSaku fan, and is obsessive about Sakura. Don't believe me look it up on the internet.

There's a whole bunch of stuff on her and her love for Sakura to the point that one can even consider it an obsession. Also i wasn't talking about this interview. I was referring to the fact that even before this interview and even after the interview, months or so I can't remember Kishimoto has a hard time making Sakura look like a heroine. He even stated he's not that good at making good female roles for people like Sakura. However, he has gotten a lot better, I'm not disputing that.--Michma12 (talk) 11:17, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

What? Are you for real? I've just lost all the understanding I had for your arguments. You seriously think that if Chatte is a NaruSaku fan and, better, a Sakura fan, it demolishes her arguments? I think that she is capable of being objective, like you should be. Man, you can't argue with Japanese grammar.
You said you weren't talking about this interview. Why the heck not? We are talking about that interview too that is probably misleading people.
`Freedom Wall` said it better than me beneath. And I will give you(not particularly YOU) all the proof you want if you still want to ignore Chatte's. Let's wait for some admins or something. VanillaSky109.100.202.96 (talk) 14:36, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

So this is how you want to bring me down, so to speak, for being an "obsessed" Sakura fan? At least I have proof to back up my statements, unlike you who... surprisingly, change your statements and your arguments when you've been proved otherwise. Just because I am a Sakura/NS fan makes me wrong or what? Cause I don't understand. And no need to look me up as I have personally gave my links to show the back-up claims. This is ridiculous, really. The level of immaturity you display is amazing me.

And even if I am be a Sakura/NS fan, surprise to you, others here agreed with me, though they might not be Sakura fans or NS fans. This has nothing to do with preferences, it has to do with facts, which, you must get straight.

And accusing me of being a fan of Sakura when you clearly seem a Hinata fan...explain me exactly how does that help your cause? Really now.

And about Sakura's status as a heroine...let's not go there because as you said, this isn't a place to debate, it's a place to share/clear information. And the information I provided is clear. Kishimoto stated that his heroine is Sakura, not Hinata and never said Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura. Period!--Chatte (talk) 12:16, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Michma12, I agree with a Chatte. Your argument is quite flawed. Sakura's reputation was already damaged - okay, conceded. But that doesn't bring any relevance to your case. The fact is that right NOW, Sakura's importance as a character is being degraded. What you're saying is basically, it was damaged before, so it should be alright for it to be damaged now. As a wiki, we are supposed to display neutral information without any bias to a certain character. So as a result, legitimate proof and evidence has to be brought up as to why Sakura's reputation as a heroine is degraded. I mean no offense, but please do so. Previous users and admins may have already done so, but since the argument has been brought uo again, it's better to re-present the sources to end it. --Freedom Wall (talk) 12:26, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding, Freedom Wall!--Chatte (talk) 12:56, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

I have agree to agree with Chatte and Freedom Wall too i've been reading about half of this entire conversation and Chatte has a very good point.Yes it's true that sakura didn't have much of a heroine role in Part 1 and did just kinda get in the way.But now she has more of a heroine role in Part 2.There has been alot of talk about sakura {a little to much if you ask me} and it's true that sakuras reputation has been damaged a bit but were trying to fix that.I myself am a NaruSaku fan but that does not influence my opinion or judgement.So Michama 12 you need to chill and control yourself and i mean no offense but your acting like someone in elementry school.This wiki is to provide new info about characters and also make pre-existing things better.Im behind Chatte and Freedom wall with their claims and completly agree with what they say and it's not because im a NaruSaku fan it's because i agree with what they say.74.89.213.43 (talk) 20:40, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Do any of you know how to read or are you simply blind? In one of my postings here I said that if it needs to be changed then it should be changed. Also to Chatte did I ever say you were wrong because you're a NaruSaku fan? No i didn't. I like Sakura, don't go saying I don't. I'm trying to be neutral here. Sakura's reputation is damaged, I know that but that ever say that it should remain that way? Did ever say it? No! Also it's Michma12 not Michama 12, I've noticing that you get Chatte's name right. Don't know if it's accidentally or on purpose but please get it right.

Now I'm open to suggestions. Given that I know Sakura's the heroine of the series, I acknowledged that a long time ago, years ago just to clarify. However, I also know for a fact that some of what I've said is true. Kishimoto never intended to have a heroine like Sakura, not bashing or anything it's the truth. He attributed this to the fact that he has a very hard time when it comes to lead feminine roles. Even after this was said he mentioned a few times he has a hard time making Sakura look like a heroine. Some of the stuff he intended for her never occurred or occurred in a way that have the opposite effect. Now bare with me now. This does not mean Sakura isn't a heroine, she is the series heroine still. You also have to acknowledge the fact that Sakura's reputation as a heroine isn't damaged solely because of us. Kishimoto needs to take responsibility as well.

Now will this be better: "Despite being the heroine of the series, Kishimoto never intended Sakura to become one. Attributing this to his difficulties when it comes to lead feminine roles, even mentioning a few times he has a hard time making Sakura look like a heroine. However, in the 2010 interview Kishimoto stated Sakura would be showing a more heroine side from then on.

Any suggestions?--Michma12 (talk) 21:07, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, come on, we should really cut lose with that. You don't have to say it directly, but imply it, as you already did. But it's ok, that doesn't affect me. As for the interview you keep saying it's interview, it's not. What you talk about is Kishi's description in the character book I keep telling you about. Here's the picture, even. tumblrmhzazehszi1ryx9ge.jpg

So, what Kishi actually said is that hard to draw a female character, as zou can see and that he has his own way of portraying his heroine. I think we've solved that too. It's his heroine, the way he wants it, not the way the fandom wants it. However the fact that he mentioned the isn't that good with drawing a female character, has nothing to do with the heroine status. Hope we are clear with this one too. Thank you!--Chatte (talk) 21:21, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Chatte. This is a wikia, so many people who read this trusts the information without a second thought. In this case, it's creating hate for Sakura that shouldn't necessarily be there. There really shouldn't be a debate about this. Facts are facts, after all, and Chatte has proved her points. If there is any doubt, all we need to do is find the original, right?

Until then, can we take the debated statements in Sakura trivia down?

Also, Michma12, we are not blind. You didn't explicitly say Chatte was wrong because she supports NaruSaku, but you definitely implied it. Why else would you even bring it up, and say for us to search her NaruSaku love on the internet? Has nothing to do with this matter. --TheRavenblue (talk) 21:48, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly you may not have meant to say that Chatte was wrong but in a way you did say she was wrong.With all this arguing over sakura it just puts her in a bad light that shouldn't even exist.In any case your just bringing up arguments that have no real meaning behind it and like i said already you need to chill.Whiteraven1 (talk) 23:34, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

By the Light, what exactly is going on here?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 10:23, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
My eyes can see only darkness 0_0 this arguing makes me like Sakura even less and less. I think they are providing a translation in which Kishimoto says she is the main heroine, while on wiki we incorrectly state otherwise or something?--Elveonora (talk) 10:25, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
Basically, this random anon showed up and decided to accuse us of not using the RAW in our translation of Kishimoto's remarks on the status of Sakura as the series' heroine. Since then, several others have jumped in and accused this wiki (specifically the trivia note) to be the reason why fans dislike Sakura so much. Because, according to them (you can seriously look above and read all of this), we're bias against Sakura. Both claims are ludicrous, as this wiki always confirms translations with the RAWS, therefore, a random user that pops up out of nowhere has less credibility. As to the second argument, the notion that this wiki, and specifically that trivia bullet, has anything to do with the fans of the series having a problem with Sakura is laughable at best, and completely absurd at most. Furthermore, this site only caters to the English speaking fans, and Naruto is printed in several languages. So, yeah, that suggestion is out the window. There is no bias going on here, the site has always reported the facts to the best of our knowledge and abilities. Therefore, unless anyone else sees any reason otherwise, I think this conversation should be over with. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 00:15, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
If we're voting, I'm in favour of doing away with the trivia point on both character's article.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 00:33, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

It should be removed.--Reliops (talk) 19:25, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

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