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== Needed? ==
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Why was this page even created? Anyone who watches the anime or more importantly reads the manga knows the relation of every character with another, any special behaviour/attitude gets noted on their personality section why should this page exist? [[Special:Contributions/119.154.23.198|119.154.23.198]] ([[User talk:119.154.23.198|talk]]) 13:25, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:We've discussed that these types of pages causes shipping wars and even worse is just not needed. --[[User:KiumaruHamachi|KiumaruHamachi]] ([[User talk:KiumaruHamachi|talk]]) 13:47, March 29, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 
::@Anon: This is better than putting it everything on Naruto's article. But for the beginners this will be helpful. Bleach wiki used this style before and it helped me when I'm starting to watch Bleach. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[w:c:Naruto:User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 14:06, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::It just cramps the style of this wiki and thats no excuse that the Bleach wiki started doing it. [[Special:Contributions/119.154.23.198|119.154.23.198]] ([[User talk:119.154.23.198|talk]]) 14:08, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Well that's your opinion. Who told you I'm using Bleach wiki as excuse? I'm just USING IT as AN EXAMPLE, not an excuse. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[w:c:Naruto:User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 14:10, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::I'm okay with this page's existence. I don't see any real problems with it. It could help cut down the length of Naruto's article a bit. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 14:40, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
There is no need for shipping pages like this?! And if this would be much easier than write them to the character's profile, why didn't you made to ALL characters?
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== Continuation of "biasedness" ==
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:it showed everyone's panel before hers, hers was only placed last, look at chapter 677 pages 10 - 14, hers is only placed last, then they show Naruto with "!!" trying to rush out. He never mentions it was Hinata and Naruto IS NOT TELEPATHIC, he sensed everyone in danger, that is why they showed everyone before her, and then hers last. It's common SENSE, and you all seem to forget that all Hinata says is "Naruto-kun" of course she'd say it here, and for your information, Naruto sensed it with his senjutsu (it was activated) so please. You’re giving Hinata way too much credit when Naruto’s bond with her isn’t even that deep in comparison to people like Shikamaru, Gaara, and Tsunade who also got caught in the genjutsu. Why are their relationship stuff even shorter than hers? smt and you're forgetting that the same time she was being tied up, everyone else was also.
This page should be deleted, before somebody would belive this wikia page is only just a group of shipping fanservice gays. {{Unsigned|Mangekyo22}}
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:Im not being biased, im just trying to post more important things between him and Sakura's, give me ONE relationship where it is as progressed as theirs that's gone from part 1 to part 2 with so much changes? that's why I put that there, and it's stated in chapter 43, page 14...tell me who supports his dream before this chapter? and Im not talking about Hinata's made-up filler past in the pein arc, Hinata first appears in the chunin exams along with the other rookies, so technically, Sakura really is the first to support his dreams, that's important, and the first to verbally encourage him and believe in him, when everyone doubted him at the chunin exams against Kiba, even Hinata did, and out of the rookie 9, she is the first to know about the 9 tails, proof in chapter 261, and she even wants to remove it from him.
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:I re-did the whole Sakura saving his life cause you left out a few things...you said she was forced to, which she wasn't..you put something about not letting her friend die, when in the manga, she says she wont let him die and that his dream is right in front of them..there's also the part after all that where she doesn't trust Obito with Naruto...that's important too..then there's a part way back where Sakura finds out about jinchurikis and what happens to them after extracted and she goes on to ask how to remove a biju, which shows she wanted to remove it from him..and then the part where she selflessly runs to Naruto to try and bring him back to his senses by wanting to get Sasuke back herself if it meant he wouldn't become the monster he was becoming, and then he hits her, and the impact that has on him after being told that he did that unconsciously..
:What are "Shipping Wars"?[[User:Man-o-Vertigo|Man-o-Vertigo]] ([[User talk:Man-o-Vertigo|talk]]) 14:55, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:You guys even skipped out on why Naruto tried so hard in part 1 to save Sakura from gaara -facepalm-
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:Those are all important information..
@Mangekyo22: I don't see any reason at all to delete this article. If the admins don't want it, they will delete the article. IMO, this will help in reducing Naruto's article because it takes about a minute to load all the content on it. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 14:57, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:I even put things like them two having an understanding of each other because no one knows the other better than they know each other, that's how progressed their relationship is and I added the whole Obito thing to show how driven Sakura is to help Naruto, and the thing with Naruto cheering her up after what Sasuke had said, cause it showed that Naruto agreeing with Sasuke affected her more and it was a scene where she thanked him
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:Yamato's words were "It's not what you do for Naruto that's important...it's how strongly you feel about him that counts...Sakura...I can tell just by looking at you....the truth is, you - " its obvious she cares about him, but why have him cut off if thats all he was going to say?
Why, aren't you an admin? Back to this unnesecary page, if you just don't want to make Naruto's profile making long, then delete all the unnesecary things!
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:anyways, this really isn't supposed to be a shipping site, so who knows what he meant, im just trying to say be fair. and also, why is it on Sasuke's section, you guys put only Sasuke was the one to save Sakura from the ten tail clone? Naruto did too you know
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:And why did you guys add a filler moment with Ino almost falling for him there? does filler really count in his relationships? unless it's on another character's page?
And as I said, if you do this to one character, do to ALL characters! That's how it should work! {{Unsigned|Mangekyo22}}
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:anyways, like I said before, Im not trying to be biased, this was brought to my attention, that some NH/SS fans were putting biased things on this website and i went to check it out and noticed that you were. At the end of the day, it's called "Naruto" and this is an information site about everything Naruto related, not pairing wars. --[[User:Momochanx3|Momochanx3]] ([[User talk:Momochanx3|talk]]) 18:48, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
:@Mangekyo22 Please remember to sign your posts by adding four of these ~ after your post. Anyway, There's no need to delete a ton of stuff from Naruto's page when moving the information here is a seemly better alternative. I believe the page is fine, but I suppose the admins have the final say.
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::For someone who's 'unbiased', you sure do have a preference towards Naruto and Sakura's relationship. In fact, I checked your edits, and almost all support that trend. A piece of advice for you: if you wanna preach about who's biased and who's not, at least try not to be blatantly so yourself... oh, and this is a talk page, not a rant page. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 00:40, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
:Edit: If this article stays, I think we should limit it to some of the more important relationships, as the article currently does. Also, Mangekyo22, you do not delete page content like that. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 15:10, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Atrix, though I agree Momochan is a bit biased, '''I don't think he was ranting'''. He was countering my argument, or possibly the wiki's.
::The reason is simple. Naruto's personality section was long. Very very long. Most of the information in it did not pertain to his personality, but his relationship with various people. Instead of cutting all that info completely, it was simply moved to a more suitable place.
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:::Momochan, if all those are true (and thank you for providing sources) then I agree with you that they should be added to Sakura's part of the page.
::The article is '''NOT''' ment to be some sort of shipping article. I must admit, I probably thought way to highly of people in this day and age, but I assumed people were logical enough to know "relationship" does not mean "romance".--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Keeper of Lore~ ]] 15:13, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::But, I still disagree with you on some points: Iruka/jiraiya and Hinata (I am very, very sure Kishimoto intended for her to be one of the first of Naruto's followers, ''ALONG WITH Sakura'') I think were the first to support his dream, and Sakura grew to follow it as well.
:::What he said. ^^ --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[w:c:Naruto:User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 15:21, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::I continue to disagree with you about the "telepathy" thing you addressed early in your argument. Though you ''may be correct'', there is no proof that he was reacting to the entire alliance instead of only Hinata.
I don't see the reason why the all that even has to be on the personality article of his. If people need help of any special sort, they can read the Chapter and Episode guides that have been made. People have before asked the help of this wikia's users to elaborate the story for example: [[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Can_anybody_explain_easily_the_story_of_Naruto_upto_episode_10%3F]]. We can alter the personality article to shorten it. [[Special:Contributions/119.154.23.198|119.154.23.198]] ([[User talk:119.154.23.198|talk]]) 15:53, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Finally, I said early in this argument that you tend to be a bit biased. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but that's the reality.
:Not all people read the guide, and I'm one of them. That forum you're talking about, as far as I know, violated the policies. We are an encyclopedia. Forums are made to DISCUSS articles for improvement, not for stuffs like that. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime2|Ilnarutoanime]] 16:07, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::I suggest we get an administrator/sysop/whatever of the wiki to include the facts that are verified as non-speculation/bias to the Sakura part of the page.
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:::If they are true, then they will be added (hopefully. I don't want to give any guarantees.).
::That isn't a good reason as to why we should create a new one just so that you don't have to search for it or watch/read it. I used that forum to explain that people do ask stuff about relations, jutsu, etc like that look at the article and user talk pages. Instead I suggest instead of creating articles like these we shorten the Naruto page by removing anime-only arcs on character pages that would save a lot of space just like how the Adventures at Sea Arc was dealt with. Articles like these make way for all sorts of edit wars. [[User:Raymond Phoenix|Raymond Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Raymond Phoenix|talk]]) 16:22, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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:::I'll support you if you try to be unbiased and if you stop with the "telepathy" and who-was-the-first-follower-of-Naruto stuff, and if you agree not to delete anything from Hinata's part of the page.
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:::I would very much appreciate if we came to a mutual agreement.
Uhm. I tagged the article for deletion before I saw this. Nonetheless, I've always liked this wikia's stance against "relationship" (sections) for the simple reason that there's no need [in my opinion at least] to actually mention them. With the exception of [budding] romances and how they help to shape a person (like Hinata for example — which I think is unavoidable and possible Naruto's relationship with her to show his resolve and strength of character) Otherwise stuff outside of that I believe should be removed about who liking whom and who possibly likes whom not have articles created for it.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 00:33, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Yours Truly, --[[User:Plane in the Desert|Plane in the Desert]] ([[User talk:Plane in the Desert|talk]]) 01:10, August 26, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert
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::::Oh right. This was a thing. Fantastic.
:@Cerez Hopefully I didn't misread your post. This article isn't about relationships in the vein of shipping characters together, but Naruto's noteworthy relationship with characters and the progression in those relationships I believe. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 00:51, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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::::To start, 4k bytes was ''never'' going to stay on this page. Partially because that's a friggin lot. Partially because a lot of what's there practically meaningless. There is absolutely no reason to add super detailed of every interaction between the two of them, because for one, it will make things quite friggin big. On the other, a lot of those can very easily be summed up with a sentence. "Over the course of Part II the two had grown very close." or something like that gets the point across just as much as going into such a minor detail as her healing his arm and feeding him.
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::::If anything the fact that in your 4k edit you removed a picture of Hinata (then proceeded to make Sakura dominate the page) will obviously make people question your stance of nonbiasedness. But I look at it differently and notice that while you made Sakura's relationship dominate the page, the the one relationship he had that truly dominated the series was left untouched; Sasuke Uchiha.
::I meant all of those. I don't think it's necessary to be pointing out people's relationship in an article. People naturally grow and progress with people around them. If this were a soap opera or a manga more centric on something like that, then I suppose it'd be fine but for me at least, I don't think it's necessary for "''Naruto''".--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:13, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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::::That said, the telepathy thing I was certain wasn't supposed to be added to the article and will be removed.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:53, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
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:Alright, I admit, I'm a NaruSaku fan -shrug-, and people were telling me that after a certain episode came out, the wiki got biased so I went to see, and of course I would check Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke and Hinata's and boy oh boy
Why is this page needed? [[Special:Contributions/119.154.20.214|119.154.20.214]] ([[User talk:119.154.20.214|talk]]) 06:01, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:You're saying the whole Hinata thing was Naruto hearing her? let me ask you a question...when pein attacked the village right?..and Sakura called out for Naruto to come back to the village...did he hear her too? or did he sense it all happening with his senjutsu and appeared? I didn't know he was telepathic :o -facepalm- Naruto's not a yamanaka or has some spiritual connection to Hinata. He didn't even know what was happening the next chapter, and he never said he heard someone in danger or anything. When he is told what was going on he says "then everyone is" not "then Hinata is" why? cause he sensed it, he sensed people in danger.
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:I didn't even know what to add in Sasuke's part, but on his page, I made it similar to what you put for Naruto trying to save Sakura from the ten tailed clone, because he wasn't the only one, and you guys know that.
:Read the whole page above your post. It answers your question. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 06:10, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:And really? Sakura follows? when IN THE MANGA (and not the anime) she actually is the first of the rookie 9 to support his dream of becoming Hokage. like I said, lol, Hinata appears in the chunin exams, we dont see her before that time, so please.
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:Im not even not gonna stop cause its the truth and common sense. the rest of the rookie 9 follows, the only not to yet is Sasuke..
::@Cerez, this page has TWO advantages at least.
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:I'm not even being biased, im being fair, why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru? Tsunade? Gaara? because she "loves" him? She has every single moment of those two up, yet you're not biased right? aha
::First, it will shorten Naruto's personality page.
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:So putting things like how progressed their relationship is is biased too? but it is the most progressed...does that bother you guys? it's the truth. [[User:Momochanx3|Momochanx3]] ([[User talk:Momochanx3|talk]]) 14:05, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
::Second, it explains special relationships between characters.
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::"why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru?" Wow, the fact that you think you're not biased is... just incredible. --[[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 14:22, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
::At least I agree with Skitts. We should only put characters Naruto has as special friendship, and at least those who believe at him, ex. Itachi Uchiha.
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:::This discussion stops now. It is leading us nowhere and, quite frankly, none of this helps to improve the wiki at all. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:19, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
::--[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 10:05, March 30, 2012 (UTC) [Ilnarutoanime]
 
 
:::With Naruto being the title character, his page is expected to be long and there are other ways to deal with that. Collapsible sections and the pruning of the page of unnecessary stuff like that. Just browsing through the first part of this article that whole section about his parent can be found in their articles and the relevant pieces in his own.
 
:::I've already refuted the need for the relationships between characters having to be defined in articles or sections unless they affect the persons character or such directly.
 
:::There's probably going to be a myriad of articles to follow this one mentioning every person's that has ever talked to someone else.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 10:37, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::Yes, I know that it's really expected. I believe we won't do it in other characters, or just in Naruto's case. Naruto is the main character and we should always make sure to improve and emphasize his page.
 
::::For me this should be only done on Naruto's page.
 
::::--[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 10:44, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
As I explained, the page was made because as it currently is, Naruto's page was just to long. I'm sure it's just my university's ass internet, but both Naruto and Sasuke's page takes a good minute or so of loading before even reaching the page. So, in my opinion, the page needed to be shortened.
 
Then the question comes, what to do with the information. It's not wrong, and it's all relevant to Naruto's character, but titans he couldn't stay in his personality section. Thus, a page specifically for his relationships. Also using your reasoning Cerez, his interactions with other people do affect the himself and others directly, what with his whole "unique charisma" and "Talk no Jutsu" going on.
 
If you are worried about extra work being involved because of this addition, I will gladly become the Relationship Specialist (giving myself another title) and monitor whatever relationship page happens to pop up in the future on my own.--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Keeper of Lore~ ]] 11:49, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I didn't know this page existed. --[[Special:Contributions/109.93.8.59|109.93.8.59]] ([[User talk:109.93.8.59|talk]]) 14:59, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
:@TheUltimate3: our internet also load it very long. I agree with you.
 
:--[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 20:22, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So, has it been decided whether or not this page is staying? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 02:17, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:What about other people who Naruto changed thanks to his "unique charisma", such as Tsunade, Chiyo and Sai? We can't really list those as relationships, but if this page covers "Talk no Jutsu", should they be mentioned somehow? --[[User:Kiadony|kiadony]] --[[User talk:Kiadony|talk to me]]-- 06:07, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
yeah. They must be mentioned [[User:Salil dabholkar|Salil dabholkar]] ([[User talk:Salil dabholkar|talk]]) 06:13, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:@Skitts: For me this page must stay here. There is nothing wrong with the information here.
 
:@Kiadony: I think Naruto's relationship with Sai is noteworthy, but not Tsunade and Chiyo. He just changed their point of views, respectively.
 
"--[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 07:30, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Kakashi Hatake Section ==
 
I was just wondering ,why doesn't Kakashi also have a paragraph in this section? I think he and Naurto's relationship is very important to the series ,namely because he sees Naruto as Minato's successor. I dunno maybe I'm reading too much into that.--[[User:Hordy4040|Hordy4040]] ([[User talk:Hordy4040|talk]]) 02:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Yeah you're right. I never noticed it probably I removed it. He and Kakashi has a close relationship as well and Naruto regards Kakashi as one of the people who acknowledged him.
 
:--[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 20:30, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Other's who could added. ==
 
 
Out of curiosity, shouldn't we be adding Killer Bee, Choji, Ino, as well Temari and Kankuro since he made a connection to them through Gaara?--[[User:Hockey Machete|Hockey Machete]] ([[User talk:Hockey Machete|talk]]) 16:16, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
these connections are too small and unimportant to be made. Naruto has made connections with almost everyone. So this list will be never ending. [[User:Salil dabholkar|Salil dabholkar]] ([[User talk:Salil dabholkar|talk]]) 16:20, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
But some of those people were added. But Ino and some others weren't. Ino is part of the Konaha 11 so they do have an important relationship. And others have an important relationship with Naruto that aren't in this page now. Can someone add them? Like Ino, Konan, Kankuro and Temari? (PLEASE ANSWER!) [[User:Chix777|Chix777]] ([[User talk:Chix777|talk]])
 
 
== Killer B ==
 
 
Just a question. But shouldn't Killer B be listed too? [[User:NarutoAnime|NarutoAnime]] ([[User talk:NarutoAnime|talk]]) 18:09, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Personally, I don't think so. Not yet anyway. I think we should only have his more outstanding relationships on the article. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 19:26, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Zabuza and Haku ==
 
What about these two? even i they didnt have enough appearance in the series it was thanks to them that Naruto follows his current path
 
--[[User:Haseo55|Haseo55]] ([[User talk:Haseo55|talk]]) 03:47, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Slow down ==
 
 
C'mon people, just because it's a page listing his relationships, it doesn't mean we need to list every person he has ever talked to. For example, he has never had important or relevant talks with Ino, Chōji, Tenten and Guy, yet someone added section headings for those people. Keep it down to big and relevant relationships, people who changed him and people who were changed by him. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:39, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Shikamaru ==
 
 
Shouldn't we include how Sikamaru said that whenever he's with Naruto, there's something that makes him want to follow him? I forgot what episode it was on, but it's when shikamaru comes home and he talks to his father about Naruto. It was in the Invasion of Pain Arc when Inoichi asks Shikaku why he let Naruto go on his own to meet Nagato, and Shikaku has a flashback of the moment he was talking to Shikamaru who was talking to him about Naruto.
 
 
///[[User:Filipinoboy97|Filipinoboy97]]
 
(p.s. btw I'm not logged on that's y it says this page was edited by "a wikia contributor")
 
:Well they somewhat have a close relationship. So I think it should. :D --[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 04:54, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
Ok but I really don't know how to word it into the paragraph.. Haha
 
//[[User:Filipinoboy97|Filipinoboy97]]
 
:Isn't that just pointing out Naruto unique brand of charisma? [[User:Alexdhamp|Alexdhamp]] ([[User talk:Alexdhamp|talk]]) 19:34, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== konoha 11 ==
 
 
i understand that naruto hasnt had much relations with choji ino etc. but dont you think we should add them? i saw the "konoha 11" area and its not really konoha 11 its more of konoha 5. i just think we should include them cause thay are in fact part of kkonoha 11. [[User:Tris0928|Tris0928]] ([[User talk:Tris0928|talk]]) 04:47, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Choji seemed better to be added than Ino, though. ~_- --[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]) 04:55, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Antagonist ==
 
 
can anyone remove itachi from antagonist section and put it back on top...?
 
:no.[[User:Tris0928|Tris0928]] ([[User talk:Tris0928|talk]]) 09:20, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Naruto hardly spoke something with (good) itachi. All major connections were with (bad)Itachi [[User talk:Salil dabholkar|Salil<sub>2212</sub>™]][[File:Uchiha Symbol.svg|20px]] 09:33, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Naruto had, what, like one connection to the "bad" Itachi, and that was when he placed the crow inside of him. He's had a few with the true Itachi, during and after the fight with Nagato. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 13:42, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::"Bad" Itachi also tried to capture him in Part I. Then there's the fight with the 30% clone, too. [[User:Alexdhamp|Alexdhamp]] ([[User talk:Alexdhamp|talk]]) 19:32, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== NOT a Shipping Article ==
 
 
Am I the only one here who sees the mindblowing biasness on this article, specifically on Hinata(which is even longer than Sasuke's) and to a lesser extent Sakura's? Can't people try and not put their pairing preferences into it? I say this because not too long ago, I added more on Sakura's page(due to it being terribly short), talking about how close Naruto and Sakura are, as well as Naruto's love for her which was all stated in canon and yet it got erased. '''Why?''' This isn't supposed to be a shipping article and I'm more than a little annoyed that people keep distorting this page. This page should be deleted if this continues since people can't keep their preferences to themselves. [[User:Romance Girl|Romance Girl]] ([[User talk:Romance Girl|talk]]) 05:15, April 28, 2012 (UTC)Romance Girl
 
 
'''The reason for that is because Hinata's had more moments of showing "Love" then Naruto has. Naruto has shown more "friendship love" for Sakura "than, love love". It doesn't mean Naruto isn't in love with Sakura, it's just Hinata is more romantically in love with Naruto than he is with Sakura.'''
 
--[[Special:Contributions/68.54.229.172|68.54.229.172]] ([[User talk:68.54.229.172|talk]]) 01:29, September 8, 2012 (UTC)Amaterasuice
 
 
== Protection or Removal ? ==
 
 
There is non-stop vandalism to this page and it's starting to disrupt the wiki. Should the page be indefinitely protected to sysop editing only or just get removed ? --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 13:20, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Neutrality of this Article ==
 
 
Speysider and TheUltimate3: Why have this article if you two refuse to keep it neutral? Why consider any attempts to keep it neutral, vandalism? You two insist on making Sakura the only one to have Filler information included, which is CLEAR BIAS. If you believe filler to be canon, then have the decency to apply that to every other character in this article. Otherwise, it comes off as a shipping article does it not?
 
 
Others have attempted to tell TheUltimate3 before that no other character here has filler info included, but he/she has insisted of keeping the article biased, and any attempts at proper neutrality is now considered vandalism.
 
 
So explain to me why such obvious bias is preferred here over neutrality, as was supposed to be a standard? [[Special:Contributions/50.89.109.110|50.89.109.110]] ([[User talk:50.89.109.110|talk]]) 13:24, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:If you disagree with something, you use the talkpage. You don't just remove information because you don't like it. There is no bias here. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 13:25, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::The Bias is quite obvious. To say there is no bias is utterly ridiculous. The bias is the fact that Sakura is the only one to include filler episode summaries while every other character here doesn't. Explain how that is not bias? Especially considering the nature of the information chosen to be considered vandalism if removed? Every time someone has attempted to keep it neutral by specifically removing the filler episode summary and reference, he/she has chosen to put it back, but only for that specific edit. If filler information is indeed canon, and necessary for this article then please edit every character and add relevant filler information. Also, it would be nice if you address my criticism rather than ignore it. I would like to know your reasoning behind having one character to be the only one to have filler info?[[Special:Contributions/50.89.109.110|50.89.109.110]] ([[User talk:50.89.109.110|talk]]) 13:29, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::This wiki chronicles all information, from fillers to canon and OVA's. We don't just leave stuff out because we think "Oh, that info came from a filler so nobody wants that". Everything is referenced so issues like this don't come up. It clearly has a reference tag that states the information comes from an anime only episode. I don't see what problem there is with the information, it's just that Sakura was the only character the anime directors decided to give filler info on. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 13:34, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::There are plenty of filler episodes that have included Naruto with Neji, Rock Lee, Hinata, Konohamaru and others, so I find it odd that such a thing is only done for Sakura. The reference isn't the issue. It's the fact that I haven't seen any information outside of the manga added to any of the other characters other than Sakura. If you honestly believe Sakura to be the only one to have noteworthy information from a filler/ova/movie then I can't argue with that belief, but I believe it to be debatable. Shouldn't it be considered, especially considering the continuous editing on that specific line by TheUltimate3 and others?--[[Special:Contributions/50.89.109.110|50.89.109.110]] ([[User talk:50.89.109.110|talk]]) 13:38, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
You see Ulti ( '-') this is why I said it. Relationship stuff are too intricate and always breeds stuff like this, that's why it should be suppressed and forgotten e_e lol. Any way, I can't have much of a say here because I haven't been monitoring this page. From that limited point of view I suppose filler stuff can be added to their sections granted that it doesn't conflict with manga information and is cited outright as anime info. Also, is it a case where filler information that could go on this article is available? or are you just arguing that Sakura is only only one with filler information? If so could you cite the information that could be added to whatever article here so it can be seen. One more thing, information from OVAs, movies and stuff like that, count as nothing as the information there isn't reflected in articles at all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:01, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm confused. Admittedly, I haven't checked this article in like 2 weeks, but from what I can remember, the only filler information in Sakura's section is the bit near the end where it is mentioned how, in the anime (stated explicity) tbat Naruto made it even more clear that he was in love with Sakura. For the other characters you mentioned, what fillers actually showed something noteworthy relationship-wise that wasn't said in the manga? We chronicle the information as presented to us, and maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling the the IP user that created this section has more a problem with the whole he loves Sakura bit than the fact that there is teensy bit of filler. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 14:47, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I see Cerez. I will admit, you were right. I will however not admit defeat. /WavesSword
 
:Now to the accusations!
 
::@50.89.109.110: I don't watch the anime. What I know of the anime is what people tell me. Some time ago, someone added that bit to the Sakura article, and it was removed because someone said "anime no count" and thus began a minor spat between Hinata and Sakura fans. I stepped in and said "I never made a criteria for this article." and restored the anime only info, making sure to label it as such.
 
::That explains why Sakura has anime only info. Now any character can have anime only info as long as it's labeled. More the merrier.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:26, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Skitts, I raise you that accusation and counter with episode 240 of Naruto: Shippuuden titled Kiba's Determination in which Kiba stated that he wanted to become a fool (like Naruto) there is other information. I was concerned about the neutrality, as the 240 example I stated, which was a later episode than 235, shouldn't have been too hard to remember, I found it odd, considering how "controversial" and heated these specific romance debates can be that it felt that despite the other information TheUltimate3 could have added as "anime only" info, he/she specifically chose to add the controversial parts. That is what I took issue with. Had he/she chose the Kiba filler info instead for example, I doubt he/she would have been so adamant to defend it and call it vandalism when removed. I say this specifically because the whole romance thing tends to be adamantly defended and I felt that his/her constant reediting of that specific thing despite Cerez's and others arguments, was unneeded if he/she wasn't biased towards it.[[Special:Contributions/50.89.109.110|50.89.109.110]] ([[User talk:50.89.109.110|talk]]) 15:58, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Since you've been given the go-ahead, you and others can now add anime content given that it's properly cited with "in the anime" and references. Also, just for the record, TheUltimate3 is a dude. It'll save you some writing time lol.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:03, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Well then there you go, although I still recommended avoiding things not cited in the manga to avoid unnecessary debates. :D. And I'll remember that. Should the Kiba thing be added, or should I go about doing it? XD [[Special:Contributions/50.89.109.110|50.89.109.110]] ([[User talk:50.89.109.110|talk]]) 16:08, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
In response to your counter, I question why, when you saw that there was filler (which really was essentially said in the manga as well) you thought that it was bias. Anime instances are present in other articles as well and really, the only problem with adding them is when they contradict the manga/data book(s). As earlier discussions pointed out, this page is relatively new and still under construction and can be improved in various ways. The reason why removing that bit is considered vandalism is because it was stated in the anime (somehwat in the manga). Feel free to add relevant anime-filler instances that are noteworthy. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 16:59, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== yamato ==
 
 
what about yamato?, as he who has looked after naruto for the duration of his training up until taming kurama, couldn't we add a section for yamato? --[[User:Caseather|Caseather]] ([[User talk:Caseather|talk]]) 03:49, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
i'm kinda not sure and i probadly doubt that. =.=
 
 
[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 03:54, May 14, 2012 (UTC)kunoichi101[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 03:54, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I don't think Yamato is noteworthy and Guy as well. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My Wiki]]) 04:33, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Ino?? ==
 
Why isn't his relationship with Ino in this?
 
 
-[[Chix777|User:Chix777]]
 
 
:They don't really interact so there isn't anything worth mentioning. [[User:TricksterKing|TricksterKing]] ([[User talk:TricksterKing|talk]]) 03:40, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Major Complaint ==
 
--[[User:BrennanMulcahey|BrennanMulcahey]] ([[User talk:BrennanMulcahey|talk]]) 12:11, September 26, 2012 (UTC)([[User talk:BrennanMulcahey|user]]) Hi, I like to speak about the outright lies, missing information, and the overly bias nature of this page. While every one is entitled to their opinions, this site is not the forum for them. Narutopedia is an encyclopedia of all the events and knowlegde of the manga and anime of the Naruto series by Masashi Kishimoto! This means there should be only be truthful facts not opinions or false information posted here! There are plenty of websites for fans to debate their views, but not this one. Publishing deliberatly false information to convince other fans with opposing view points to stop reading or watching Naruto, is hurting Kishimoto, Shonen Jump, and Viz Media financialy with the decline in it's fan base. It also undermines confidence in the verification of the other postings on this site when people come across these fake posts.
 
 
Attacking other fans because you disagree with what they want for certain romantic pairings like NarutoXsakura, SasukeXsakura, or NarutoXhinata is unacceptable. Again I state this site is not for personal opinions. If you are Omiting, Deleting, or just plain lying about events in the Naruto series to support your personal prefernce you will be expelled from this Wiki and your postings will be corrected or deleted. Please understand that unlike an American comic book company like DC or Marvel you can not influence or retcon events in a Japanese Manga. When a japanese writer publishes something it can not be influence like the death of Gwen Stacy mail in campaign or retconed the death of Jason Todd, so please stop trying to force a specafic outcome in the Naruto series. It will not work because japanese writers all ready have the ending planned before they start a manga. The only personal opinion that matters about what pairings will happen is Masashi Kishimoto's!
 
 
There has been no resolution to any of the teenaged characters crushes or infatuations in the series or any public announcements by Kishimoto or Viz Media to this effect either. Despite like a hunderd hints both ways and three botched love confessions later, we are basicly in the same position as chapter three from thirteen years ago. Blame Kishmoto for waiting to last few chapters to resolve this and the lack of character development that resulted from this decision. Kishimoto current timetable for the series finale of Naruto was sixteen months from July of 2012. Shonen Jump and Kishimoto still maintain a wall of silence on what couples will result in the series. Hinata loves Naruto, Naruto still loves Sakura, Sakura loves Sasuke, and Sasuke loves who knows(himself?). Nor have there been any change with any minor character like Tenten, Neiji, Ino, Rock Lee, Shikimaru, Temari, or even Karin. I am sorry but these are the current facts. While it is most likely to change in a year or so, please refrain from publishing posts stating outcomes because simply because you want it to happen!
 
 
I am sorry but I finialy come to the point were I comment directly on KazeKitsune's Naruto Uzumaki's Relationships page. While I generaly think this page is a good idea and most of what is in it is true. KazeKitsune has used this as a forum to promote her obession with the HinataXNaruto pairing with the ommision of certain facts, Bias statements, and Outright Lies mostly in the Sakura Haruno section! The first lie is Naruto is no longer in love with Sakura. Sorry NarutoXhinata fans, but both the most recent Naruto movie(the ninth,Road to Ninja) and Naruto Shippuden epsisode 235 has Naruto still in love with Sakura despite both botched love confessions. The second lie has Naruto Shippuden episode 235 stating that Naruto has given up on Sakura and only wants her to be happy(with Sasuke). What episode 235 actually says is "I have a girl I love named Sakura. Well actually, it's one-side on my part. Sakura is totally in love with a guy named Sasuke. She tries so hard, chasing after him and trying to win his love. When she's at it, her smile is the cutest thing. There's no explaining it. Before I realized it, I was in love with her. I would never try to force her to love me. I'd be no different from that guy just now if I did. So I made up my mind. In the same way that Sakura tries to win Sasuke over, I'm going to do my best to win Sakura over." Feel free to go to the Official Naruto Shippuden website and watch episode 235 on Hulu for free, if anyone doubts the truth of what I am saying.
 
 
The Sakura section has too many personal opinions like Sakura will never love Naruto and has a serious shortage of facts compared to the Hinata section which also overly bias but I can not dispute any of it's facts. Please understand this has nothing to do with any actual pairings but Sakura Haruno is the second most used character in the Naruto universe. Sakura has four times the page and screen time as Hinata as well as appearing in all nine movies and O.V.A.s oppose to Hinata's three each. Look the character Bulma appears more often than Goku's wife Chi-Chi in the Dragonball series which inspired Kishimoto to create Naruto in first place. Maybe Sakura Haruno is only Naruto's "Winnie Cooper", maybe not. But these two character's relationship is a huge and integral part of the Naruto series . Masashi Kismoto has repeatly defended this in his interviews and it should be respected. The Naruto's parents section needs work as well. It skips over the controversly last words of Kushina, "try to find someone like your mother.
 
 
Kazekitsune needs to either correct this page or it has to be deleted. If anyone would like to see a more accurate version either go the history icon in the top left corner and click it then click on the previous history with BrennanMulcahey to read a better version or put in a request for this page's deletetion. I have try repeatly to get Kazekitsune fix this met with little sucess and rude emails.--[[User:BrennanMulcahey|BrennanMulcahey]] ([[User talk:BrennanMulcahey|talk]]) 12:11, September 26, 2012 (UTC)BrennanMulcahey September 26, 8:11am 2012
 
 
:You're first mistake was saying this waws KazeKitsune's page. It is actually ''mine''. (How exactly can one person "own" a page? Well, I can't. But it was my personal project and I am quite fond of it.) Now the other thing, this page is not ment to be a shipping article, that was one of the major things I was and still am against. If you see it being used as such, you have the ability to change it. Making a seven paragraph comment in the Talk Page really just makes people's eyes glaze over and willing ignore whatever it is you are trying to say.
 
:Also, don't use a person's actual name. TheUltimate3 does not like that. Not wise to do things TheUltimate3 does not like.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:22, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::@Ultimite3, my remarks were directed at Kazekitsune based on her constantly deleting my corrections and her rather unpleasent emails. So you might want to ask her why seems to think this page is her personal property. I write long because I think in Paragraphs. I also read everything before I respond. I use my real name because I stand behind what I post and I belive that anonymous encourage fake or rude postings. Since you didn't respond to any of my actual statements, so I will ask again. Please reread my first post for reference. Anime filler NS episode 235 says the exact oppisite of what is publish in the relationship page. That there nothing officialy from Kishimoto, Shonen Jump, or Viz Media stating that Naruto is no longer in love with Sakura Haruno. While I think this page is good idea in theory but these Lies are going to get this page, you are so fond of will be deleted. There is also the matter of the rest of the bias and lack of infomation in the Sakura section. --[[Special:Contributions/98.179.191.24|98.179.191.24]] ([[User talk:98.179.191.24|talk]]) 15:40, September 26, 2012 (UTC)([[User talk:BrennanMulcahey|talk]])
 
 
Though not particularly fond of this article, sorry Ults, told you so and all ( '-'), I don't think it needs outright deletion. It seems to me that Sakura's section just needs an overhaul and then after that close monitoring.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:14, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
While I agree with Brennan in some aspects of the article, I also don't approve of the way your doing it. You also need to realize that when an event in the manga contradicts what occurred in the anime we go with the manga version instead. That's why parts of your posts is taken out. While I agree that some of your edits should stay, you need to understand how things are done here. In the anime, which include the movies, it says that Naruto loves Sakura and will continue to try and win her love, in the manga it's completely different, saying that even if Sakura doesn't love him the way he wants he's happy so long as she's happy, you also need to realize that this is way back, over a hundred chapters or so, and that Naruto may have moved on. That's why it's deleted. There's also the fact that when we add anime filler moments to other characters it's also deleted, it's not just Sakura. Apparently there are people who don't approve or want filler moments added. Also don't go saying stuff like the Road to Naruto proves that he loves her. Like I said, things that occur in the manga and anime, films, that contradict one another don't count. The manga is the official cannon timeline, not the movies or filler episodes. Though Kishimoto has stated that some, emphasis on some, filler episodes inspire him to add to the manga, examples being the other swords of the Seven Swordsmen and some characters from the movies he wasn't involved in, ultimately they are still filler and Kishimoto stated that Naruto Road to Ninja was merely a fun project he wanted to be a part of.
 
 
Ps: The comment that Kushina made about trying to find someone who isn't weird and instead find someone who's like your mother was an obvious joke. Facts and comments on Kushina being a very odd, "weird" individual in the manga before and after her appearance support it and the way it was shown and context prove that it was an attempt at humour.
 
 
--[[User:Michma12|Michma12]] ([[User talk:Michma12|talk]]) 17:35, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Personally, they can suck it if they don't want filler info in the article, e'ery that happens everything we're given goes into this article :P. Nice and fair. If it happened and can be cited, in the article it goes.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:58, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:: Don't look at me. It's the higher ups who do it. Saying that it's unimportant, and in some cases it is, in others it's not.
 
 
:::::The above said, and I admit I have been slacking what with working during the summer and school work now, is that opinions on what may or may not have happened should have never been or will be added to section. It was one of the guidelines that let the article stay when I first made it in the attempt to shorten Naruto's massive Personality section.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:05, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
How about Fukasaku for a mentor for naruto? [[User:Justin Holland|Justin Holland]] ([[User talk:Justin Holland|talk]]) 20:04, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Obito never gave into lust for power and recognition. Someone should change that. {{unsigned|68.6.176.66}}
 
 
== Updating Picture w/ Anime ==
 
 
[[Media:Two Suns.png]] Can we change the picture in the Parent section to this? --[[User:Questionaredude|Questionaredude]] ([[User talk:Questionaredude|talk]]) 15:56, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Go ahead.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:01, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::The page has been protected form editing, it's better to add the anime image for the parents and re-protect the page again. —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 20:01, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Sasuke==
 
Why is Sasuke's relationship so small. Hinata has so much less screen time and yet her is much larger. The same for Sakura. You guys are breezing through his most important relationships. I can not fix it, but can someone. [[User:NarutoRevival|NarutoRevival]] ([[User talk:NarutoRevival|talk]]) 03:02, October 20, 2012 (UTC)NarutoRevival
 
 
The reason why is because Sasuke has spent the majority of his time with Naruto in Part I rather than Part II so little on their relationship is added. As for Sakura and Hinata that will be revised later on. However, Hinata is because while her lack of screen time, several of those moments, unlike Sakura, portrays about their relationship. That isn't to say that Sakura's relationship isn't important either, just that certain moments are repetition and whatnot, and are later seen as irrelevant when new occurrences occur that contradict those moments. Same with Hinata. --[[User:Michma12|Michma12]] ([[User talk:Michma12|talk]]) 20:41, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 

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Continuation of "biasedness" Edit

it showed everyone's panel before hers, hers was only placed last, look at chapter 677 pages 10 - 14, hers is only placed last, then they show Naruto with "!!" trying to rush out. He never mentions it was Hinata and Naruto IS NOT TELEPATHIC, he sensed everyone in danger, that is why they showed everyone before her, and then hers last. It's common SENSE, and you all seem to forget that all Hinata says is "Naruto-kun" of course she'd say it here, and for your information, Naruto sensed it with his senjutsu (it was activated) so please. You’re giving Hinata way too much credit when Naruto’s bond with her isn’t even that deep in comparison to people like Shikamaru, Gaara, and Tsunade who also got caught in the genjutsu. Why are their relationship stuff even shorter than hers? smt and you're forgetting that the same time she was being tied up, everyone else was also.
Im not being biased, im just trying to post more important things between him and Sakura's, give me ONE relationship where it is as progressed as theirs that's gone from part 1 to part 2 with so much changes? that's why I put that there, and it's stated in chapter 43, page 14...tell me who supports his dream before this chapter? and Im not talking about Hinata's made-up filler past in the pein arc, Hinata first appears in the chunin exams along with the other rookies, so technically, Sakura really is the first to support his dreams, that's important, and the first to verbally encourage him and believe in him, when everyone doubted him at the chunin exams against Kiba, even Hinata did, and out of the rookie 9, she is the first to know about the 9 tails, proof in chapter 261, and she even wants to remove it from him.
I re-did the whole Sakura saving his life cause you left out a few things...you said she was forced to, which she wasn't..you put something about not letting her friend die, when in the manga, she says she wont let him die and that his dream is right in front of them..there's also the part after all that where she doesn't trust Obito with Naruto...that's important too..then there's a part way back where Sakura finds out about jinchurikis and what happens to them after extracted and she goes on to ask how to remove a biju, which shows she wanted to remove it from him..and then the part where she selflessly runs to Naruto to try and bring him back to his senses by wanting to get Sasuke back herself if it meant he wouldn't become the monster he was becoming, and then he hits her, and the impact that has on him after being told that he did that unconsciously..
You guys even skipped out on why Naruto tried so hard in part 1 to save Sakura from gaara -facepalm-
Those are all important information..
I even put things like them two having an understanding of each other because no one knows the other better than they know each other, that's how progressed their relationship is and I added the whole Obito thing to show how driven Sakura is to help Naruto, and the thing with Naruto cheering her up after what Sasuke had said, cause it showed that Naruto agreeing with Sasuke affected her more and it was a scene where she thanked him
Yamato's words were "It's not what you do for Naruto that's important...it's how strongly you feel about him that counts...Sakura...I can tell just by looking at you....the truth is, you - " its obvious she cares about him, but why have him cut off if thats all he was going to say?
anyways, this really isn't supposed to be a shipping site, so who knows what he meant, im just trying to say be fair. and also, why is it on Sasuke's section, you guys put only Sasuke was the one to save Sakura from the ten tail clone? Naruto did too you know
And why did you guys add a filler moment with Ino almost falling for him there? does filler really count in his relationships? unless it's on another character's page?
anyways, like I said before, Im not trying to be biased, this was brought to my attention, that some NH/SS fans were putting biased things on this website and i went to check it out and noticed that you were. At the end of the day, it's called "Naruto" and this is an information site about everything Naruto related, not pairing wars. --Momochanx3 (talk) 18:48, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
For someone who's 'unbiased', you sure do have a preference towards Naruto and Sakura's relationship. In fact, I checked your edits, and almost all support that trend. A piece of advice for you: if you wanna preach about who's biased and who's not, at least try not to be blatantly so yourself... oh, and this is a talk page, not a rant page. --Atrix471 (talk) 00:40, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Atrix, though I agree Momochan is a bit biased, I don't think he was ranting. He was countering my argument, or possibly the wiki's.
Momochan, if all those are true (and thank you for providing sources) then I agree with you that they should be added to Sakura's part of the page.
But, I still disagree with you on some points: Iruka/jiraiya and Hinata (I am very, very sure Kishimoto intended for her to be one of the first of Naruto's followers, ALONG WITH Sakura) I think were the first to support his dream, and Sakura grew to follow it as well.
I continue to disagree with you about the "telepathy" thing you addressed early in your argument. Though you may be correct, there is no proof that he was reacting to the entire alliance instead of only Hinata.
Finally, I said early in this argument that you tend to be a bit biased. I'm sorry if I'm being rude, but that's the reality.
I suggest we get an administrator/sysop/whatever of the wiki to include the facts that are verified as non-speculation/bias to the Sakura part of the page.
If they are true, then they will be added (hopefully. I don't want to give any guarantees.).
I'll support you if you try to be unbiased and if you stop with the "telepathy" and who-was-the-first-follower-of-Naruto stuff, and if you agree not to delete anything from Hinata's part of the page.
I would very much appreciate if we came to a mutual agreement.
Yours Truly, --Plane in the Desert (talk) 01:10, August 26, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert
Oh right. This was a thing. Fantastic.
To start, 4k bytes was never going to stay on this page. Partially because that's a friggin lot. Partially because a lot of what's there practically meaningless. There is absolutely no reason to add super detailed of every interaction between the two of them, because for one, it will make things quite friggin big. On the other, a lot of those can very easily be summed up with a sentence. "Over the course of Part II the two had grown very close." or something like that gets the point across just as much as going into such a minor detail as her healing his arm and feeding him.
If anything the fact that in your 4k edit you removed a picture of Hinata (then proceeded to make Sakura dominate the page) will obviously make people question your stance of nonbiasedness. But I look at it differently and notice that while you made Sakura's relationship dominate the page, the the one relationship he had that truly dominated the series was left untouched; Sasuke Uchiha.
That said, the telepathy thing I was certain wasn't supposed to be added to the article and will be removed.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 09:53, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I admit, I'm a NaruSaku fan -shrug-, and people were telling me that after a certain episode came out, the wiki got biased so I went to see, and of course I would check Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke and Hinata's and boy oh boy
You're saying the whole Hinata thing was Naruto hearing her? let me ask you a question...when pein attacked the village right?..and Sakura called out for Naruto to come back to the village...did he hear her too? or did he sense it all happening with his senjutsu and appeared? I didn't know he was telepathic :o -facepalm- Naruto's not a yamanaka or has some spiritual connection to Hinata. He didn't even know what was happening the next chapter, and he never said he heard someone in danger or anything. When he is told what was going on he says "then everyone is" not "then Hinata is" why? cause he sensed it, he sensed people in danger.
I didn't even know what to add in Sasuke's part, but on his page, I made it similar to what you put for Naruto trying to save Sakura from the ten tailed clone, because he wasn't the only one, and you guys know that.
And really? Sakura follows? when IN THE MANGA (and not the anime) she actually is the first of the rookie 9 to support his dream of becoming Hokage. like I said, lol, Hinata appears in the chunin exams, we dont see her before that time, so please.
Im not even not gonna stop cause its the truth and common sense. the rest of the rookie 9 follows, the only not to yet is Sasuke..
I'm not even being biased, im being fair, why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru? Tsunade? Gaara? because she "loves" him? She has every single moment of those two up, yet you're not biased right? aha
So putting things like how progressed their relationship is is biased too? but it is the most progressed...does that bother you guys? it's the truth. Momochanx3 (talk) 14:05, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
"why does Hinata have more things than actual important side characters like Shikamaru?" Wow, the fact that you think you're not biased is... just incredible. --Atrix471 (talk) 14:22, August 29, 2014 (UTC)
This discussion stops now. It is leading us nowhere and, quite frankly, none of this helps to improve the wiki at all. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 14:19, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

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