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Revival...?

I didin't understand very well that thing about "revival"...Orochimaru "injects" some part of his consciousness into the ones he bites with his juinjutsu and then that "piece of his mind" takes his form with the flesh of the host ?--177.33.246.101 (talk) 23:20, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

You know as much as we do ... likely Voldemort style--Elveonora (talk) 23:27, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

just random question

At least in the anime (I don't remember it in the manga) when Oro was about to suck Sasuke's neck to give him the Curse Mark, his face appeared all fucked up, any idea as of why?--Elveonora (talk) 21:46, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

When he was still posing as Shiore and his face-mask was ruined?--NinjaSheik 21:55, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

like this and this--Elveonora (talk) 22:04, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't really remember the fight all too well, but wasn't those images just part of something Sasuke imagined. Or was it in one of his dreams? Don't remember.--NinjaSheik 22:08, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

It appeared a second before Sasuke's neck got bitten by Oro--Elveonora (talk) 22:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Then it has to be his imagination in middle of fear, seeing as Oro as a real demon coming after him. Probably added in the anime for dramatic effect, if you ask me.--NinjaSheik 22:18, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

It's exactly for that reason Sheik. The face seems modelled after an oni as well (I don't know if you guys follow Avatar) but a yokai that is said to steal the faces of people. Nothing more.--Cerez365^™(talk) 11:56, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks for answer.--Elveonora (talk) 14:57, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

His height?

Sorry, but why is orochimaru's height decreased? in part 1 it's 179,4 cm and in part 2 it's decreased to 172 cm? are you sure it's not wrong? it's really strange that someone's height is shortened... eh, sorry. the weight too?

virgo dandela --180.254.117.108 (talk) 12:56, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

They would've changed because he switched bodies at the end of part 1. TricksterKing (talk) 13:02, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

The creepy chick body was taller that the guy body.--Elveonora (talk) 13:52, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

sealed by totsuka...

Some articles (Kusanagi Sword included) state that Orochimaru had been sealed by Itachi before being revived by Sasuke. That's incorrect, he had escaped such fate and got burnt by Amaterasu.--Elveonora (talk) 16:57, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Which is speculation. We know he got stabbed by sealing sword. We don't know what the hell that snake was. It could be as you said, it could be foreshadowing that there was a way he could be brought back. We don't know anything about the snake. We do know what Itachi's sword can do.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 17:03, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

When it comes to Orochimaru's life it's all up in the air. It is in fact true that we have no idea what those snakes would have gone on to do, but people speculate that he would have been revived through one of them which is not unbelievable, still, as it is now, he was sealed by the sword.--Cerez365^™(talk) 17:05, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation is saying he got sealed, as later manga chapters and logic disprove such. There would be no reason to draw panels with snakes escaping and getting killed if it were just random/generic snakes/summons. It was obviously Orochimaru escaping the sealing, for further detail http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Elveonora#Re:_Kusanagi_-_Oro_edit and http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:TheUltimate3#Kusanagi_-_Oro_edit --Elveonora (talk) 17:13, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

   1) Yes. 
   2) Speculation on my part, but it explains why he didn't need to use the Releasing Method to pop out of the seal. 
   3) Indeed. Because Sealed in permanent genjutsu = deader than dead. 
   4) And Orochimaru had his consciousness alive and well in Anko's seal. How else would he be aware of everything that Anko is aware of in respects to the war if he was chillin in dead world all this time? 
   5) And you know this how? 
   6) Kishimoto doesn't make many things obvious. It seems obvious to you because it helps reach a conclusion that makes sense to you. When you are forced to look at things objectively, you are left with more questions than answers, hence it's not certain

• at least on something you agree with me
• it was a different case, as Anko had Orochimaru's chakra/consciousness sealed in her, while Sasuke Orochimaru's soul, the latter broke free because Sasuke got short on chakra so there was nothing to hold Orochimaru back
• again, there's only one soul and it's obviously walking around in a body thus was not sealed anywhere... proofs:

1. if it was possible for a soul to be hosted in 2 different bodies (Tobi-Madara originally thought) they wouldn't disprove the masked man being who is claiming to be automatically, thus it's not possible.
2. Anko was branded with Cursed Seal before Part I. and Orochimaru that came out of her knows everything that have happened so far, thus it's not like that one don't remember getting pwned by Sasuke and Itachi

• His soul went into Anko's Cursed Seal likely after he got burnt
• "Naruto, I will never meet Jiraiya sensei again as I will be molested by Orochimaru in a drunken dream world" "Naruto, I won't meet up with Minato because I'm not really your mother, just chakra" Naruto is stupid, those things were said to make him feel better and not sad
• as since it's not obvious to you, that's why it's being discussed now

--Elveonora (talk) 17:25, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for triple-post, but stating "seemingly" sealed fixes ALL the issues and it's a good compromise for both sides--Elveonora (talk) 17:29, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

I do enjoy numbered responses.

2) Different and the same. It's odd. Orochimaru is odd.

3) Except we know Tobi was in fact lying about being Madara.

4) Orochimaru is aware of Tobi's war. He was sealed before that war started. He said he knew what was going on because he could see it from Anko's seal. Not sure what you are getting at about him for whatever reason not remembering his defeat but /shrug.

5) Or it was always there. See how this works yet?

6) And this comes from...?

7) It's not obvious. Like I said, you believe it's obvious because it reaches a conclusion you but together. There are many things it could have meant.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 17:36, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone tell me Orochimaru defected form the village before or after Minato's dead ?

Does anyone tell me Orochimaru defected form the village before or after Minato's dead ?