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So back to the main issue does all of this warrant it's own section in Naruto's article? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 22:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
So back to the main issue does all of this warrant it's own section in Naruto's article? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 22:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
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#: If you want to go by sentences "needed" to describe stuff, then all the other sections in Naruto's abilities can be summed up in 2-3 sentences as well. I fail to see how the detail I gave, including actual examples to varify, are any different.--[[User:Kagimizu|<font color="#0000FF">'''Kagi'''</font><font color="#FF0000">'''mizu'''</font>]]-[[User talk:Kagimizu|<font color="#008000">'''Seeya'''</font> <font color="#FFA500">''''round'''</font>]] 23:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

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The first sentence of the first paragraph of the "Background" section needs to be edited. It says "Naruto was born as the son of the Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze, and the third jinchūriki of the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox, Kushina Uzumaki."

The phrase "third jinchuriki" needs to be changed to "second jinchuriki" sense the structure of this sentence makes it clear that it is referring to Kushina, who was the second. Naruto was the the third jin, as stated earlier in this very same article- "He is... the third jinchūriki of the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox."

New Trivia?

Should it be added that Naruto is distantly related to the First, Second, and Fifth Hokages through his Uzumaki blood?

No. Sasuke is more closely related to Madara than Naruto is to the Hokage, but they are not listed as each others' family. ~SnapperTo 18:39, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


Not to be listed as family, but maybe added to the trivia?

Uzumaki clan is listed, and the Senju's relation is mentioned there. Should suffice. ~SnapperTo 17:35, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

How naruto and nagato related?are they very distant cousins?—This unsigned comment was made by Marcus619 (talkcontribs) .

All that is known is that they are both decedents of the Uzumaki clan. How they are related is unknown. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 10:53, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reverse Summoning

In episode 164, if Pain hadn't distracted him, Naruto would have used this jutsu Fangzntalonz (talk) 02:33, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

But he didn't. SimAnt 03:48, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
That shows he's capable of using it --Fangzntalonz (talk) 03:59, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

He has a point hes capable he just didnt.


Are there any instances of Naruto actually having a short attention span? I recall him being able to concentrate pretty good, especially during training. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 21:31, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

He usually needs things explained to him twice. But that has more to do with intelligence than attention span. ~SnapperTo 03:41, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


I agree with both, the only problem with naruto's intelligence is that you have to sometimes explained things twice. Actually naruto is very smart especially on the battle field. Naruto quickly and efficiently comes up with plans to take down S class ninja.He has proven this many times but most noticeably are during his fights with Kakuzo and Pain.contribs | translations) 21:25, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it is about intelligence, it is the way Naruto learns that is different. I think Naruto is a tactile learner, which is learning by doing something or by interaction; this can be seen by how he learned to use the Wind element. 68.248.238.133 (talk) 05:44, November 3, 2010 (UTC) Andrew


Agreed. Everyone has their own way of learning. Naruto can be viewed as somewhat dislexic? He needs to be shown how to do something, and told more then once. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 13:16, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sensing

I think Naruto's sensing ability should be noted at least in the abiilities summary or Jinchuriki transformation section.http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/42232524/11Umishiru (talk) 07:16, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Body Flicker

Are you sure it's body flicker? Killer Bee said he saw a yellow flash. Isn't that odd? --Narutodude (talk) 07:55, August 5, 2010 (UTC)Narutodude

Not really, Naruto is blond after all. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:57, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
but Yamato says Naruto "isn't quite at the fourth's level yet". i think that clarifies it as a minor version of the flying thunder god technique Fangzntalonz (talk) 08:22, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
What about the seals then? Minato could move fast without the Flying Thunder God, but he still needed the seals/marked kunais to use the Flying Thunder... My guess is that Yamato compared the speed of Minato's and Naruto's body flicker. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 08:35, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
It wasn't Flying Thunder God technique it was probably just Naruto's hair or maybe even the chakra that envelopes him has a yellow tint to it. The Fourth was also proficient in Body Flicker Technique --Cerez365 (talk) 13:16, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

I Think it should be added because killer bee said it was a teleportation technique. I think he might be able to do it because maybe his father incorporated it into his seal so he doesn't need the kunai.

Everybody knows the body flicker, so it doesn't have to be listed. And in order to use FTGT, a seal must be placed out before hand. In this case, if Naruto had used the FTGT, Kisame should have had a seal on him, and using the technique wouldn't have made Naruto run his foot into the wall, since FTGT is more transport then speed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 20:18, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
But maybe he got his foot stuck cause he couldnt control were he was going. There would have been no point in mentioning the fourth if it wasnt his jutsu. Also the fourth has had some rough crash landings when using the jutsu himself when facing Madara. I think naruto just uses the jutsu kind of like how madara uses his time/space ninjutsu but he can use it like his because the fourth might have put the seal for the FTG jutsu in his four element seal thats why he might not need one. Remember there is a difference between teleportation and accelerated movement and the body flicker is accelerated movement.
Since FTG doesn't involve movement, he can't get stuck. And Forth could move fast without FTG. And if Naruto has the FTG seal in his Four element seal, he can only transport to the place where he is already standing. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 04:53, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto didnt use any seals, so it cant be Body Flicker. I am guessing that naruto moved at high speed similar to the Fourth Abdulla266 (talk) 23:25, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

People can use jutsu without hand seals. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:46, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

True, but Body Flicker requires a hand seal. BHM1250 (talk) 05:21, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Hand seals are rarely shown. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:26, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think its the Body Flicker Technique and not the Flying Thunder God, because Naruto did not use a seal formula, which is basic in using the Flying Thunder God (ex. in the Kakashi Gaiden and during his fight with Madara). The controlled chakra of the Nine Tails could have acted similar to the Raiton Armor of the Fourth Raikage, enhancing Naruto's reaction speed. Also, even during the tailed, uncontrolled state of Naruto, he was already capable of showing great speed. Ghidora (talk) 00:50, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's most likely not body flicker technique because body flicker normally has smoke to conceal the user vanishing and appear at another place conceal by smoke to counterattack. It's most likely FTG because Minato says his move has levels as shown in Madara vs. Minato fight... where he used FTG level 2.. Ever thought Naruto used FTG level 3? (without hand seals or kunai to teleport to)1david12(talk)

Yamato said he's not at Minato's Level. So it's body flicker. KiumaruHamachi (talk) 18:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
What Yamato said could be interpreted a lot of different ways. He might have been noting that the Yondaime was more skilled at body flicker than Naruto but he could have also have meant that Naruto was using flying thunder god but with inferior skill. He could have even simply been noting that Naruto's raw speed was still inferior to the Yondaime's or equal but uncontrolled (i.e. sticking his foot into the floor). Remember that the Yondaime Hokage was supposed to be naturally as fast as the Raikage using his lightning armor.

Naruto using FTG makes no sense because it requires the special tag, and as far as we know, the only time he ever heard of the technique was when Kushina said how the Nine-Tails attack happened, no way Naruto learned the technique from what she said. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:27, August 30, 2010 (UTC)


I Believe its because the fourth hokage used the seal to make it easier to teleport but with naruto's massive amount of chakra its already easier to per form. Although its still not safe to say it was the Thunger god ability the fourth is known for but the fact stands that yamato compared it to the Fourths jutsu.

Or this could simply be something like the fan made jutsu known as the Flash Step --PrimarchRadiz (talk) 18:59, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Its kinda obvious people 1. Only Minato can perform it because only he knows how to do it. 2. Yamato could have only said that naruto was approaching the fourths speed. 3 if naruto used the FTGT where is the seal 4 if it was incorporated on his four trigrams sealing, Someone who knows it, ie. kakashi or Hiruzen should have noted 5 Some other characters have superpeed take Lee and guy. 6 we know body flicker uses chakra, this chakra could have naturally increased his speed Your saying. Minato incorporated the seal into his four trigrams sealing technique, Developed the FGT to a point not requirng a seal within a few seconds somehow taught it to naruto inside his subconscious and finally somehow naruto only used it at that moment but did not use it in any other battle before or after the incident. —This unsigned comment was made by 112.205.12.4 (talkcontribs) .

Well it's obvious that it's not the Flying Thunder God Technique... I'm actually confused to how people came to this conclusion in the first place. Ok, bee mentioned a 'Yellow Flash' and Yamato mentioned the Fourth Hokage but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the Yellow flash technique. The Fourth wasn't only known for his FTGT, he was also known for other things. Case in point, his Taijutsu and Reflexes. In Kyuubi-mode Naruto's own strength, speed and reflexes get a boost just like when he's in Sage mode. The most likely cause of this high speed assault on Kisame is just his natural speed in kyuubi-mode. I don't think it's the body flicker because Naruto doesn't know the body flicker technique. Don't forget that this is Naruto we're talking about. He may know a couple A/S Class jutsu but he isn't that well versed in Jutsu.


Maybe Naruto invented a new jutsu right before he attacked Kisame in his subconcious and it was very similar to FGT.Or Killer Bee thought he saw a yellow flash and instead it was really orange.That chapter didn't come out in color.Amaterasu789 (talk) 22:32, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nickname?

Should Yellow Flash be added to Naruto's nicknames with Child of the Prophecy and Konoha's Orange Hokage?Sparxs77 (talk) 10:55, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

No the yellow flash was minato just because naruto used the body flicker techniques it doesnt mean that naruto will be the "new" yellow flash, also the orange hokage should be removed because he called himself that a true nickname is when the others call u something for a special skill/characteristic not to mention that he isnt a Hokage yet UsoppSpell (talk) 11:54, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

It wasnt FTG, killer bee maybe thought it was a telerpotation becuase of the speed, and if it was a teleportation then there would have been no yellow flash. Also they probably refrence that naruto isnt at the fourths level because the 4th was extremly fast even wouthout using the FTG, and i know all of this has been said allot of times. And also there is no way that naruto could have used FTG since no seals where put anywhere on kisames body or anywhere else for that matter and when naruto punched kisame you saw a whole lot of momentum behind the punch meaning he was moving extremley fast and not teleporting.


We won't find out what the hell Naruto did or didn't accomplish for several more chapters. I find it odd that when Naruto came back from his 2.5 year training trip and was going to rescue Gaara, Jiraiya pulled Naruto aside and said not to use that Jutsu. What jutsu? He's not referring to the Kyuubi or he would have worded it differently, like "Remember, don't allow your anger to control you, you know what could happen." Correct? On top of that, we have no idea of the mechanics behind Naruto's new form. It could allow for Naruto to use space/time jutsu, he could know a jutsu similar to the Hiraishin as he never used a seal to "home-in" on, and you do not need to perform hand-seals if you have mastered a jutsu to such a degree. Otherwise everyone would be throwing around hand-seals to perform academy-level jutsu. Also, since Naruto has become a true sage, to a level not even Jiraiya reached, mastered the Kyuubi, and has this new form, it will take time for Kishimoto to allow use to find out exactly what Naruto did. Its just strange that Killer Bee would mention all he saw was a "Yellow Flash" and then Yamato making the comparison between Naruto and his father saying "he's not their yet". Without a doubt though, Naruto is currently the strongest ninja that Konoha has to offer. He may not be the most skillful, but that will eventually come. In my personal opinion, I think Naruto performed a jutsu similar to the Flying Thunder God technique. I also remember something about Minato trying to advance the FTG to a point where he didn't need a marker. It may have been slower, but infinitely more useful for such situations. The force behind Naruto's punch could easily be attributed to his new form, since he just used it for the very first time. So, the debate on this should ease up for several weeks until we know more and than the "I Told You So's" can begin to fly. Later. 98.77.105.174 (talk) 11:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Tristan7698.77.105.174 (talk) 11:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Flying Thunder God Technique

It states right here that Naruto teleported. Just like we all had to assume Sasuke knew Tsukoyomi to use Susanoo, I think all of the evidence presented here points directly to a variation of the Flying Thunder God Technique.

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/42232524/13 76.235.7.222 (talk) 19:00, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke already had the prerequisite; the Mangekyo Sharingan. Naruto does not have the prerequisite; a technique formula. ~SnapperTo 19:19, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
I think it is a little premature to being trying to label or categorize what technique Naruto used against Kisame. All we know is that it allowed him to rapidly close the distance with Kisame and that Killer Bee called it a teleportation technique. Whether it was body flicker, flying thunder god, or some other Jutsu (perhaps whatever technique Jiraiya, Minato and Naruto have been working on) is impossible to determine at the moment. 70.128.110.124 (talk) 19:56, August 5, 2010 (UTC)Jeremy

Shunshin no Jutsu (Body Flicker Technique) has often been translated as teleportation technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:11, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone know where to find the chapter in its original, untranslated state so the kanji can be compared? Barring waiting until next week (if we are lucky) it seems to be the only way to settle the issue.—This unsigned comment was made by 70.128.110.124 (talkcontribs) .

If you look at the sleepyfans scanlation it says "Was that the shunshin no jutsu? He's on the offensive just like a golden flash."--76.189.208.22 (talk) 12:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Teleportation Technique

He could have learned Flying Thunder God Jutsu at a new level maybe level 3. Or its a new teleportation jutsu. Its not Body Flicker because Naruto didn't use any seals.

Neither did the Raikage. Not FTG. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:10, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Why does it have to be either of them? Remember, Naruto is using the Nine-Tails power. His speed and strength will of course increase to bold new levels. Why does Naruto punching Kisame like that have to be a technique? Naruto could just be this fast while using his new powers. We don't know whether it was the Fourth's technique, (although there has to be a seal) and the body flicker technique, (there was not hand seal made). Since we do not know what happened, isn't putting either technique in his article for what happened speculation? All we know is that Bee commented it was teleportation. The body flicker is just a high speed movement, not teleportation; therefore, we should word the article in saying that Naruto's speed has increased to the point it appeared as if he teleported. HellBlade (talk) 00:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

The punch is not the technique, is the sudden movement which allowed him to reach Kisame, and then punch him. Other characters have used Body Flicker without seals before. I'm just waiting for ShounenSuki to pop up having read a RAW and saying it was the Body Flicker Technique. BFT has been translated as teleportation more than once in the past. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:01, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how accurate Manga Stream's scanlations are, but the bottom two panels, and the leftmost center panel both suggest that it is the Flying Thunder God. "Teleport technique, and a right handed smash. But all I saw was a yellow flash!" This comments on the nickname gained by the Fourth for using the technique. "He's not quite at the Fourth's level yet!" The seal can be made with the user's bare hands as demonstrated by Minato. But we still have to wait.WolfMaster (talk) 17:44, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Shunshin no jutsu (Body Flicker Technique) has often been translated as teleportation, even though they're not the same thing. I never thought I'd say this, but I think that MangaStream made a very sloppy mistake, which is very unusual, cause out of the available scanaltions, theirs are usually the most accurate ones. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:22, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto used Shunshin no jutsu (Body Flicker Technique/Also called teleport many times). This technique has been used by a lot of ninjas including Suishi, Minato, and others. It super fast movement that makes it seem as if you teleport. Naruto used this as he left a yellow trail while moving so fast.

Hiraishin no Jutsu is the FTG justu. It requires a seal and its actual teleportation. Naruto did not use this one, and part of the proof is that he left a trail. The other thing I noticed is that he got stuck on the way. For that to happen we can asume he was just moving really fast (Shunshin no jutsu). Aratorn - Talk - Contributions 23:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

So it is agreed that it is or IS NOT Body Flicker? I don't want to start an edit war...Questionaredude (talk) 03:17, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Correction on controlled chakra mode

Naruto was said to be able to sense negative emotions in this mode which can't be done even by the most brilliant sensor shinobi, and not chakra which makes sense because he just had a battle with the demon foxes hate. So yeah the correction is needed under Jinchuriki Transformations on Narutos page.

When Naruto didn't make two clones...

...to gather Natural Energy, he's not limited.

This started because Naruto used hundreds of Sage Mode Clones in his mind, people have argued thats only possible because it happened in his mind. However, on this page, Naruto explains why he is using three clones in battle: And I can only make three clones in battle...if I make anymore, it'll interfere with the one focusing Sage Chakra. So thus, if he doesn't have any clones gathering natural energy to make Sage Chakra, his limit is taken off. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:06, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The issue still is in his mind. There was only one Naruto, motionless, gathering natural energy, while in his mind, he was fighting the fox. The example you gave applies to when Naruto is fighting in reality. In the fight against the fox, it was all happening in his head, he was motionless, so he could gather natural energy without problem, there were no actual clones to interfere with the balance. He can do whatever he wants in his mind, because the conditions for making senjutsu chakra are met by his body. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
And what, exactly, did Naruto do in his mind that he couldn't do in 'reality'? When the fight started, all Naruto did was use the powers he could do in the real world. And again, Naruto said it himself-when he doesn't have clones focusing Sage Chakra, the limit of three clones in battle is removed. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:22, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
You still don't understand the difference between his mind and the reality. Suppose the fight didn't take place in his mind, that it happened in reality. Just the fact Naruto made so many clones would disrupt his chakra, or are you saying that what mindscape-Naruto did (entering in Sage Mode while fighting without stopping) is something he can do in reality? He can't. Naruto's mind also entered in Sage Mode, so to speak, the fight between Naruto and the Nine-Tails was a mental one, not a physical one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:31, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Just because it happened in his mind does not mean it wasn't a physical struggle. At no point did Killer Bee assure Naruto 'Its in your mind, don't worry'. Hell the very battlefield that was chosen facilitated the physical struggle. On top of that, Naruto used several named attacks-something that isn't normally associated with a mental battle. And again, in Naruto 434, anymore clones than Three while two others are gathering the natural chakra would disrupt the focus of those gathering the energy. Without them, Naruto isn't limited, as was shown in 441 (when he created all those clones while still in Sage Mode, had them transform into rocks and everything) and then again in 499. If the battle was really mental? Why didn't Naruto just grow to the size where the Fox would have been the size of a ant and then step on him? Why didn't Naruto start materializing weapons and other things to fight him? --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:06, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with SuperSaiyaMan in that the clone limit only applies when there are clones gathering natural energy.
However, I also agree that the mindscape complicates things. Real Naruto enters Sage Mode, and so do all imaginary Narutos. That's not how things have worked in the past; clones take on the appearance of Naruto at the time of their creation, not his current appearance. ~SnapperTo 03:12, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, I'll give you that. Though at least we agree that Naruto isn't limited without clones gathering chakra. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:21, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
There were no actual clones, so his actual body had no trouble gathering energy, it's the mind stuff that complicates things.
Basically, all we know is that in his mind he has less limitations, but these can't be precisely described. We don't exactly what gives Naruto the advantages he has in his mind, we can't explain it accurately, and in these cases, we've always simply said what happens, leaving out the how, which is how the page was before you started adding this. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
But again, he is limited in the Real World by the two clones gathering natural energy. Without them, that limit is over. We saw it happen in 441. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:38, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
In the real world, he is indeed limited by the clones. Not so sure the limit would simply vanish without that, because if he makes Sage chakra and then makes 100 clones, what would happen? Would the sage chakra be distributed evenly, would it disrupt the balance? If he makes the clones and then enters Sage Mode, how would that affect the balance of the Sage chakra? The order of events might change the consequences. We can't say for certain what would happen. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:52, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Omnibender, Snapper agreed with me that without the two clones Naruto makes to gather Natural Energy, he wouldn't be limited by clones. Naruto himself says it in 434, and he performed it in 441 when he was making his trap for Deva Path (he had zero clones gathering Natural Energy). And yes, the Sage Chakra would be distributed evenly when he makes 100-1000 clones since they're perfect copies of Naruto himself. The reason why he's limited is because he creates two clones to continuously gather Natural Energy. If they're not there, that limit is gone. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:57, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
He made many clones while in Sage Mode, threw two Rasenshuriken, and reverted to normal. When his clones untransformed, they all looked normal. Were they originally in Sage Mode and reverted back with Naruto, or did they appear already out of it? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:05, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Presumably, because whenever Naruto made Clones while still in Sage Mode, all those clones he created for the trap were in Sage Mode too and then reverted when he did. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
But they shouldn't have, because unlike Naruto, the clones didn't throw two Rasenshuriken. If Sage chakra is distributed evenly, all of them would have the same amount of it, so if Naruto reverted after throwing two RS, his clones shouldn't have reverted from a transformation technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:12, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to agree the limit isn't existent without any clones. He had to do that Tayjuu Kage Bunshin spam to catch Pain when he was still in Sage Mode after all after the Chibaku Tensei ended.


It should also be noted that, what happens in Naruto's mind doesn't really have real life changes. Fighting Pain and making excessive clones would distract them, but when fighitng the Nine Tails it was all in his mind. The real Naruto was behind the Truth of Falls, sat still. Besides, when Naruto was sat in the Truth of Falls, fighting Dark Naruto, there was no real manifestation of Dark Naruto. It was all inside himself. Nuff said - SharinganMike

I think that SuperSaiyaMan is right, he just hasn't said it correctly. The important factor isn't actually the clones in combat or his mind. Its the sage chakra. Gathering Sage Chakra requires immense focus, which is why he needs to limit the clones he makes. He needs to have the focus on those two. The reason there's no limit to the number of clones that can be made is because he doesn't need to gather it anymore. He's simply dividing and utilizing that chakra evenly. Sage Chakra is dangerous so he needs to focus. But without gathering it, he can just use it. And its not unreasonable for him to use tons of Giant Rasengans because he can just use the chakra like in reality. Also killer bee participated in the fight, and seemed drained, showing that though it was mental, the chakra usage appears real. —This unsigned comment was made by 174.30.133.86 (talkcontribs) .

Naruto Stats in part 3

I think the 26 rating is ridiculous.

I know the table listed doesn't take sage mode or his new 9-tails mode into account,but a base rating of 26 is too low, as u can tell from when he rescues sakura, his strength and speed are almost the same level as sasuke. And his taijutsu was enough to hold up against pain and even kakashi when they were training. And jiraiya's said multiple times that naruto's genjutsu was as bad as his own. So either jiraiya's genjutsu should be lowered or naruto's should be raised, although i think the former is more likely. Naruto still hasn't shown the ability to cast any genjutsu, but he's surely powerful enough now to release most of them.

And frankly, against pain, his use of the shadow clones was pure genius. I think his battle intelligence should be raised too, as well as hand seals, because we hardly see him doing any.

Overall i say:

Strength  :+1 Speed  :+1 Hand Seals  :+2.5 Taijutsu  :+0.5 Ninjutsu  :+0.5 Intelligence:+1

Overall, a rating of 31-32 seems more accurate to me. I mean seriously, he's rated the SAME as Sakura right now,and lower than Sai, does that bother anyone else? And the strangest thing is that it is mentioned in the manga that naruto has surpassed Kakashi, yet he ranked lower than Kakashi and even Sai who can't handle even one of the peins.

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Overall we say it won't be changed until an official release from Masashi Kishimoto is issued whether through databook or some other media so quit your whining--Cerez365 (talk) 12:52, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I feel like narutos ninjutsu should Just be 5 because he has been shown to use a and s rank jutsus. Rasengan, Air style Rasenshuriken, Air style Rasengan, Toad flame bullet, Giant rasengana and so on. I also agree on his speed beeing increased to either 4.5 or 5 because at this point it has been compared to the fourth hokages Thunder god by yamato, and regarded by killer bee. Intelligence could be raised by 1 or 1.5 points because he has shown great battle tactics. Tactics that took down kakuzo and even pein. Over all his strengh is carefully regarded by maadara in many occasions. Too bad stamina is already maxed out. although it could surpass 5

Strength  : [4.5] Speed  : [4.5 or 5] Hand Seals  : [3] Taijutsu  : [4 or 4.5] Ninjutsu  : [5] Intelligence: [4 or 4.5] Stamina  : [5] genjutsu  : [at least 3 or 3.5]

A total point of 33-35

Why is Chackra not listed as one of the areas?—This unsigned comment was made by Rigoberto60 (talkcontribs) .

It is his stamina. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:51, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Bothersome

The people who edit or post new information on here cant do anything right. On Naruto's abilities under his status as a member of the Uzumaki clan it should say he has a potential long life span not stamina Stamina is chakra we already know Naruto has a lot of chakra. Vitality AND Longevity should be on the page also. I would do it myself but guess what? the page is locked big surprise.

In the manga, vitality/stamina are rather interchangeable. The page is locked because too many people are stubborn and thick-headed to point of adding Flying Thunder God to his jutsu, even though what he did wasn't that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:57, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The only one who can tell what is really truth about Naruto and what not ids kishimoto sempai,he decide and all waht we do here is writing someting what we read in databook and see in manga and anime,or suspect that its true.Also it does not to have logic everything what happens in manga it is just kishimotos fiction and way of interpretaiting.He is the god of naruto world and how he decide that is how it is going to be,and we cant change anything(or we can write him a letter in witch we tell him what we would like from him to do,now why wouldn't we do so,taht's a good idea)93.86.100.161 (talk) 13:57, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Typing Error

Since it's locked and I can't change it, I guess I'll leave the note here that there is an error within this article. For Dark Naruto: "Soon after, Dark Naruto (闇ナルト, Yami Naruto) appeared, berating Naruto on [[[how quickly the people from Konoha for how quickly]]] they changed their ideals of Naruto and had started sucking up to him, which sickened Dark Naruto." It should say "Berated Naruto on how quickly the people of Konaha changed their ideals"—This unsigned comment was made by 174.124.206.51 (talkcontribs) .

Who did Adult Naruto's voice?

In episode 155 of Shippuuden, Naruto imagined himself as a full grown ninja, but his voice was drastically deeper. Who did his voice, because it was obviously not Junko Takeuchi? And also, shouldn't it then be added under his voice actors/actress/seiyu?

Sorry didn't sign my above postSparxs77 (talk) 20:15, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Clan name

Naruto's clan name must be Uzumaki Namikaze since he's the son of the 4th hokage.—This unsigned comment was made by Ccebling (talkcontribs) .

Who said Minato was a part of a clan? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:15, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's stupid Ccebling! Naruto got his mother's name (for an unknown reason) And Minato is not an Uzamaki, he was only sent on a mission to The hidden Waterfall Village (now destroyed, I'm not sure if waterfall village is right) and saw the nine tails' jinchuriki and saved her and said he recognized her beautiful hair in the breeze and fell in love with her and then impregnated her. 1david12 (Talk)

Naruto got his mother's surname because the third hokage wanted to keep the secret to naruto that he was son of te fourth hokage. Ragd4 (Talk)


Actually, Naruto really is from the Namikaze clan because of his blue eyes and blonde hair, and Naruto's affinity to wind just like how Namikaze can be broken up to I think waves and wind? And is Naruto was truly from the Uzumaki clan, he would probably have the red hair.I also think Gaara is from the Uzumaki clan because of his red hair and Kushina told Naruto that when Uzushogakure was destroyed the remaining Uzumaki members were scattered around the world. Just a prediction.Amaterasu789 (talk) 05:31, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

The red hair was typical for Uzumaki clan members, but that doesn't mean each Uzumaki has red hair. Nor does it mean that everyone with red hair is an Uzumaki.
As for the clan matter, in a perfect world, Naruto might have been a Namikaze. He might also have been an Uzumaki, since that clan seemed to have been more important — we don't even know if the Namikaze were a clan in the same sense as the Uzumaki. Either way, at this moment, Naruto is an Uzumaki. This will not change until we learn more of the Namikaze clan. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 12:41, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

if kushina mother was...

...the first hokage's wife doesn't that make naruto also related?

also he would be cousin's with tsunade and of some relation to the second hokage. I could be wrong just curious.

kushina's mother is not the firsts wife, they are simple from the same clan Fawcettp (talk) 03:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

No where in the manga does it say this. Mito was just part of the Uzumaki clan. There was no relationship between Kushina and Mito other than them being from the same clan.

Orale...Once more,people from the same clan in Naruto are usually related

Mito wasn't Kushina's mother, but they were probably related by blood in some way though though this hasn't been disclosed yet --Cerez 365 (talk) 17:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Mito is Kushina's mother... Kushina told naruto to take care of his grandmother and naruto asked who's that and kushina said she'll let him have to find that out by hisself... and there is not one living namikaze left neither Uzamaki... So you guys still think Mito isn't Kushina's mom?... If no... You're wrong! She is! 1david12(talk)

In what chapter did Kushina say that.--Deva 27 (talk) 19:42, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
he's trolling... troll is obviously trolling --Cerez365 (talk) 19:46, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

No. Mito is not Kushina's mother, it was not YET revealed. and the time that Kushina said that to take care of his grandmother was a prediction in http://naruto-spoilers.blogspot.com/ it was never said by Kushina therefore Mito not being Naruto's grandmother and were not yet sure that there are no more Namikaze out there aside from Naruto. 33royward (talk) 09:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

ok i think that answers my question thank you and sorry for the confusion.

Arcs

Are there any mistakes made to the different acrs?

Missing Qoute

Maybe its not important but I miss a quote I think fits Naruto's way of thinking: (To Hinata) Hinata...I always thought of you as...A dark, timid, and weird person...But you know something...? I like people like you. from episode 59 of the original series HyuugaHinataTenTen (talk) 19:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Not at all important. Naruto likes lots of people. No it will never be important.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Requesting edit on Naruto's intentions

I recommend that the line "However, like the rest of Konoha, Naruto has finally given up in bringing back Sasuke as a citizen of the village, believing that words would no longer have any effect to allowing them to understand each other." be modified into:

"However, like the rest of Konoha, Naruto has finally given up in bringing Sasuke back as a citizen of the village, believing that words would no longer have any effect to allowing them to understand each other, and has resigned himself to fighting and defeating Sasuke to protect Konoha." This would convey Naruto's intentions a little more throughly.

Thanks.


Edit: Could someone tweak that a little further into "...and has resigned himself to fighting(and potentially killing) Sasuke to protect Konoha." please?

Edit to the Five Kage Summit Arc

I feel that the last paragraph of this portion of the article could be written better.

Suggested edit:

"Using a shadow clone as a decoy Naruto escaped from Yamato and pursued Kakashi using his Sage Mode to follow the latter's chakra. He arrived just in time to save Sakura from being killed by Sasuke. Naruto made a last attempt to reason with his former friend, sympathising with his pain and acknowledging Itachi's sacrifice. However Sasuke was unmoved, and made his resolve to destroy Konoha clear. Shocked by the depths of his hatred, Kakashi resolved to kill Sasuke, but was stopped by Naruto, who instead fought Sasuke head-on, matching his Rasengan with the latter's Chidori. Both survived the clash, with Madara and Zetsu coming to Sasuke's rescue. Before Sasuke left, Naruto noted that they had both become top-class ninja, and if they ever fought again they would both die. He nevertheless accepted such an outcome, since it would at least enable him to shoulder Sasuke's hatred alone. In answer, Sasuke declared that he had no intention to die, and promised to kill Naruto first. He left with Madara and Naruto collapsed from the poison in Sakura's kunai(which he was accidentally cut with while rescuing her). After receiving an antidote he prepared to return to Konoha with his teammates, bearing Karin as a captive."

This would be easier if you just made an account. ~SnapperTo 18:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Other nicknames

Should 'number one unpredictable ninja' and 'usuratonkachi' be included in the infobox? Please reply. KazeKitsune (talk) 18:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Never atually thought about it... Good point... But I think the higher ups should make the best choice!!Sparxs77 (talk) 21:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto 's voice

I heard that Naruto 's voice when he was a child was making by a woman.Is that true?Giotis (talk) 18:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Most voice actors of (young) male characters in anime are female --Cerez365 (talk) 18:47, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

all naruto's voices are done by a woman even the english version

Naruto

Who took care of Naruto when he was a small boy? ('cause both Minato and Kushina died) or did he take care of himself? Naginata

The system. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 12:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
     Maybe third hokage looked after him.Giotis (talk) 16:15, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto's Eyes

Can anyone tell me what's up with Naruto's eyes in episodes 87-88? They have the Demon Fox's slit pupils but his blue eye color. Whats up with that?

Animation mistake. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 11:09, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Rasen shuriken

When naruto uses the shadow shuriken jutsu its simply a shuriken behind the shadow of the first, but he also does this rasen shuriken. Therefore shouldnt it be listed that naruto can use "shadow fuuton rasen shuriken jutsu" or another official name for it. User talk:rigoberto60 05:51, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's just the Shadow Shuriken Technique. There aren't different varieties depending on what kind of shuriken is used. ~SnapperTo 22:57, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Fire Release W/ Stipulation?

Alright, the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox is capable of using Fire Release chakra in the anime (made note of it on the article myself), and Naruto is listed capable of using Nine-Tailed Fox Fire Stream, which is marked as a Fire Release technique (again, marked as such by yours truly), so perhaps Fire Release should be listed as a chakra nature of his, but noted as anime only and only with the Nine-Tails' power? In Gaara's article it's noted that he can use Wind Release due to Shukakku's influence, so I don't see why the same can't be done for Naruto. Anyone else think this is valid, so long as it's mentioned as anime only and due to the Kyuubi's influence?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 18:55, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, we don't know if Gaara can use Wind Release just because of Shukaku. There was a databook technique he used in a jinchūriki form that explicitly listed him as the user of a Wind Release technique, and since he can still use sand, plus the fact he had Shukaku implanted in-utero, there's the argument that Shukaku's abilities "rubbed on" Gaara. When Gaara fully released Shukaku, the technique used was listed in the databook as being listed by Shukaku, not Gaara. It's complicated. This is also complicated, because the animators added a lot of stuff to that fight, Pain and Naruto I mean. On the argument of adding Fire Release, we can very well also put Wind Release, and if some people are pushy enough, other two elements (please don't make me explain it). Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, other elements can be explained as not actually being jutsu or techniques. Nine-Tailed Fox Fire Stream is an actual technique, as are the fireballs used in the Six-Tailed Form (thinking of making article once I get the info actually), rather than an effect of the Nine-Tails' power. The manipulation of the sources around him could also be explained as part of the Nine-Tails' power as a living "natural disaster". Right now however, I am speaking of adding Fire Release to Naruto's infobox under the stipulation that it is anime only, and an influence from the Nine-Tailed Fox. The other elements could be explained in Naruto's jinchuuriki section of his abilities, or even on the article for his jinchuuriki forms.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 19:54, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

At the moment, those things that Naruto shot at Pain are listed as an anime-only example of menancing ball, being a rapid-fire version of it. Kinda like Danzo's Wind Release bullet and blade technique. Either one big or several small. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:20, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but those attacks are indeed given seperate articles. Like I said, I'm gonna get more info before even seriously consider trying to make an article for it. However, we're veering off-topic; should Fire Release be added under something like "Anime Only; Nine-Tailed Fox Influence" or not?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 20:37, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

You should probably not add it. The Fire Release icon has been added many times since that episode aired, and it have been removed every single time. Even if people's minds changed since them, something I don't believe, you should probably wait until more people voice their opinion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'd be glad to hear what everyone else thinks about this before doing anything.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 00:59, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think anything Naruto does at four-tails or more should be listed. If he isn't consciously aware that he's using the ability, he can't really be a "user". ~SnapperTo 23:47, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well despite that, he still is listed as a user of the technique(s). As such, should Fire be listed as something like "Anime Only; Nine-Tailed Fox Influence"?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 23:50, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

And I am saying he should not be listed as a user of those techniques, and by extension fire release. ~SnapperTo 00:01, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Snapper, Naruto isn't conscious so he shouldn't be listed.--Deva 27 (talk) 00:03, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

And likewise I'm saying that while he is, the article might as well follow suit and put up Fire Release.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 00:06, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Roshi's Four Tailed Monkey Biju uses both Fire Release and Earth Release to make Lava release ( Anime Only), and it is listed on both the Host and Tailed beasts pages. However Meanwhile Yugito Nii's two tailed cat uses a fire ball which is not listed as fire release. So???? Personally I'd like naruto to develop so more Elements, not Fire in Particular. I think it's up to if we want to stay true to Manga or accept the Anime.--FullMetalXY (talk) 00:14, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

As I said, "Anime only; Nine-Tailed Fox Influence".--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 00:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Roshi makes Lava Release both in the anime and in the manga, artbook confirmed it. Yugito's case I think it's because Two-Tails fire may not necessarily be actual technique, but rather a channeling of its flame body. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:13, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

While Nine-Tailed Fox Fire Stream is an actual, anime only technique.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 01:18, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

New Developments in the Manga

In Episode 510, it is mentioned that it is an Uzumaki ability to have the Rinnegan. Also the Magatama around the neck of the Sage of the Six Paths looks exactly the same as Narutos new seal. --Acidburn1337 (talk) 16:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It just says that Nagato was an Uzumaki and he had a Rinnegan, it says nothing of it being an Uzumaki Kekkei-Genkai. If you're going to assume the Uzumaki's have the ability to use the Rinnegan, then you can also assume the Uzumaki's can access the Wood Release and the Sharingan, due to them having distant related blood. (The Sage of the Six Paths.)-TCxRebel (talk) 00:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

TCxRebel, the Wood Release Kekkai Genkai is something unique to Hashirama, not one that is hereditary, otherwise Tsunade and Tobirama could use it. We have no knowledge as to whether the Rikudo Sage could perform it. And not to mention, just because the Senju and Uchiha are distantly (keyword) related, they can NOT obtain a Sharingan. The Senju descended from the younger brother, who inherited the Sage's "physical energy", while the older brother inherited the Sage's "eyes." Skitts (talk) 02:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC) `

Sage Mode+Kyubi Chakra Combination

Now that he's gained control over the entirety of the Kyubi's chakra, combined with the fact that we saw a version of it when he walked in on Nagato and Konan, I could see this as being his next "power-up." Just thnking about how strong he'd be, crazy. Random question but, with these too external chakras,shouldn't he be basically immune to genjutsu now? Skitts (talk) 02:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

yeah he should be, according to bee one who controls their beast is immune to genjutsu because the inner bijuu disturbs the chackra of the jinchurikii and repels the genjutsu.rigoberto60 (talk) 13:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Speculation. The way that works, the bijuu uses its chakra to disturb and repel the genjutsu. However, Naruto has seperated the Nine-Tailed Fox from its chakra entirely. Whether or not he'd be capable of dispelling genjutsu or not like Bee did is as of yet unknown.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 03:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's highly likely that he will combine the 2 forms, we were even given a glimpse of it in the "Invasion of Pain" arc, with his having a combination of Sage Mode and Kyubi eyes, so I think Kishi was (maybe) givng us a hint. At least, I hope he was. Oh, and even if he can't escape genjutsu with the Kyubi's chakra, I think Sage Mode should be able to accomplish it. And speaking of the Nine-Tails' chakra, I'm wondering if it can still be supressed by the Sharingan now that it's been separated from it's will... 99.129.42.88 (talk) 19:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Although this is still speculation, and I apologise for it, I would like to get others opinions on the matter. Isn't the whole premise behind hosts in control of their bijuu being immune to genjutsu all about the kyuubi being a "seperate consciousness" and therefore capable of interviening when the host is under genjutsu without the need for their instruction? This worked for Bee because he works in sync with his bijuu (as a team) rather than bee just using the bijuu's chakra and working alone. Otherwise characters like Kisame and the Uzumaki clan would all be immune to genjutsu because they have very large chakra reserves, which is essentially what Naruto has now. Based on what we've seen in the manga, Naruto doesn't work alongside his bijuu as his bijuu hates him and is locked away. Naruto basically has one huge chakra reserve. Basically what I'm saying is Naruto controls his bijuu's chakra in a completely different way to Bee and therefore the assumption that he is immune to genjutsu doesn't apply. I understand that if Naruto is smart enough to tell he's trapped in a genjutsu, he could now easily force himself out of it with a burst of the kyuubi's chakra but that still relies totally on his own abilities and not just the aid of the bijuu. That's what I think, anyway. Gojinn (talk) 00:41, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

@Gojinn The reason that bijuus can dispell genjutsu is because the bijuu injects its own chakra into the host, which disturbs the host's chakra and ends the genjutsu. That is how all genjutsu can be stopped (like during the Team 7 & Chiyo vs Itachi fight.) So technically, any of those 2 forms should stop genjutsu. 99.129.42.88 (talk) 15:21, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I understand the premis behind how the user can use the chakra to break a genjutsu cast on them but what I'm saying is that, although Naruto has a large chakra reserve plus the ability to use natural energy, he still has to sense that he is in a genjutsu and force the chakra through his system. But Naruto isn't the smartest of ninja and hence won't be able to always determine if he is under a genjutsu. What I was trying to get across is that, despite having full control of a bijuu, you're not automatically immune to genjutsu. Bee is immune to genjutsu because he works alongside his bijuu and it's his bijuu that sends the chakra through Bee and dispelling the genjutsu, not Killer Bee. Naruto doesn't work alongside his bijuu, he just uses his bijuu and so still needs to rely on himself to break the genjutsu because the nine tails won't help. That's why Naruto isn't immune. He'd easily be able to break a genjutsu if he focusd hard enough, but he would still be susceptible to it. Gojinn (talk) 19:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

On a different note, senjutsu is the utilization of natural energy... it requires a large source of chakra so that more natural energy can be used, im betting that with all the chakra of the nine-tails, naruto can use sage mode for a very long time

I think it's worth mentioning that Sage mode and jyubi chakra dont mix so there will never be a sage kyubi because kyubi disrupts senjutsu (natural is disrupted by unnatural)

New seal

Does anyone know if there is a fan-made colored version of his new seal? Otherwise, can we make one? 98.111.245.135 (talk) 01:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

There are fan colored versions on the net, but we only use the real thing, no fan creations. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:08, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
Didn't we use a fan-colored picture of his sage mode (when he shows up in ruined konoha to fight pain) before we got a "real thing" 98.111.245.135 (talk) 05:51, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
That was an official color illustration by series creator Masashi Kishimoto. ~SnapperTo 07:42, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tanto

Hope it's alright with you if someone adds tanto to naruto's weapons. He might not own one, but has been seen using Sai's tanto against Omoi and Karui, and shown to be quite proficient wielding it too. Chapter 452 Page 11. SharinganMike (talk) 12:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto Is 17

His birthday passed it was confirmed on viz media naruto and sayian island so now Naruto Is 17 68.171.231.20 (talk) 02:16, October 5, 2010 (UTC)Flownamail68.171.231.20 (talk) 02:16, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

That's difficult to believe since the most recent manga chapters say the demon fox's attack, the day of Naruto's birth, was sixteen years ago.
Where does Viz say this? ~SnapperTo 02:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


Its true here is link (http://www.vizanime.com/news/193-10-10-10-happy-birthday-naruto?utm_source=viznewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=viznewsletteroctober)--Rigoberto60 (talk) 14:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

The series doesn't follow the real-life calendar, you know. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 14:24, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

We don't know naruto's birthday right, therefor we have no claim to his age

Family

should the section for Naruto's family be extended to inclued Nagato, Tsunade, and Mito Uzumaki as distant relitives? PrimarchRadiz (talk) 18:40, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

No. That's what the clan listing is for; giving reference to extended family. ~SnapperTo 22:43, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Random Questions

looking at what happened in ch. 499 "the new seal", is there new relationship with the kyuubi for naruto? also, why is naruto asking kyuubi to wait? ~K9EO

Transferance Jutsu

Some member is going around adding that to the begining of every page. It needs stopped Fangzntalonz (talk) 15:21, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

6 Rasengans, No clones

On the splash page of the new chapter (chapter 515) we see Naruto in his coloured Jinchuriki Form. Behind him he creates six Rasengans in mid air. Should this be noted? Please also remeber that in the manga chakra is yellow, that is why the Rasengans behind him is yellow and not blue, like in the anime...Sparxs77 (talk) 22:24, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

I believe it's a reference to Fūjin and Raijin. Just google some images and you'll get it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:56, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Omnibender... Appreciate itSparxs77 (talk) 23:15, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Though the concept could be seen probable, since it was demonstrated in the Sasuke/Naruto fight in Part 1 at the 'Valley of the End'; where Naruto created a Rasengan without a clone because it was seen that the nine-tails chakra cloak acted as a containment field. Later in this chapter (515) of the Splash page in question, Naruto is being taught to use the nine-tails chakra as limbs and hypothetically could be used to create the said image. Though currently there is nothing to support this as any kind of technique except the splash page, which could be just art and have no connection to the Naruto-verse. 68.248.238.133 (talk) 05:31, November 3, 2010 (UTC) Andrew

Isn't it awesome though?! Maybe he will even create Rasenshurikens in mid air or something. Also I wonder if he can still use Sage Mode while using his new controlled jinchūriki form.

What i think is that the excess chakra flowing from the new form can be formed into (rasengan, chakra arms, weapons, clones possibly ets) so maybe because it's the forms chakra naruto can make rasengans with just wanting to without clones or anything at all meaning hes not wasting chakra and can make them from anywhere on his body maybe even from chakra arms.Elvesyou--JS 19:01, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Edit needed

Hi. I am new and unregistered but would like to make a few suggestions.

1. In Naruto's abilities, it says Deidara acknowledged how strong he had BECAME. (grammatical error) : how strong he had BECOME. Please edit. 2. RAsenshuriken is not his only long range move. Red chakra arms, sonic roar, everywhere shuriken, etc are mid range too. You could say he is a short range fighter but he has quite a few techs in his arsenal to adjust to the situation.

Thanks a lot!

Everyone dissapears

Ok, so now Naruto still on the island, but all of a sudden, everyone around him dissapears- Yamato, Aoba and Guy. Won't he start asking questions? Sparxs77 (talk) 10:48, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

He is already asking questions. He's being kept busy by B, though. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 10:55, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Edit requested... again

Hi. I am requesting an edit to Naruto's Abilities section.

It says "Apart from the Rasenshuriken and throwing himself with clones, he is mainly limited to short range" This lists only 2 of Naruto's Long range abilities. I suppose it will be a bit of a bother listing long range techs.

In which case i suggest this. "Apart from a few techniques, he is mainly limited to short range combat"

Please respond to this topic!! Thanks!!!

The longer-range jutsu you listed before aren't used frequently enough to be real exceptions. ~SnapperTo 16:26, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for responding!

Naruto's Abilities

Under the Ninjutsu title, five jutsu are mentioned. Rasengan, Collob jutsu, wind release, summoning and shadow clone. Perhaps we could add an intro to the Ninjutsu section. Example: Naruto is highly proficient in Ninjutsu and is very talented, learning many advanced jutsu, even learning what those considered impossible. —This unsigned comment was made by 202.156.11.240 (talkcontribs) on 00:00, November 5, 2010.

Don't forget that at the same time Naruto is also very bad at learning Ninjutsu. Remember that he was the worst in his class at the shadow clone jutsu, it's the jutsu he uses so much "because" of how bad he was at it (there was a part in the story where he said something along those lines). And he's fairly bad at some of the basics, requiring a trick using shadow clones to use the rasengan where others can do it single handed. So yes, he has the potential to learn many advanced ninjutsu, but whatever we put in the article also needs to consider his faults as well. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 5, 2010 @ 07:33 (UTC) 07:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

True, but you have to admit that Naruto didn't have any motivation in the academy. When Naruto's motivated, he can prove himself to be as talented as Sasuke. It's all about his motivation. That's how he learned Senjutsu, Rasenshuriken and the rest of his abilities. But yeah, Naruto does Slack off sometimes, but he is not a bad learner. A bit of a dumb guy though.....

True about the motivation part. When ever he is motivated he does things that other could'nt. Learned rasengan in 1 week, fourth hokae took three years. Learned rasen shuriken, Fourth hokage and kakashi could'nt do it. Mastered sage mode while he is still young, although it is said that jiraiya trained in between missions he started training when he was around 12 years old he died never mastering it. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 17:05, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto's rank

If Naruto is a hero to Konoha shouldn't his rank be promoted from genin?

He hasn't taken the Chunin exams or was formally promoted. Unless Tsunade or someone walks up to him and says "Hey, you're being promoted. Congrats" he stays a genin.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 22:30, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
The irony is that even thou he is still a genin, he was able to do something that a whole group of chunnin,jonin and a sanin couldt, defeat all six of the paths of pain, the ninja groups were defeated by a single path while Naruto defeated all six, if he dosent get promoted in the future then theres a conspirasy.--Dark Knight Sparda (talk) 04:45, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Just adds insult to injury, really. Both a Jonin and a Sannin struggled to kill one of the paths but then a Genin comes along and kills all six of them. Would be more of a compliment to still consider him a Genin in this instance. :P Gojinn (talk) 03:52, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

uhhh....

what the heck happened to all the jutsu and weapons that naruto uses?????? somebody editt. TIS SERIOUS EDIT NEEDED GUYS!!!—This unsigned comment was made by 202.156.11.240 (talkcontribs) .

There's a problem on the central wiki that is causing the problem in question, we have to wait for them to fix it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:29, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

when

when will the fourth naruto Databook come out? --Rigoberto60 (talk) 04:35, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

OK HERES THE PROB

naruto has all his jutsu included clearly when ONLY manga and anime jutsu should be listed. can somebody sort this out??

We're working on it.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 11:56, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
It's already been fixed. Clear your caches. ~SnapperTo 19:13, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
Everything is still as broken as it was last week. Just a workaround I made (which also happens to be nicer code). Also properties still need to be updated, and job queue ain't on. SimAnt 19:25, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

RELATED?

Is it safe to say that Naruto is related to the First,Second,and Fifth Hokage sense they are part of the Senju clan and Naruto is part of the Uzumaki clan because the Uzumaki and Senju clan are distant relatives.--Rmt0225 (talk) 23:36, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nope. If that was the case, we might as well list Naruto and Madara as being distant cousins. Kinship is too distant to matter. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:41, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

True.I guess your right.--Rmt0225 (talk) 23:45, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Love-life section

Shouldn't there be a love-life/relationship section to state which girls have feelings for Naruto, or just state somewhere in appearance/personality, Naruto influences the lives around him causing many female characters to be attracted to him or something on those lines?.Elvesyou--JS 17:32, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Putting a relationship section would be an invitation for shipping wars, which is something we can all live without. How Naruto interacts with other characters is already established in his personality section. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:37, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, and that is true, wouldn't want to have to deal with NaruHina and NaruSuka arguments.Elvesyou--JS 17:40, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering...

Should we include jutsu that Naruto can use in the game in the infobox? There are way too many jutsu that Naruto doesn't use in the anime and manga. I'm just wondering because it doesn't feel right putting in game jutsu. As for the love-life article which was discussed, I don't see how that should be much of a problem as the page is locked to editing for unregistered people.

Since movies and games isn't a part of the original story, those things doesn't go into the infobox. That includes techniques and natures. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
At the moment, some techniques he uses only in the game show up in the infobox because such techniques were also used by other characters in the manga and anime because Wikia broke some stuff beyond Simant's ability to work around it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Do you have any idea when the central wiki will be back to normal? Oh, and thanks for answering my previous question! —This unsigned comment was made by 218.186.11.240 (talkcontribs) .
I have no idea, but I'm don't keep tabs on what Wikia does, I just know what they do when it affects us. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:40, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

New Picture

Shouldn't a new picture of Naruto be added that is more up-to-date? He is no longer akid, and we probably need to put in a new picture from Season 2. Pacifista15 (talk) 03:55, December 6, 2010 (UTC) For infoboxes we use a picture from their earliest appearance, so they can be recognized from any part of the series. Part II pictures are posted under the part II section. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 04:47, December 6, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Jacce, but don't you think we could get a cooler part 1 picture. I mean, naruto looks a little deranged in the current one. Maybe you could get a pic of naruto with a cooler expression on it.. —This unsigned comment was made by 218.186.11.240 (talkcontribs) .

The problem is, this isn't Naruto as he appears in the present. This is him as a kid, and he is completely different now. This doesn't represent him well, since he doesn't lokk the same.Pacifista15 (talk) 04:41, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Mini Kyuubi Picture

Shouldn't there be a picture of Naruto's mini Kyuubi form when he fails because people would probably get the wrong idea thinking it's like the four-tailed form kind of mini. Amaterasu789 (talk) 00:19, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Already there on Naruto Uzumaki's Jinchūriki Forms. —This unsigned comment was made by 218.186.11.240 (talkcontribs) .

Oh thanks. Sorry I didn't notice. Amaterasu789 (talk) 03:32, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Jutsu List

what is going on in this page? a big part of Naruto's listed techniques are game only techniques. I believe it used to be of common sense that only anime and manga techniques should be a part of the character's infobox. Still, Naruto's jutsu list has some techniques in it like Earth Release: Earth Style Wall or Wind Style: Drilling Air Bullet!

Can somebody correct this, please?84.90.194.208 (talk) 16:13, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

There's a problem on the central wiki which needs to be fixed. We have no idea when it will be fixed. So be patient.
Hooray! Looks like everything's back to normal.

Rank and Level

Can we say that even though Naruto is a Genin, he is a Kage-level ninja, as shown from his ability to kill both Pain and Kakuzu? —This unsigned comment was made by 202.156.11.240 (talkcontribs) .

We list official ranks, and officially, Naruto is a genin. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:54, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
But Omni, Ten ten's like a chunin, and she can't defend herself from a cockroach if her LIFE depended on it. technincally, she's genin - level. We can add the kage-level bit, i'm pretty sure people won't get confused.
His official level is that of a genin, that's what goes in his infobox, there's an entire section in the article describing how powerful he is. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:02, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Change of picture

Why is it that the main picture does not change? Naruto looks stupid in this image, why not use one of when he is older or at least one in which he looks more respectable as one of the strongest ninja. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 00:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome to suggest a new image, but it has to be a Part I image, according to the last section of the image policy. Infobox images have to shown the characters how they were when they were first introduced, so they can be recognized by anyone who is at any point of the plot. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:25, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
leave that to me, i'll suggest a picture from the anime. you guys can put it there in the infobox--Wild Wind of the Leaf
IDEA! you know when tsunade argues with the advisors she has a flashback of naruto when he was a kid? that pic is awesome--Wild Wind of the Leaf
As long as it's a part I image of him, it's eligible, the thing you'll have most trouble with is getting the rest of the community to agree with the image change. Me, for example, see no need to change the current image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:04, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Here is good one from where naruto fights kabuto http://rigoberto60.deviantart.com/art/Naruto-190433934 --Rigoberto60 (talk) 02:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Awful angle. Infobox images have to show the character's face straight on, not in a side view. The best possible image would be something that you can look like an ID card image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:31, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Omni, let's not forget that naruto looks retarded in this pic. Rigoberto, i agree with Omni in reference to that pic. I'll tell you where my suggested picture was found and you decide whether its good or not. I'll give the url in a minute--Wild Wind of the Leaf
Alrighty then, Rigs, Omni. check this out: http://www.narutospot.net/naruto-shippuden/naruto-shippuuden-34/ don't forget, go to 9:30 for the pic--Wild Wind of the Leaf
I don't like the purple/pink background. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
the point, of course, to illustrate the character. the background isn't so bad. stop being so picky--Wild Wind of the Leaf
Eh, that's just my opinion. I'm just saying there are many other images to choose from. Oh and can you please sign your comments. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
That would have made a terrible image. It just...doesn't look like Naruto...--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 04:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
What about this one: http://oi52.tinypic.com/64j920.jpg - From the episode Departure. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
That looks preaty good but the things is that we all have to agree on it. The picture from the video actually looks better but the purple is a little to flashy but that could be edited in photoshop or something --Rigoberto60 (talk) 04:49, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
That new picture is almost slightly better than the one from the video, but is still very bad. I fail to see what exactly is wrong with the current image. It shows Naruto, its clear, it doesn't suck.
I do want to point out, that you can't take an image and photoshop it. That turns it into fanart and we burn that stuff here.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 04:58, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Ultimate3, wat's wrong with the pic i sent. purple backgorund etc. heck wih that! Naruto's meant to be looking cool for god's sake, we can also show him wearing shodai's necklace. I don't see the problem. IT'S THE BEST IMAGE OF NARUTO I'VE SEEN! I mean, he could use that in a passport, if he wanted to!-- Wild Wind of the Leaf
I agree. I have been looking everywhere and the purple back ground image is the best. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 06:12, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the support Rigs. ;)-- Wild Wind of the Leaf
Ok then, can somebody put the image i suggested in the infobox? Or are there MORE objections?-- Wild Wind of the Leaf

He could use the current image as a passport. The point I'm getting at is, that picture is just awful. It looks like an animator screw up, he doesn't look like Naruto.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 12:03, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

you've gotta be kidding me! how is it an anime screw-up? naruto doesn't ALWAYS have a retarded look in his eyes!! what's the problem with the pic i suggested?? You're not giving any reasons here. explain, then i MIGHT accept it--Wild Wind of the Leaf
He looks chubby or something, its hard to explain but he doesn't look like Naruto, he lacks a neck (a lot of his Part I manga images, oddly enough, show him with aw thin neck, which the current image displays just fine). What you call "retarded" I call a focused look, which is fitting to his character, a random colored background from a flashback, which not only is bad, is incredibly out of place, and the quality of the image scene itself pales to what is currently being used.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 13:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
oh well. this debate's going nowhere i suppose. well, ur reasons are valid, ultimate 3, so i'll let the matter rest now. but the picture IS something to think about. See if you can find anything that has the same determined expression yet meets the 'cool' thing that a lot of us are searching for. Like sasuke's current pic. I'll leave the choice to you, alright? end of debate! I don't want to hear about this again! :P--Wild WInd of the Leaf

New Pic and Edit needed

Shouldn't we get a picture of Naruto smashing Kisame into a wall? Oh, and also, in the "Taijutsu" section, it says "Naruto is able to counter a stream of punches and kicks from Deva Path." Notice that "The" is missing. From "the" Deva path. Can someone sort out this edit, and get the picture i suggested? Oh, and when will the fourth databook come out?--Wild Wind of the Leaf

Not really necessary the image, "the" added, next databook should be around sometime next year. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:14, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
But doesn't the image demonstrate the speed and strength of kyubi mode? although i think that sage mode is the best, not many risks once mastered, unlike kyubi mode!--Wild Wind of the Leaf
There's a Nine-Tails mode image of Naruto just after, of him trying to make a Tailed-Beast Rasengan, which is also colored. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:19, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Candidate for Hokage?

In which episode/part of the Manga did it say that several villagers nominated him for Hokage? Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

He was never nominated in any way. There were a group of ninja talking and it was said that he should/would become Hokage. it was either in Ebisu's flashback during hi fight with Hell Realm of during the aftermath of Pain's Invasion--Cerez365 (talk) 02:16, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
Chapter 455 in Samui's flashback a villager says that Naruto should be the new hokage, but he doesn't nominate him.--Deva 27 (talk) 02:19, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I must have misunderstood the part in his Abilities section where the villagers suggested him to become Hokage in Tsunade's place. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

wait, if it suggests that to you when you read it then maybe it needs to be reworded...--Cerez365 (talk) 02:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It said in the section, " He was suggested to be Hokage in Tsunade's place by several villagers following Pain's invasion," even though it was one villager's opinion. I think it should be reworded a little. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Yin-Yang

Someone keeps roll-backing my edits whenever I put under Naruto's Chakra Nature Yin, Yang, Yin-Yang. Therefore, I'm here to discuss the change.

Anyway, I believe that we should add it due to the fact of Naruto's Shadow Clone Jutsu. Is that not a Yin-Yang related Jutsu?--{{subst:Nosubst|Signature/Red Dog31}} 22:28, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Not to our knowledge. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:33, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
Actually it is.--{{subst:Nosubst|Signature/Red Dog31}} 01:05, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
Nope. No official source has ever linked the Shadow Clone Technique to Yin or Yang chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but are you one of those crazed fans obsessed with the Franchise?--{{subst:Nosubst|Signature/Red Dog31}} 04:58, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
Yin-yang chakra was first explained in any amount of detail 12 chapters ago. Nothing about a possible shadow clone-relation is suggested in those 12 chapters. One does not need to be "obsessed" to not pull facts from thin air. Rather, one needs to have read the series at any point in the last three months.
Perhaps you are simply confusing models for how shadow clones function with a yin-yang symbol? ~SnapperTo 05:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Chakra Reserves

I earnestly think this deserves its own section. This trait of Naruto's has been mentioned on several occasions, and is as big an aspect of Naruto's abilities as his Shadow Clones, Rasengan, and Jinchuuriki status. Despite what Ebiso said, Naruto's chakra doesn't stem from the Nine-Tailed Fox; if anything the Nine-Tails is a hindrance when it comes to Naruto's own chakra reserves. Naruto, without any influence from the Nine-Tails, has 100 times more chakra than Kakashi in Part II. Most of that chakra is used to suppress the Nine-Tails, and even then he has more than enough to equal four times Kakashi's chakra levels. With the fact that Naruto's own chakra is used to suppress the Nine-Tailed Fox- which even at 50% (as it is now) is immensely powerful- taken into account, this is certainly a notable trait of Naruto's, and certainly a big enough aspect of his abilities that it deserves its own section.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 20:35, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

What Ebisu said is that because Naruto's chakra suppressing most of the Nine-Tails' Naruto has bad chakra control. The part two thing about Kakashi, the 100x is with the Nine-Tails, not without. You're mixing things up. Remember, that what Naruto's chakra suppress for most of his life was only the chakra that would leak from the seal, which is hardly all of the Yang chakra of the Nine-Tails in him. The seal getting weaker is precisely one of the reasons Naruto in Part II begins to tap into more of the Nine-Tails' chakra, reaching more tails each time. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:48, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
We understand that he does but the fact of the matter is that other people have large chakra reserves as well. A section of this alone would be a one liner and 5 examples is unnecessary in my opinion. If you mention it in the article if it already isn't is then you can add a one or two lines on the matter. Also what do you mean by was an aspect of his Jinchūriki status? --Cerez365 (talk) 20:49, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Mispelling. And while the Ebisu one may be legitimate, as one who just saw the episode where Kakashi said that Naruto has 100 times more chakra than him without the Nine-Tails Fox, I can assure you I'm not mixing things up. And I'm not referring to his jinchuuriki in this; the fact is that Naruto has immense chakra on his own, without the Nine-Tails. Naruto's own chakra, all naturale, no Nine-Tails. And yes, other people have large amounts of chakra, but so far very few of them have Naruto's sheer level of NATURAL chakra. In addition, Naruto's incredible levels of chakra, as said before, is a very big aspect of his capabilities, just as important and relevant as the Shadow Clone technique and the Rasengan.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 21:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
And I just read all the scanlations of chapter 315 I could find, all of them refer to Naruto having 100x Kakashi's chakra if Yamato doesn't suppress the Nine-Tails. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:14, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Scanlations, maybe. But I'll go with official translation over scanlations, which can and have made mistakes.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 21:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Official translations say the same thing as scanlations.
The fact remains that you are dedicating a section to something that needs one, maybe two sentences. The various examples used can easily be converted to refs. ~SnapperTo 21:29, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
It's true. Watch crunchyroll's version of shippuden episode 55, circa 19:00. Crunchyroll is the most official English translation of the anime I have access to. I don't know if the dubbed anime uses the same terms. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:35, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Official translations can make mistakes as easily as scanlations, really. That aside, the raw says that Naruto has four times as much chakra as Kakashi and a hundred times as much if Yamato isn't restraining the Kyūbi. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 21:57, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Viz's manga translation says the same (which is the "official translation" I was referring to). ~SnapperTo 22:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
I do remember the original Weekly Shōnen Jump chapters saying something differently than the subsequent volume releases, though... —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 22:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

So back to the main issue does all of this warrant it's own section in Naruto's article? --Cerez365 (talk) 22:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

  1. Can people please not put indents in front of my comments? I simply don't do that, and someone else doing it makes it feel like someone's editing my messages.
    For translations, I'm referring to several proffessionals who translate the language, then release it for the hundred of thousands to watch; scanlations, on the other hand, have no such proffessional background, and make many literary mistakes and mistranslations. I'll go by the official translation personally, due to credibility.
    If you want to go by sentences "needed" to describe stuff, then all the other sections in Naruto's abilities can be summed up in 2-3 sentences as well. I fail to see how the detail I gave, including actual examples to varify, are any different.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 23:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)