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Earth Release

I was just rereading some older chapters and after sai's ink clone got stabbed by orochimaru sai was seen hiding in the ground. could this be earth release: hiding like a mole? Munchvtec (talk) 12:47, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Someone brought this up year ago. The thing is, the ground wasn't shown very well to deduce if he used it or not--Elveonora (talk) 13:03, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

but could it be listed as presumed sense we have that on some articles? Munchvtec (talk) 13:05, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

It could be that he just dug a hole like Naruto did, but both in the manga and anime, he comes out the ground without using his arms...so it really looks like he's a user. Maybe he never got listed because he wasn't added as a user in the databook which covered Deidara, who did it before and Tobi, who did it after Sai's meeting with Orochimaru....Norleon (talk) 13:13, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe he wasnt listed as a user because there are multiple jutsu that let you do this. But anyways it should be added. Munchvtec (talk) 13:16, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

I would like to have some more opinions first. Norleon (talk) 13:21, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

ok. Munchvtec (talk) 13:23, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Possible. Looking back at the old discussion, one user brought up that it is entirely possible to actually dig a hole and not use a jutsu for it. So there is that.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:29, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

how did he have enough time to did a hole that big with his hands sense he has nothing else. also, thats why it would be listed as presumed. why would he need to dig a hole anyways he could have just used his fancy ink body flicker jutsu to hide. Munchvtec (talk) 13:32, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

How does a ninja have enough time to cut a log perfectly for a substitution? Jutsu are weird.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:35, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
Soooo I guess he does not get listed? Norleon (talk) 13:36, September 8, 2014 (UTC)
For now, I would say no. But that's just my opinion.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:42, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

ok and btw i don't they cut the wood, they transport it to there current location/switch places with it. Munchvtec (talk) 17:12, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

I just re-read the same chapter. At first I thought Sai was simply phasing through the dirt, but after a closer look, it shows clearly that the earth shifted. I don't think Sai dug the hole with his hands, I think the only time that's ever happened, it stated as such. I think a "Presumed" tag would be appropriate if nothing else.--Reliops (talk) 19:02, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

does the new data book confirm that he has earth release or not? Munchvtec (talk) 13:15, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

It does I believe.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 13:16, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

ah so i was correct lel. Munchvtec (talk) 13:19, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

can i have a link to the page where all the data book scans are. i can't find it. Munchvtec (talk) 13:20, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Tokubetsu Jōnin

I guess he is one now because Root doesn't exist anymore? Can anyone confirm this? Norleon (talk) 13:55, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

he is no Tokubetsu Jōnin but something else. can anybody please find out? I cant read the databook by myself.Wongo2 (talk) 00:59, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
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