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Well.

This image. I know it's not the best, but there was no alternative that showed the scene a bit closer. Should we use this or should I search for one where he's talking to Naruto before dying? Norleon (talk) 13:54, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Bump. Norleon (talk) 08:57, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
I think I replaced it already, at least in this article, with a close up of his face on Naruto's shoulder. That image is still being used in the arc page though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:59, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

I made a post about it before but

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Seelentau/NewTimeline#I.27m_having_a_problem_regarding_age.

For those too lazy to read the link's contents, here are the important parts.

"The age given in the databook is the one they were at the last chapter covered by the databook.

Those of Naruto's generation who were 15 when they first appeared in part 2 are Choji, Kiba, Sasuke, Shikamaru, Ino, Naruto and Hinata. Basically everyone who was shown in the timeframe of 01/01-04/18 and was born after 04/18 was a year younger than in the third databook. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:05, May 8, 2014 (UTC)"

"So right now my mind is fuzzy, but that means Tenten, Neji, Sai and Lee were 17 when they were first shown in Shippuden?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 02:21, May 13, 2014 (UTC)"

"No, why? The Gaara arc happened around 01/19/16. Tenten, who's the oldest of those four, is born on 03/09/1. So she was 16 years and ~10 months old when she appeared in Shippuden. • Seelentau 愛 議 09:09, May 13, 2014 (UTC)"

We all know Databook 3 covers that moment Sasuke awakens his Mangekyo and that is the last chapter for Databook 3 and at that point team gai is 17. Team Gai is 16 for 3-4 months in the beginning of Shippuden. Math and given facts and evidence from all the databooks and manga prove this, since Seel put all of that in the timeline. It is not speculation because there are no made up things in the timeline. So I should change Neji, Tenten and Lee, with the rest of the Konoha 12 who haven't been changed yet, to the ages they should be, first I need more input on this subject. Seel, feel free to chime in at any time. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 15:50, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Aren't they already changed?--Elveonora (talk) 15:54, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

No, Tenten, Lee, and Neji were not changed yet. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:10, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

It says 18 in Neji's and Tenten's and Lee is still 17, that's correct, so they are updated--Elveonora (talk) 16:21, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

It's supposed to say 16-18 for Neji and Tenten, and 16-17 for Lee. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:23, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, that. Well, add it then.--Elveonora (talk) 16:29, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

I will add it then, but Ten Tails, Omni, and the others need to read this so they know I'm not making things up. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:33, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Another thing is that Shino would of still been 15 either way when he was introduced in part 2. Because it was only 3 days after Chiyo died that Naruto met up with Team Kurenai again, I should make sure that is on his page also ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:02, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

pardon my ignorance, but...

Why is he listed as uncle to the children? He was Hinata's cousin, not brother.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 11:47, November 7, 2014 (UTC)


In Asian culture, children of cousins refer to the corresponding parents as uncle/aunt. -- Kinho Kinholeung (talk) 12:12, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but we aren't Asian culture here. Boruto and Himawari are to Neji cousins-once-removed, unless I'm wrong.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:20, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
While I cannot accurately state if Kinholeung is right or not, the series we document is of Asian culture. So yeahs. Also I was pretty sure Neji was in fact listed as cousins. Nope. Listed as Uncle. Alrighty then.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:26, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
Sigh, this stuff is complicated. Anyway, since Snapper is either sleeping or occupied by real life, would you be so nice as to answer what I asked on his talkpage?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:32, November 7, 2014 (UTC)


"Cousin: the most classificatory term; the children of uncles or aunts. One can further distinguish cousins by degrees of collaterality and by generation. Two persons of the same generation who share a grandparent count as "first cousins" (one degree of collaterality); if they share a great-grandparent they count as "second cousins" (two degrees of collaterality) and so on. If two persons share an ancestor, one as a grandchild and the other as a great-grandchild of that individual, then the two descendants class as "first cousins once removed" (removed by one generation); if they shared ancestor figures as the grandparent of one individual and the great-great-grandparent of the other, the individuals class as "first cousins twice removed" (removed by two generations), and so on. Similarly, if they shared ancestor figures as the great-grandparent of one person and the great-great-grandparent of the other, the individuals class as "second cousins once removed". Hence one can refer to a "third cousin once removed upwards." Cousins of an older generation (in other words, one's parents' first cousins), although technically first cousins once removed, are often classified with "aunts" and "uncles." Similarly, a person may refer to close friends of one's parents as "aunt" or "uncle," or may refer to close friends as "brother" or "sister," using the practice of fictive kinship. English-speakers mark relationships by marriage (except for wife/husband) with the tag "-in-law." The mother and father of one's spouse become one's mother-in-law and father-in-law; the female spouse of one's child becomes one's daughter-in-law and the male spouse of one's child becomes one's son-in-law. The term "sister-in-law" refers to three essentially different relationships, either the wife of one's sibling, or the sister of one's spouse, or, in some uses, the wife of one's spouse's sibling. "Brother-in-law" expresses a similar ambiguity. The terms "half-brother" and "half-sister" indicate siblings who share only one biological or adoptive parent.

Source: Wikipedia

So, it should be either First Cousin Once Removed, or as it is now... Uncle/Nephew+Niece . Personally, I vote for the second option .. There is only a handful of people who do know what "Cousin once removed" means . It would be easier for them to understand it this way ..

SeraphAngel (talk) 13:59, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Excuse me, but didn't Himawari call Neji "Uncle Neji" in the Manga anyway? Also genetically speaking, Neji and Hinata have the same genetic makeup that half-siblings would have. This is because Hiashi and Hizashi were identical twins with basically the same DNA. So I really don't see the problem with listing them as his niece and nephew and their pages listing him as their uncle. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 14:18, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Well, some people do have a problem ... Although, in my country there isn't one about it .. Even Wikipedia states that Cousins once removed can be called uncles and aunts .. ~~ SeraphAngel Rinnegan Sasuke 22:15, November 9, 2014 (UTC)


I think it should be Uncle /Nephew+Niece as well, Naruto is based on Asian culture and that is the naming convention we use. Kinholeung (talk) 08:37, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Why Boruto and Himawari are cousins? It should be "FIRST COUSINS ONCE REMOVED" because Neji is their uncle! Here's a guide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin#First_cousins_once_removed It should state as 'First Cousins Once Removed' since he's their uncle and not just uncle since it will confuse everyone. Just saying. There's a difference between just 'cousins' and 'First Cousins Once Removed'. A lot of people are complaining in Facebook Naruto community about this. (Nana Aoi666 (talk) 12:49, November 11, 2014 (UTC))

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