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==why do not you put it==
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== Power ==
   
Because those are already listed in the jutsu infobox, there's no need nor point in listing them twice. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
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Ok so I remember seeing somewhere in an episode of Naruto Shippuden of the Rasengan's color changing and it was explained a few moments later that that can create it's power. Is this true?--[[User:SQR24|SQR24]] ([[User talk:SQR24|talk]]) 03:06, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
   
== 2 jutsus ==
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Can you rephrase it please?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:37, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
   
you should also put Sage Art: Great Ball Rasengan and Super Great Ball Rasengan in the list --[[Special:Contributions/94.183.158.12|94.183.158.12]] ([[User talk:94.183.158.12|talk]]) 17:27, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
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May have been referring to [[Wind Release: Rasengan]]. --[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 15:25, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
:I take it you are talking about the ''derived jutsu'' list. That list is only for techniques that are ''directly'' derived from the the featured technique. Both the [[Sage Art: Great Ball Rasengan]] and the [[Super Great Ball Rasengan]] are directly derived from the [[Great Ball Rasengan]]. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 18:46, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
oh your right i apologize
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== super odama rasengan ==
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which rasengan is this and how is it different then the others? asking because its in volume 59 but couldn't find it on here, kinda tired so probably over looked it on here.--[[User:J spencer93|J spencer93]] ([[User talk:J spencer93|talk]]) 05:36, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
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:[[Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan]] [[Special:Contributions/68.101.81.24|68.101.81.24]] ([[User talk:68.101.81.24|talk]]) 01:46, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
   
== damage ==
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== Disadvantages ==
   
can rasengan potentially kill someone or damage them severely? --[[Special:Contributions/75.3.231.166|75.3.231.166]] ([[User talk:75.3.231.166|talk]]) 06:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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I know someone will delete this if I don't explain it here first. In the anime rasengan has exploded twice. Once in Naruto episode 144 at about 7 minutes from the end and 16 minutes from the start when he tried to hit the [[Legendary Stupid Brothers]] with it. And again in Naruto Shippuden episode 234 at about 8:17 from the end and about 15:24 from the start when [[Konohamaru]] tried to hit [[Temari]] with it. So no one delete it.([[User:Evilpuppy|Evilpuppy]] ([[User talk:Evilpuppy|talk]]) 03:24, May 6, 2013 (UTC))
   
Why do you think the jutsu is A-ranked? --[[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color:gray">(_)LTR/-\ F()RCE</span>]] 02:27, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
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What Studio Pierrot does with Rasengan is unbelievable, they parodied it enough as is. From him throwing it in Part I. to it not dealing any fatal damage when used on feminine or otherwise strange looking filler villains and as of late giant rasenshuriken which was clearly big wind release: rasengan, look at chidori/raiki too. But long story short, I don't think the "disadvantages" sub-section is necessary--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:15, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
   
:Perhaps because it was explicitly said so? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 11:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
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Fair enough ([[User:Evilpuppy|Evilpuppy]] ([[User talk:Evilpuppy|talk]]) 04:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC))
   
== Rasengan variations ==
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== Parent vs Related ==
   
why does there need to be a page for all of the different variation of rasengan? they are all basically the same move and most of them only get used a few times and often only in one fight. [[Special:Contributions/81.98.252.151|81.98.252.151]] ([[User talk:81.98.252.151|talk]]) 19:55, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
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Minato based this technique off of the Tailed beast ball so shouldn't it be a parent value? ([[User:Evilpuppy|Evilpuppy]] ([[User talk:Evilpuppy|talk]]) 05:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC))
   
:Because it's there.</deep> '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 21:57, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
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:A parent technique is for when a technique is directly from another. For example, Shadow Clone Technique is the parent of Multiple Shadow Clones Technique. The Rasengan was designed off the principle of the Tailed Beast Ball, but not from it.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
   
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== Finally! ==
   
== Adding a derived ==
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One-handed Rasengan (no clones or KCM) is now canon? --[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 06:53, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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:Yes, I feel with ya, but that belongs elsewhere ^_--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:51, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
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::He might have done it during invasion of Pain though. I don't recall clones in Gamabunta's mouth when he finished the Animal Path. He couldn't make more clones, otherwise he'd disrupt the ones at Myobokuzan. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:28, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Keep in mind though that Naruto was in Sage Mode when he performed it. [[User:Blackchaos27|Blackchaos27]] ([[User talk:Blackchaos27|talk]]) 01:51, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Same thing that happened in this week's chapter, and senjutsu chakra is harder to make than regular chakra. Balancing three energies instead of two. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:57, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Naruto hadn't exceeded his limit of Kage Bunshin when he finished off Animal Realm. As for this week's chapter, there was a short window of opportunity in which Naruto could have quickly made and dispersed a Kage Bunshin to form the Rasengan we see already completed on the following page. Basically, we have to '''see''' Naruto making a Rasengan with a single hand, not holding/attacking with an already completed one. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 07:47, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Why is it so hard to believe? It was a regular Rasengan. His chakra control must have improved greatly, even if an assumption, it's logical:
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* Sage Mode training, balance of 3 energies
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* Kurama's chakra no longer disrupt his own
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* Perfect chakra transfer technique etc. it's really not unbelievable. Minato can do it as well and Jiraiya even could form two Rasengans at once with 1 hand each--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:14, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
   
Shouldn't we add Sage Art: Super Great Ball Rasengan to the derived list? [[Special:Contributions/69.198.244.26|69.198.244.26]] ([[User talk:69.198.244.26|talk]]) 16:45, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
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Because it is an assumption that has been made numerous times in the past along with claims of improved chakra control, and proved false when Naruto finally made the statement of requiring a Kage Bunshin in Chapter 519. Before and after that point, there have been so many instances of fans hastily assuming that Naruto's finally able to form a Rasengan with a single hand based on sudden cuts to panels like this; panels of Naruto holding, or attacking with a '''completed''' Rasengan. This doesn't change anything. Wait until we see the guy '''forming''' one with a single hand in base, or Sage Mode before passing it off as canon. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 12:19, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
:The list only shows up until "grandchild" jutsu, so to speak. That one is further down at the genealogical tree. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== 1 Handed Rasengan should be added to the Trivia. ==
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This is defiantly new, since Naruto needed a shadow clone to make a Rasengan all the way up to the final battle with the Deva Path. One clone made a Rasengan while the other threw him. [[User:Omega64|Omega64]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 13:07, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
   
I stopped watching Naruto Shippuden a long time ago around before Episode 40 was out.
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So when exactly will there be enough evidence in the manga that he can use it with one hand? It feels like some ppl are waiting for Naruto to say, "Yes, I can finally use Rasengan with one hand!" or something. --[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 14:45, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
now i'm on:
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:I don't think anyone is denying he just performed it with one hand, its just we are having trouble finding out when he finally accomplished it, if Sage Mode played a part, and if he can do it in base form now to. We just need to see more is all. [[User:Omega64|Omega64]] ([[User talk:Omega64|talk]]) 14:49, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Naruto Shippuden
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::Er... '''I''' just denied it, two replies above. :P Naruto has only used it with one hand during his Jinchuuriki transformations, in which the Kyuubi chakra handles the work his additional hand(s) would have under normal circumstances. In ''"base"'', and Sage Mode, all claims of his ability to do so have been based on examples no different from what we saw in this week's chapter: cuts to panels of Naruto holding or attacking with a '''completed''' Rasengan. —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 15:17, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
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and I found Naruto use a 1 handed rasengan in some illusion and almost hit Kiba, but Kakashi held him back.
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... Well. The word ''"selective"'' comes to mind for some reason. You guys really can't wait until we see him making one? —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 04:18, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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:Actually, if you look at the page before he's holding the Rasengan, it appears he is still getting ready to go into Sage Mode. I'm pretty sure he did a 1-hand Rasengan on the next page. Even Sasuke (who's beside him) seems surprised to see him holding it. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 13:33, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
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::All we can see is his grimace, prior to two panels in which Obito has enough time to wrap up his trash-talking, and Tobirama takes note of Naruto's Sage Mode—more than enough time for him to have quickly whipped up and dispersed a Kage Bunshin to assist with the Rasengan's Keitai Henka. Sasuke('''and''' Minato) don't take notice of Naruto until he speaks up. Like I said before, this is ''no different'' from all the other prior instances in which readers have assumed that Naruto's made a Rasengan with a single hand, without the assistance of the Kyuubi's chakra. Do we really need another 519 to debunk all of this after the impression's already been made? Or do we simply wait until we get a clear view of Naruto actually forming a Rasengan with a single hand to definitively detail it as canon?
   
== Three different versions of the same attack ==
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::If you guys have become this leisurely with your policy on speculation, I'd be more than happy to start campaigning for the dōryoku of Sasuke's right Mangekyō Sharingan to be changed again, based on the evidence that's accumulated over the years. :P —「[[User Talk:SaiST|'''SaiST''']]」<sup>[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/SaiST]]</sup> 16:24, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
   
These three should be mentioned in the article. We have Konohamaru's golf-ball sized version; Naruto's, Jiraiya's, and Kakashi's baseball sized version; and Minato's larger volleyball sized version.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 23:10, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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We can wait I guess... if he indeed knows how to make it single-handely, he sure will do again in the future--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:25, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
:Konohamru's isn't perfected, Naruto needs help from a clone, and Minato's is just a bit bigger, I don't think that means they are different versions.--[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 23:18, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Nothing in the manga indicates that Konohamaru's isn't perfected, Deva 27. He combined for rotation and power and made a smaller version of the Rasengan. Naruto doesn't ALWAYS need the help of a clone *again, few times Naruto has done it with one hand*, he just uses it since its faster. And Minato's being bigger also means its more powerful. There are three versions of the technique that we've seen in the manga. Tiny (Konohmaru's), Standard (Naruto's, Kakashi's, and Jiraiya's), and Large (Minato's). --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 23:24, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
::;The boy's a genin with well i'm going to say regular or average chakra for his age (maybe more being a Sarutobi and being able to perform 2 A ranked jutsu in succession and what not). You expected his rasengan to be the size of seasoned users? Two of which were noted to have an immense chakra reserves? There was nothing wrong/weird about his rasengan...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 01:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Naruto said he would show Konohamaru how to make it bigger. Again, the manga has shown different versions of the same attack, first Konohamaru's tiny one, the standard one, and then Minato's larger version. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::How to make a '''bigger one''' he was more than likey talking about Oodama Rasengan. The manga has shown different versions to the same attack yes but they all used the '''rasengan''' so it's the same attack. The size of the rasengan is proportionate to the amount of chakra you can put into it. There was no "difference" in any of the attacks except for that. --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 01:25, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::The size of the Rasengan also shows how powerful the attack is. The larger the Rasengan, the more powerful it is.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:27, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::Except this isn't change like from Rasengan to Chōōdama Rasegan. The difference is barely noticeable. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:51, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
The first time Naruto had a successful rasengan may have been a different version. It was alot more powerful than the one Jiraya used to show Naruto. Can anyone explain? [[User:YellowPhoenix|YellowPhoenix]] ([[User talk:YellowPhoenix|talk]]) 02:39, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Obviously Jiraiya wasn't trying to kill the man, and naruto put his all into his.
 
 
== Underwater Rasengan Formation ==
 
 
In the Land of Tea filler arc during part I, Naruto used shadow clones, each had a Rasengan, and put they're hands in a circle to make a whirlpool. I think that needs to be put as an Anime Only variation [[User:Fangzntalonz|Your mine! Fireball Jutsu!]] ([[User talk:Fangzntalonz|talk]]) 18:58, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
:He was spinning the water with his chakra.--[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 19:00, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Colour ==
 
 
On the cover of Volume 52, I believe, Rasengan was shown to be white-ish in colour. [[Special:Contributions/24.45.20.86|24.45.20.86]] ([[User talk:24.45.20.86|talk]]) 21:58, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Its colored yellow.--[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 22:06, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Yellow Rasengan picture ==
 
 
Do we have any real pictures of the yellow Rasengan?? [[User:Fangzntalonz|Fangzntalonz]] ([[User talk:Fangzntalonz|talk]]) 02:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:[[:File:Volume 52 Cover.png|Example]]. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 02:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== ??? ==
 
 
Why is Cho Kasseiken on the derived list?
 
[[Special:Contributions/98.200.252.109|98.200.252.109]] ([[User talk:98.200.252.109|talk]]) 16:17, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:That jutsu is stuck in the wiki's memory, and regrettably appears in a couple of places that it should not. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 16:24, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Ah, okay.
 
[[Special:Contributions/98.200.252.109|98.200.252.109]] ([[User talk:98.200.252.109|talk]]) 16:38, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Blue Impact???! ==
 
 
Sorry, but I played Ultimate Ninja 3, and there's no way that Naruto formed a Rasengan in his hand while punching the enemy!!! It's just chakra gathered in this hand, not in a spiral sphere. And besides, Naruto needs a CLONE!! And the Green BEast Naruto only uses taijutsu!! Why is such an attack put in the derived jutsu?[[Special:Contributions/41.17.216.229|41.17.216.229]] ([[User talk:41.17.216.229|talk]]) 10:03, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
The video games like to stretch it a bit. Just look at the ougis(specials/ultimates) for Un1-Un5.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 16:47, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Why? ==
 
 
Why is '''''every single stupid video game variant''''' in the derived list? Really? Most of them don't even make sense.
 
[[Special:Contributions/98.200.125.177|98.200.125.177]] ([[User talk:98.200.125.177|talk]]) 15:54, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Thus why its only possible in video games.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 16:46, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I know that. ''My question was''(and is), '''"Why are they all there?"'''
 
[[Special:Contributions/98.200.125.177|98.200.125.177]] ([[User talk:98.200.125.177|talk]]) 13:21, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Parent Jutsu? ==
 
 
How is the Menacing Ball it's parent jutsu? It says that the Rasengan was based on the Menacing Ball (and in my perspective) like [[Iron Sand]] is based on the One-Tailed Shukaku's [[Shield of Sand|automatic sand defense]], so wouldn't you have to change that article to reflect that as well? [[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 00:36, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
:My thoughts exactly. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:05, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::there is a subtle difference, though. The Rasengan is a specific technique based off another specific technique. Iron Sand is a whole collection of techniques based off the general abilities of a jinchūriki. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 01:08, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::I still don't think it's enough to call it the Rasengan's parent jutsu. Definitely something for the related jutsu field though. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:16, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::You're probably right, especially considering we don't know the exact story behind it. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 01:21, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== One-handed Rasengan? ==
 
 
At what point in, ''Naruto Shippūden Movie 3: Inheritors of the Will of Fire'', does Naruto create a Rasengan without the aid of his clones? {{unsigned|Questionaredude}}
 
:I think it's when he fights Gaara, though he might have done that when he fights Hiruko as well. It's not exactly one-handed, he uses both hands, but he definitely doesn't use a shadow clone. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:50, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Ok, thanks. I mis-worded that a bit.[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 03:19, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Trivia about the rasengan's second color ==
 
 
I think that should be noted in the trivia section that, according to the Kishimoto's comments in the second artbook, he has not yet officially decided the color of the rasengan and this is the reason beacuse in many colored illustrations by Kishimoto, the rasengan (and the rasenshuriken) don't presents a color blue but a yellow/orange (and this particular is more evident now that it is also visible on the cover of volume 52).
 
 
It's only my supposition but probably this indecision/difference arises from the fact that, in the version of the manga, Naruto tell Jiraya that he feel the color of his chakra to be yellow, when instead the anime version has changed the dialogue replacing the word yellow with blue (and maybe influencing the color of the rasengan if in Kishimoto's point of view, he wanted that its color was equal to that of Naruto's chakra).--[[User:JK88|JK88]] ([[User talk:JK88|talk]]) 12:09, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Rasengan Inspiration ==
 
 
I have thought of something. How could Minato create Rasengan by observing the tailed beast ball when he only saw it once, at a day of his death. Even if he invented it at the day when he saw the TBB (Which is impossible since he mastered it in 3 years) there's no way he could tell Jiraya about it. Could it be that Minato fought the 9 tails before the incident when fighting Madara? --[[User:Raging Blast|&lt;&lt;-Rage-&gt;&gt;]] ([[User talk:Raging Blast|talk]]) 20:28, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Who said he didn't see Kushina use it before? She had great control over the fox. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 20:30, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Who said he didn't see any of the other eight tailed beasts use a Tailed Beast Ball? —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 20:33, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::She had great control, but I don't believe that a person like she would ever fully transform into fox. We also know that Nine tails isn't the guy who would let you transform and use such a jutsu. What I believe is that the Rasengan isn't similar to TBB because Minato observed it, it could be that it is just a coincidence. --[[User:Raging Blast|&lt;&lt;-Rage-&gt;&gt;]] ([[User talk:Raging Blast|talk]]) 20:35, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::Also, by the time of Minato, every tailed beast was sealed as far as I know. --[[User:Raging Blast|&lt;&lt;-Rage-&gt;&gt;]] ([[User talk:Raging Blast|talk]]) 20:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::Sealed where? By Akatsuki? That wasn't until several years later. Into a jinchuriki? All the more reason why he'd see it in action; ninja wars and whatnot. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 20:38, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Were there any Jinjurickis that could totally control their beasts at the time? Sure, Killer Bee could be one, but I highly doubt. --[[User:Raging Blast|&lt;&lt;-Rage-&gt;&gt;]] ([[User talk:Raging Blast|talk]]) 20:40, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Killer B, Yagura, possibly Yugito or her predecessor. You don't have to have complete control over your tailed beast to be able to transform into it and used the Tailed Beast Ball. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 20:45, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Nine-tails Influence ==
 
 
Should we mention that due to Naruto Sealing off the nine-tails chakra into a separate part of his body, he currently cannot access any of his tailed forms, thus like Flapping Chidori, Demon Fox Rasengan is presumed unusable? [[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 21:16, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Not really, the chakra is still in Naruto, and he has better access to it than he had before. We saw him trying to transform into the Nine-Tails, the reason he can't isn't related to the chakra, but with the cooperation with the Nine-Tails. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:34, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
::So what about saying, "Due to the Nine-tails ceasing to cooperate with Naruto, the Demon Fox Rasengan is presumed unusable"?[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 21:41, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::That kind of statement is unnecessary. To add that would be to add that Kakuzu can't use elemental jutsu he doesn't have the hearts for anymore, that Sasori can't use the abilities of puppets he doesn't have anymore, that A cannot play pattycake with hands he doesn't have anymore. The wiki covers any point in the series, not just the most recent material. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 02:27, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Literal English ==
 
"Spiraling Sphere" or "Spiralling Sphere"?--[[User:LeafShinobi|LeafShinobi]] ([[User talk:LeafShinobi|talk]]) 19:18, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Spiralling, of course. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 19:25, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Rasengan rotation directions ==
 
 
It has been noted that rasengan is more efective if it is spined in one direction but as it seems it is spined in multi directions.Why is this?
 
--[[User:Madman361|Madman361]] ([[User talk:Madman361|talk]]) 22:52, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Movie Only? ==
 
 
Should there be a "(Movie Only)" listing under the derived jutsus like Seven-Colored Rasengan or Tornado Rasengan?
 
*And on a side note: Would putting a "(Game Only)" listing be overbearing? [[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 23:51, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Movie and game jutsu children aren't suppose to display on an anime/manga jutsu, when those movie/game pages are purged it will look like it should. [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 23:58, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Picture==
 
Just throwing this out there... thats an image from part II of a jutsu from part I. - [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 01:53, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Bump. [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 23:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 
::You want it changed? ''''' ~ [[User talk:Fmakck|Fmakck<sup>©</sup>]] ''''' <sup>([[User:Fmakck#Images I've Added|Images]] | [[Special:Contributions/Fmakck|contribs]])</sup> 23:48, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::That's the idea.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™☺]] 23:44, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== black "positive" and white "negative" ==
 
 
Its from the article. Is this a mistake?--[[Special:Contributions/78.172.100.205|78.172.100.205]] ([[User talk:78.172.100.205|talk]]) 21:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Nope, that's what the manga said. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Rasengan Shadow ==
 
 
Okay, I know this isn't really important, but like look at the shadow of the Rasengan (the one on the main Rasengan page with it in Naruto's hand)..it's in the shape of a...well, judge for yourself. ~KuroRai~ 00:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
This page is here is for suggestions not 6th grade humor, ok? [[User:Cda081799|Cda081799]] ([[User talk:Cda081799|talk]]) 06:26, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Planetary Rasengan ==
 
 
Is named twice in the derived jutsu list.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 03:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Rasengan? ==
 
 
Is this a plothole? If Naruto's shadow clones form the rasengan and the original merely provides chakra, and shadow clones transfer what they know to the original, shouldn't naruto have already learned how to do rasengan by himself?--[[User:GundamFun711|GundamFun711]] ([[User talk:GundamFun711|talk]]) 23:35, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
:No. He uses shadow clones or chakra arms to form a shell for the Rasengan and compress it.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 23:37, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
::And all the experience he earns from it is essentially making the Rasegan with more than one set of hands, which doesn't help him get better at making it with one hand. If he did the Multiple Shadow Clone training with each clone trying to make the Rasengan with one hand, then it might work. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:39, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I think he can make a Rasengan with his own 2 hands and outside of his power modes. But this way it's faster.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:48, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
No. If he had, that would have been something Kishi would have given a bit of focus on. Anyway, to answer the question, no it isn't a plot hole. All that the clones do is form the Rasengan the way that Naruto does it, thus the experience the provide is how to perform that method better. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 23:51, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Naruto simply doesn't have to aptitude to create the Rasengan with one hand, that much has been stated. Else I don't think he'd have taught Konohamaru how to do it with a clone.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 23:53, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
That's stupid plothole then ... he has enough chakra control to be the only human able to balance yin/yang/natural chakras thus first to master Sage Mode.
 
He is the one that completed Rasengan.
 
He can do and mantain combination transformation.
 
Looks like he can do some sealing techniques as well.
 
I just cant see how the main and overpowered character can't do a Rasengan in one hand or at least to perform it with 2 hands without shadow clones or power modes.
 
 
Are you sure he was never shown using Rasengan without help of shadow clones and power modes ?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:03, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Yes. With the exception of the futile attempts during his initial stages (vs Tsunade) there's no cannon media with him doing that.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 00:09, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I see, thanks. Then I will have to live with that he is weak T_T
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:13, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
First, we still have no confirmation that Yin and Yang actually refer to physical and mental energy rations. Second, what Naruto does to create Sage chakra is a change in the chakra's composition, he's not manipulating the chakra like one would in, say, medical ninjutsu. And just because Naruto is the only known true Sage, that doesn't mean he's the only one. Fukasaku says that the marks of true Sages are the eyes, how would he know that if no human had ever mastered Sage Mode before? Toads already have those eyes. There could have been others before him, who have died already. What Naruto did to Rasengan was to put another aspect of changing the nature of the chakra, that still doesn't have to do with what is known as chakra control. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:25, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
No offence but hope you are not being serious.[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090507021144/naruto/images/thumb/1/12/Chakra_Moulding_Diagram_%28Senjutsu%29.svg/394px-Chakra_Moulding_Diagram_%28Senjutsu%29.svg.png Not eyes, the pigment around eyes].--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:43, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I think the person's eyes themselves are also an indication. Also it was never said Naruto was the only Sage- Fukasaku said he bore the mark of a "true" Sage and said "compared to Jiraiya..." there were more than likely others that have walked the Path of a Sage (in this sense). I actually respect the fact that Naruto still cannot produce a Rasengan with one hand. It gives me a sense of familiarity- knowing where he's coming from and also remembering that he has no skill with stuff like that. Not because he's powerful is it going to mean that he's somehow improved his finesse with intricate skills like those.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 00:54, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Toads also have some pigmentation around the eyes, the marks around Shima and Fukasaku's eyes don't change when they're in Sage Mode, so to know that those are marks of a true Sage, other humans must have mastered Sage Mode in the past as well. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:03, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Well if the eyes itself are an indication, then Gamakichi is s Sage as well.
 
I remember Fukasaku stating the pigment around eyes are mark of a true sage.
 
And you are right Omni, looks that way.
 
 
 
About yin/yang stuff, I think there's nothing more to add.
 
Thinking that yin/yang and physical and mental/spiritual energies are 2 different things is silly since it was always referred to them as so.
 
The OP's point being is that Naruto used Rasengan dozens of times and that he still creates more and more powerful and complex versions.
 
The experience from Shadow Clones helped him to learn how to change chakra into wind nature.
 
After creating that many shadow clones in the series, he should be able to perform Rasengan already without their aid and outside of power-up.
 
So saying he can't is silly.
 
It was said his usage of Rasengan has surpassed the previous users, so thinking he can't do it like Jiraiya is weird.
 
Where was it stated that Sage Mode or Kyubi Mode helps him to make Rasengan with less arms ?
 
I think we have seen Naruto using normal Rasengan in Sage Mode without Shadow Clones, attributing it to him being in Sage Mode is stupid since it should be even more difficult for him with even more chakra control required.
 
 
I think him using shadow clones to create Rasengan is not due to him being unable to himself, but because its his style after that many years.
 
More arms = faster.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 01:26, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
This is becoming a forum, the original question was answered so lets move on.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 01:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Sage Art: Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan ==
 
 
Why' isn't Sage Art: Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan in the infobox? [[User:Ultimatex|Ultimatex]] ([[User talk:Ultimatex|talk]]) 23:53, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Because a technique infobox only shows up to "grandparent techniques". That one is derived from a "grandparent technique", so it doesn't show up. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:59, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Tornado Rasengan ==
 
Can the [[Tornado Rasengan]] added to the infobox.[[User:Ultimatex|Ultimatex]] ([[User talk:Ultimatex|talk]]) 12:30, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:No. Movie and game techniques do not show up as derived techniques in infoboxes of anime and manga technques and characters. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 13:30, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Name ==
 
 
Just curious, this has probably been brought up previously, but why is this page, along with Chidori, referred to by it's romanized name, and not the literal translation of the Kanji? I sort of get it for the Mangekyo jutsus (E.g. Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi) due to the Shinto references, but why are both Rasengan and Chidori referred to as such? Why should the pages not be called "Spiralling Sphere" and "One Thousand Birds"? Again, I'm sure this has been brought up at a previous point in time. --[[User:Chitalian8|Chitalian8]] 02:19, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Probably due to those names being used in the english versions of the anime and manga so they are more recognisable than the literal translation. [[User:TricksterKing|TricksterKing]] ([[User talk:TricksterKing|talk]]) 03:00, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Because they are most well known by just their Japanese names. Almost all translations never use their translated names.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 03:02, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
:^^ What he said. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleesheishun|My Wiki]]) 03:10, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
From a familiarity standpoint, I understand: People know what the Rasengan is more than they know what the Spiralling Sphere is. However, why should we not keep consistency with the rest of the Jutsu articles? I'm just trying to be consistent. [[User:Chitalian8|Chitalian]][[User talk:Chitalian8|8]] 14:08, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
They are simply just the exception to that rule. All the translations use the romanisation instead of the literal translation and they are essentially the signature techniques of the two foremost characters in the series. The bigger problem came along in trying to translate their derivative abilities. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 14:17, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==One handed rasengan revisited==
 
 
In the movie Blood Prison Naruto does the rasengan one handed if i'm not mistaken
 
--[[User:Mongrel Shadow|Mongrel Shadow]] ([[User talk:Mongrel Shadow|talk]]) 00:18, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:In that same movie, Naruto knew B, yet the Invasion of Pain apparently never happened and they aren't fighting a war. He was also apparently going to die with the greatest medical ninja in the world and her two pupils one foot away from him. He also managed to use the [[Hiding with Camouflage Technique]] without the cursed seal burning and have a shuriken and wire string even though they searched him. The movie has no bearing on the storyline whatsoever.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:35, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Kakashi's Chidori==
 
 
It says "Kakashi Hatake tried to add his lightning element to his Rasengan, but was unable to and explains that he created the Chidori and Lightning Cutter instead," maybe this is just my opinion, but didn't Kakashi just copy the Rasengan with Sharingan? If he did, that would mean he created Chiordi before he learnt the Rasengan which I think is what happened even if he didn't copy it.[[Special:Contributions/50.79.85.107|50.79.85.107]] ([[User talk:50.79.85.107|talk]]) 14:23, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Kakashi developed chidori before getting Sharingan --[[User:Salil dabholkar|Salil]] [[File:Uchiha Symbol.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Salil dabholkar|(talk)]] 14:31, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Minato taught Kakashi the Rasengan as far as I remember, but couldn't add a Chakra Nature so developed the Chidori. This was all before he got the Sharingan though. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 14:39, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::It was never really said how exactly Kakashi learnt the Rasengan but he was unable to finish he sensei's work and couldn't add his nature manipulation(s) to the Rasengan successfully.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:13, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Misspellings==
 
 
"Spiraling" does not have two "l's" in it, nor does stabilize have an extra "s." --[[User:Belial Edge|Belial Edge]] ([[User talk:Belial Edge|talk]]) 17:26, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
:This wiki uses British English, so yes they do.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:32, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Oh...nevermind. Sorry about that. --[[User:Belial Edge|Belial Edge]] ([[User talk:Belial Edge|talk]]) 07:28, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Super Ultimate Rasengan==
 
 
How come you don't have "Super Ultimate Rasengan" listed in the "Derived Jutsu" section? --[[User:Dethklok91|Dethklok91]] ([[User talk:Dethklok91|talk]]) 05:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Movie and video game techniques don't appear in those lists, unless the parent technique itself appears only in movie or game. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 12:21, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 

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Power Edit

Ok so I remember seeing somewhere in an episode of Naruto Shippuden of the Rasengan's color changing and it was explained a few moments later that that can create it's power. Is this true?--SQR24 (talk) 03:06, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Can you rephrase it please?--Elveonora (talk) 15:37, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

May have been referring to Wind Release: Rasengan. --Questionaredude (talk) 15:25, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

super odama rasengan Edit

which rasengan is this and how is it different then the others? asking because its in volume 59 but couldn't find it on here, kinda tired so probably over looked it on here.--J spencer93 (talk) 05:36, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan 68.101.81.24 (talk) 01:46, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Disadvantages Edit

I know someone will delete this if I don't explain it here first. In the anime rasengan has exploded twice. Once in Naruto episode 144 at about 7 minutes from the end and 16 minutes from the start when he tried to hit the Legendary Stupid Brothers with it. And again in Naruto Shippuden episode 234 at about 8:17 from the end and about 15:24 from the start when Konohamaru tried to hit Temari with it. So no one delete it.(Evilpuppy (talk) 03:24, May 6, 2013 (UTC))

What Studio Pierrot does with Rasengan is unbelievable, they parodied it enough as is. From him throwing it in Part I. to it not dealing any fatal damage when used on feminine or otherwise strange looking filler villains and as of late giant rasenshuriken which was clearly big wind release: rasengan, look at chidori/raiki too. But long story short, I don't think the "disadvantages" sub-section is necessary--Elveonora (talk) 10:15, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough (Evilpuppy (talk) 04:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC))

Parent vs Related Edit

Minato based this technique off of the Tailed beast ball so shouldn't it be a parent value? (Evilpuppy (talk) 05:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC))

A parent technique is for when a technique is directly from another. For example, Shadow Clone Technique is the parent of Multiple Shadow Clones Technique. The Rasengan was designed off the principle of the Tailed Beast Ball, but not from it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Finally! Edit

One-handed Rasengan (no clones or KCM) is now canon? --Questionaredude (talk) 06:53, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I feel with ya, but that belongs elsewhere ^_--Elveonora (talk) 10:51, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
He might have done it during invasion of Pain though. I don't recall clones in Gamabunta's mouth when he finished the Animal Path. He couldn't make more clones, otherwise he'd disrupt the ones at Myobokuzan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:28, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Keep in mind though that Naruto was in Sage Mode when he performed it. Blackchaos27 (talk) 01:51, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Same thing that happened in this week's chapter, and senjutsu chakra is harder to make than regular chakra. Balancing three energies instead of two. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:57, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Naruto hadn't exceeded his limit of Kage Bunshin when he finished off Animal Realm. As for this week's chapter, there was a short window of opportunity in which Naruto could have quickly made and dispersed a Kage Bunshin to form the Rasengan we see already completed on the following page. Basically, we have to see Naruto making a Rasengan with a single hand, not holding/attacking with an already completed one. —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 07:47, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Why is it so hard to believe? It was a regular Rasengan. His chakra control must have improved greatly, even if an assumption, it's logical:
  • Sage Mode training, balance of 3 energies
  • Kurama's chakra no longer disrupt his own
  • Perfect chakra transfer technique etc. it's really not unbelievable. Minato can do it as well and Jiraiya even could form two Rasengans at once with 1 hand each--Elveonora (talk) 11:14, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Because it is an assumption that has been made numerous times in the past along with claims of improved chakra control, and proved false when Naruto finally made the statement of requiring a Kage Bunshin in Chapter 519. Before and after that point, there have been so many instances of fans hastily assuming that Naruto's finally able to form a Rasengan with a single hand based on sudden cuts to panels like this; panels of Naruto holding, or attacking with a completed Rasengan. This doesn't change anything. Wait until we see the guy forming one with a single hand in base, or Sage Mode before passing it off as canon. —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 12:19, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

This is defiantly new, since Naruto needed a shadow clone to make a Rasengan all the way up to the final battle with the Deva Path. One clone made a Rasengan while the other threw him. Omega64 (talk) 13:07, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

So when exactly will there be enough evidence in the manga that he can use it with one hand? It feels like some ppl are waiting for Naruto to say, "Yes, I can finally use Rasengan with one hand!" or something. --Questionaredude (talk) 14:45, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is denying he just performed it with one hand, its just we are having trouble finding out when he finally accomplished it, if Sage Mode played a part, and if he can do it in base form now to. We just need to see more is all. Omega64 (talk) 14:49, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
Er... I just denied it, two replies above. :P Naruto has only used it with one hand during his Jinchuuriki transformations, in which the Kyuubi chakra handles the work his additional hand(s) would have under normal circumstances. In "base", and Sage Mode, all claims of his ability to do so have been based on examples no different from what we saw in this week's chapter: cuts to panels of Naruto holding or attacking with a completed Rasengan. —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 15:17, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

... Well. The word "selective" comes to mind for some reason. You guys really can't wait until we see him making one? —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 04:18, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, if you look at the page before he's holding the Rasengan, it appears he is still getting ready to go into Sage Mode. I'm pretty sure he did a 1-hand Rasengan on the next page. Even Sasuke (who's beside him) seems surprised to see him holding it. Joshbl56 13:33, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
All we can see is his grimace, prior to two panels in which Obito has enough time to wrap up his trash-talking, and Tobirama takes note of Naruto's Sage Mode—more than enough time for him to have quickly whipped up and dispersed a Kage Bunshin to assist with the Rasengan's Keitai Henka. Sasuke(and Minato) don't take notice of Naruto until he speaks up. Like I said before, this is no different from all the other prior instances in which readers have assumed that Naruto's made a Rasengan with a single hand, without the assistance of the Kyuubi's chakra. Do we really need another 519 to debunk all of this after the impression's already been made? Or do we simply wait until we get a clear view of Naruto actually forming a Rasengan with a single hand to definitively detail it as canon?
If you guys have become this leisurely with your policy on speculation, I'd be more than happy to start campaigning for the dōryoku of Sasuke's right Mangekyō Sharingan to be changed again, based on the evidence that's accumulated over the years. :P —「SaiSTMangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal) 16:24, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

We can wait I guess... if he indeed knows how to make it single-handely, he sure will do again in the future--Elveonora (talk) 16:25, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

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