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== monkier ==
   
== New OVA Naruto vs Konohamaru ==
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Do you think we can add ¨Proud Failure¨ to the moniker list? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 22:49, July 9, 2015 (UTC)
   
Naruto and Konohamaru are now chunin they competed in a chunin exams in Sunagakure and even though Konohamaru won Naruto was also promoted to chunin bcuz of his deeds in the past( saving Konoha several times...etc.--[[User:Narutonerd123|Narutonerd123]] ([[User talk:Narutonerd123|talk]]) 23:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC)[http://www.narutoget.com/watch/934-naruto-shippuden-movie-5-blood-prison/] Watch the new episode on the bottom.--[[User:Narutonerd123|Narutonerd123]] ([[User talk:Narutonerd123|talk]]) 23:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
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*Hello? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 18:00, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:When was he called that?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:29, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
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::Before his match with Neji, from Hinata. [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 18:31, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I wouldn't list him as that, does not sound as if it would've been of so much importance. But if we actually would do so, then we should also include Sasuke's "Dr. Snake". [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 18:49, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
It's not canon--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:42, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
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== kekkei genkai ==
   
== Dark Naruto image discussion ==
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Unless I'm mistaken, he used Lava, Magnet, Boil using chakras of the Tailed Beasts, does it make sense to list them in his infobox? Kekkei Genkai means bloodline limit, it's not part of his genetic makeup to use those advanced natures.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 00:03, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:But he used them anyhow, and those advanced natures are KKG. The TB chakra he's utilises are a part of him now. And anyway, who's to say Lava Release was really part of Rōshi's genetic make-up? What Han and Boil Release? Simply put, the TB's chakra is part of Naruto now.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 00:07, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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::The databook says that about Roshi. :| • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 00:11, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Okay. But is that uniform? Yes or no, the advanced natures in question are KKG anyway. If you can use it, you can utilise the KKG. The chakra's are a part of Naruto now.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 00:17, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Are they?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 00:18, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
Which one is better: the current one or my proposal ? I am simply wanting to see what the community thinks since I found the current one to be quite blurry in the lightbox. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 16:55, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
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:::::The difference is that he doesn't have the kekkei genkai that is the genetical makeup. He only has the kekkei genkai that is the resulting ability. Roshi had both. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 00:20, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
:Actually there's almost no difference except the current is closer. (add) They are almost of the same quality. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My Wiki]]) 17:01, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
::The proposal one seems alright.--[[User:White Flash|'''''White Flash''''']] [[File:Samurai Symbol.svg|link=|20px]] [[User talk:White Flash|<sup>'''Talk'''</sup>]] 19:36, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::The current image looks a bit blurr to me. So I am with the proposed image. —[[w:c:naruto:User:Salil dabholkar|¤<big>S</big>@lil ¤]] [[File:Uchiha Symbol.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Salil dabholkar|(T@lk)]] 15:05, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Yep, the proposal seems better. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My]] [[w:c:phoenixrising|Wiki]]) 16:15, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
=== Revival ===
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Naruto doesn't have those kekkei genkai any more than his friends are users of Rasengan and are jinchuuriki. He even had to yell: "x TB do it" how is that him having the KKGs?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 00:22, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
Bringing this discussion up again, which image is better for use ? I still feel the existing one is blurred. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 13:26, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
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:I understand the difference clearly. And I'm taking your word for it regarding Rōshi, but my question still hasn't been answered. Is Rōshi's case uniform amongst all the jinchuriki? And quite frankly, where's the relevance really? The TB's chakra are/were (depends on who you ask) part of Naruto. He utilised the KKG, so a removal would be wrong. That's how I see it. I get what you're saying though. Oh and Elve, Chap. 673, page 4 Naruto asked Son to lend him chakra. That's as far as Son went. Big difference from what you're claiming.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 00:31, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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::How does Roshi giving Naruto his Lava Release chakra make Naruto having Lava Release Kekkei Genkai?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 00:33, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:Same way Hagoromo gifted Sasuke the Six Paths Yin Seal and SP chakra and Sasuke's listed as a user of both. Naruto used the KKG, transferred it into his Rasenshuriken, and everything. It's part of his arsenal. That's all there is to it.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 00:39, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:::@Elve, Roshi is jinchuriki of Son Goku - the beast. Anyway even if Naruto lost chakra of other TB(which is arguable) he will still have KKG same way Kakashi has Sharingan and Madara has Rinne Sharingan - historically - and why people forget that Naruto has KKG characteristic in DB? ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 02:21, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Unknow Jutsu ==
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== Mode cont. ==
   
What is the Jutsu that Naruto still hasn't completed yet? I know Jiraiya told him not to do it and when he got the Key to the Seal he was told he could complete it now. {{unsigned|74.233.29.63}}
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His mode in Gaiden can't be Six Paths Sage Mode because it lacks the distinct markings and Truth-Seeking Balls. I believe it's Tailed Beast Sage Mode enhanced with/by Six Paths chakra. Why? Because when he re-entered to fight Madara, his normal Sage Mode lacked pigmentation around the eyes too and that was ''before'' he activated Six Paths Sage Mode. Sasuke noted towards the end of their last fight that his Tailed Beast chakra gifts were running out, just before he created two large Rasenshuriken variations. Also, his usage of Six Paths chakra in The Last certainly confirms he still has that. [[User:Pesa123456789|Pesa123456789]] ([[User talk:Pesa123456789|talk]]) 18:13, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:When does he use Six Paths chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu in The Last?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:14, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
   
It's the tailed beast ball? Right?
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== Video Games ==
[[Special:Contributions/166.147.89.155|166.147.89.155]] ([[User talk:166.147.89.155|talk]]) 02:37, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
:It's not the Tailed Beast Ball as Killer Bee tried to teach him that. We currently don't know what it is as it's not named on [[That Technique| this page]]. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 03:33, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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Is Naruto playable in every game? If so, under Video Games, couldn't we just say something along the lines of "he's playable in every game" instead of listing each individual game. It would make the longest article on the wiki a tiny bit shorter. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 02:36, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
Pretty sure Jiraiya told him 'not to use that power', i.e Kurama's chakra. About all we know about this unknown technique is that Minato created it, laying the foundation on which Jiraiya and Naruto would further develop it, and that to use it Naruto had to first gain control of Kurama's chakra. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 04:18, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:Because of how page size is calculated, it would take the page from its current "length" of 219,269 bytes to 219,253 bytes. Actually, if an explanation saying Naruto is playable in every game were added, that would technically make the article "longer". Load times would probably be improved though.
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:Although I will say that the table is pretty ridiculous at this point. So is the movie section, which is illegible. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 16:55, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Naruto and the war ==
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== Prosthetic arm ==
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Can we say he was able to receive that arm from being since he and Hashirama were from the same linage and that's why his body did not reject the arm?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 22:11, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
   
I've been watching the anime and in it Naruto is aware of the war. But is he aware of this fact in the manga?--{{unsigned|108.132.105.48}}
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== New epilogue pic ==
:He knows there's going to be a war if I remember correctly. He didn't know that it had started already though.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:25, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== wind nature missed up ==
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Maybe we should get a anime pic for his epilogue pic? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 00:01, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
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:Was curious about the same.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:10, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
   
like it says where naruto's wind nature is its all weird and i dont know how to fix it can someone help??[[Special:Contributions/67.54.176.39|67.54.176.39]] ([[User talk:67.54.176.39|talk]]) 18:05, July 4, 2012 (UTC)NaruFan
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== for the final time ==
:Probably a code problem brought on by the recent update Wikia is performing on the software. They usually synch their version with the most current version of the software from time to time. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
It will fix itself, I see it as well--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:31, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
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Naruto is not, was not, has not ever been jinchuuriki of Shukaki, Matatabi, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Saiken, Chomei, Gyuki. Their presence in Naruto's mental plane didn't mean he had been their jinchuuriki, otherwise we should classify Naruto as a jinchuuriki of Minato, Kushina, Killer B, Yugito Nii, Yagura, Roshi, Han, Utakata, Fu and Hagoromo himself.
   
== Japanese Alphabets -- Names ==
 
   
Under Naruto's "profile picture" is a list of his name and nicknames, and after each name is the Japanese-alphabetical name in parentheses. Just curious, why is "Uzumaki" written in Hiragana while "Naruto" is written in Katakana? --[[User:Kinggraham11|Kinggraham11]] ([[User talk:Kinggraham11|talk]]) 22:03, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
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If Naruto had been their jinchuuriki, Madara would have extracted 7 Tailed Beasts out of Naruto, not just Kurama, not to mention Naruto wouldn't have been dying because he still would have been a jinchuuriki without Kurama if he had the other 6 at the time. The terminology in the series is sometimes used very loosely and incorrect statements or assumptions and half-truths were given, it's written realistically from the characters' perspectives, they have knowledge of some things and don't have of others, or their knowledge is limited. We as readers aren't supposed to take every single word at face value without taking into account context and the fact that each character is written as a distinct individual with different knowledge, personality etc. Sasuke calling Naruto jinchuuriki of all the Tailed Beasts wasn't literal, his knowledge of what jinchuuriki and a Tailed Beast are is minimal. I have debunked this above using logic, now for some facts: in The Last, Gaiden and presumably (yet to see it) Boruto movie, any other Tailed Beast besides Kurama are within Naruto completely absent, unless they are playing hide and seek.
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In The Last, only Kurama appears inside of Naruto's mental plane and otherwise. In Gaiden, only Kurama was there staring at young Shin clone, not other 8 huge monsters. Apparently in Boruto, Shiki notes Naruto is jinchuuriki of Kurama, not of all 9.
   
==Jinchuuriki Vs. Heritage==
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My pleasure.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 09:36, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Given [[Kabuto Yakushi|Kabuto]]'s recent statement that members of the [[Uzumaki clan]] have high vitality, longevity, and strong regenerative capabilities, is it possible that Naruto's accelerated healing is his own natural ability, rather that a result of being [[Kurama]]'s [[Jinchuuriki]]? If memory serves [[Kakashi Hatake|Kakashi]] was the only one to say that it was the nine-tails, and it may have just been a theory. {{unsigned|Arch angel gabriele}}
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AKA I am right but Kishi is wrong. The gall of fans on this site sometimes.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 09:46, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
:Both add up to it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:01, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
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:Kishi didn't say anything like that to my knowledge. He wrote Sasuke say that, read above. Not every statement in the manga is factual.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 09:55, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::I think what Elve means is that Naruto isn't a Jinchūriki of the other 8 beasts, but a Pseudo-Jinchūriki, as he has their chakra, but not their bodies sealed in. And I think we previously had it listed as that, don't know why it was changed tho.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:03, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Gimme chapters and I translate statements about this. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:06, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Technically, pseudo-jinchuuriki is a fanon/anime-only term, but it describes Naruto situation. @Seel, do you agree or disagree that Naruto is/was an actual jinchuuriki of all 9 using manga/databook evidence and your common sense? There's only Sasuke's statmenet as far as I know, but that's really not enough. Orochimaru said Jugo has Cursed Seal and Kakashi than Sharingan originates within Hyuga Clan.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 10:09, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Well, the Jugo thing isn't wrong and the Sharingan thing was retconned. I think Hagoromo said something about the beasts' chakra in Naruto as well. And during their final fight, Sasuke said something again... or was it Kurama? Dunno. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:21, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Yes, many brought this up before. I believe such as well. Kakashi doesn't have much knowledge about Nine-Tails, and Naruto regenerated even with Kurama's chakra completely suppressed ... Kurama's chakra might have amplified the healing factor, but I don't think it makes sense for it being purely from him.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:04, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
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The point is if the term jinchuuriki was to mean as having the actual beasts sealed inside, did he? No, he had just chakras of 1-8, from 2-7 through chakra transfer fist bump and of 1 and 8 through Obito which he stole from Madara. The actual 7 Tailed Beasts are in the wild (to our knowledge) they aren't sealed inside of Naruto and can't be unsealed, there is nothing to unseal besides Kurama.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 10:31, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Sage mode update ==
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:What do you need to settle this Seelentau? Because as far as I can gather, we had Naruto listed as "psuedo" up until Sasuke called him the jinchuriki of the other beasts, either just prior to their fight (Chapter 693), I don't even know where to begin to find the a Japanese script for the chapter so that's about as accurate I can give you.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:41, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::I have all Japanese volumes, don't worry about that^^ Well yes, Kokuo said it would return to its forest and Son said it would return to the Suiren Cave. That wouldn't make sense if the actual physical beasts were inside Naruto. However, Sasuke still called him Jinchuriki, so it seems like you're a Jinchuriki even with only the beasts' chakra inside you. Meaning there's nothing like a pseudo-jinchuriki. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:44, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::We only have Sasuke's statement to go on at this point blame Kishimoto for using that term. Maybe he changed what defines a jinchuuriki lol.--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 10:48, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::I doubt anyone believes they were "physically" in Naruto. That'd be stupid. (Not impossible mind you, hello Yin/Yang Kuramas. But stupid.), which in this case okay so no pseudo then. Which honestly was always a point of oddity ever since Minato showed up with Yin-Kurama.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:49, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Hello, since I don't have option to edit Naruto article could some one add to Senjutsu that he can by touching someones chakra he can sense horrible secrets that users are hiding or better read the truths from the user. Latest Anime episode introduced this ability while Shibi had shadow jutsu holding him, Naruto then sensed the war memories from Shibi and suddenly did know what they are hiding from him.[[Special:Contributions/86.50.115.56|86.50.115.56]] ([[User talk:86.50.115.56|talk]]) 14:24, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Well we all know Gyuki is inside of Killer B not Naruto too, so stating Naruto is Gyuki's jinchuuriki is funny. If having just TB chakra makes one a jinchuuriki, then the entire alliance are? Unless that was somehow different. Thing is, it was said:
Thanks Jeroi
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* a jinchuuriki is someone who has had a Tailed Beast sealed inside himself/herself
:Naruto didn't sense a "secret" he used the Sage Mode's ability to "sense" and saw what was happening on the battlefield. The same way he was wondering where Kakashi was when he returned to Konoha. This time we just got to see what he senses when in Sage Mode. The Nara's jutsu had nothing to do with it. Also, Shibi is an Aburame, he doesn't manipulate shadows.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:47, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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* extracting said Tailed Beast results in his/her death
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* as shown with Naruto, re-sealing it back can save the jinchuuriki
   
Sensory abilities, the same as when he tracked Nagato with the usage of that rod--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:10, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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If Naruto had been jinchuuriki of 2,3,4,5,6,7,9 tailed beasts at the time, then Madara would have extracted all 7 Tailed Beasts out of Naruto and Naruto wouldn't have been dying because the others would have kept him alive.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 10:53, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Wait, when we are at it, how isn't Naruto listed as a sensor ? O_O--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:12, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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:I believe this has been explained to you before, but there is a difference between being coated in someone's chakra, and having that chakra 'sealed' (which is the term I'm going to use for this, so eat me). Naruto didn't inject the Nine-Tails chakra into the Alliance, he gave coated them with ''his'' chakra, which was why he could still control it. And as pointed out before, the physical beasts are not in Naruto, just their chakra (which itself is apparently enough to make a jinchuriki). I'd even go as far as to argue that the chakra in Naruto was not 'active' until Hagoromo talk-no-jutsu and thus useless during that time anyway, but that's neither here nor there. The point being, the actual beasts are not in Naruto, only the chakra, which itself is enough to make one a jinchuriki but apparently not enough of import.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:02, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::Naruto had one tentacle of Hachibi sealed, right? Like, the physical thing. Like Kurama, just less. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:05, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::He did?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:08, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Incorrect Seelentau. Naruto got the Eight-Tails' chakra from Obito, after he had pulled it and the One-Tail chakra out of Madara. The only one who had tentacle chakra (ha!) was B.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:10, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:Last I checked, Naruto only had Kurama's Yang chakra inside him for most of the series. In other words, he didn't have the full beast inside him a very long time and yet was still called a junchuriki. Soooo, not understanding what the fuss is about.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 11:13, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::Because it was actual physical thing. Kurama was split into 2 with a technique, it's not the same as his case with chakras of the others. The other beasts are nowhere to be found inside of Naruto, he just had little of their chakras. They are gone and they weren't unsealed, hence not the original definition of jinchuuriki.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:16, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::But didn't Hagoromo said that now that Naruto has all the beasts chakra, they can communicate through him or some shit? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:19, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Correct Tau. Chapter 692, page 6.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 11:21, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::And then Sasuke or Kurama said in the final fight that Naruto had used up all of the TB chakra he got or so, right? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:24, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::It was Kurama who said Naruto's chakra was wery low. I don't think there was any mentioning of TB Chakra...--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 11:50, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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Yes chakra, not that they are actually sealed in him. And even the chakra part is questionable, they have been kinda... gone post chapter 699. Jinchuuriki means "Power of Human Sacrifice" or so. Beast gets sealed into host > beast gets unsealed from host > host dies > if re-sealed host lives. The actual 1-8 beasts weren't sealed into him, chakras of 2-7 didn't keep him alive and they can't be unsealed from him, hence it doesn't fit the original definition of jinchuuriki.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:25, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
: [[Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 5#Naruto a sensor type?]]
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:Which leads more into the whole "The original definition of jinchuriki was apparently wrong" shtick. Also I'm looking, throughout the battle, I haven't found anyone say he's run out of TB chakra, just that Naruto is basically running on fumes overall. Will keep looking though.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:35, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
: [[Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 8#Classification]]
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::More like Sasuke's definition/understanding of jinchuuriki is wrong.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:37, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
: [[Talk:Jiraiya/Archive 3#sensor type ]]
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:::You just keep telling yourself that my friend. Also, as an aside, I'm confused as hell, I thought Naruto used up his Truth Seeking Balls early in the fight? Cause I saw them as late as Double TB Rasenshuriken/Indra Arrow struggle which was the last time you see Naruto in Six-Paths Sage Mode at all.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:39, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
: Mr. Anonymous --15:27, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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::::Also been through the entire fight, unless I just missed it, I can't see where it states Naruto ran out of tailed beast chakra, just that he was running out of chakra period. Could someone point me to it, perhaps the translation I'm reading is off.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:40, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
I know this issue has been raised twice on naruto's talk page and once on Jiraiya's so i dont want to start another section, but...Naruto sensing whilst sage mode is activated is just as "conditional" as a Hyuuga sensing while the Byakugan is activated. I know adding him as a sensor has been shot down by alot of the higer ups on this wiki but regardless is regardless, he can sense. --[[User:Kiriako|Kiriako]] ([[User talk:Kiriako|talk]]) 15:53, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Naruto used his chakras for his Rasenshuriken/TBB attacks against Indra's Arrow and the remaining rest for his Rasengan against Sasuke's Enton Chidori was Kurama's very last bit of chakra.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:42, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
:If that were to hold true then every shinobi should be considered a sensor because most if not all have shown some level of sensory ability. Thus the classification has to have some sort of parameter. Yes he senses but it's a by-product of being in Sage-Mode and using natural energy or else perceiving someone's negative emotions.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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Another pointless topic, sigh: Naruto did not run out TB chakra in fight with Sasuke, he undid MT(wich requres TB chakra) later - this alone is enough to render useless any arguments that Elveonora use here. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 11:59, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:You don't have to be a pain, do you? That's a valid point, so he still had their chakras at that point, good. But the topic is mostly about the definition of jinchuuriki and if Sasuke's statement should be taken at face value. Most agree the 1-8 Beasts aren't actually sealed inside of Naruto, although you may even find some who do.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:04, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::What definition may i ask? Because matter about having parts of TB was not addressed until war arc by Kishi. We have one filler definition pseudo-jinchūriki(jinchūrikimodoki) - that was never used in manga. So from canon standpoint jinchūriki persons who has sealed beasts inside them and can use their power - this makes Naruto jinchūriki of all TB(this is never was about having their bodies). Now we know that if we halve the beast(Kurama) both will be considered as beasts. What you basically saying is: 1:2=50% of beast is ok and both will make you jinchūriki(Naruto, Minato, BZ-Obito) while 1-s=n% of beast is not ok and will not make you jinchūriki(Naruto's and 8TB case) when manga outright said that he is indeed jinchūriki of all TB. So yes this topic pretty pointless cause until some canon source say that Naruto is not jinchūriki of 8TB, he is. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 12:29, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::In that case pseudo-jinchuuriki should be deleted and Kin&Gin should be classified as jinchuuriki. And that's the thing, Naruto doesn't have the beasts sealed inside him. And Kurama's case is completely different, Kurama was physically sealed into him. Not even 1% of the actual beasts was sealed into Naruto, he was just given little of their chakras.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:34, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Pseudo-jinchuuriki should not be deleted because wiki about Naruto franchise not Naruto manga. It just must be considered as it is:Non-canon material. And again what do you mean by "physically sealed" term?-_- TB are no humans they are living chakra, why for you it is impossible for beast just split little bit of his chakra and that chakra being TB as wall? Because that's what we saw in chapter 655 with Hachibi's tentacle - there wal litle 8tails on his tail. And where did get "Not even 1% of the actual beasts"? - Cause it sounds like you making things. About KinGin i dunno(nor do i care) it is possble that by eanting Kurama's chakra they became his artificial offsprings but since it was never addressed using Occam's Razor - they are indeed jinchuuriki. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 12:51, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
Well if it were to hold true then we would classify no "true" sensor as an actual sensor because all shinobi show the inate ability. The parameter, i assume, would be a certain degree of sensing ability and Naruto definetly shows that. Like I mentioned above, the Hyuuga's sensing abilty is a by-product of activating the Byakugan just like Naruto's is a by-product of activating sage mode. --[[User:Kiriako|Kiriako]] ([[User talk:Kiriako|talk]]) 16:06, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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No, they have actual physical bodies and souls, why can't some comprehend that? No, if you take a bit of a Tailed Beast's chakra, that taken chakra isn't another Tailed Beast. Kurama's case was done with Death Demon Consuming Seal. And Naruto doesn't have physical appendages from them inside of him, the only actual physical Tailed Beasts inside is Kurama.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:58, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:"they have actual physical bodies and souls" that's issue here when Minato used shiki on 9tails he sealed half of Kurama's body or physical manifestation(even at moment of sealing Minato referred it as chakra), and now when dealing with humans it is actually deals with soul(Oro case), Nor TB can die i.e. send it's soul into pure world. So yeah most likely for TB chakra it is his soul and body, but that's matter of another discussion. While here we have dead horse beating about what was said in manga - Naruto is jinchuuriki of all TB. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 13:15, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::If what you say is true, then all Kiri would have had to do is have B transfer Gyuki's chakra to people to have an army of Gyuki's jinchuuriki. Instead they had an actual physical part of it, its tentacle be eaten by someone. The Tailed Beasts were shown to bleed, Gyuki's horn got cut off and Kin&Gin were swallowed by Kurama and they ate flesh from its stomach. The Tailed Beasts aren't hollow, nor is there some chakra ocean inside, they have blood and organs apparently.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 13:33, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Yeah but this way plot Naruto will not work out. And i did not say that TB holow inside - i said on fingers: Tailed Best flesh made from Tailed Best chakra and that's true considering Hagoromo just used CoaT on TT chakra. This is my last post here since we are going into offtop, so i will wait till you find some argument to at least build base for your claims - you don't have it atm. So have a nice day. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 13:52, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
I believe you are mistaken. I don't think I would ever classify a Hyūga as a sensor in the sense that this series uses it because what they use is sight; that is not sensing, it is plain and simply seeing. Even Karin's explanation of Inuzuka's being sensors in the anime is ridiculous to me. Sensors have the ability to naturally sense chakra around themselves using the assumed Chakra Sensing Technique or in Karin's case- the Mind's Eye of the Kagura, unlike Naruto who has to enter either modes to exhibit sensory abilities. Are we supposed to list him then as "Sensor~sometimes"? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:12, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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As far as the official definition of jinchuuriki goes, Naruto is not of theirs. People rather assume it was broadened to mean other things than that Sasuke was wrong. And as far as the phenomenon that took place goes, no sealing of actual physical Tailed Beasts took place. Naruto is hence not their jinchuuriki.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:16, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Well Kishimoto broadened the term when he made Sasuke use it.--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 14:39, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Or he made Sasuke wrong.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 14:56, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
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Except, after the Ten-Tails' story was retconned. Hagoromo himself would only be a Jinchuriki via having the chakra sealed into himself. As it was stated that the body of the Ten-Tails (Gedo Mazou) was sealed into what became known as the Moon. Then Hamura and the rest of the clan departed to live on it and protect the husk of the beast. While Hagoromo was classified as it's Jinchuriki, and later extracted it's chakra from himself and created the nine Tailed Beasts from it. The fact that Naruto is called the Jinchuriki of all the Tailed Beasts towards the end of the Manga, on top of Hagoromo's story being retconned with him being in similar circumstances to Naruto. It doesn't make any sense for Kishimoto to make Sasuke spew incorrect information at the end of the Manga to confuse readers. Naruto may not have their actual bodies, but their chakra is all he needs to be their meeting ground as Hagoromo said himself. Also, your examples on Naruto being the Jin of all those people is wrong, he only met most of them via the Tailed Beasts telepathy psyche plane, their chakras were never ever sealed into him, only the beasts' were. Minato and Kushina are human, not beasts, their chakra clearly ran out entirely and dissipated. Their circumstances are different.
   
By that logic alone, Karin isn't a sensor because she has to use her power/technique to detect, and with her chakra turned off she can't. Naruto has sensory abilities in both Sage and Kurama/Rikudou modes, and even these powers were the reason for the Alliance could fight the Zetsu Clone Army--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:15, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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When Naruto called on the chakra of each of the beasts, only one beasts appeared at a time, until he called on all of them at once when using their chakras all at once. Naruto never used SPSM at all in The Last, and he only ever uses their chakras in that mode. So of course they would be absent in The Last, in Gaiden, he only used Kurama. That also isn't proof, as why would he call on all of the beasts and go all out against a single Shin clone? As for the Boruto movie, I don't know, I haven't seen it yet. But basically what I'm trying to say is that absence is not equivalent to not having it. Overall, the end of the Manga says Naruto is the Jinchuriki of all the beasts, and nothing else has said he isn't. We're suppose to take the words of the Manga over anything else, not what we personally think. --[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 16:43, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
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:It's little offtopic, but sure. Problem is, Kurama said Gedo Mazo kept him alive after he extracted the chakra and made him and the other beasts and only then sent her to the skies as the moon. Yet, it's also shown and said that Ten-Tails was sent into the skies as a moon right after they defeated her, it's a known plothole. There are basically 2 versions of the events, both incompatible with each other. But just to answer, either way, the cases are different.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 17:05, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
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Yeah that's true, but wouldn't the words of Hagoromo himself and the databook > Kurama's (or maybe it was Gyuki) words? All of those other versions of Hagormo's story were either said by Obito, Madara, or Kurama. With the first two obviously having it wrong since the tablet they got that from was tampered by Black Zetsu. Kurama is the most reliable out of them all, but he was basically a newborn around that time. He probably didn't remember the whole story or got some of it wrong. Of course I cannot prove that, but after what Hagoromo said and what the most recent databook said it contradicts what was said earlier in the Manga. So it was most likely a retcon and we know that Obito and Madara were wrong anyway.--[[User:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4]] ([[User talk:Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4|talk]]) 17:19, August 12, 2015 (UTC)
   
Karin's explanation is not one for you to argue, it is a fact stated by the author. Ao is listed as a sensor and the fact is he can only sense due to his use of the Byakugan. I wont argue anything, I only look for some consistency in listing one person as something but not another even when their situations are the same. --[[User:Kiriako|Kiriako]] ([[User talk:Kiriako|talk]]) 16:20, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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==Part III & Part IV Profile Pics==
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I think it’s time we seriously put profile pics in for Part III and Part IV, “The Last” takes place in Part III and everyone sports a new look so even if you don’t accept the Hiden and “The Last” as a “Part III” having a profile pic for “The Last” is warranted enough given that everyone has a new look. Part IV is also a better phrase than “Epilogue” given it’s the beginning of the NextGen’s story. Other wikis like the Portuguese Naruto wiki are already making this change and I think we should too. Even if it just goes “Part I, Part II, The Last, Epilogue” but simply stating them as “Part I, II, III, IV” would probably be a lot easier especially since the Hiden series will probably get animated and the likelihood of the NextGen getting some form of animation. [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 17:24, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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: Part I and II are official classifications given by Kishi himself. He named them such at the end of Part I, where he declared Naruto would be split between a part one and two. There is no Part III, IV, V, or beyond. That is the stuff of fan ficiton and nothing more. Anything beyond Part II takes place in the Blank Period, which is an Epilogue by definition. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Rinnegan Sasuke.svg|20px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 23:30, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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::There. Is. No. Part. III. And definitely no Part IV. Both of those are just fanmade and never confirmed by Kishi. "Part I", "Part II", and "Epilogue" were all confirmed by Kishi. Nothing else. EDIT: Forgot about Blank Period, :x {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 23:42, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:::If anything I think we should add "the blank period" and update the Epilogue picture, Naruto is the only one left out of an picture update to animation.— [[User:Kinglink15|Kinglink15]] ([[User talk:Kinglink15|Kinglink15]]) 23:58, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
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: I simply used "Part III & Part IV" because it was easier to type WindStar, cool the jets dude. If anything you failed to read the entire statement, We could use "Blank Period" & "Epilogue". Given there are a total of FOUR different looks for the main characters for "Part I, II, Blank Period, & Epilogue" we need four profile pics. [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 11:37, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::<blockquote>''Even if it just goes “Part I, Part II, The Last, Epilogue” but simply stating them as “Part I, II, III, IV” would probably be a lot easier especially since the Hiden series will probably get animated and the likelihood of the NextGen getting some form of animation.''</blockquote>
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::Nice try, but I did read your statement. And that still doesn't negate the fact that "Part III" and such is fanmade and never will get in articles unless confirmed by Kishi (Or anyone that's worked with him).
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::Also, we don't need to stuff the infobox with too many tabbers. That's the point of "Appearance" sections, to showcase the rest. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 13:32, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Still just think we should add "Blank Period" just to cover all four periods for the series. If we're not going to do it for all four, why bother using more than one profile pic to begin with? It just seems like given "Blank Period" sports a new look and is the end of "Part II" but before "Epilogue" it warrants it just to stay consistent. [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 13:41, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I'm afraid both of you are mistaken again. Who do you know that can use any ability that requires chakra with their chakra turned off? All shinobi abilities require the use of chakra so I don't understand what you're trying to say Elveonora. As for the Ao bit, Ao was listed as a sensor because of chapter 464, page 12 or there about, 473 page 12, and the fact that he was made Sensor Division captain where he has yet to use the eye. Inconsistency would only arise from listing every person with a sensory method as a sensor.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:33, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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==Wedding==
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Would it be worth it to create a page about Naruto and Hinata's wedding? [[User:Anchorman34|Anchorman34]] ([[User talk:Anchorman34|talk]]) 11:17, September 1, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34
I don't see this discussion going very far without asking one question. What abilities would warrant in classifying a shinboi as a sensor?--[[User:Kiriako|Kiriako]] ([[User talk:Kiriako|talk]]) 16:47, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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:Not really. Not noteworthy enough to deserve an article.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]11:42, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
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::Nope. I'm pretty sure Konoha Hiden covers that. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 12:05, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
Why does it matter that he has to use "modes" ??? sensory ability = sensor.
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:::Ok, instead of a page for it, maybe more pictures could be added to different pages?[[User:Anchorman34|Anchorman34]] ([[User talk:Anchorman34|talk]]) 12:45, September 1, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34
Kyubi's chakra/Sage Mode = a power. A sensory technique = a power.
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::::...There's already plenty of pictures in different pages.--[[User:JouXIII|JouXIII]] ([[User talk:JouXIII|talk]]) 14:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
There's no difference, the "temporary" arguments holds no value as no ninja can sense 24/7/4/12/365--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:52, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
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:::::^Yep. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 16:43, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
 
The use of natural sensory abilities, right now we have the broad unbrella'd [[Chakra Sensing Technique]] and Karin's unique ability. As I've said before- and I don't know whether or not this is for everyone- but some sort of parameter has to be set to classify someone as a sensor. Going outside that would mean classifying Gaara as a sensor despite the fact that if he has no sand, he's as much a sensor as I am.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 08:39, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I wouldn't say Gaara is a sensor lol. But Naruto's "sensory' abilities were a key against Pain and Zetsu, not to mention stated to surpass most sensors.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:49, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Slimming down the abilities section ==
 
 
As i'm skimming through some of the talk pages, i bumped into Sasuke's where one of the editors complained over the excess of somewhat useless references and somewhat boasts of Sasuke...that's fair and all, it was a bit too much on some aspects...now we view the same problem with Naruto...fine he's the main character and all, but some of his ability sections are too much...more specifically his intelligence part...since when does a character has so much that we have to split it into two sub-sections...not even characters such as Orochimaru, Kabuto and Tobi, who are master manipulators, tacticians and scientists, don't have this much clutter on their sections, neither should Naruto, who despite being not being the idiot of the start of the series by far and being a skilled planner in his own right, intelligence is not his top point. Any opinions? [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 23:30, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm OK with the changes.
 
Edit: even though Naruto isn't the wisest, he isn't the dumbest anymore. The section is likely to portray his growth in intelligence over time.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:50, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:And i pointed that out...but against other characters who grossely outsmart him, it isn't valid. Now any idea on '''how''' to slim it? [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 00:02, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Something akin to "Naruto is dumb to learn and remember things, with actions driven by emotions from his hearth being above any deep thought and logic, except in battles when he has shown to have some level of tactical and analytical capability.
 
 
Dunno O_O--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The thing with Naruto is that for him, being the protagonist, we have a much greater pool of information to list. I think the reason he has two sections is so that his progress in both can be properly shown without it constantly shifting the aspect of intelligence being explained. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:11, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:And i understand that, but even so it's too much...but if you have another idea, i'm all ears...[[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 01:17, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I agree with Omnni, it's hard if not impossible to slim down some people's abilities sections. For Sasuke when I took stuff out that was either entirely wrong or irrelevant. Otherwise from that, his abilities section remained the same. Sometimes, it can't be helped other than trying not to account for every small detail and limiting examples of the said ability.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:00, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Versions 1 and 2 ==
 
 
So...... Should we just give up the idea of naruto in control of version 2 or 1? Huhhhhhhhhh......... I hate the yellow form too, even the 2nd one. Version 2 and 1 was so much sexier. Should we give up on it? Please don't delete.--[[Special:Contributions/24.166.174.117|24.166.174.117]] ([[User talk:24.166.174.117|talk]]) 19:40, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
This isn't a forum--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:36, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Appearance Section Image? ==
 
 
Where is the full body shot image of Naruto that USED to be in the "Appearance" section? [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 05:39, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:It's somewhere on the wiki. But apparently it was changed for an image of Naruto's various ''forms'' which I don't understand...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:48, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Can we please switch it back? The whole point of the appearance section is his appearance...[[Special:Contributions/93.186.16.243|93.186.16.243]] ([[User talk:93.186.16.243|talk]]) 13:04, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I agree with this sentiment. Only three frames actually show Naruto's "growth" appearance-wise and there's already an image of him as a child in his article.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:27, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I changed it back to the Part 1 and Part 2 image.[[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 15:03, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Stats ==
 
 
If you look at Naruto where he is at in the Manga the databook on the wiki does not represent him at all 26 in total what? {{unsigned|65.48.143.145}}
 
:Kishimoto makes those stats, they're only published when there's a databook. Last databook covers only up to Sasuke's fight with Itachi, before learning the truth about the massacre. People ought to know that by now. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:48, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
Ok sorry for making you annoyed I didn't know.{{unsigned|65.48.143.145}}
 
 
== Shadow clone strength ==
 
 
Is it ok if we made it say that his shadow clones had grown stronger as well, as shown in the fourth great shinobi world war, please? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 23:01, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
:That doesn't make much sense to me to note that. It is a '''clone''' after all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:10, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Sage Mode Time Limit ==
 
 
During what fight was it shown that Naruto can stay in Sage Mode for ten minutes? I thought the time limit was originally five minutes.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 16:47, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:The article mentions something in the war, so it's probably out there somewhere. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:56, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
But during what part of the war? Naruto has used it at least four times during the war. Against the Third Raikage, against Madara when he threw the Rasenshuriken, when he needed to free the Four-Tails from Tobi's control, and lastly when he had a shadow clone use it while the real Naruto was in Bijuu Mode. So which part was it?--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 17:26, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I dunno. That whole paragraph seems a bit oddly-put or incorrect to me. When was Naruto ever said to have mastered senjutsu? Yes he's mastered Sage Mode but senjutsu on a whole looks like it would take a greater deal of time. As for the Sage Mode limit. I can honestly never remember Naruto saying anything about how long he could stay in the mode but only the amount of techniques he could use while in Sage Mode before the chakra was used up.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:29, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
So then why was it posted on the article in the first place? I mean I know Naruto has mastered Sage Mode to the point he can enter it a lot quicker but to maintain it for ten minutes seems a bit misleading.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 17:38, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It was added because someone might have believed the info to be true. Not that I'm saying it isn't, we could very well be mistaken.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:44, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
So then it should be removed from the article right? If it's not accurate information and it doesn't have any chapters to support that information, then it shouldn't be there at all.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 17:51, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:It should probably be looked up before. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:02, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
I just wanted to know which part of the war Naruto demonstrated that he could stay in Sage Mode for ten minutes. But if the information is inaccurate, then it should be removed from the article as soon as possible. But if the information is in fact true then what chapter did he demonstrate this?--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 18:23, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Can we say Sage Mode even has a time limit, it is more like when Naruto uses up the Sage Chakra that he loses Sage Mode. [[User:NarutoRevival|NarutoRevival]] ([[User talk:NarutoRevival|talk]]) 18:40, October 21, 2012 (UTC)NarutoRevival
 
 
It's been stated by Fukasaku that you can only maintain Sage Mode for five minutes. He confirmed this in chapter 420 of the manga and episode 157 of the anime. I'm just pointing out that someone posted on the article claiming that Naruto can maintain it for ten minutes during the war, I just want to know if this information placed on the article is true otherwise it needs to be removed if it's false.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 19:04, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I think someone confuse Tailed Beast Mode with Sage Mode--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:10, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Whatever the case maybe if this information about Sage Mode is not true it needs to be removed from the article right away.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 19:21, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Naruto was stated to could use the Tailed Beast Mode only for 5 minutes, I don't remember any mention of Sage Mode having a a specific timer, someone might have mixed up these two or something--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:23, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Kurama said that it would only last for five minutes because it was their first transformation but that's off topic. Fukasaku did in fact tell Naruto that Sage Mode would only last for five minutes. He said this in chapter 420 of the manga and episode 157 of the anime. But apparently someone posted on the article claiming that Naruto can maintain Sage Mode for ten minutes during the war, I just want to know if this is true, otherwise the post should be removed from the article right now if it's false.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 19:35, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So can we please just edit the page already?--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 19:56, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
As long as the proper references are added, sure. It also needs to be mentioned that Naruto has worked to increase the amount of time he can stay in Sage Mode, he was shown practising that when he went after Sasuke after Pain's invasion. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:17, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I already know that he was practicing to maintain Sage Mode longer during the Five Kage Summit Arc. But if it is true that Naruto has shown that he can stay in Sage Mode for about ten minutes during the war I just want to know which chapter he first demonstrated this ability. --[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 20:29, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Weird, in the translation of the chapter I'm reading, I don't see any mention of 5 minutes, but I take your word for that I guess...
 
EDIT: I myself do not recall him using Sage Mode for an extended amount of time during the war--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:44, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So you agree with me? Even though he has used Sage Mode at least four times during the war, has it been shown that he could maintain it for ten minutes during those four times? Also check other manga translations of chapter 420 or you can just watch episode 157 of the anime.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 20:54, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah. And found one that mentions 5 min. I think it's just an assumption based on the fact that Naruto trained in order to maintain it longer, so someone has estimated it to be 10 minutes now.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:03, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
But is this assumption proven to be fact in the manga? Just look back at the following chapters:555,560,561,569,570,571,and 572. Up until now those were the only times he has used Sage Mode during the war. Now during those moments Naruto has only resorted to Sage Mode for those very brief tasks and during those moments even though he has demonstrated that he could enter Sage Mode a lot faster was he also demonstrating that he could maintain it for ten minutes or so? In my opinion I don't think so. So what do you guys think? If Naruto did demonstrate that he could maintain Sage Mode in those following chapters I would like some good explanations please.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 22:06, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So it's confirmed, he hasn't demonstrated maintaining Sage Mode for ten minutes during the war. Thanks for correcting that statement. But if it's possible could you also post that he can only stay in Sage Mode for five minutes? Like how it's stated in the article that he's shown that he could stay in Nine Tails Chakra Mode for most of the morning of the war. I think that's something worth mentioning.--[[Special:Contributions/98.109.95.216|98.109.95.216]] ([[User talk:98.109.95.216|talk]]) 23:02, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Why deleted ==
 
 
Why was the section here deleted ? Was it inaccurate information ? --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 10:45, October 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Quality of Page==
 
I think that the images on [[Naruto]]'s page should include more epic headings under them. I mean, for Naruto vs [[Tobi]], I think it should be just that, Naruto vs Tobi! I just don't feel like all of them really explain well enough what's happening in the picture. Also, this page in a couple of ways is majorly undone/incomplete. It is supposed to summarize Naruto's missions and experiences, but that doesn't mean even minor info should be included. E.g., Naruto's fight against Sasuke on the hospital rooftop should be included with a picture of it as well as Naruto's briefly shown date with Sakura at [[Ichiraku]], may or may not need a picture. More images of events(canon) should be included instead of like a single picture for each flippin arc, ya know!
 
:This wikia doesn't really do "epic headings" wherever the image is, the content should speak for it. As for the rest of what you're asking is impossible to do unless you want the page to load some time next year. The wikia is not a substitute for you watching or reading the actual series.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:56, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== something strange ==
 
 
When kurama gave chakra to kakashi and Gai their injuries were not healed and kurama's chakra has the ability to heal injuries whenever it was lend to the given person, i am thinking that naruto's healing ability comes from his ownself and not from kurama. --[[User:Naruto6paths|Naruto6paths]] ([[User talk:Naruto6paths|talk]]) 09:56, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Guy didn't sustain any physical damage except he was bleeding a fair bit which has stopped and Kakashi does still have the x in his flak jacket but doesn't seem to be bleeding...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:27, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Naruto Acadamy ==
 
 
Ok I have a question: Correct me if I am wrong but it did state that Naruto fail the graduation exam two times. I asked my friend and he said that he must have taken it early...Why didn't Sasuke take it early? We all know he would have. And Naruto is younger than most of his classmates. How did he fail twice but is still younger than his graduating class?
 
--[[User:Mtn Dew Stud|Click this black link to go to my Talk page]] ([[User talk:Mtn Dew Stud|talk]]) 03:44, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
:These aren't the types of questions that should be asked here, it isn't a forum. These aren't even the things people should be over-thinking so much. If you like, we have an [[w:c:naruto.answers|answers wikia]] you can pose the question to.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:46, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Cloak of Invisibility Technique ==
 
 
Is there a reason it is not on either Naruto or Konohamaru's skill lists? Naruto clearly uses it to give his pursuers the slip in episode 1. {{unsigned|46.40.85.203}}
 
 
Unless the person is a particularly notable user of the technique eg. Shisui of the Body Flicker, 1000 transformations Kazan, we don't list users of general use ninja skills. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 20:15, November 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Usuratonkachi ==
 
 
Can 'Usuratonkachi' be included in the infobox? Just wondering. [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 00:57, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Whut's thaaat?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:50, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
He is just trolling... it's what Sasuke used to call Naruto, a useless clumsy idiot/dumbass. I don't think we should list that as his title/nickname lol--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:36, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:But Sakura and Ino had nicknames like Dekorin (forehead girl) and Ino-buta (Ino-pig) respectively. So why not Naruto? [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 22:53, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Trying to come up with a good anti-argument... O_O someone help me, I had no idea till now that Sakura and Ino have those things in their infobox--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:59, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:If that was used more than once, and exclusively to Naruto (unlike, let's say, "scaredy cat", which both Sasuke and Naruto called each other at some point), and if it's properly referenced, fine by me. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:13, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Chakra Transfer technique ==
 
 
You might want to put in something about Naruto's new Chakra Transfer tech. Your thoughts? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 22:11, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:[[Chakra Transfer Technique]] isn't unique, but mentioning that Naruto can no do it like a Tailed Beast is fine.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:15, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Wasn't it an instance of Naruto using chakra transfer when he helped Chiyo revive Gaara?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== cleanup idea ==
 
 
It's pointless to have [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Uzumaki#Jinch.C5.ABriki_Transformations this] when a redirect to [[Naruto Uzumaki's Jinchūriki Forms]] would be more than enough, don't you think? Why to have noted the same thing twice?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:55, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Removing it completely won't be right... Maybe we could shorten it more.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 13:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::Yep, shortening. "As a host of Kurama, the Nine-Tails, Naruto benefits from this and that, refer to his jinchuriky transformations article for more information" or something akin to that.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:04, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::One line and repetition of the {{tlx|main}}?
 
:::It should have atleast a paragraph of '''good quality''', ''maybe'' similar to what is in its Relationships section.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 13:26, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
Yes, that was just an example that I have used. That goes for jinchuriky section. Overall, his whole abilities section should be streamlined. For example, I don't think we should note him making a Rasengan without Shadow Clones or two of them at once WITH Kurama's chakra (this should stay purely in host forms article) the reason for this is because everyone with Kurama's chakra can do things they couldn't before. It's not Naruto's own skill--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:42, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Chakra Prowess ==
 
 
There's a section in Sasuke's article detailing his Chakra Prowess.
 
 
Don't you guys think that Naruto's article needs to have a section like that?--[[User:Itachi7000|Itachi7000]] ([[User talk:Itachi7000|talk]]) 01:20, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
: No. --[[User:Aged Goblin|<font size="4"><span style='color: Goblin'><font face="Old English Text MT">'''''The Goblin'''''</font></span></font>]] 10:08, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Correction to many pages ==
 
 
The correction I am speaking of is the Drilling Air Bullets listed under ninjutsu that Naruto can use. It says it is only used in a game. I think they are talking about Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3, where he can use Wind Release: Air Bullets, not Drilling Air Bullets. It should be changed to such, since the Naruto, Drilling Air Bullets, and Air Bullet page are all incorrect. I am not sure how to change it, so I am posting this so someone else will. [[Special:Contributions/192.183.30.172|192.183.30.172]] ([[User talk:192.183.30.172|talk]]) 02:50, January 29, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 
:The customisable wind technique Naruto can use in that game actually is Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet, the kanji are the same. The reason it shows in Naruto's infobox is due to a software but in the extension used to make the infoboxes, something not easily fixable from our end. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:05, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
 
Sorry to correct you, but I have the game on right now and it is Wind Release: Air Bullets. There is a separate page for air bullets. the only one who uses the drilling air bullet is the one tails. BUT since you say it is difficult to change, I won't ask you to correct it. Just please realize that it is in fact on the wrong page. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/192.183.30.172|192.183.30.172]] ([[User talk:192.183.30.172|talk]]) 05:56, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 
:And if you would bother looking at the article on that technique, you would see that Air Bullet is how the name of this technique was translated in English, for example, on TV. We add different translations if they differ between themselves. I have seen screenshots of the game in Japanese, and the kanji are the same. There's a reason we go to lengths to have the kanji of techniques, so we can get proper translations. Viz does a good job on dialogue, but the name of stuff sometimes gets change so instead of accuracy, it's either better sounding or simpler to understand. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:47, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
ok lets just mention pure logic. which is more likely: naruto using a technique that only the one tails can use or the one that is listed as a wind style jutsu that could technically be learned by anyone? come on. if you dont understand that there is a page for wind style air bullets here it is. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Air_Bullets simple enough. [[Special:Contributions/192.183.30.172|192.183.30.172]] ([[User talk:192.183.30.172|talk]]) 21:23, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 
:That is an unnamed technique article. When manga or anime shows a technique without naming it, we create the article on the technique using a descriptive, generic name for it. That article in question was created when Nagato used that in an anime exclusive sequence, in March, last year. The game in which Naruto used the technique was released in 2009. And also, I should remind you: Naruto used the technique ''in a game''. If you search for the kanji for other custom techniques from that game we also have articles on, specifically "雷遁・雷震閃" and "水遁・大鉄砲玉", you will find sites that list the kanji for custom jutsu certain characters can use. Among them, you will see the kanji for Shukaku's Wind Release technique. And to put the final nail on this topic: [http://bbs.tgbus.com/thread-770711-1-1.html here is a thread] in a forum, with screenshots of the game in Japanese (the forum is in Chinese, the screenshots are in Japanese). In the second image below the character selection screen, where custom jutsu are selectable, you will see the kanji for that Wind Release. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:39, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
It can have the same kanji and still have a different meaning. the names are so similar that they would probably have the same one. i dont know much about the japanese language, but this is the case with basically every language ever. but thats all i feel like arguing on this one case. Try not to base your whole argument on only one thing. [[Special:Contributions/192.183.30.172|192.183.30.172]] ([[User talk:192.183.30.172|talk]]) 21:58, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 
 
== Taijutsu benchmark ==
 
 
So, looking through some recent changes to the article, I noticed someone readded a sentence to Naruto's taijutsu section, mentioning his taijutsu performance against Itachi. I know Itachi is great and all, but since when does he figure as a taijutsu benchmark? Itachi hardly has any taijutsu feats to reliably make him something to compare taijutsu aptitude with. If you want to go with databooks stats, yes he's skilled, but so is Orochimaru in genjutsu. I recall removing something like that last year. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:56, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Sharingan user + high taijutsu score = fast.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:01, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
High taijutsu score means skill, not power. Sharingan itself isn't speed, just perception. I get the speed argument though, but those are not quite the arguments to make for it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:39, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Naruto's taijutsu is certainly above average, just look at people like Shikamaru, Ino and pretty much his peers, I'm yet to see them do some serious taijutsu fight... the only capable are Lee, Choji, Sakura, Hinata and perhaps Kiba (R.I.P. Neji) and the only one who can equal him in terms of physical strength and speed is Lee. But not to talk only about strength and speed, his fighting style/technique also matters... he knows frog punches and kicks and ****
 
Being equal in taijutsu to not-ill Itachi who has a Sharingan thus can follow and predict movements speaks for itself alone, but if that's not enough for ya, then take into consideration the above as well, so... Oh, he also managed to keep up with Pain in his base mode for a short while and deflected Sasuke's kunai meant to kill Sakura--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:16, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I'm not trying to downplay Naruto's taijutsu, I'm just saying that comparing it to Itachi's doesn't feel like the way to sell it. It's like saying pizza is good because the dough is tasty. Pizza is good, but dough isn't what gives it flavour. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:21, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Background ==
 
The "background" - part of this side looks horribly deplaced. could somebody fix it so there is not such a giant gap?[[Special:Contributions/94.135.138.160|94.135.138.160]] ([[User talk:94.135.138.160|talk]]) 23:53, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Click "show" on the content section between the introduction and the background sections. Other than doing that, we can't help you.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:37, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
::amazing, it worked! xD[[Special:Contributions/94.135.138.160|94.135.138.160]] ([[User talk:94.135.138.160|talk]]) 13:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Bio section==
 
I don't usually edit on this Wiki (I visit on occasion though), but the bio section for Naruto is ridiculously detailed and long. I'd suggest cutting it down considerably. People seem to forget that since the series is about Naruto's life, the summaries of what happen in the arcs is essentially what happens to him. I think it would be best to summarize the main points of the Arcs, and refer the reader to the main articles for additional information. Some parts of his bio seem to go on endlessly about innocuous information. I haven't even read the whole thing because its just way too much information. --[[User:Ketchup Revenge|Ketchup Revenge]] ([[User talk:Ketchup Revenge|talk]]) 06:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Do you think we can add ¨Proud Failure¨ to the moniker list? Justin Holland (talk) 22:49, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

When was he called that?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 18:29, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
Before his match with Neji, from Hinata. Justin Holland (talk) 18:31, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't list him as that, does not sound as if it would've been of so much importance. But if we actually would do so, then we should also include Sasuke's "Dr. Snake". Norleon (talk) 18:49, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

kekkei genkai Edit

Unless I'm mistaken, he used Lava, Magnet, Boil using chakras of the Tailed Beasts, does it make sense to list them in his infobox? Kekkei Genkai means bloodline limit, it's not part of his genetic makeup to use those advanced natures.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 00:03, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

But he used them anyhow, and those advanced natures are KKG. The TB chakra he's utilises are a part of him now. And anyway, who's to say Lava Release was really part of Rōshi's genetic make-up? What Han and Boil Release? Simply put, the TB's chakra is part of Naruto now.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 00:07, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
The databook says that about Roshi. :| • Seelentau 愛 00:11, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
Okay. But is that uniform? Yes or no, the advanced natures in question are KKG anyway. If you can use it, you can utilise the KKG. The chakra's are a part of Naruto now.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 00:17, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
Are they?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 00:18, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
The difference is that he doesn't have the kekkei genkai that is the genetical makeup. He only has the kekkei genkai that is the resulting ability. Roshi had both. • Seelentau 愛 00:20, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto doesn't have those kekkei genkai any more than his friends are users of Rasengan and are jinchuuriki. He even had to yell: "x TB do it" how is that him having the KKGs?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 00:22, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

I understand the difference clearly. And I'm taking your word for it regarding Rōshi, but my question still hasn't been answered. Is Rōshi's case uniform amongst all the jinchuriki? And quite frankly, where's the relevance really? The TB's chakra are/were (depends on who you ask) part of Naruto. He utilised the KKG, so a removal would be wrong. That's how I see it. I get what you're saying though. Oh and Elve, Chap. 673, page 4 Naruto asked Son to lend him chakra. That's as far as Son went. Big difference from what you're claiming.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 00:31, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
How does Roshi giving Naruto his Lava Release chakra make Naruto having Lava Release Kekkei Genkai?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 00:33, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
Same way Hagoromo gifted Sasuke the Six Paths Yin Seal and SP chakra and Sasuke's listed as a user of both. Naruto used the KKG, transferred it into his Rasenshuriken, and everything. It's part of his arsenal. That's all there is to it.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 00:39, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
@Elve, Roshi is jinchuriki of Son Goku - the beast. Anyway even if Naruto lost chakra of other TB(which is arguable) he will still have KKG same way Kakashi has Sharingan and Madara has Rinne Sharingan - historically - and why people forget that Naruto has KKG characteristic in DB? ./ Rage gtx (talk) 02:21, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Mode cont. Edit

His mode in Gaiden can't be Six Paths Sage Mode because it lacks the distinct markings and Truth-Seeking Balls. I believe it's Tailed Beast Sage Mode enhanced with/by Six Paths chakra. Why? Because when he re-entered to fight Madara, his normal Sage Mode lacked pigmentation around the eyes too and that was before he activated Six Paths Sage Mode. Sasuke noted towards the end of their last fight that his Tailed Beast chakra gifts were running out, just before he created two large Rasenshuriken variations. Also, his usage of Six Paths chakra in The Last certainly confirms he still has that. Pesa123456789 (talk) 18:13, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

When does he use Six Paths chakra/Six Paths Senjutsu in The Last?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 19:14, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Video Games Edit

Is Naruto playable in every game? If so, under Video Games, couldn't we just say something along the lines of "he's playable in every game" instead of listing each individual game. It would make the longest article on the wiki a tiny bit shorter. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 02:36, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Because of how page size is calculated, it would take the page from its current "length" of 219,269 bytes to 219,253 bytes. Actually, if an explanation saying Naruto is playable in every game were added, that would technically make the article "longer". Load times would probably be improved though.
Although I will say that the table is pretty ridiculous at this point. So is the movie section, which is illegible. ~SnapperTo 16:55, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Prosthetic arm Edit

Can we say he was able to receive that arm from being since he and Hashirama were from the same linage and that's why his body did not reject the arm?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 22:11, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

New epilogue pic Edit

Maybe we should get a anime pic for his epilogue pic? Justin Holland (talk) 00:01, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Was curious about the same.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:10, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

for the final time Edit

Naruto is not, was not, has not ever been jinchuuriki of Shukaki, Matatabi, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Saiken, Chomei, Gyuki. Their presence in Naruto's mental plane didn't mean he had been their jinchuuriki, otherwise we should classify Naruto as a jinchuuriki of Minato, Kushina, Killer B, Yugito Nii, Yagura, Roshi, Han, Utakata, Fu and Hagoromo himself.


If Naruto had been their jinchuuriki, Madara would have extracted 7 Tailed Beasts out of Naruto, not just Kurama, not to mention Naruto wouldn't have been dying because he still would have been a jinchuuriki without Kurama if he had the other 6 at the time. The terminology in the series is sometimes used very loosely and incorrect statements or assumptions and half-truths were given, it's written realistically from the characters' perspectives, they have knowledge of some things and don't have of others, or their knowledge is limited. We as readers aren't supposed to take every single word at face value without taking into account context and the fact that each character is written as a distinct individual with different knowledge, personality etc. Sasuke calling Naruto jinchuuriki of all the Tailed Beasts wasn't literal, his knowledge of what jinchuuriki and a Tailed Beast are is minimal. I have debunked this above using logic, now for some facts: in The Last, Gaiden and presumably (yet to see it) Boruto movie, any other Tailed Beast besides Kurama are within Naruto completely absent, unless they are playing hide and seek. In The Last, only Kurama appears inside of Naruto's mental plane and otherwise. In Gaiden, only Kurama was there staring at young Shin clone, not other 8 huge monsters. Apparently in Boruto, Shiki notes Naruto is jinchuuriki of Kurama, not of all 9.

My pleasure.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 09:36, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

AKA I am right but Kishi is wrong. The gall of fans on this site sometimes.Umishiru (talk) 09:46, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Kishi didn't say anything like that to my knowledge. He wrote Sasuke say that, read above. Not every statement in the manga is factual.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 09:55, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
I think what Elve means is that Naruto isn't a Jinchūriki of the other 8 beasts, but a Pseudo-Jinchūriki, as he has their chakra, but not their bodies sealed in. And I think we previously had it listed as that, don't know why it was changed tho.--Omojuze (talk) 10:03, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Gimme chapters and I translate statements about this. • Seelentau 愛 10:06, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Technically, pseudo-jinchuuriki is a fanon/anime-only term, but it describes Naruto situation. @Seel, do you agree or disagree that Naruto is/was an actual jinchuuriki of all 9 using manga/databook evidence and your common sense? There's only Sasuke's statmenet as far as I know, but that's really not enough. Orochimaru said Jugo has Cursed Seal and Kakashi than Sharingan originates within Hyuga Clan.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 10:09, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Well, the Jugo thing isn't wrong and the Sharingan thing was retconned. I think Hagoromo said something about the beasts' chakra in Naruto as well. And during their final fight, Sasuke said something again... or was it Kurama? Dunno. • Seelentau 愛 10:21, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

The point is if the term jinchuuriki was to mean as having the actual beasts sealed inside, did he? No, he had just chakras of 1-8, from 2-7 through chakra transfer fist bump and of 1 and 8 through Obito which he stole from Madara. The actual 7 Tailed Beasts are in the wild (to our knowledge) they aren't sealed inside of Naruto and can't be unsealed, there is nothing to unseal besides Kurama.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 10:31, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

What do you need to settle this Seelentau? Because as far as I can gather, we had Naruto listed as "psuedo" up until Sasuke called him the jinchuriki of the other beasts, either just prior to their fight (Chapter 693), I don't even know where to begin to find the a Japanese script for the chapter so that's about as accurate I can give you.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 10:41, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
I have all Japanese volumes, don't worry about that^^ Well yes, Kokuo said it would return to its forest and Son said it would return to the Suiren Cave. That wouldn't make sense if the actual physical beasts were inside Naruto. However, Sasuke still called him Jinchuriki, so it seems like you're a Jinchuriki even with only the beasts' chakra inside you. Meaning there's nothing like a pseudo-jinchuriki. • Seelentau 愛 10:44, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
We only have Sasuke's statement to go on at this point blame Kishimoto for using that term. Maybe he changed what defines a jinchuuriki lol.--Kuroiraikou (talk) 10:48, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
I doubt anyone believes they were "physically" in Naruto. That'd be stupid. (Not impossible mind you, hello Yin/Yang Kuramas. But stupid.), which in this case okay so no pseudo then. Which honestly was always a point of oddity ever since Minato showed up with Yin-Kurama.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 10:49, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Well we all know Gyuki is inside of Killer B not Naruto too, so stating Naruto is Gyuki's jinchuuriki is funny. If having just TB chakra makes one a jinchuuriki, then the entire alliance are? Unless that was somehow different. Thing is, it was said:

  • a jinchuuriki is someone who has had a Tailed Beast sealed inside himself/herself
  • extracting said Tailed Beast results in his/her death
  • as shown with Naruto, re-sealing it back can save the jinchuuriki

If Naruto had been jinchuuriki of 2,3,4,5,6,7,9 tailed beasts at the time, then Madara would have extracted all 7 Tailed Beasts out of Naruto and Naruto wouldn't have been dying because the others would have kept him alive.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 10:53, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

I believe this has been explained to you before, but there is a difference between being coated in someone's chakra, and having that chakra 'sealed' (which is the term I'm going to use for this, so eat me). Naruto didn't inject the Nine-Tails chakra into the Alliance, he gave coated them with his chakra, which was why he could still control it. And as pointed out before, the physical beasts are not in Naruto, just their chakra (which itself is apparently enough to make a jinchuriki). I'd even go as far as to argue that the chakra in Naruto was not 'active' until Hagoromo talk-no-jutsu and thus useless during that time anyway, but that's neither here nor there. The point being, the actual beasts are not in Naruto, only the chakra, which itself is enough to make one a jinchuriki but apparently not enough of import.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:02, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Naruto had one tentacle of Hachibi sealed, right? Like, the physical thing. Like Kurama, just less. • Seelentau 愛 11:05, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
He did?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:08, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Incorrect Seelentau. Naruto got the Eight-Tails' chakra from Obito, after he had pulled it and the One-Tail chakra out of Madara. The only one who had tentacle chakra (ha!) was B.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:10, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Last I checked, Naruto only had Kurama's Yang chakra inside him for most of the series. In other words, he didn't have the full beast inside him a very long time and yet was still called a junchuriki. Soooo, not understanding what the fuss is about.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 11:13, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Because it was actual physical thing. Kurama was split into 2 with a technique, it's not the same as his case with chakras of the others. The other beasts are nowhere to be found inside of Naruto, he just had little of their chakras. They are gone and they weren't unsealed, hence not the original definition of jinchuuriki.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:16, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
But didn't Hagoromo said that now that Naruto has all the beasts chakra, they can communicate through him or some shit? • Seelentau 愛 11:19, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Correct Tau. Chapter 692, page 6.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 11:21, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
And then Sasuke or Kurama said in the final fight that Naruto had used up all of the TB chakra he got or so, right? • Seelentau 愛 11:24, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
It was Kurama who said Naruto's chakra was wery low. I don't think there was any mentioning of TB Chakra...--JouXIII (talk) 11:50, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Yes chakra, not that they are actually sealed in him. And even the chakra part is questionable, they have been kinda... gone post chapter 699. Jinchuuriki means "Power of Human Sacrifice" or so. Beast gets sealed into host > beast gets unsealed from host > host dies > if re-sealed host lives. The actual 1-8 beasts weren't sealed into him, chakras of 2-7 didn't keep him alive and they can't be unsealed from him, hence it doesn't fit the original definition of jinchuuriki.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:25, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Which leads more into the whole "The original definition of jinchuriki was apparently wrong" shtick. Also I'm looking, throughout the battle, I haven't found anyone say he's run out of TB chakra, just that Naruto is basically running on fumes overall. Will keep looking though.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:35, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
More like Sasuke's definition/understanding of jinchuuriki is wrong.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:37, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
You just keep telling yourself that my friend. Also, as an aside, I'm confused as hell, I thought Naruto used up his Truth Seeking Balls early in the fight? Cause I saw them as late as Double TB Rasenshuriken/Indra Arrow struggle which was the last time you see Naruto in Six-Paths Sage Mode at all.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:39, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Also been through the entire fight, unless I just missed it, I can't see where it states Naruto ran out of tailed beast chakra, just that he was running out of chakra period. Could someone point me to it, perhaps the translation I'm reading is off.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 11:40, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto used his chakras for his Rasenshuriken/TBB attacks against Indra's Arrow and the remaining rest for his Rasengan against Sasuke's Enton Chidori was Kurama's very last bit of chakra.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:42, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Another pointless topic, sigh: Naruto did not run out TB chakra in fight with Sasuke, he undid MT(wich requres TB chakra) later - this alone is enough to render useless any arguments that Elveonora use here. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 11:59, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

You don't have to be a pain, do you? That's a valid point, so he still had their chakras at that point, good. But the topic is mostly about the definition of jinchuuriki and if Sasuke's statement should be taken at face value. Most agree the 1-8 Beasts aren't actually sealed inside of Naruto, although you may even find some who do.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:04, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
What definition may i ask? Because matter about having parts of TB was not addressed until war arc by Kishi. We have one filler definition pseudo-jinchūriki(jinchūrikimodoki) - that was never used in manga. So from canon standpoint jinchūriki persons who has sealed beasts inside them and can use their power - this makes Naruto jinchūriki of all TB(this is never was about having their bodies). Now we know that if we halve the beast(Kurama) both will be considered as beasts. What you basically saying is: 1:2=50% of beast is ok and both will make you jinchūriki(Naruto, Minato, BZ-Obito) while 1-s=n% of beast is not ok and will not make you jinchūriki(Naruto's and 8TB case) when manga outright said that he is indeed jinchūriki of all TB. So yes this topic pretty pointless cause until some canon source say that Naruto is not jinchūriki of 8TB, he is. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 12:29, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
In that case pseudo-jinchuuriki should be deleted and Kin&Gin should be classified as jinchuuriki. And that's the thing, Naruto doesn't have the beasts sealed inside him. And Kurama's case is completely different, Kurama was physically sealed into him. Not even 1% of the actual beasts was sealed into Naruto, he was just given little of their chakras.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:34, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Pseudo-jinchuuriki should not be deleted because wiki about Naruto franchise not Naruto manga. It just must be considered as it is:Non-canon material. And again what do you mean by "physically sealed" term?-_- TB are no humans they are living chakra, why for you it is impossible for beast just split little bit of his chakra and that chakra being TB as wall? Because that's what we saw in chapter 655 with Hachibi's tentacle - there wal litle 8tails on his tail. And where did get "Not even 1% of the actual beasts"? - Cause it sounds like you making things. About KinGin i dunno(nor do i care) it is possble that by eanting Kurama's chakra they became his artificial offsprings but since it was never addressed using Occam's Razor - they are indeed jinchuuriki. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 12:51, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

No, they have actual physical bodies and souls, why can't some comprehend that? No, if you take a bit of a Tailed Beast's chakra, that taken chakra isn't another Tailed Beast. Kurama's case was done with Death Demon Consuming Seal. And Naruto doesn't have physical appendages from them inside of him, the only actual physical Tailed Beasts inside is Kurama.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:58, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

"they have actual physical bodies and souls" that's issue here when Minato used shiki on 9tails he sealed half of Kurama's body or physical manifestation(even at moment of sealing Minato referred it as chakra), and now when dealing with humans it is actually deals with soul(Oro case), Nor TB can die i.e. send it's soul into pure world. So yeah most likely for TB chakra it is his soul and body, but that's matter of another discussion. While here we have dead horse beating about what was said in manga - Naruto is jinchuuriki of all TB. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 13:15, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
If what you say is true, then all Kiri would have had to do is have B transfer Gyuki's chakra to people to have an army of Gyuki's jinchuuriki. Instead they had an actual physical part of it, its tentacle be eaten by someone. The Tailed Beasts were shown to bleed, Gyuki's horn got cut off and Kin&Gin were swallowed by Kurama and they ate flesh from its stomach. The Tailed Beasts aren't hollow, nor is there some chakra ocean inside, they have blood and organs apparently.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:33, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah but this way plot Naruto will not work out. And i did not say that TB holow inside - i said on fingers: Tailed Best flesh made from Tailed Best chakra and that's true considering Hagoromo just used CoaT on TT chakra. This is my last post here since we are going into offtop, so i will wait till you find some argument to at least build base for your claims - you don't have it atm. So have a nice day. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 13:52, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

As far as the official definition of jinchuuriki goes, Naruto is not of theirs. People rather assume it was broadened to mean other things than that Sasuke was wrong. And as far as the phenomenon that took place goes, no sealing of actual physical Tailed Beasts took place. Naruto is hence not their jinchuuriki.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 14:16, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Well Kishimoto broadened the term when he made Sasuke use it.--Kuroiraikou (talk) 14:39, August 11, 2015 (UTC)
Or he made Sasuke wrong.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 14:56, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Except, after the Ten-Tails' story was retconned. Hagoromo himself would only be a Jinchuriki via having the chakra sealed into himself. As it was stated that the body of the Ten-Tails (Gedo Mazou) was sealed into what became known as the Moon. Then Hamura and the rest of the clan departed to live on it and protect the husk of the beast. While Hagoromo was classified as it's Jinchuriki, and later extracted it's chakra from himself and created the nine Tailed Beasts from it. The fact that Naruto is called the Jinchuriki of all the Tailed Beasts towards the end of the Manga, on top of Hagoromo's story being retconned with him being in similar circumstances to Naruto. It doesn't make any sense for Kishimoto to make Sasuke spew incorrect information at the end of the Manga to confuse readers. Naruto may not have their actual bodies, but their chakra is all he needs to be their meeting ground as Hagoromo said himself. Also, your examples on Naruto being the Jin of all those people is wrong, he only met most of them via the Tailed Beasts telepathy psyche plane, their chakras were never ever sealed into him, only the beasts' were. Minato and Kushina are human, not beasts, their chakra clearly ran out entirely and dissipated. Their circumstances are different.

When Naruto called on the chakra of each of the beasts, only one beasts appeared at a time, until he called on all of them at once when using their chakras all at once. Naruto never used SPSM at all in The Last, and he only ever uses their chakras in that mode. So of course they would be absent in The Last, in Gaiden, he only used Kurama. That also isn't proof, as why would he call on all of the beasts and go all out against a single Shin clone? As for the Boruto movie, I don't know, I haven't seen it yet. But basically what I'm trying to say is that absence is not equivalent to not having it. Overall, the end of the Manga says Naruto is the Jinchuriki of all the beasts, and nothing else has said he isn't. We're suppose to take the words of the Manga over anything else, not what we personally think. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 16:43, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

It's little offtopic, but sure. Problem is, Kurama said Gedo Mazo kept him alive after he extracted the chakra and made him and the other beasts and only then sent her to the skies as the moon. Yet, it's also shown and said that Ten-Tails was sent into the skies as a moon right after they defeated her, it's a known plothole. There are basically 2 versions of the events, both incompatible with each other. But just to answer, either way, the cases are different.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 17:05, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah that's true, but wouldn't the words of Hagoromo himself and the databook > Kurama's (or maybe it was Gyuki) words? All of those other versions of Hagormo's story were either said by Obito, Madara, or Kurama. With the first two obviously having it wrong since the tablet they got that from was tampered by Black Zetsu. Kurama is the most reliable out of them all, but he was basically a newborn around that time. He probably didn't remember the whole story or got some of it wrong. Of course I cannot prove that, but after what Hagoromo said and what the most recent databook said it contradicts what was said earlier in the Manga. So it was most likely a retcon and we know that Obito and Madara were wrong anyway.--Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 17:19, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Part III & Part IV Profile PicsEdit

I think it’s time we seriously put profile pics in for Part III and Part IV, “The Last” takes place in Part III and everyone sports a new look so even if you don’t accept the Hiden and “The Last” as a “Part III” having a profile pic for “The Last” is warranted enough given that everyone has a new look. Part IV is also a better phrase than “Epilogue” given it’s the beginning of the NextGen’s story. Other wikis like the Portuguese Naruto wiki are already making this change and I think we should too. Even if it just goes “Part I, Part II, The Last, Epilogue” but simply stating them as “Part I, II, III, IV” would probably be a lot easier especially since the Hiden series will probably get animated and the likelihood of the NextGen getting some form of animation. Shock Dragoon (talk) 17:24, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Part I and II are official classifications given by Kishi himself. He named them such at the end of Part I, where he declared Naruto would be split between a part one and two. There is no Part III, IV, V, or beyond. That is the stuff of fan ficiton and nothing more. Anything beyond Part II takes place in the Blank Period, which is an Epilogue by definition. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke 23:30, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
There. Is. No. Part. III. And definitely no Part IV. Both of those are just fanmade and never confirmed by Kishi. "Part I", "Part II", and "Epilogue" were all confirmed by Kishi. Nothing else. EDIT: Forgot about Blank Period, :x WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 23:42, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
If anything I think we should add "the blank period" and update the Epilogue picture, Naruto is the only one left out of an picture update to animation.— Kinglink15 (Kinglink15) 23:58, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
I simply used "Part III & Part IV" because it was easier to type WindStar, cool the jets dude. If anything you failed to read the entire statement, We could use "Blank Period" & "Epilogue". Given there are a total of FOUR different looks for the main characters for "Part I, II, Blank Period, & Epilogue" we need four profile pics. Shock Dragoon (talk) 11:37, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
Even if it just goes “Part I, Part II, The Last, Epilogue” but simply stating them as “Part I, II, III, IV” would probably be a lot easier especially since the Hiden series will probably get animated and the likelihood of the NextGen getting some form of animation.
Nice try, but I did read your statement. And that still doesn't negate the fact that "Part III" and such is fanmade and never will get in articles unless confirmed by Kishi (Or anyone that's worked with him).
Also, we don't need to stuff the infobox with too many tabbers. That's the point of "Appearance" sections, to showcase the rest. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 13:32, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
Still just think we should add "Blank Period" just to cover all four periods for the series. If we're not going to do it for all four, why bother using more than one profile pic to begin with? It just seems like given "Blank Period" sports a new look and is the end of "Part II" but before "Epilogue" it warrants it just to stay consistent. Shock Dragoon (talk) 13:41, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

WeddingEdit

Would it be worth it to create a page about Naruto and Hinata's wedding? Anchorman34 (talk) 11:17, September 1, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34

Not really. Not noteworthy enough to deserve an article.--JOA2011:42, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
Nope. I'm pretty sure Konoha Hiden covers that. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 12:05, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
Ok, instead of a page for it, maybe more pictures could be added to different pages?Anchorman34 (talk) 12:45, September 1, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34
...There's already plenty of pictures in different pages.--JouXIII (talk) 14:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)
^Yep. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 16:43, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

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