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== How old is Naruto? ==
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== Jinchūriki Status Revisited ==
The latest Chapter 643 states that the Naruto World is currently on the night before Naruto's birthday, which is October 9th. Doing the math, Naruto's age right now should be 16 years and a few months. Or was he never 15 in the first place? Should we make Naruto's age 15-17 now?{{unsigned|Kadio123}}
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Okay. Considering the recent chapters, such as 695 and 696, where Naruto summons a Kurama avatar and is only communicating with Yin-Kurama and no other tailed beasts, is it safe to say Naruto is the jinchūriki of only Yin-Kurama and the pseudo-jinchūriki of the other tailed beasts? Considering he has Kurama the tailed beast within him and just the chakras of the other tailed beasts? • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 16:31, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
:We're not changing his age. The manga says that, in-universe, his birthday is the next day (tomorrow). He's only 16 right now. Everything stays the same until it changes days in the manga. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 03:40, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
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:There is no such thing as "pseudo-jinchuriki", it is a fanmade term. He was called Jinchuriki of all TB by Sasuke. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau ]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:38, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::That was a fanmade term? I thought that was a term used in the anime (considering the whole Sora situation). • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 16:41, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Naruto: Shippūden episode 68 uses the term "人柱力もどき" (jinchūrikimodoki), which is translated as "simulated jinchūriki" in the English TV. It was something introduced in the anime with Sora, but was more-or-less canonized when Kinkaku and Ginkaku were shown to have absorbed Kurama's chakra without being jinchūriki themselves. Also, with Naruto, while only Kurama is sealed inside him the others can manifest in his mental world. [[User:Arawn 999|Arawn 999]] ([[User talk:Arawn 999|talk]]) 16:56, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Tau, what chapter did Sasuke confirm Naruto was in fact the jinchūriki of all tailed beasts? Help me out, I don't remember. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 17:01, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::The Kingin Brothers are called Jinchuriki in the manga. WindStar, it was shortly before the two went off to fight. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:06, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::@Windy, first page of chapter 693. Seel 's right. --[[File:Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg|15px]] [[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 17:17, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Two tabs for long character articles ==
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== Naruto's Powers and Abilities section header: Sasuke ==
[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Naruto_Uzumaki/Archive_12#Tabs_in_articles Sorry for bringing this up again], but I just think we can have two tabs ('Introduction', 'Plot') for long character articles (those that have over 75,000 bytes, more or less), since the plot section on certain characters keeps on growing. This way, we can still use the table of contents. [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 05:23, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
: I'm just going to be honest, I've seen this done before on a wiki I'm apart of, as well as over on the ''Bleach'' wiki and it just doesn't look good. I know, we're not really shooting for looks here, but, trust me, its really doesn't look good anywhere I've seen it. Aside from the visual appearance, its a bit of a hassle for editors, and can get confusing as for what to add where. Let's add to that the fact that its unnecessary. Yes, being the titular character, Naruto has a very long article, but I can load it in less than two seconds on a speedy connection and under a minute on a slow one, like the one I have at college or on my phone's Wi-Fi. I honestly don't think its necessary. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 05:31, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Oh well then, at least I got to say what I want to say. [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 06:03, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I've seen it done on One piece and honestly I would have no problem splitting someone like Naruto or Sasuke's arcs from the appearance abilities and especially personality.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 07:36, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::As another idea related to this, why not do something like Naruto_Uzumaki/Background and Naruto_Uzumaki/Appearance and load them into the page using {{Tlx|Main with-include}} ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 08:34, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::If absolutely necessary, I would prefer Speysider's solution since that seems more consistent with our current design of articles (we use it for Relationships, etc on [[Naruto]]'s page already).''' ~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 10:32, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::: I'm still against it, but, if its is absolutely necessary that we start splitting up articles (we'll have to the same for Obito and Madara soon enough if we start with Naruto and Sasuke), then I too would vote for Speysider's route. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:40, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
What is Speysider's route? But TheUltimate3 would prefer it if we had to move the plot off article, because it would be weird to move background, abilities and personality off page.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:42, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
: You just looooooove referring to yourself in third person, don't you >.> Anyways, if I understand Speysider correctly, and I think I do, he suggest move, say, the plot section (as you advised) to "Naruto Uzumaki/Plot", then, on the main article (this one), in the Plot section, we just use <nowiki>{{Main-with-include}}</nowiki> so that it will give a short blurb on the article, while leaving a "main" link to the new article. That way we don't make the article look tacky with three different tabs hovering at the top like on One Piece Wiki, which, I have to disagree with Cerez on - it looks hideous. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 17:49, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:: Yes as of now I do find that enjoyable. And yes that sounds fine. If someone can whip up a sandbox to see what it looks like, that'll be cool.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:56, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Tabs are a short term solution. Because this article is a mound of garbage large enough to eclipse the sun. To break down its size:
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I hate to be that guy (you probably expected this would happen), but I have to point out that Naruto technically fought Sasuke to a draw. Sasuke did admit defeat, but this was clearly more of an ideological defeat - Naruto managed to thwart Sasuke's plans and change his way of thinking - "bring him back" as he had always said he would. So this was more of a victory of will than a victory of power - as you have definitely seen, both Naruto and Sasuke were left in a practically identical state, so I suggest a slight change of wording to something like "Naruto managed to fight Sasuke to a tie with the latter admitting defeat" or something. This was definitely not like say, Hashirama vs Madara where the victor was clear and apparent. [[User:Xfing|Xfing]] ([[User talk:Xfing|talk]]) 21:33, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:So do you want one of us to remove "Naruto defeated Sasuke" and say something like "Naruto finally convinced and redeemed Sasuke?" or something from [http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sasuke_Uchiha&diff=947422&oldid=947418 ''Sasuke's'' article] as well? • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 21:40, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:: If it was truly a draw, Naruto would have been unconscious at the same time as Sasuke. Instead, he was fully conscious and was waiting for Sasuke to wake up after the clash. Sasuke and the manga flat out says Naruto won the battle ''period'', there was no draw.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:36, October 30, 2014 (UTC)
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| Abilities || 24.5%
 
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| Part I (all) || 11.7%
 
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| Part II (Kazekage → Confining) || 18.6%
 
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| Part II (War → current) || 25.5%
 
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| Everything else (Background, Personality, Appearance, Trivia, Quotes) || 19.6%
 
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Naruto's article is never going to be short, but it can be proportioned better than it currently is. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:20, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
Not sure if this is what's being suggested, but we could do it like they do in the Avatar Wiki. For the really big pages, usually main characters, articles are split per season. We could simply make sub pages for Part I and Part II, and then put an abridged version of the events in the section of the main article, with a link to the sub-page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:38, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
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The fact Naruto refuses to believe there are winners and losers in a fight between friends like they had doesn't change the fact he stayed conscious whilst Sasuke took a nice long nap. He won that fight.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 22:56, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
   
So in essence it's look kinda like Jacce's request page? @Snapper easier said than done. I've personally tried to Marshall the content that people put into articles for Naruto and others like him and no matter what we do sometimes it gets thrown out of proportion by over zealous fan editors then stuff sneaks up on you or else is repeated half a dozen times. I'd be all for cutting some of these enormous articles down to size it's just that at times it's nothing short of a Herculean task.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 06:32, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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Naruto didnt remain conscious, both he and sasuke were unconscious and they woke up at the same time.--[[User:Anamantiumninja|Anamantiumninja]] ([[User talk:Anamantiumninja|talk]]) 03:48, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Yeah, that's the rub. I'd always tell myself that I ''could'' shorten X article/section, but then I'd need to do it again at a later date. Like showering; why bother?
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Maybe an update in his Abilities is in Order? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 00:24, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
:That's why I don't do either anymore.
 
:Although, I wonder if maybe the problem was trying to prune the hedge that others had grown when the real solution was to burn the hedge down and plant a new one.
 
:Quandaries... '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 07:07, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
::[[User:Speysider/Naruto_Uzumaki]]. Created this by just including the Abilities section from the page (I copied the whole contents of the Abilities heading into a subpage of this sandbox page called /Abilities). Thoughts ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 07:13, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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== New Part II image? ==
   
:::As I've already stated, I would rather things like abilities stay on page. But to be quite honest, that can be solved by just having a nonfanboyish approach to his ability section.
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The one we currently have is just flat out terrible. Surely there is a better alternative?--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 22:57, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
:::*Because honestly, the boy does in total Shadow Clones, Nine-Tails chakra, Rasengan, Sage Tech, say what you want but Taijutsu is minor.
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:How so? [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 22:58, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
:::Instead of having an ability section bigger than most articles that section itself could just be trimmed (and when I say trimmed, I mean gutted.).--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:48, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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:: I agree with Reliops(His eyes are drawn wrong way) and must add that first part image too need to be replaced(Naruto's hair drawn incorrectly) [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 23:04, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
::::well if we do this we can attack other articles like these. More than enough of us seem willing to take a hatchet to some of these articles. Gentlemen, to the sandbox? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:28, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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:::Part I image is fine. No need to remove it. This is a discussion about the Part II image. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 23:06, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
:::::@TU3 That was just an example of what would be getting done, I just picked a random section that was fairly long to use to demonstrate it.
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::::As much as i like the image, the angle of his face is slightly off. So surely we could find a suitable replacement, presumably of him during the Kazekage Rescue Arc. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 23:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
:::::@Cerez I agree, there are probably quite a few "large" article that can have similar done to it (Sasuke, Sakura, Kakashi, Tsunade, Obito etc) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:30, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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:::::I saw this [[:File:Naruto Uzumaki2.jpg|image right here]]. The issue with it is, there's no information signifying the episode where this image came from. Unless someone can figure out the episode number, it'll be deleted. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 23:43, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
::::::I see. Either way, well done because that just highlighted how stupid long his ability section has become.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:38, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
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::::: i found this [[:File:Naruto part 2.png|image]] which shows his entire head. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 23:49, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
:::::I don't think cutting all this will do good for the information. The Taijutsu section has became bare bones, doesn't mention the speed and strength increases he has nor does it mention that he's became faster than A, or even any of his taijutsu feats. I get that you're cutting the fat of the article, but it seems like you're purposely cutting the article to make him look weaker or something.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:15, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
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I'd argue both those pictures are terrible (The first one gives off a weird douche bag feel. Don't know why. The second one has a very very stupid glow to it.) and I question what exactly is wrong with current image. But that's all just ol' TheUltimate3 gibberish.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:12, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
::::::"Strength" really loses its meaning when everything is made to seem like an accomplishment. Does Naruto use taijutsu reasonably often? Sure. Is he competent with it? Yes. Is he Rock Lee? Absolutely not. And yet, to read the previous version, he eats rocks for breakfast because he's just that omigosh strong.
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:Yeah, I'm not really feeling the new image because other than the picture glow, Naruto's not giving much a smile and seeing as how he's in a cheerful mood (most of the time), that image doesn't seem to sit too well.--[[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]] 00:36, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
::::::My main issue with the previous version of that section was that almost all of the examples came from when Naruto used senjutsu or some percentage of Kurama. Put another way: there was very little of base-Naruto, which that section should ideally focus on.
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::Then nothing changes? Fine with me. Didn't need to be. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 01:17, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
::::::That's not to say that everything that was cut was bad. The current version is pretty general and would benefit from some examples of Naruto's feats (which could also just be put into refs). I emphasize ''some'' examples, because there do not need to be '''literally eleven examples of how fast Naruto is.''' I really can't overstate how ridiculous that is, and in fact want to itemize it:
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:::Yeah, the current one is as good as we're going to get. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 01:20, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
::::::#Naruto is fast because he saved Sakura.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he restrained Kakashi.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he intercepted Asura Path.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he dodged Third Raikage.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he was thought to use Body Flicker Technique.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he surpassed A.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he moved around a map.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he "blitzed" Third Raikage.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he reacted before Minato.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he outmaneuvered Tailed Beast Balls.
 
::::::#Naruto is fast because he something with Wood Dragon.
 
::::::Use the absolute fastest example and no others. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 05:56, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
:While trimming could help, it still doesn't change the fact the article is long. It can be solved just by employing the use of the {{Tlx|Main with-include}} template and subpages with LST. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 18:43, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
I agree with Snapper. If we start listing abilities, not just here, but the whole site around, by the best known example of that particular skill set, instead of listing every single, minute detail, of every single action that these characters make, the articles would shrink by quite a bit, while retaining the importance of the most significant actions. Most of us are pretty conservative when it comes to adding mentions of abilities, but then there are others that think that every sneeze a character makes needs to be added to their Abilities section, and this just isn't so.
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== The Last: Naruto the Movie ==
   
Like I said to begin with, the page's length isn't really a concern. The series is almost over, he's the main character, its going to be long. The page still loads in under a minute, sometimes within mere seconds, and my connection is pretty crappy, so I know its okay for those of you with higher internet speeds. There really isn't any true need to split this article up. There just isn't. So, while if we ''have'' to do this, I prefer a combination of trimming the fat (all the extra references/examples where they're not needed) and Speysider's method of things, I really think a simple trimming of unneeded or redundant information is the better solution of it all. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 21:53, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Since this will be a canon movie, maybe add to the canon part of this page? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 00:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Tailed Beast Mode Power ==
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== Kekkei Mora subtype to Naruto's infobox? ==
I'd like to include that the manga did show Naruto equaling the combined might of [[Matatabi]], [[Isobu]], [[Kokuo]], [[Saiken]], and [[Chomei]] in the Tailed Beast Ball clash. Something like that couldn't have happened if Naruto was weaker than their combined power. Not only that, he did defeat all five by himself after the clash, pages 12-13 of chapter 572.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:51, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
: He had Gyūki/B's help throughout the fight. Equaling them in power, as far as the Tailed Beast Ball goes, does not mean Naruto is stronger than five Tailed Beasts combined. That is overhyping things at its best. And that will be the last I say on the matter. Anyone else is welcome to comment. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:26, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
:: Gyuki/B helped ''twice'' when Naruto got his own Tailed Beast Mode. And even then, it wasn't needed: Naruto already showed WITHIN the span that B helped that he could have handle himself. And Ten Tailed Fox, you are ignoring that if Naruto had been weaker than the five Tailed Beasts' combined power, his Tailed Beast Ball would have been ''overpowered'' and it both would have been sent flying back to him. And Naruto, as the manga showed, defeated all five at the EXACT. SAME. TIME. In chapter 572 without ANY assistance from B. It isn't overhyping, what you are doing is downplaying a feat.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:30, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
:::I happen to agree with you. It's immense downplaying, to the point of being ignorant or lacking comprehension of what's going on. And if one takes insult to that, I apologize, but it's a blatant lack of care to attention that's causing the issue. Naruto matched the power of the other five Bijuu, context being that he had to neither overpower nor underpower his own. He had to lower his power output. It was a delicate balance, and all dialogue and panels (disregarding the anime for a bit) related show him fighting with relative ease. There's more I could redundantly repeat that I've seen SuperSaiyaMan say regarding the topic spread across the Wikia, but that'd be silly. While I do agree he (SuperSaiyaMan) is hyping it, his stance is valid and points well-founded. I wish this silly argument would end already, though. It's becoming childish with how it's being handled. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 02:42, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
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Since he was using Truth-Seeking Ball, it should be added. Come to think of it, we need an icon now for that!--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:19, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:No. According to Seelentau, from the databook, Naruto's TSB is not a Kekkei Mōra. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 03:21, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:: Its not? What sense does that make?--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:27, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, that's what Tau got from the databook. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 03:35, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::: Has the Truth-seeking Ball page been released then? Linkage?--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:35, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::<s>I'll explain it like this: Roshi and Son Goku can use Lava Release. Son Goku can use the Kekkei Genkai LR, because the advanced nature comes from his "blood," meaning it originates from him. But LR is not a KG for the jinchūriki Roshi because Lava Release doesn't originate from his blood, but from Son Goku's. The tailed beast has the KG, the jinchūriki does not. Same with Kaguya. Kaguya is the Ten-Tails, a tailed beast. The TSB originates from her blood. Naruto is a jinchūriki. The TSB doesn't come from his blood.</s>
   
:::: The point that the Tailed Beast Ball overwhelmed the other beasts' has been noted. But that's all that need be done. SuperSaiyaMan doesn't have to write a paragraph glorifying ninja Jesus Naruto (which is how he makes it sound in his edits) because he did so. He did not overwhelm five Tailed Beasts, he equaled their power, grabbed their necks in the confusion following it, and freed them from Obito. Before the Tailed Beast Ball was used, B/Gyūki was assisting him. Regardless of what you think is "childish", which is irrelevant to begin with, we're trying, as you can see in the section above, to cut down on the over hype that some in this community feel they need to add. Naruto's power and prowess in Tailed Beast Mode are noted, to the point of insanity (almost a play-by-play) in his Ability section. Another paragraph glorifying what the manga already makes obvious is overkill, redundant, pointless (especially when you consider his feat with the Beast Ball is already mentioned), and useless. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:52, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Edit: Okay, we'll take this to the forums. [[Thread:148141#306|Read this comment]] [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 03:58, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
::::: The arguing is childish, and the way it was being handled. People were almost at eachother's necks, from what I could tell, without either one listening or understanding the other. I have no problem cutting down the hype, but that doesn't lessen any other points being made by people, as it seems as was attempting to be done. As to whether Naruto overwhelmed or not, the manga's dialogue and panels seem to reflect he did, but that's a moot point at this current time. To reiterate: there's no issue trimming, but downplaying the valid points made in debates is an entirely different subject, even when it warps what really happened. It also came across, from each side, as very condescending toward the other; quite demeaning. That is the sole reason I even spoke up, otherwise I tend to stay out of arguments. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 03:05, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
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:::: Where in the abilities section was Naruto's Tailed Beast Ball equaled the might of the five others? And as Taynio pointed out, the manga's dialogue and panels reflected he did defeat all five afterwards. And if Naruto could equal the combined power from the five of them, why shouldn't that be the same as being as strong as five of them? To me, it seems like the same thing. And I have no problem with the trimming either, it just the way its been happening has acted like a huge downplay to Naruto from what we saw in the manga.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:12, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
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So who is the one standing and laughing in the end, eh, Narutards? ^_--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:31, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Just to explain this once again (you can link this to everyone then):<br />
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In the new databook, the characters have little icons in their profiles, showing different attributes they have (Jinchuriki, Senjutsu, Kuchiyose, Kekkei Genkai etc.). Among these icons is one for Kekkei Mora. Naruto, who has the icons "Jinchuriki", "Senjutsu" and "Kuchiyose", does not have the Kekkei Mora icon. Unless the TSB article explains it in another way, it means that Naruto doesn't use Kekkei Mora and his TSB is no Kekkei Mora. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:47, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yup, because it's Wind Release _^--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:03, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::Who knows. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:06, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Tau's correct. His elements are still up in the air. Hopefully the databook addresses that. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 15:16, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::I thought it already did and he has just Wind listed?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:27, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::Yes, but he also has the TB's natures. He could use them in the TSB. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:29, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::^^^That much I agree with. And FF-Suzaku confirmed Naruto has Yin-Yang Release from Hagoromo's power. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 15:37, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Maybe he doesn't anymore. He used the palm tattoo to do his Jesus wonders, but he no longer has it.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:42, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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This data book doesn't seem to make much sense based on initial translations. It's probably best to wait for it to be out in its entirety.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 19:01, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
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== Boil release ==
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Forgive me ignorance, but I've got no clue where Naruto got Boil release. Did he use it in a rasenshuriken? I thought he only used Magnet and Lava in the rasenshuriken... [[User:Derigar2|Derigar2]] ([[User talk:Derigar2|talk]]) 08:17, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:He got it from [[Kokuō]] and used it to escape from the ice when fighting Kaguya. He also used nine different types of rasenshuriken against Kaguya at the same time, all which had different compositions.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 08:33, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:The latest Databook reveals that Kokuō (Five-Tails) has Boil Release. When Naruto used [[Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken]], one of his Rasenshuriken was Boil Release.--[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 08:37, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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Why doesn't that technique say it uses Boil release then? [[User:Derigar2|Derigar2]] ([[User talk:Derigar2|talk]]) 10:49, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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== Kekkei Genkai ==
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Ok now it's confirmed by new data book that Naruto is both "Jinchuuriki", "Kekkei Genkai" user and having all basic natures in his box. As well as instead of "tailed beast skill" Bijuu use simple ninjutsu. I think Naruto must have Kekkei Genkai field in his infobox./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 10:44, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:Why don't other jinchuuriki have it tho?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:45, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:: Other jinchuuriki not have been listed at all(in way as Naruto) exept Gaara, while their jutsu listed as KKG(Roshi's Lava Release is listed as a Kekkei Genkai. "It's a technique of Four Tails' original Jinchuriki, Roshi." = 四尾の元人柱力・老紫の術だ。- FF-Suzaku)./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 12:56, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
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== Mokuton ==
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Prosthetic forearm made from Hashirama DNA do we list him??([[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 13:40, November 6, 2014 (UTC))
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:Not until he starts throwing out Wood Release.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:48, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::Orochimaru didn't either, just saying.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:50, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Good point. Think for Orochimaru it had more to do with how his Reincarnation crap worked.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:54, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Unconfirmed prosthetic forearm, or did I miss something? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:00, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::So you suppose that Naruto's got back his arm in a different way and Sasuke was offered a Hash arm alternative for teh lulz?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:08, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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Unconfirmed yes but lets try and not be silly with this. Tsunade wouldn't just offer a fully developed arm to Sasuke and then look at Naruto and say the best of luck. Implications are there that Tsunade is making new arms for both of them.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:11, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:Jesus fuck Elve, how often do I have to explain to you that I never, ''ever'', '''EVER''' suppose ''anything''? If you guys are saying X, then I'm not saying that X is definitely wrong and Y is true, but only that X is not confirmed. I am not the opposite of you guys, I am the middle of every possibility, as long as nothing is confirmed. -.- • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:14, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::I think it's safe to say that Naruto's got Hash arm. If Naruto's arm had been restored some other way, then Sasuke would have been offered the same procedure as him, rather than an alternative--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:31, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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== Impact ==
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Maybe we should add how he has affected the world? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 18:36, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:no. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:38, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::Something like a legacy section, except it's while he's alive? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 18:42, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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Everyone already knows his effects on the world and it would just be a junk section. he's alive so no legacy section for him. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 18:43, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::There is no reason why he shouldn't have a legacy section (that is, once he dies, to keep to the narutopedia tradition), and because you know the impact he had on the world doesn't mean it shouldn't be penned down. [[User:NoJutsu|NoJutsu]] ([[User talk:NoJutsu|talk]]) 23:31, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
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Has the new jutsu he adapted from his dad been added to Naruto's Ninjutsu skills? {{Unsigned|William000}}
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== Spoilers ==
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So what is the deal with the people on this wiki? Some sysops say to keep spoilers at a minimum, yet now your allowing the biggest spoiler of the series to be present within the introduction of the article? [[User:DazzlingEmerald|DazzlingEmerald]] ([[User talk:DazzlingEmerald|talk]]) 17:48, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:The series has ended. There are no spoilers anymore. If you decide not to read the Japanese chapters, its your choice, not our fault. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:12, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:: That is why there is a huge ass warning on the front page of our wiki that warns of spoilers. The spoiler policy refers to posting things about chapters/episodes/ect., before they are officially released/announced. It does not restrict information that has come out in some format. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 18:14, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
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== Video Game Section ==
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Naruto been playable in every game? Couldn't we just set up a link to http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Video_games instead of having a page length table? That would be one way of trimming up the article. --<span style="background:#FFA500">[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]])</span> 17:41, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:Bump --<span style="background:#FFA500">[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]])</span> 02:11, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
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::I understand your point, so you want to make page look short? but creating a link for that has no meaning, just because Naruto is playable character in all games, doesn't mean all characters are playable for every game, so it would not be correct to link a common page for all characters, If you create a common link for Naruto you would have to make a link for all characters. So you have to change manual of style for all characters page, to make all page look like in similar format. [[User:Naruto uzu6254|Naruto uzu6254]] ([[User talk:Naruto uzu6254|talk]]) 10:04, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
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== Family List ==
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so I've been looking at the character profiles just for Shits and Gigs but I've noticed something that I'm confused about, in the family section for Characters like Naruto, Hinata, and Himawari there is a family member missing in that list (Bolt/Boruto is missing from Narutos, Hinatas, and Himawaris) I would put this on all the talk pages, but I feel it would be semi-redundant and take up too much time and space. but anyways what I'm trying to get at is was there some reason those names are missing (in the character summaries on there pages it still mentions them as being a family (on Bolt/Borutos page it mentions in the summary that Naruto is his dad, but in his family box on the template thing it doesn't, etc.) in other words was it removed by an Admin/Mod for some reason (and if so what reason would that be) or is it just a case of Wiki Vandalism that needs to be fixed? anyways just thought I would mention it to see if there was some problem here (I've been seeing some other problems around the Wiki also like Info box templates displaying numerous error messages and expanding to fit most of the alloted page space and stuff among other things (I have reported those problems on the proper pages though, so don't get after me for mentioning it here)) so yeah, is there some kind of problem here or is it just my computer acting strangely?
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[[User:Lordofninjas1|Lordofninjas1]] ([[User talk:Lordofninjas1|talk]]) 20:08, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:They will appear eventually, just wait--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:13, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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are you sure they will? what if they don't? you probably didn't think about that, but it could actually happen (not trying to be annoying or anything, just stating the possibilities and possible facts here).
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[[User:Lordofninjas1|Lordofninjas1]] ([[User talk:Lordofninjas1|talk]]) 21:25, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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== Hyuuga clan ==
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Shouldn't we add in a clan section also Hyuuga clan? In Hinata's clan section are Uzumaki and Hyuuga clans. So why shouldn't we add Hyuuga clan into Naruto's section? Their children have both clans in their sections so why Naruto doesn't have a Hyuuga clan? They are family. [[User:TheMissUzumaki|TheMissUzumaki]] ([[w:c:doom:User talk:TheMissUzumaki|talk]])
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:For same reason why Hashirama and Minato didn't get Uzumaki clan. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 04:35, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
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::And may I ask what is it? [[User:TheMissUzumaki|TheMissUzumaki]] ([[w:c:doom:User talk:TheMissUzumaki|talk]])
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:::In the real world, when woman marry, they take their husband's last name and/or marry into their husband's clan, not the other way around. For example, when Hashirama married Mito, Mito married into the Senju clan, but Hashirama didn't marry into the Uzumaki clan. Same reasoning applies everywhere else. So no, Naruto is not part of the Hyūga clan (though Hinata is part of the Uzumaki clan). ~•[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WS7125'''''</font>]]<sub><span title="This user helps the wiki by moderating the forums and the chat">[Mod]</span></sub>[[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]][[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 04:54, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
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::::In the continent of Asia, the laws of marriage stated since forever that a man has nothing (no connection!) with his wife's family. --[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 05:50, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
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== Naruto's rank in The Last ==
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Are you sure he's still a genin and not a higher rank in The Last?--[[User:Solidedub|Solidedub]] ([[User talk:Solidedub|talk]]) 17:47, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
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:Yes. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:48, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
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== Wood Release ==
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Cant you say Naruto presumably have the wood release?--[[User:Solidedub|Solidedub]] ([[User talk:Solidedub|talk]]) 18:28, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

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Jinchūriki Status Revisited Edit

Okay. Considering the recent chapters, such as 695 and 696, where Naruto summons a Kurama avatar and is only communicating with Yin-Kurama and no other tailed beasts, is it safe to say Naruto is the jinchūriki of only Yin-Kurama and the pseudo-jinchūriki of the other tailed beasts? Considering he has Kurama the tailed beast within him and just the chakras of the other tailed beasts? • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 16:31, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

There is no such thing as "pseudo-jinchuriki", it is a fanmade term. He was called Jinchuriki of all TB by Sasuke. • Seelentau 愛 16:38, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
That was a fanmade term? I thought that was a term used in the anime (considering the whole Sora situation). • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 16:41, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
Naruto: Shippūden episode 68 uses the term "人柱力もどき" (jinchūrikimodoki), which is translated as "simulated jinchūriki" in the English TV. It was something introduced in the anime with Sora, but was more-or-less canonized when Kinkaku and Ginkaku were shown to have absorbed Kurama's chakra without being jinchūriki themselves. Also, with Naruto, while only Kurama is sealed inside him the others can manifest in his mental world. Arawn 999 (talk) 16:56, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
Tau, what chapter did Sasuke confirm Naruto was in fact the jinchūriki of all tailed beasts? Help me out, I don't remember. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 17:01, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
The Kingin Brothers are called Jinchuriki in the manga. WindStar, it was shortly before the two went off to fight. • Seelentau 愛 17:06, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
@Windy, first page of chapter 693. Seel 's right. --Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 17:17, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto's Powers and Abilities section header: Sasuke Edit

I hate to be that guy (you probably expected this would happen), but I have to point out that Naruto technically fought Sasuke to a draw. Sasuke did admit defeat, but this was clearly more of an ideological defeat - Naruto managed to thwart Sasuke's plans and change his way of thinking - "bring him back" as he had always said he would. So this was more of a victory of will than a victory of power - as you have definitely seen, both Naruto and Sasuke were left in a practically identical state, so I suggest a slight change of wording to something like "Naruto managed to fight Sasuke to a tie with the latter admitting defeat" or something. This was definitely not like say, Hashirama vs Madara where the victor was clear and apparent. Xfing (talk) 21:33, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

So do you want one of us to remove "Naruto defeated Sasuke" and say something like "Naruto finally convinced and redeemed Sasuke?" or something from Sasuke's article as well? • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 21:40, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
If it was truly a draw, Naruto would have been unconscious at the same time as Sasuke. Instead, he was fully conscious and was waiting for Sasuke to wake up after the clash. Sasuke and the manga flat out says Naruto won the battle period, there was no draw.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:36, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

The fact Naruto refuses to believe there are winners and losers in a fight between friends like they had doesn't change the fact he stayed conscious whilst Sasuke took a nice long nap. He won that fight.--Reliops (talk) 22:56, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto didnt remain conscious, both he and sasuke were unconscious and they woke up at the same time.--Anamantiumninja (talk) 03:48, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe an update in his Abilities is in Order? Justin Holland (talk) 00:24, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

New Part II image? Edit

The one we currently have is just flat out terrible. Surely there is a better alternative?--Reliops (talk) 22:57, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

How so? • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 22:58, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Reliops(His eyes are drawn wrong way) and must add that first part image too need to be replaced(Naruto's hair drawn incorrectly) Rage gtx (talk) 23:04, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
Part I image is fine. No need to remove it. This is a discussion about the Part II image. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 23:06, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
As much as i like the image, the angle of his face is slightly off. So surely we could find a suitable replacement, presumably of him during the Kazekage Rescue Arc. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
I saw this image right here. The issue with it is, there's no information signifying the episode where this image came from. Unless someone can figure out the episode number, it'll be deleted. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 23:43, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
i found this image which shows his entire head. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:49, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I'd argue both those pictures are terrible (The first one gives off a weird douche bag feel. Don't know why. The second one has a very very stupid glow to it.) and I question what exactly is wrong with current image. But that's all just ol' TheUltimate3 gibberish.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 00:12, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not really feeling the new image because other than the picture glow, Naruto's not giving much a smile and seeing as how he's in a cheerful mood (most of the time), that image doesn't seem to sit too well.--SSJ2AJB 00:36, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
Then nothing changes? Fine with me. Didn't need to be. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 01:17, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, the current one is as good as we're going to get. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 01:20, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

The Last: Naruto the Movie Edit

Since this will be a canon movie, maybe add to the canon part of this page? Justin Holland (talk) 00:36, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Kekkei Mora subtype to Naruto's infobox? Edit

Since he was using Truth-Seeking Ball, it should be added. Come to think of it, we need an icon now for that!--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:19, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

No. According to Seelentau, from the databook, Naruto's TSB is not a Kekkei Mōra. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 03:21, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Its not? What sense does that make?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:27, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, that's what Tau got from the databook. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 03:35, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Has the Truth-seeking Ball page been released then? Linkage?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:35, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
I'll explain it like this: Roshi and Son Goku can use Lava Release. Son Goku can use the Kekkei Genkai LR, because the advanced nature comes from his "blood," meaning it originates from him. But LR is not a KG for the jinchūriki Roshi because Lava Release doesn't originate from his blood, but from Son Goku's. The tailed beast has the KG, the jinchūriki does not. Same with Kaguya. Kaguya is the Ten-Tails, a tailed beast. The TSB originates from her blood. Naruto is a jinchūriki. The TSB doesn't come from his blood.
Edit: Okay, we'll take this to the forums. Read this commentWindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 03:58, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

So who is the one standing and laughing in the end, eh, Narutards? ^_--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:31, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Just to explain this once again (you can link this to everyone then):
In the new databook, the characters have little icons in their profiles, showing different attributes they have (Jinchuriki, Senjutsu, Kuchiyose, Kekkei Genkai etc.). Among these icons is one for Kekkei Mora. Naruto, who has the icons "Jinchuriki", "Senjutsu" and "Kuchiyose", does not have the Kekkei Mora icon. Unless the TSB article explains it in another way, it means that Naruto doesn't use Kekkei Mora and his TSB is no Kekkei Mora. • Seelentau 愛 14:47, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, because it's Wind Release _^--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 15:03, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Who knows. • Seelentau 愛 15:06, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Tau's correct. His elements are still up in the air. Hopefully the databook addresses that. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 15:16, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
I thought it already did and he has just Wind listed?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 15:27, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but he also has the TB's natures. He could use them in the TSB. • Seelentau 愛 15:29, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
^^^That much I agree with. And FF-Suzaku confirmed Naruto has Yin-Yang Release from Hagoromo's power. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 15:37, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe he doesn't anymore. He used the palm tattoo to do his Jesus wonders, but he no longer has it.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 15:42, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

This data book doesn't seem to make much sense based on initial translations. It's probably best to wait for it to be out in its entirety.--Reliops (talk) 19:01, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Boil release Edit

Forgive me ignorance, but I've got no clue where Naruto got Boil release. Did he use it in a rasenshuriken? I thought he only used Magnet and Lava in the rasenshuriken... Derigar2 (talk) 08:17, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

He got it from Kokuō and used it to escape from the ice when fighting Kaguya. He also used nine different types of rasenshuriken against Kaguya at the same time, all which had different compositions.--Soul reaper (talk) 08:33, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
The latest Databook reveals that Kokuō (Five-Tails) has Boil Release. When Naruto used Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken, one of his Rasenshuriken was Boil Release.--Questionaredude (talk) 08:37, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Why doesn't that technique say it uses Boil release then? Derigar2 (talk) 10:49, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Kekkei Genkai Edit

Ok now it's confirmed by new data book that Naruto is both "Jinchuuriki", "Kekkei Genkai" user and having all basic natures in his box. As well as instead of "tailed beast skill" Bijuu use simple ninjutsu. I think Naruto must have Kekkei Genkai field in his infobox./ Rage gtx (talk) 10:44, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Why don't other jinchuuriki have it tho?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 12:45, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
Other jinchuuriki not have been listed at all(in way as Naruto) exept Gaara, while their jutsu listed as KKG(Roshi's Lava Release is listed as a Kekkei Genkai. "It's a technique of Four Tails' original Jinchuriki, Roshi." = 四尾の元人柱力・老紫の術だ。- FF-Suzaku)./ Rage gtx (talk) 12:56, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Mokuton Edit

Prosthetic forearm made from Hashirama DNA do we list him??(Kuroiraikou (talk) 13:40, November 6, 2014 (UTC))

Not until he starts throwing out Wood Release.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:48, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Orochimaru didn't either, just saying.--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 13:50, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Good point. Think for Orochimaru it had more to do with how his Reincarnation crap worked.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 13:54, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Unconfirmed prosthetic forearm, or did I miss something? • Seelentau 愛 14:00, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
So you suppose that Naruto's got back his arm in a different way and Sasuke was offered a Hash arm alternative for teh lulz?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:08, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Unconfirmed yes but lets try and not be silly with this. Tsunade wouldn't just offer a fully developed arm to Sasuke and then look at Naruto and say the best of luck. Implications are there that Tsunade is making new arms for both of them.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 14:11, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Jesus fuck Elve, how often do I have to explain to you that I never, ever, EVER suppose anything? If you guys are saying X, then I'm not saying that X is definitely wrong and Y is true, but only that X is not confirmed. I am not the opposite of you guys, I am the middle of every possibility, as long as nothing is confirmed. -.- • Seelentau 愛 14:14, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
I think it's safe to say that Naruto's got Hash arm. If Naruto's arm had been restored some other way, then Sasuke would have been offered the same procedure as him, rather than an alternative--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 14:31, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Impact Edit

Maybe we should add how he has affected the world? Justin Holland (talk) 18:36, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

no. Munchvtec (talk) 18:38, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Something like a legacy section, except it's while he's alive? Justin Holland (talk) 18:42, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Everyone already knows his effects on the world and it would just be a junk section. he's alive so no legacy section for him. Munchvtec (talk) 18:43, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

There is no reason why he shouldn't have a legacy section (that is, once he dies, to keep to the narutopedia tradition), and because you know the impact he had on the world doesn't mean it shouldn't be penned down. NoJutsu (talk) 23:31, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Has the new jutsu he adapted from his dad been added to Naruto's Ninjutsu skills? —This unsigned comment was made by William000 (talkcontribs) .

Spoilers Edit

So what is the deal with the people on this wiki? Some sysops say to keep spoilers at a minimum, yet now your allowing the biggest spoiler of the series to be present within the introduction of the article? DazzlingEmerald (talk) 17:48, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

The series has ended. There are no spoilers anymore. If you decide not to read the Japanese chapters, its your choice, not our fault. • Seelentau 愛 18:12, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
That is why there is a huge ass warning on the front page of our wiki that warns of spoilers. The spoiler policy refers to posting things about chapters/episodes/ect., before they are officially released/announced. It does not restrict information that has come out in some format. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 18:14, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Video Game Section Edit

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Naruto been playable in every game? Couldn't we just set up a link to http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Video_games instead of having a page length table? That would be one way of trimming up the article. --Questionaredude (talk) 17:41, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Bump --Questionaredude (talk) 02:11, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
I understand your point, so you want to make page look short? but creating a link for that has no meaning, just because Naruto is playable character in all games, doesn't mean all characters are playable for every game, so it would not be correct to link a common page for all characters, If you create a common link for Naruto you would have to make a link for all characters. So you have to change manual of style for all characters page, to make all page look like in similar format. Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 10:04, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Family List Edit

so I've been looking at the character profiles just for Shits and Gigs but I've noticed something that I'm confused about, in the family section for Characters like Naruto, Hinata, and Himawari there is a family member missing in that list (Bolt/Boruto is missing from Narutos, Hinatas, and Himawaris) I would put this on all the talk pages, but I feel it would be semi-redundant and take up too much time and space. but anyways what I'm trying to get at is was there some reason those names are missing (in the character summaries on there pages it still mentions them as being a family (on Bolt/Borutos page it mentions in the summary that Naruto is his dad, but in his family box on the template thing it doesn't, etc.) in other words was it removed by an Admin/Mod for some reason (and if so what reason would that be) or is it just a case of Wiki Vandalism that needs to be fixed? anyways just thought I would mention it to see if there was some problem here (I've been seeing some other problems around the Wiki also like Info box templates displaying numerous error messages and expanding to fit most of the alloted page space and stuff among other things (I have reported those problems on the proper pages though, so don't get after me for mentioning it here)) so yeah, is there some kind of problem here or is it just my computer acting strangely? Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:08, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

They will appear eventually, just wait--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 20:13, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

are you sure they will? what if they don't? you probably didn't think about that, but it could actually happen (not trying to be annoying or anything, just stating the possibilities and possible facts here). Lordofninjas1 (talk) 21:25, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hyuuga clan Edit

Shouldn't we add in a clan section also Hyuuga clan? In Hinata's clan section are Uzumaki and Hyuuga clans. So why shouldn't we add Hyuuga clan into Naruto's section? Their children have both clans in their sections so why Naruto doesn't have a Hyuuga clan? They are family. TheMissUzumaki (talk)

For same reason why Hashirama and Minato didn't get Uzumaki clan. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 04:35, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
And may I ask what is it? TheMissUzumaki (talk)
In the real world, when woman marry, they take their husband's last name and/or marry into their husband's clan, not the other way around. For example, when Hashirama married Mito, Mito married into the Senju clan, but Hashirama didn't marry into the Uzumaki clan. Same reasoning applies everywhere else. So no, Naruto is not part of the Hyūga clan (though Hinata is part of the Uzumaki clan). ~•WS7125[Mod]WindStar7125 TaskWindStar7125's Task 04:54, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
In the continent of Asia, the laws of marriage stated since forever that a man has nothing (no connection!) with his wife's family. --Hisana456 (talk) 05:50, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto's rank in The Last Edit

Are you sure he's still a genin and not a higher rank in The Last?--Solidedub (talk) 17:47, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. • Seelentau 愛 17:48, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Wood Release Edit

Cant you say Naruto presumably have the wood release?--Solidedub (talk) 18:28, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

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