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== "Shipping" Page ==
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== Continuation of "biasedness" ==
I see Ultimite3 still hasn't change this "shipping page" or allow anyone else to post a more neutral position. Since no one willing to talk about the Elephant in the room I will, This is nothing but a Shipping page in disgiuse! There is no clear evidence on what character Kishimoto is going to pair off to another character in the series. Heck, Kishimoto still has Karin in love with Sasuke even after he trie to kill her. Both the Sakura and Hinata subsections need to be rewritten, the Sakura section more than the Hinata one. Statements like "Naruto "had" a long standing crush" and "never going to happen" are unsupported by any actual facts. The synopsis for Naruto Shippuden episode 235 in the Sakura section is a complete fraud. It is not a debate on wether or not anime is canon but the fact that it's statement that Naruto no longer loves Sakura and only wants her to be happy with Sasuke is a Lie! The following is an actual exerpt from that Episode.
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:it showed everyone's panel before hers, hers was only placed last, look at chapter 677 pages 10 - 14, hers is only placed last, then they show Naruto with "!!" trying to rush out. He never mentions it was Hinata and Naruto IS NOT TELEPATHIC, he sensed everyone in danger, that is why they showed everyone before her, and then hers last. It's common SENSE, and you all seem to forget that all Hinata says is "Naruto-kun" of course she'd say it here, and for your information, Naruto sensed it with his senjutsu (it was activated) so please. You’re giving Hinata way too much credit when Naruto’s bond with her isn’t even that deep in comparison to people like Shikamaru, Gaara, and Tsunade who also got caught in the genjutsu. Why are their relationship stuff even shorter than hers? smt and you're forgetting that the same time she was being tied up, everyone else was also.
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:Im not being biased, im just trying to post more important things between him and Sakura's, give me ONE relationship where it is as progressed as theirs that's gone from part 1 to part 2 with so much changes? that's why I put that there, and it's stated in chapter 43, page 14...tell me who supports his dream before this chapter? and Im not talking about Hinata's made-up filler past in the pein arc, Hinata first appears in the chunin exams along with the other rookies, so technically, Sakura really is the first to support his dreams, that's important, and the first to verbally encourage him and believe in him, when everyone doubted him at the chunin exams against Kiba, even Hinata did, and out of the rookie 9, she is the first to know about the 9 tails, proof in chapter 261, and she even wants to remove it from him.
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:I re-did the whole Sakura saving his life cause you left out a few things...you said she was forced to, which she wasn't..you put something about not letting her friend die, when in the manga, she says she wont let him die and that his dream is right in front of them..there's also the part after all that where she doesn't trust Obito with Naruto...that's important too..then there's a part way back where Sakura finds out about jinchurikis and what happens to them after extracted and she goes on to ask how to remove a biju, which shows she wanted to remove it from him..and then the part where she selflessly runs to Naruto to try and bring him back to his senses by wanting to get Sasuke back herself if it meant he wouldn't become the monster he was becoming, and then he hits her, and the impact that has on him after being told that he did that unconsciously..
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:You guys even skipped out on why Naruto tried so hard in part 1 to save Sakura from gaara -facepalm-
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:Those are all important information..
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:I even put things like them two having an understanding of each other because no one knows the other better than they know each other, that's how progressed their relationship is and I added the whole Obito thing to show how driven Sakura is to help Naruto, and the thing with Naruto cheering her up after what Sasuke had said, cause it showed that Naruto agreeing with Sasuke affected her more and it was a scene where she thanked him
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:Yamato's words were "It's not what you do for Naruto that's important...it's how strongly you feel about him that counts...Sakura...I can tell just by looking at you....the truth is, you - " its obvious she cares about him, but why have him cut off if thats all he was going to say?
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:anyways, this really isn't supposed to be a shipping site, so who knows what he meant, im just trying to say be fair. and also, why is it on Sasuke's section, you guys put only Sasuke was the one to save Sakura from the ten tail clone? Naruto did too you know
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:And why did you guys add a filler moment with Ino almost falling for him there? does filler really count in his relationships? unless it's on another character's page?
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:anyways, like I said before, Im not trying to be biased, this was brought to my attention, that some NH/SS fans were putting biased things on this website and i went to check it out and noticed that you were. At the end of the day, it's called "Naruto" and this is an information site about everything Naruto related, not pairing wars. --[[User:Momochanx3|Momochanx3]] ([[User talk:Momochanx3|talk]]) 18:48, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::For someone who's 'unbiased', you sure do have a preference towards Naruto and Sakura's relationship. In fact, I checked your edits, and almost all support that trend. A piece of advice for you: if you wanna preach about who's biased and who's not, at least try not to be blatantly so yourself... oh, and this is a talk page, not a rant page. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 00:40, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Atrix, though I agree Momochan is a bit biased, '''I don't think he was ranting'''. He was countering my argument, or possibly the wiki's.
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:::Momochan, if all those are true (and thank you for providing sources) then I agree with you that they should be added to Sakura's part of the page.
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:::But, I still disagree with you on some points: Iruka/jiraiya and Hinata (I am very, very sure Kishimoto intended for her to be one of the first of Naruto's followers, ''ALONG WITH Sakura'') I think were the first to support his dream, and Sakura grew to follow it as well.
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:::I continue to disagree with you about the "telepathy" thing you addressed early in your argument. Though you ''may be correct'', there is no proof that he was reacting to the entire alliance instead of only Hinata.
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:::Finally, I said early in this argument that you tend to be a bit biased. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but that's the reality.
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:::I suggest we get an administrator/sysop/whatever of the wiki to include the facts that are verified as non-speculation/bias to the Sakura part of the page.
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:::If they are true, then they will be added (hopefully. I don't want to give any guarantees.).
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:::I'll support you if you try to be unbiased and if you stop with the "telepathy" and who-was-the-first-follower-of-Naruto stuff, and if you agree not to delete anything from Hinata's part of the page.
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:::I would very much appreciate if we came to a mutual agreement.
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:::Yours Truly, --[[User:Plane in the Desert|Plane in the Desert]] ([[User talk:Plane in the Desert|talk]]) 01:10, August 26, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert
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::::Oh right. This was a thing. Fantastic.
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::::To start, 4k bytes was ''never'' going to stay on this page. Partially because that's a friggin lot. Partially because a lot of what's there practically meaningless. There is absolutely no reason to add super detailed of every interaction between the two of them, because for one, it will make things quite friggin big. On the other, a lot of those can very easily be summed up with a sentence. "Over the course of Part II the two had grown very close." or something like that gets the point across just as much as going into such a minor detail as her healing his arm and feeding him.
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::::If anything the fact that in your 4k edit you removed a picture of Hinata (then proceeded to make Sakura dominate the page) will obviously make people question your stance of nonbiasedness. But I look at it differently and notice that while you made Sakura's relationship dominate the page, the the one relationship he had that truly dominated the series was left untouched; Sasuke Uchiha.
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::::That said, the telepathy thing I was certain wasn't supposed to be added to the article and will be removed.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:53, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:Alright, I admit, I'm a NaruSaku fan -shrug-, and people were telling me that after a certain episode came out, the wiki got biased so I went to see, and of course I would check Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke and Hinata's and boy oh boy
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:You're saying the whole Hinata thing was Naruto hearing her? let me ask you a question...when pein attacked the village right?..and Sakura called out for Naruto to come back to the village...did he hear her too? or did he sense it all happening with his senjutsu and appeared? I didn't know he was telepathic :o -facepalm- Naruto's not a yamanaka or has some spiritual connection to Hinata. He didn't even know what was happening the next chapter, and he never said he heard someone in danger or anything. When he is told what was going on he says "then everyone is" not "then Hinata is" why? cause he sensed it, he sensed people in danger.
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:I didn't even know what to add in Sasuke's part, but on his page, I made it similar to what you put for Naruto trying to save Sakura from the ten tailed clone, because he wasn't the only one, and you guys know that.
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:And really? Sakura follows? when IN THE MANGA (and not the anime) she actually is the first of the rookie 9 to support his dream of becoming Hokage. like I said, lol, Hinata appears in the chunin exams, we dont see her before that time, so please.
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:Im not even not gonna stop cause its the truth and common sense. the rest of the rookie 9 follows, the only not to yet is Sasuke..
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:I'm not even being biased, im being fair, why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru? Tsunade? Gaara? because she "loves" him? She has every single moment of those two up, yet you're not biased right? aha
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:So putting things like how progressed their relationship is is biased too? but it is the most progressed...does that bother you guys? it's the truth. [[User:Momochanx3|Momochanx3]] ([[User talk:Momochanx3|talk]]) 14:05, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
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::"why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru?" Wow, the fact that you think you're not biased is... just incredible. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 14:22, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
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:::This discussion stops now. It is leading us nowhere and, quite frankly, none of this helps to improve the wiki at all. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:19, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
"Naruto" I mean, I don't know anything about marriage and stuff, but don't you have to love someone and be attracted to each other?
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== Hagoromo ==
"Shizuki" That's
 
"Naruto" I have a girl I love named Sakura. Well actually, its one-sided on my part. Sakura is totally in love a guy named Sasuke. She tries so hard, chasing after him and trying to win his love. When she's at it, her smile is the cutest thing. There no explaining it. Before I realizes it, I was in love with her. I would never try to force her to love me. I'd be no different that guy just now if I did. So I made up my mind. In the same way that Sakura tries so hard to win Sasuke over, I'm going to do my best to win Sakura over.
 
   
Does this sound like Naruto just wants to be friends with Sakura? Nope, it does not. To address the comments by Michma12, Kishimoto's comments in the interview on Road to Ninja refer to the Mirrorverse version of Naruto characters not about the plot or any Naruto/Sakura moments. The ninth Naruto "Road to Ninja" movie does count as canon for the following reasons, The tie-in anime episode Road to Sakura. Both Naruto anime series are an expansion of canon not against it, at least in this anime series. There is also the special Zero issue of the actual manga that is a prequel to the movie. Thus making it's content's like Naruto still in love with Sakura canon. Also the controversy about Kushina's last words was about the fact there are three different versions of the second to last line of her last words. In the American manga release it states "don't fall for the first girl that comes your way" meaning pro-Hinata but in the actual Manga version it states a "weird one" instead, meaning pro-Sakura and the anime version simply states "a bad one" which is neutral. In Japanesse bad is Warui, weird is Kikai, and first is Saisho Hajime or Ichiban. Since the American version is highly rewritten by Viz Media the US version is very much in doubt given it's polciy of changing what is original written by Kishimoto. It was also pointed out to you, Michma12 on your talkpage months before by some else. Please don't try to pass off your personal opinions as facts.
 
   
Masashi Kishimoto really needs to settle the pairing debate soon. Zombie armies and giant monster brawels are all good but the whole Sasuke/Sakura/Naruto/Hinata love quadrangle and all it's branches has to resolved before the arguements between fans make fandom anymore toxic, It's driving all freaking nuts! --[[User:BrennanMulcahey|BrennanMulcahey]] ([[User talk:BrennanMulcahey|talk]]) 09:53, November 23, 2012 (UTC)[[User:BrennanMulcahey]]
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Though they've known each other for other a few minutes, is Hagoromo worth a section or mention on this page?--[[User:Hockey Machete|Hockey Machete]] ([[User talk:Hockey Machete|talk]]) 04:52, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
BrennanMulcahey, you truly are an idiot aren't you? Did you know that there are two versions of that anime episode? One with what you said happened and another where the words say that he knows it's one sided but is happy so long as she's happy. However, one was taken down do to controversial reasons. If Naruto didn't say these words in the manga, they aren't canon. As much as you want it to be, bitch and moan as loud as you can, it isn't canon. Naruto has shown deep feelings for Sakura, yes I'll agree, but to what extent hasn't been fully elaborated or confirmed. In Sai's opinion he thinks Naruto is in love with Sakura, but realizes it may not be to the extent he thought it was. But that means squat when the girl doesn't have the same feelings for him and is in love with a guy she'll most likely still be in love with even if he's dead, an example being Tsunade and Dan.
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== Sasuke-Friend ==
   
Though I will agree that the Sakura and Hinata things should be revised later on. However, despite Hinata's lack of screen time, several of those moments, unlike Sakura, portrays about their relationship. That isn't to say that Sakura's relationship isn't important either, just that certain moments are repetition and whatnot, and are later seen as irrelevant when new occurrences occur that contradict those moments. Same with Hinata.
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Should we move Sasuke to the friend section due to Chpter 698? Seeing as how Obito was moved, I don't see a reason why not
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[[User:Jtw2014|Jtw2014]] ([[User talk:Jtw2014|talk]]) 22:15, October 29, 2014 (UTC)Jtw2014
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:Obito was moved to the "Others" section. • [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] {{Mod}} [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]] [[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 22:17, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
   
Theres also the fact that movies and filler episodes aren't canon to the manga storyline, the manga part for Road to Ninja was nothing more than a way to advertise the movie. Kishimoto stated that some elements from filler inspire him but nothing more. Also like I said before, when elements from the anime clash with the manga we go with the manga version instead. Kishimoto stated it was fun to make, but was still not canon! Also Kushina's words were this "Try not to fall for a weird one... try to find someone like your mother." And Minato was laughing/smiling in the next scene because it was humorous. Why? Because he knows that Kushina was a weird girl when she was younger. Can you honestly say that Kushina was a normal kid or teenager? I don't think so. You also need to realize that certain love/crush moments Naruto had for Sakura were flashbacks to way back to close to early middle of Shippuden. It is possible they changed. Give hard evidence and I'll accept it. Till then stop being a big baby and grow up.--[[User:Michma12|Michma12]] ([[User talk:Michma12|talk]]) 21:49, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
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== Enemies ==
   
Honestly I think you're both over thinking this. Certainly opinions on Sakura or Hinata in terms of their relationship with Naruto are going to be confused and jaded from fan perspectives, making writing a totally unbiased article about it difficult. Similarly so since we don't know what resolution Kishimoto is intending. I'm still pissed at the guy for Naruto running out on Hinata's confession, but that's just me. This however, is not the point. You're addressing only two characters on a list with over a dozen people on it. Bitch about shipping all you want, but this page is about Naruto's relationships with other important characters, not just his romantic ones, but his teachers, his parents, his friends, his rivals and even his enemies and since this isn't Fanfiction.net, I can assure you the romantic value of each one only bares mentioning in Sakura and Hinata's cases. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 23:24, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
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Once again, why don't we have the like of Madara, Zetsu and Kaguya in the enemies since it was their plan that has a huge affect on his life. [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 23:10, October 30, 2014 (UTC)
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:You haven't responded to my message on your wall so I'm tracking you so you get my message. It's something that could save you one day.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 06:21, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Family headline ==
   
== Adding info. on Sakura's Haruno part from movie: Road to Ninja ==
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Can we add the 'Family' headline that contains his parents, Hinata, and his son and daughter? [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 16:24, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I'm new here, and I really like Naruto x Hinata. Although, I think it's kind of necessary to add information of the relationship between Naruto and Sakura in the Road to Ninja movie (once it's subbed over the internet), since the story plot was directed by Kishimoto, no? What do you guys think? --[[User:MsIsamisa|&#42;MsIsamisa]] ([[User talk:MsIsamisa|talk]]) 14:09, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
I dunno, if ot was truly directed by Kishimoto, since he draw sketches about Fuu and Roshi, applying that they will be in the movie too, but in the end they weren't. Also, Kishimoto didn't confirmed it canon or took it into the timeline of the manga. He draw a special one shot, but Kubo did also for the fourth Bleach movie too, which also was "directed" by Kubo, yet didn't confrimed as canon or took into the timeline of the manga. But since people considering non-canon anime fillers as canon too, I think you can. {{Unsigned|Mangekyo22}}
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:Looks like wish granted. [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 20:35, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
Actually movies are considered non-canon and are therefore irrelevant. Kishimoto stated the film to be a fun project nothing more and nothing less. Also theres little relationship between them than what has already been shown in the past. So no its not needed. {{Unsigned|Michma12}}
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::Maybe add Hanabi, depending on "The Last" movie? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 04:18, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
   
Speaking of non-canon, as of right now, I believe the anime filler part in Sakura's section is totally irrelevant to the entire canonical flow. I propose that it should be removed. [[User:KazeKitsune|KazeKitsune]] ([[User talk:KazeKitsune|talk]]) 03:00, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
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:: and also when the new picture comes out, pics of his old and new family? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 01:59, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
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::[[:File:Naruto's family.png|Naruto's family. Old....]] Something like this and the image of naruto's new family with hinata? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 03:23, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
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:: never mind.
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== Relationship page for all? ==
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I know we might have already talked about and decided against this, but with the series coming to somewhat of an end, and a great amount of ships sunken, maybe it's time we tried to give all the characters, major ones and minor major ones at least, a relationship page like Naruto's, maybe? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 00:46, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:I'd argue against it. The only reason Naruto has one at all is because the original draft of this article was all stuffed into his Personality section. Making a relationship page for each character seems unnecessary, especially since all the other characters only really interact with 1 or 2 other characters, as opposed to Naruto's every damn body.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:05, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::Maybe. Just a thought. [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 01:10, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I would argue this page is already being too free with the word "relationship". No reason to reproduce the problem for other characters. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 05:04, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Hmm…maybe not for ''every'' character. I'd go for a section in the character's own article, under the "Personality" one, and if it gets too long we could go for an actual page. But to be honest, I fail to see many characters getting a relationships page, besides Naruto (which we already have), Sasuke and a very few others.--[[File:Nature Icon Blood.svg|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JOA20]][[User:JOA20|'''JOA''']][[User talk:JOA20|''20'']] 09:24, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::No, we're not making a page like this for every other character. Naruto is an exception because his page is the longest on the wiki. Just no. Hell no. Jesus christ no. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 12:53, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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::::::I normally even don't participate in conversations unless I feel need to, but I also agree with everyone else. No. 100% no.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:09, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
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== Should Naruto's love confession or his marriage proposal be put under Hinata's declaration of love? ==
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Just thinking it'd make it a bit more complete to put Naruto's feelings in under Hinata's love declaration.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 09:10, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:Not really, NaruHina fan. ;) I'm sure readers will get the message when they read "Naruto reciprocated Hinata's feelings." ~•[[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WS7125'''''</font>]]<sub><span title="This user helps the wiki by moderating the forums and the chat">[Mod]</span></sub>[[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]][[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 14:59, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:: Seems a LOT less complete in that way though, Windstar. We have Naruto's feelings for Hinata released, I think that should be placed under Hinata's confession or replaced it.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 00:51, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

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Continuation of "biasedness" Edit

it showed everyone's panel before hers, hers was only placed last, look at chapter 677 pages 10 - 14, hers is only placed last, then they show Naruto with "!!" trying to rush out. He never mentions it was Hinata and Naruto IS NOT TELEPATHIC, he sensed everyone in danger, that is why they showed everyone before her, and then hers last. It's common SENSE, and you all seem to forget that all Hinata says is "Naruto-kun" of course she'd say it here, and for your information, Naruto sensed it with his senjutsu (it was activated) so please. You’re giving Hinata way too much credit when Naruto’s bond with her isn’t even that deep in comparison to people like Shikamaru, Gaara, and Tsunade who also got caught in the genjutsu. Why are their relationship stuff even shorter than hers? smt and you're forgetting that the same time she was being tied up, everyone else was also.
Im not being biased, im just trying to post more important things between him and Sakura's, give me ONE relationship where it is as progressed as theirs that's gone from part 1 to part 2 with so much changes? that's why I put that there, and it's stated in chapter 43, page 14...tell me who supports his dream before this chapter? and Im not talking about Hinata's made-up filler past in the pein arc, Hinata first appears in the chunin exams along with the other rookies, so technically, Sakura really is the first to support his dreams, that's important, and the first to verbally encourage him and believe in him, when everyone doubted him at the chunin exams against Kiba, even Hinata did, and out of the rookie 9, she is the first to know about the 9 tails, proof in chapter 261, and she even wants to remove it from him.
I re-did the whole Sakura saving his life cause you left out a few things...you said she was forced to, which she wasn't..you put something about not letting her friend die, when in the manga, she says she wont let him die and that his dream is right in front of them..there's also the part after all that where she doesn't trust Obito with Naruto...that's important too..then there's a part way back where Sakura finds out about jinchurikis and what happens to them after extracted and she goes on to ask how to remove a biju, which shows she wanted to remove it from him..and then the part where she selflessly runs to Naruto to try and bring him back to his senses by wanting to get Sasuke back herself if it meant he wouldn't become the monster he was becoming, and then he hits her, and the impact that has on him after being told that he did that unconsciously..
You guys even skipped out on why Naruto tried so hard in part 1 to save Sakura from gaara -facepalm-
Those are all important information..
I even put things like them two having an understanding of each other because no one knows the other better than they know each other, that's how progressed their relationship is and I added the whole Obito thing to show how driven Sakura is to help Naruto, and the thing with Naruto cheering her up after what Sasuke had said, cause it showed that Naruto agreeing with Sasuke affected her more and it was a scene where she thanked him
Yamato's words were "It's not what you do for Naruto that's important...it's how strongly you feel about him that counts...Sakura...I can tell just by looking at you....the truth is, you - " its obvious she cares about him, but why have him cut off if thats all he was going to say?
anyways, this really isn't supposed to be a shipping site, so who knows what he meant, im just trying to say be fair. and also, why is it on Sasuke's section, you guys put only Sasuke was the one to save Sakura from the ten tail clone? Naruto did too you know
And why did you guys add a filler moment with Ino almost falling for him there? does filler really count in his relationships? unless it's on another character's page?
anyways, like I said before, Im not trying to be biased, this was brought to my attention, that some NH/SS fans were putting biased things on this website and i went to check it out and noticed that you were. At the end of the day, it's called "Naruto" and this is an information site about everything Naruto related, not pairing wars. --Momochanx3 (talk) 18:48, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
For someone who's 'unbiased', you sure do have a preference towards Naruto and Sakura's relationship. In fact, I checked your edits, and almost all support that trend. A piece of advice for you: if you wanna preach about who's biased and who's not, at least try not to be blatantly so yourself... oh, and this is a talk page, not a rant page. --Atrix471 (talk) 00:40, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Atrix, though I agree Momochan is a bit biased, I don't think he was ranting. He was countering my argument, or possibly the wiki's.
Momochan, if all those are true (and thank you for providing sources) then I agree with you that they should be added to Sakura's part of the page.
But, I still disagree with you on some points: Iruka/jiraiya and Hinata (I am very, very sure Kishimoto intended for her to be one of the first of Naruto's followers, ALONG WITH Sakura) I think were the first to support his dream, and Sakura grew to follow it as well.
I continue to disagree with you about the "telepathy" thing you addressed early in your argument. Though you may be correct, there is no proof that he was reacting to the entire alliance instead of only Hinata.
Finally, I said early in this argument that you tend to be a bit biased. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but that's the reality.
I suggest we get an administrator/sysop/whatever of the wiki to include the facts that are verified as non-speculation/bias to the Sakura part of the page.
If they are true, then they will be added (hopefully. I don't want to give any guarantees.).
I'll support you if you try to be unbiased and if you stop with the "telepathy" and who-was-the-first-follower-of-Naruto stuff, and if you agree not to delete anything from Hinata's part of the page.
I would very much appreciate if we came to a mutual agreement.
Yours Truly, --Plane in the Desert (talk) 01:10, August 26, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert
Oh right. This was a thing. Fantastic.
To start, 4k bytes was never going to stay on this page. Partially because that's a friggin lot. Partially because a lot of what's there practically meaningless. There is absolutely no reason to add super detailed of every interaction between the two of them, because for one, it will make things quite friggin big. On the other, a lot of those can very easily be summed up with a sentence. "Over the course of Part II the two had grown very close." or something like that gets the point across just as much as going into such a minor detail as her healing his arm and feeding him.
If anything the fact that in your 4k edit you removed a picture of Hinata (then proceeded to make Sakura dominate the page) will obviously make people question your stance of nonbiasedness. But I look at it differently and notice that while you made Sakura's relationship dominate the page, the the one relationship he had that truly dominated the series was left untouched; Sasuke Uchiha.
That said, the telepathy thing I was certain wasn't supposed to be added to the article and will be removed.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 09:53, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I admit, I'm a NaruSaku fan -shrug-, and people were telling me that after a certain episode came out, the wiki got biased so I went to see, and of course I would check Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke and Hinata's and boy oh boy
You're saying the whole Hinata thing was Naruto hearing her? let me ask you a question...when pein attacked the village right?..and Sakura called out for Naruto to come back to the village...did he hear her too? or did he sense it all happening with his senjutsu and appeared? I didn't know he was telepathic :o -facepalm- Naruto's not a yamanaka or has some spiritual connection to Hinata. He didn't even know what was happening the next chapter, and he never said he heard someone in danger or anything. When he is told what was going on he says "then everyone is" not "then Hinata is" why? cause he sensed it, he sensed people in danger.
I didn't even know what to add in Sasuke's part, but on his page, I made it similar to what you put for Naruto trying to save Sakura from the ten tailed clone, because he wasn't the only one, and you guys know that.
And really? Sakura follows? when IN THE MANGA (and not the anime) she actually is the first of the rookie 9 to support his dream of becoming Hokage. like I said, lol, Hinata appears in the chunin exams, we dont see her before that time, so please.
Im not even not gonna stop cause its the truth and common sense. the rest of the rookie 9 follows, the only not to yet is Sasuke..
I'm not even being biased, im being fair, why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru? Tsunade? Gaara? because she "loves" him? She has every single moment of those two up, yet you're not biased right? aha
So putting things like how progressed their relationship is is biased too? but it is the most progressed...does that bother you guys? it's the truth. Momochanx3 (talk) 14:05, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
"why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru?" Wow, the fact that you think you're not biased is... just incredible. --Atrix471 (talk) 14:22, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
This discussion stops now. It is leading us nowhere and, quite frankly, none of this helps to improve the wiki at all. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 14:19, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hagoromo Edit

Though they've known each other for other a few minutes, is Hagoromo worth a section or mention on this page?--Hockey Machete (talk) 04:52, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke-Friend Edit

Should we move Sasuke to the friend section due to Chpter 698? Seeing as how Obito was moved, I don't see a reason why not Jtw2014 (talk) 22:15, October 29, 2014 (UTC)Jtw2014

Obito was moved to the "Others" section. • WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 22:17, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Enemies Edit

Once again, why don't we have the like of Madara, Zetsu and Kaguya in the enemies since it was their plan that has a huge affect on his life. Justin Holland (talk) 23:10, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

You haven't responded to my message on your wall so I'm tracking you so you get my message. It's something that could save you one day.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 06:21, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Family headline Edit

Can we add the 'Family' headline that contains his parents, Hinata, and his son and daughter? KazeKitsune (talk) 16:24, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Looks like wish granted. Justin Holland (talk) 20:35, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe add Hanabi, depending on "The Last" movie? Justin Holland (talk) 04:18, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
and also when the new picture comes out, pics of his old and new family? Justin Holland (talk) 01:59, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Naruto's family. Old.... Something like this and the image of naruto's new family with hinata? Justin Holland (talk) 03:23, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
never mind.

Relationship page for all? Edit

I know we might have already talked about and decided against this, but with the series coming to somewhat of an end, and a great amount of ships sunken, maybe it's time we tried to give all the characters, major ones and minor major ones at least, a relationship page like Naruto's, maybe? Justin Holland (talk) 00:46, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

I'd argue against it. The only reason Naruto has one at all is because the original draft of this article was all stuffed into his Personality section. Making a relationship page for each character seems unnecessary, especially since all the other characters only really interact with 1 or 2 other characters, as opposed to Naruto's every damn body.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 01:05, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe. Just a thought. Justin Holland (talk) 01:10, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
I would argue this page is already being too free with the word "relationship". No reason to reproduce the problem for other characters. ~SnapperTo 05:04, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
Hmm…maybe not for every character. I'd go for a section in the character's own article, under the "Personality" one, and if it gets too long we could go for an actual page. But to be honest, I fail to see many characters getting a relationships page, besides Naruto (which we already have), Sasuke and a very few others.--Nature Icon BloodJOA20 09:24, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
No, we're not making a page like this for every other character. Naruto is an exception because his page is the longest on the wiki. Just no. Hell no. Jesus christ no. --Sajuuk [Moderator] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 12:53, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
I normally even don't participate in conversations unless I feel need to, but I also agree with everyone else. No. 100% no.--NinjaSheik 21:09, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Should Naruto's love confession or his marriage proposal be put under Hinata's declaration of love? Edit

Just thinking it'd make it a bit more complete to put Naruto's feelings in under Hinata's love declaration.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 09:10, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Not really, NaruHina fan. ;) I'm sure readers will get the message when they read "Naruto reciprocated Hinata's feelings." ~•WS7125[Mod]WindStar7125 TaskWindStar7125's Task 14:59, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
Seems a LOT less complete in that way though, Windstar. We have Naruto's feelings for Hinata released, I think that should be placed under Hinata's confession or replaced it.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 00:51, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

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