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== Distinguish shadow clone from the original? ==
 
   
What the heck? Where was this ability shown?[[User:Undominanthybrid|Undominanthybrid]] ([[User talk:Undominanthybrid|talk]]) 18:06, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
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== Shinju, Kaguya, and Madara ==
   
there's a reference --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:21, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
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Is their eye confirmed to be a Rinnengan? It is only called a Sharingan in Kaguya's case, and it hasn't shown any Rinnengan ability. It is similar to Sasuke's Rinnengan, but they are not the same eye apparently. [[User:Patsoumas1995|Patsoumas1995]] ([[User talk:Patsoumas1995|talk]]) 01:11, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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: I've tried to argue this before, because you're absolutely right, but its failed. No point in fighting what they simply won't accept. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Sasuke's Rinnegan (Purple).svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 01:19, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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Actually, wait. Sasuke says that the Rinnengan genjutsu (Mugen Tsukuyomi) most likely can be dispelled by another Rinnengan. So, it seems to be a Rinnengan & a Sharingan at the same time. [[User:Patsoumas1995|Patsoumas1995]] ([[User talk:Patsoumas1995|talk]]) 01:29, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:You're a little late on that, but you're right. Sasuke called his eye Rinnegan, he called the MT a genjutsu cast by a Rinnegan, Madara was the caster and had the same eye as Kaguya = Kaguya's eye is a Rinnegan and, according to Hagoromo, has the power of the Sharingan. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:59, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::For some reason, people assume that just because x character say one thing, but y character another, only either must be true rather than both, like Mr. Foxie here. Because of that, it turns into a pointless game of semantics. I take Sasuke and Black Zetsu's words over Hagoromo. For example in latest chapter he changed Ten-Tails into Nine-Tails in a middle of sentence. So it wouldn't surprise me if "power of Sharingan" referred to the red Rinnegan in his vocabulary--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:55, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Yeah let's....'''not''' have this start up again and end this here. Patsoumas1995's question was answered.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:09, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
Though it's not true. Nagato was fooled many times by shadow clones during Konoha's invasion, and he had 6 bodies seeing the action. Madara's distinction is his own merit, unless it's made clear that Nagato being unable to do so was due to his own ineptitude with the Rinnegan. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:22, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
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==Confirmed Sasuke Rinnegan Is Purple==
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It appears the official color cover has shown that sasuke's Rinnegan is in fact purple [[User:HagoromoOtsutsuki|Hagoromo Otsutsuki]]''''' [[File:rinnegan.svg|18px|link=User talk:HagoromoOtsutsuki]] 12:03, July 25, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki
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:Source? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:13, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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I just said Color Cover because color kage made the eye red for the image that is listed for sasuke rinnegan. [[User:HagoromoOtsutsuki|Hagoromo Otsutsuki]]''''' [[File:rinnegan.svg|18px|link=User talk:HagoromoOtsutsuki]] 12:20, July 25, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki
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:He's asking if you have proof, like an image or something.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:24, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::Because if it's the same thing we saw three days ago, then you really dropped the ball.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:24, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
Now you mention it... might have something to do with intelligence and experience. Not to mention Madara has also Sharingan, so his perception is trained to notice such a difference. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Naruto makes 3 shadow clones, each of them has the same amount of chakra right? Maybe he saw the one has less chakra than the original would have or something, or Nagato was dumb--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 01:16, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
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:What? Color Kage didn't color the image in the article. Also, I'm asking for the color cover you're talking about. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 12:51, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::if this http://books.shueisha.co.jp/CGI/search/syousai_put.cgi?isbn_cd=978-4-08-880151-3 source is valid then no volume release until 4th August and they don`t have a cover. [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 13:14, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Yep, I already checked that site. We usually get the cover earlier than the volume, so it should show up in the next few days. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:40, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::::I bet the OP is talking about the WSJ cover rather than volume cover--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:57, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
Why Madara knew isn't important, unless the manga itself brings it up. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:24, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
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I was actually saying that before Color Kage a naruto manga coloring site made it red without any further truth the new cover that came out showed Sasuke Rinnegan is intact purple and not red because it make since its not like Kaguya stated "The shinju eye?" Or anything since madara did say "Rinnegan". [[User:HagoromoOtsutsuki|Hagoromo Otsutsuki]]''''' [[File:rinnegan.svg|18px|link=User talk:HagoromoOtsutsuki]] 14:07, July 30, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki
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== Edo Tensei Rinnegan is grey. ==
   
== Question? ==
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Can we add an inauthentic rinnegan form? In the anime and manga is appears grey rather than purple and because it has different limitations that the others do not I think it warrants it's own form. [[User:Oddjobhat|Oddjobhat]] ([[User talk:Oddjobhat|talk]]) 10:59, July 30, 2014 (UTC)oddjobhat
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:It isn't grey, it's just darkened. Like the eyes of every revived person the scalarae is darkened, but since the Rinnegan takes up the whole eye, it gives the illusion of a different colour. For example, on episode 299 when Nagato is pierced with the Totsuka blade his eyes lighten before he's inevitably sealed. It's worth mentioning in trivia I guess, but it isn't actually another form. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 11:24, July 30, 2014 (UTC)
   
In the latest chapter, [[Madara Uchiha]] said that he gave his eyes to [[Nagato]]. Way later on, [[Obito Uchiha]] took an eye from Nagato. "Obito implants one of Nagato's Rinnegan in his left socket, replacing the Sharingan he sacrificed." (Thats straight from the article). Should we say that Obito ''really'' got one of Madaras eyes instead? [[User:Zelwolf|Zelwolf]] ([[User talk:Zelwolf|talk]]) 02:18, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf
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== Wrong colour ==
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The colouring of WSJ covers are not done by the author, Sasuke's Rinnegan is incorrect. It's red, as per the colouring done by MK in the special colouring for 676. The colouring on the cover is distinctly not Kishimoto's, as he uses softer tones as opposed to those sharp, slightly saturated ones. {{Unsigned|Pesa123456789}}
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:It's purple on the volume too--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:13, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::We already had this discussion, it was decided that the WSJ covers were right. Also, please sign your posts. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:14, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Keep in mind that Rasengan is yellow on the volume covers and in all colored appearances in the manga, while it is blue on the WSJ covers, so don't pretend like anyone knows what the official colors of anything is. Kishi doesn't even seem to know himself. We won't know what color they're sticking with until we see the anime. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 22:59, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::The mangaka colors the cover, as I already said. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:12, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, Kishi screwed with blue Rasengan. I think he did that because it's more commonly known as blue because of the games and anime, so he just went with that. Unless Minato's chakra made it blue or something. For the Rinnegan, definitely purple even if you ignore the WSJ cover. On the volume if you look closely, purple can be seen where Sasuke's eye is obscured.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:08, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::To add to that, I somewhere read that the yellow colour of Naruto's chakra was an ''example'' by Jiraiya. He could've said black or purple or whatever, but chose yellow. This means that chakra isn't actually yellow, it was just used to explain the mechanis of Naruto's chakra... I could be wrong, though. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 13:29, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Not necessary. If we wanted to be really technical about it, we'd have to call them Izuna's eyes, because Madara took Izuna's MS after his went blind. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:38, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Nah, it was Naruto telling Jiraiya that his chakra is yellow. Also Ashura's chakra is yellow.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:48, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:Ah, yes. Alright, then it was Naruto who used colours as a metaphor. That doesn't mean that chakra actually ''is'' yellow. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:14, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::But it is http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140407050103/naruto/images/9/9a/Chapter671.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120921194600/naruto/images/1/17/Kyubi_Chakra_Mode.png --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:28, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::But none of those are normal chakras. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:46, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Yes, but we are discussing Naruto's I thought :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:50, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::::The colour of chakra displayed on this diagram is definitely yellow, at least http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090507021139/naruto/images/2/28/Chakra_Moulding_Diagram_%28Normal%29.svg. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 14:54, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Whoa. I didn't even think about that. Crazy man! It's probably best to keep it at saying he took Nagatos eye. I kind forgot that they were Izunas eyes! [[User:Zelwolf|Zelwolf]] ([[User talk:Zelwolf|talk]]) 02:52, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf
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Every person and non-person alike has individually colored chakra. But we were talking about Naruto, whose is yellow. That's why Foxie question if the WSJ cover was done by Kishi, since on WSJ covers Rasengan is colored blue. But Kishi himself colored Rasengan blue on one of the volume covers with Minato, so shrugs--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:57, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Uchiha/Senju ==
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: Yes but on volume 52's cover, it is yellow. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:06, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::Elve, it was a metaphor. His chakra is not really yellow. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:28, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Don't take this as an insult, but are you colorblind perchance?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:34, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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::::No, I know that his chakra was depicted as yellow. But it was also depicted as blue. So it doesn't have a set color, saying that it's yellow because of Naruto's metaphor is wrong. That's what I want to say. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:04, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
Having the powers of both the Uchiha and the senju has been stated as a precondition to awakening the rinnegan. So should we not include it on this page as well as the pages of both clans that this kekkei genkai originates/belongs to the clans... the same way the Sharingan is a Uchiha kekkei genkai and Wood release is a Senju kekkei genkai.{{unsigned|46.17.233.102}}
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Let's just agree to disagree that chakra is screwy and they can't decide the colour of it to save their lives, m'kay? Besides, I seem to recall this was a Rinnegan discussion... --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 20:07, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
:It doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the Sage. Remerging the bloodlines simply awakens the Rinnegan. It is worth a mention though, I suppose.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:58, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
: Though I kinda appreciate your reasoning, but it makes me think... If the rinnegan is not an Uchiha or Senju kekkei genkai even though having the powers of both clans is a preçondition, then does that mean Izanagi is not an uchiha kinjutsu ability since the complete izanagi requires both Senju and Uchiha powers i.e. ''Remerging the bloodlines''. However it is clearly labelled an Uchiha kinjutsu. which would make Rinnegan an Uchiha kekkei genkai even though Remerging the bloodlines is necessary. However I would also add the rinnegan as a Senju kekkei genkai because awakening the rinnegan is impossible without senju powers however it is possible to use an incomplete Izanagi without senju power so it is not necessary to add Izanagi as a Senju kinjutsu. Its fine if you see this differently but I think it should be somehow mentioned on both clans pages as well as this page. By the way how do i sign my comments {{unsigned|46.17.233.102}}
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It's been depicted yellow in all cases but the one blue Rasengan (excluding WSJ covers) and since it's yellow in 95% of cases, him stating it to be so can't be taken as metaphor. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130610064914/naruto/images/2/2e/Volume_52_Cover.png this is the only blue one http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131127150222/naruto/images/3/3b/Volume_67.png
::Put four ~ at the end of your post. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:29, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
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His chakra modes are yellow, Ashura's chakra is yellow, which he has, so as you can see, yellow is correct because of prevalence. And right, Rinnegan topic :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:20, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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: What I don't get is where it is every implied what Naruto reference was a metaphor. Reading the chapter and watching the episode, he never says anything like "'''''Let's say''' my chakra was yellow''", he literally says his chakra is yellow. His Rasengan has consistently been colored yellow in color pages depicting it, and Kishi modeled Naruto off of Goku, a Super Saiyan, whose energy is... wait for it... yellow. But none of that matters. My point in saying that is, saying Sasuke's Rinnegan is purple because of two instances of it being colored so is a crock of bullshit, because it was also colored red twice, just like the Rasengan is colored blue on ''one'' volume cover and on most WSJ covers, while being colored yellow in most volume covers and in all color pages. The point of even bringing it up was to highlight the fact that no one here, no not even Seel, knows the official color. I highly doubt even Kishi knows, given how inconsistent he's been with it. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 06:49, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
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::This is entirely different. Sasuke's eye has been coloured red in twice in one place, the digital coloured comics. We now that that they are done by a separate team, and we know they have a history of getting things wrong when there isn't an existing colouring from another official source. The other two sources show it as purple and are both from Kishimoto's team. The volume cover gives us a glimpse, while the WSJ cover gives us a clear view, and is confirmed to be done by Kishomoto himself. To my knowledge those are the only two coloured instances to come from Kishi's team and both show it as purple.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 08:12, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:::In the manga, Naruto says that if he had to put it in colors, his normal chakra would be yellow and his fox chakra red. That's a metaphor.
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:::Also, Kishi has not been inconsistent with the Rinnegan's color. In both instances, it's depicted as purple. The red color comes from an outside source, even considering this source/color to be as official as Kishimoto's own coloring is plain stupid. We should only use those colorations if there is no other coloration available. But now there is, so case closed. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 08:16, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
Having senju dna is not a requirement as itachi explained in chapter 587 in the manga. What you are suggesting is that all the Uchiha members in history, which were quite alot all had their hands on senju dna. --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 19:52, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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==Number of Tomoe==
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I realize this was a topic that was talked about repeatedly, and some had decided to wait until Volume 70 was released, but now that it has been released, it has not altered the number of tomoe that we saw in the regular release. What's the general consensus on Sasuke's Rinnegan now, and the fact that Madara's third eye went from having 9 tomoe to 6 tomoe after Infinite Tsukuyomi was cast? [[User:Demonic Phoenix|D.Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Demonic Phoenix|talk]]) 15:51, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:Sasuke's Rinnegan always had six tomoe except in the first panel it was shown. Madara's forehead Rinnegan is just like Kaguya's – with nine tomoe.--[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 15:59, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
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::And he says there's still 9 in the first panel--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:40, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Transplanted rinnegan active at all times? ==
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:::Technically, not 9, but there are tomoe in the third circle in that close up panel of Sasuke's left eye in chapter 673 in the Volume release. @ JOA20: In chapter 678, after he comes back down to the ground, Madara's forehead Rinnegan has 6 tomoe, not 9. This is unchanged in the Volume release. I can even upload the images to a separate image-sharing site if you need the proof. [[User:Demonic Phoenix|D.Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Demonic Phoenix|talk]]) 17:49, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
Hmm is that really the case? Nagato didn't have the rinnegan the moment it was transplanted; he awakened it when is parents died. I'd also like the note a transplanted sharingan doesn't stay constant all the time; kakashi is able to switch between normal and mangekyo. --[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|1337 B33FC4K3]] ([[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|talk]]) 06:00, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
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Kaguya's also had 6 at one point. It was a drawing mistake, Madara and Kaguya's forehead Rinnegan are red with 9 tomoe, Sasuke's Rinnegan is purple with 6. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 17:56, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
:It is not. It has been removed.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:47, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Adding an "Acquisition" section ==
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The focus shots are the most important ones. Every time Sasuke's Rinnegan was focused on it has six tomoe, and the same goes for the forehead Rinnegan with its nine... though I will admit Kishi was very consistent with his mistake on Madara's forehead Rinnegan after casting the Infinite Tsukuyomi. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 18:07, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
I'll add a section in teh article which details obtaining the Rinnegan. If you like it, it can stay. If you don't like it, feel free to remove it. [[User:Xfing|Xfing]] ([[User talk:Xfing|talk]]) 11:05, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
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== Zetsu ==
:What excactly do you mean by "obtaining the Rinnegan"?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:23, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:: obtaining Sharingan -> obtaining Mangekyō Sharingan -> obtaining EMS -> obtaining Senju cells -> obtaining Rinnegan [[User:Xfing|Xfing]] ([[User talk:Xfing|talk]]) 11:32, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I've already removed it. Not only was it interjected with wrong information, everything there was mentioned already. The second paragraph that spoke about rearing Rinnegan babies was utterly unnecessary. Leave some things to people's imagination.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:35, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Maintaining Susanoo has nothing to do with Rinnegan ==
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Why Zetsu is a listed as a Rinnegan wielder? Only Black Zetsu wielded the Rinnegan at a certain time, while a White Zetsu clone brought the other Rinnegan to Madara. Listing BZ is enough.--[[User:MERCURIOUS|MERCURIOUS]] ([[User talk:MERCURIOUS|talk]]) 19:36, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
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:Probably because, despite us having a separate page for it, Black Zetsu still has its own tab on the Zetsu page. Maybe it's because a White Zetsu delivered the Rinnegan to Madara or something... --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 20:04, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
Maintaining Susanoo has nothing to do with the Rinnegan. It serves no purpose in the topic. Itachi maintained Susanoo without even the Sharingan.[[User:NoJutsu|NoJutsu]] ([[User talk:NoJutsu|talk]]) 02:55, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Itachi used Susanoo with (near) blinded Mangekyo Sharingan, as his eyes were not shaded in the manga as they usually would be, similar to how his left eye was depicted after using Izanami. Madara using Susanoo with his Rinnegan active is the only time the technique has had a confirmed non-Mangekyo use, so it might be worth mentioning.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 03:31, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 

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Is their eye confirmed to be a Rinnengan? It is only called a Sharingan in Kaguya's case, and it hasn't shown any Rinnengan ability. It is similar to Sasuke's Rinnengan, but they are not the same eye apparently. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 01:11, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

I've tried to argue this before, because you're absolutely right, but its failed. No point in fighting what they simply won't accept. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 20px 01:19, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, wait. Sasuke says that the Rinnengan genjutsu (Mugen Tsukuyomi) most likely can be dispelled by another Rinnengan. So, it seems to be a Rinnengan & a Sharingan at the same time. Patsoumas1995 (talk) 01:29, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

You're a little late on that, but you're right. Sasuke called his eye Rinnegan, he called the MT a genjutsu cast by a Rinnegan, Madara was the caster and had the same eye as Kaguya = Kaguya's eye is a Rinnegan and, according to Hagoromo, has the power of the Sharingan. • Seelentau 愛 08:59, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
For some reason, people assume that just because x character say one thing, but y character another, only either must be true rather than both, like Mr. Foxie here. Because of that, it turns into a pointless game of semantics. I take Sasuke and Black Zetsu's words over Hagoromo. For example in latest chapter he changed Ten-Tails into Nine-Tails in a middle of sentence. So it wouldn't surprise me if "power of Sharingan" referred to the red Rinnegan in his vocabulary--Elveonora (talk) 15:55, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah let's....not have this start up again and end this here. Patsoumas1995's question was answered.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 16:09, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Confirmed Sasuke Rinnegan Is PurpleEdit

It appears the official color cover has shown that sasuke's Rinnegan is in fact purple Hagoromo Otsutsuki Rinnegan 12:03, July 25, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki

Source? • Seelentau 愛 12:13, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

I just said Color Cover because color kage made the eye red for the image that is listed for sasuke rinnegan. Hagoromo Otsutsuki Rinnegan 12:20, July 25, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki

He's asking if you have proof, like an image or something.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 12:24, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Because if it's the same thing we saw three days ago, then you really dropped the ball.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 12:24, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
What? Color Kage didn't color the image in the article. Also, I'm asking for the color cover you're talking about. • Seelentau 愛 12:51, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
if this http://books.shueisha.co.jp/CGI/search/syousai_put.cgi?isbn_cd=978-4-08-880151-3 source is valid then no volume release until 4th August and they don`t have a cover. Rage gtx (talk) 13:14, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Yep, I already checked that site. We usually get the cover earlier than the volume, so it should show up in the next few days. • Seelentau 愛 14:40, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
I bet the OP is talking about the WSJ cover rather than volume cover--Elveonora (talk) 15:57, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

I was actually saying that before Color Kage a naruto manga coloring site made it red without any further truth the new cover that came out showed Sasuke Rinnegan is intact purple and not red because it make since its not like Kaguya stated "The shinju eye?" Or anything since madara did say "Rinnegan". Hagoromo Otsutsuki Rinnegan 14:07, July 30, 2014 (UTC)HagoromoOtsutsuki

Edo Tensei Rinnegan is grey. Edit

Can we add an inauthentic rinnegan form? In the anime and manga is appears grey rather than purple and because it has different limitations that the others do not I think it warrants it's own form. Oddjobhat (talk) 10:59, July 30, 2014 (UTC)oddjobhat

It isn't grey, it's just darkened. Like the eyes of every revived person the scalarae is darkened, but since the Rinnegan takes up the whole eye, it gives the illusion of a different colour. For example, on episode 299 when Nagato is pierced with the Totsuka blade his eyes lighten before he's inevitably sealed. It's worth mentioning in trivia I guess, but it isn't actually another form. --Atrix471 (talk) 11:24, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Wrong colour Edit

The colouring of WSJ covers are not done by the author, Sasuke's Rinnegan is incorrect. It's red, as per the colouring done by MK in the special colouring for 676. The colouring on the cover is distinctly not Kishimoto's, as he uses softer tones as opposed to those sharp, slightly saturated ones. —This unsigned comment was made by Pesa123456789 (talkcontribs) .

It's purple on the volume too--Elveonora (talk) 22:13, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
We already had this discussion, it was decided that the WSJ covers were right. Also, please sign your posts. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 22:14, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
Keep in mind that Rasengan is yellow on the volume covers and in all colored appearances in the manga, while it is blue on the WSJ covers, so don't pretend like anyone knows what the official colors of anything is. Kishi doesn't even seem to know himself. We won't know what color they're sticking with until we see the anime. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 22:59, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
The mangaka colors the cover, as I already said. • Seelentau 愛 08:12, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, Kishi screwed with blue Rasengan. I think he did that because it's more commonly known as blue because of the games and anime, so he just went with that. Unless Minato's chakra made it blue or something. For the Rinnegan, definitely purple even if you ignore the WSJ cover. On the volume if you look closely, purple can be seen where Sasuke's eye is obscured.--Elveonora (talk) 13:08, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
To add to that, I somewhere read that the yellow colour of Naruto's chakra was an example by Jiraiya. He could've said black or purple or whatever, but chose yellow. This means that chakra isn't actually yellow, it was just used to explain the mechanis of Naruto's chakra... I could be wrong, though. • Seelentau 愛 13:29, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Nah, it was Naruto telling Jiraiya that his chakra is yellow. Also Ashura's chakra is yellow.--Elveonora (talk) 13:48, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Alright, then it was Naruto who used colours as a metaphor. That doesn't mean that chakra actually is yellow. • Seelentau 愛 14:14, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
But it is http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140407050103/naruto/images/9/9a/Chapter671.png http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120921194600/naruto/images/1/17/Kyubi_Chakra_Mode.png --Elveonora (talk) 14:28, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
But none of those are normal chakras. • Seelentau 愛 14:46, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but we are discussing Naruto's I thought :P--Elveonora (talk) 14:50, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
The colour of chakra displayed on this diagram is definitely yellow, at least http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090507021139/naruto/images/2/28/Chakra_Moulding_Diagram_%28Normal%29.svg. --Atrix471 (talk) 14:54, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Every person and non-person alike has individually colored chakra. But we were talking about Naruto, whose is yellow. That's why Foxie question if the WSJ cover was done by Kishi, since on WSJ covers Rasengan is colored blue. But Kishi himself colored Rasengan blue on one of the volume covers with Minato, so shrugs--Elveonora (talk) 14:57, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Yes but on volume 52's cover, it is yellow. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 18:06, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Elve, it was a metaphor. His chakra is not really yellow. • Seelentau 愛 18:28, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Don't take this as an insult, but are you colorblind perchance?--Elveonora (talk) 19:34, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
No, I know that his chakra was depicted as yellow. But it was also depicted as blue. So it doesn't have a set color, saying that it's yellow because of Naruto's metaphor is wrong. That's what I want to say. • Seelentau 愛 20:04, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Let's just agree to disagree that chakra is screwy and they can't decide the colour of it to save their lives, m'kay? Besides, I seem to recall this was a Rinnegan discussion... --Atrix471 (talk) 20:07, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

It's been depicted yellow in all cases but the one blue Rasengan (excluding WSJ covers) and since it's yellow in 95% of cases, him stating it to be so can't be taken as metaphor. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130610064914/naruto/images/2/2e/Volume_52_Cover.png this is the only blue one http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131127150222/naruto/images/3/3b/Volume_67.png His chakra modes are yellow, Ashura's chakra is yellow, which he has, so as you can see, yellow is correct because of prevalence. And right, Rinnegan topic :P--Elveonora (talk) 20:20, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

What I don't get is where it is every implied what Naruto reference was a metaphor. Reading the chapter and watching the episode, he never says anything like "Let's say my chakra was yellow", he literally says his chakra is yellow. His Rasengan has consistently been colored yellow in color pages depicting it, and Kishi modeled Naruto off of Goku, a Super Saiyan, whose energy is... wait for it... yellow. But none of that matters. My point in saying that is, saying Sasuke's Rinnegan is purple because of two instances of it being colored so is a crock of bullshit, because it was also colored red twice, just like the Rasengan is colored blue on one volume cover and on most WSJ covers, while being colored yellow in most volume covers and in all color pages. The point of even bringing it up was to highlight the fact that no one here, no not even Seel, knows the official color. I highly doubt even Kishi knows, given how inconsistent he's been with it. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 06:49, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
This is entirely different. Sasuke's eye has been coloured red in twice in one place, the digital coloured comics. We now that that they are done by a separate team, and we know they have a history of getting things wrong when there isn't an existing colouring from another official source. The other two sources show it as purple and are both from Kishimoto's team. The volume cover gives us a glimpse, while the WSJ cover gives us a clear view, and is confirmed to be done by Kishomoto himself. To my knowledge those are the only two coloured instances to come from Kishi's team and both show it as purple.--Soul reaper (talk) 08:12, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
In the manga, Naruto says that if he had to put it in colors, his normal chakra would be yellow and his fox chakra red. That's a metaphor.
Also, Kishi has not been inconsistent with the Rinnegan's color. In both instances, it's depicted as purple. The red color comes from an outside source, even considering this source/color to be as official as Kishimoto's own coloring is plain stupid. We should only use those colorations if there is no other coloration available. But now there is, so case closed. • Seelentau 愛 08:16, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Number of TomoeEdit

I realize this was a topic that was talked about repeatedly, and some had decided to wait until Volume 70 was released, but now that it has been released, it has not altered the number of tomoe that we saw in the regular release. What's the general consensus on Sasuke's Rinnegan now, and the fact that Madara's third eye went from having 9 tomoe to 6 tomoe after Infinite Tsukuyomi was cast? D.Phoenix (talk) 15:51, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Rinnegan always had six tomoe except in the first panel it was shown. Madara's forehead Rinnegan is just like Kaguya's – with nine tomoe.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 15:59, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
And he says there's still 9 in the first panel--Elveonora (talk) 16:40, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
Technically, not 9, but there are tomoe in the third circle in that close up panel of Sasuke's left eye in chapter 673 in the Volume release. @ JOA20: In chapter 678, after he comes back down to the ground, Madara's forehead Rinnegan has 6 tomoe, not 9. This is unchanged in the Volume release. I can even upload the images to a separate image-sharing site if you need the proof. D.Phoenix (talk) 17:49, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Kaguya's also had 6 at one point. It was a drawing mistake, Madara and Kaguya's forehead Rinnegan are red with 9 tomoe, Sasuke's Rinnegan is purple with 6. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 17:56, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

The focus shots are the most important ones. Every time Sasuke's Rinnegan was focused on it has six tomoe, and the same goes for the forehead Rinnegan with its nine... though I will admit Kishi was very consistent with his mistake on Madara's forehead Rinnegan after casting the Infinite Tsukuyomi. --Atrix471 (talk) 18:07, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Zetsu Edit

Why Zetsu is a listed as a Rinnegan wielder? Only Black Zetsu wielded the Rinnegan at a certain time, while a White Zetsu clone brought the other Rinnegan to Madara. Listing BZ is enough.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 19:36, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Probably because, despite us having a separate page for it, Black Zetsu still has its own tab on the Zetsu page. Maybe it's because a White Zetsu delivered the Rinnegan to Madara or something... --Atrix471 (talk) 20:04, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

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