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== His use of the Flying Thunder God Technique ==
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==Image of him stopping Kakashi from killing Obito==
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Can somebody please put that image into his "Return of Madara Arc" section? I'm not good with manga images...[[User:Idontcareaboutmyname|Idontcareaboutmyname]] ([[User talk:Idontcareaboutmyname|talk]]) 17:27, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
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:Bump.[[User:Idontcareaboutmyname|Idontcareaboutmyname]] ([[User talk:Idontcareaboutmyname|talk]]) 15:40, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
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::Nobody?[[User:Idontcareaboutmyname|Idontcareaboutmyname]] ([[User talk:Idontcareaboutmyname|talk]]) 10:41, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
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If you where to give me the page and chapter I would be glad to help out and get the picture.[[User:Na'Jorne|First Bodygurad and Protege]] ([[User talk:Na'Jorne|talk]]) 02:14, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to post this here instead of just changing it to make sure everyone agrees so it will not just get changed back, but on the page is says, "Even without using his Flying Thunder God Technique, Minato could out run an explosion, only receiving a shallow shrapnel wound." But when he is looking at the piece of shrapnel from his leg he clearly states that he forced him to use the flying thunder god tech. And it makes a point of showing the kunai on the ground he used. I can't remember if this is the first time I've posted this, I've had posts on talk pages disappear in the past, but regardless this seems like it needs to be changed. [[Special:Contributions/173.26.55.148|173.26.55.148]] ([[User talk:173.26.55.148|talk]]) 03:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)Miah
 
   
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== His age has been narrowed down. ==
:There's a smoke trail leading from the house to where Minato is. That shouldn't be there if he's using FGT. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 06:46, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Minato's age can now be guessed at better, jiraiya trained minato starting from him being ten, that was right after jiraya left the ame orphans, and we know now that yahiko was 20yrs at death, so that means that Minato was either 17 or 20 when he became Hokage, meaning he was either 18 or 21 when he died. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 07:13, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
He literally says, "he forced me to use flying thunder god tech," but the entire time inside he definitely never used it. The cloud just seems like a non-issue, I mean outside of having him state, I am going to use ftg now, before the tech, you can't really get more clear. I don't see how you could intrepret what he said any differenty, since it would have been the first time he used it to that point. The cloud isn't even really connected to the main cloud from the explosion, it forms a seperate little circle where he started and trails off to where he landed. Regardless, arguing over the cloud seems to completely ignore the fact he literally said he just used FTG tech. [[Special:Contributions/173.26.55.148|173.26.55.148]] ([[User talk:173.26.55.148|talk]]) 07:22, December 15, 2010 (UTC) miah
 
:They were inside of a cave, he used FTG to teleport to the house.--[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 07:25, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Ok so I did the math and what not, Nagato was born in september, minato in january i believe, so it was 4 month after leaving amegakure that Jiraiya became Minato's sensei, Minato was 3 years younger than the Ame Orhpans and Yahiko died at age 20 in the same year Minato became a Kage, meaning Minato became a Hokage around december 10th when he was 17, january 25th he was 18 and about 9 months later he died at 18, on October 10th. That makes him the youngest Hokage ever. Gaara still has the title of youngest Kage ever I believe. But that means he was Team Minato's sensei at the age of 13, and I believe it as Itachi was 170cm tall, very mature and already a Anbu Captain at the age of 13. So Minato was already a Jonin at 13 almost 14, which means he became a Chunin and then Jonin within him being 10-13yrs old. Jiraiya already stated he was so much of a prodigy and Ei stated nobody could beat him pretty much So I believe it 100% [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 08:02, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
yes however it shows a marked kunai on the ground where he landed comming from the house after he lands. It makes a point of showing it, that he used the ftg to escape the explosion, regardless of wthr he first went to the house then outside or just to that one kunai. It still wasn't just his own speed w/o the ftg like the minato page says.
 
[[Special:Contributions/173.26.55.148|173.26.55.148]] ([[User talk:173.26.55.148|talk]]) 07:47, December 15, 2010 (UTC) miah
 
   
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At this point, if it's not something as simple as B and Motoi's age, I no longer bother with doing the math. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:35, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
The exploding tags ignited when he was still in the cave, Minato used FTG and reached his house, still with Naruto. At the house, the exploding tags actually exploded. He escaped the explosion with his own speed, the marked kunai showing he used FTG to get from cave to house. Minato doesn't necessarily appear on the top of the kunai, he appears in its vicinity. After he retrieves Kushina, and puts her in the other location, you see the marked kunai hanging there, but he doesn't appear on top of it. Also, the kunai show when he escapes the house could very well be a kunai that was in the house, which was simply thrown out of the house because of the explosion. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:47, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Ok so seelentau retranslated Yahiko's age from pierrot, it says seinen which means 18-30 so the age should be put back to 25-30. That means Minato became a kage at 22 not 17 and died at 24...
That seems like a lot of speculation though for such a concrete comment. Especially since he tumbles to the ground from the house. He may have jumped out or he may hae just appeared in the air and been blown to the side, but in tow pannels it doesn't show enough to make such a concrete statement like he out ran the explosion. Nor is there enough to say the whole cloth with the tags came through with him or just part of the explosion. I could say he scooped up the baby from the towl and used ftg as the explosion went off, a portion of the explosing following him but avoiding it mostly, where he then tumbled to the ground. And there's nothing in the panels to say that's wrong or completely right. It's simply a matter of opinion that he out ran the explosion with his own speed. It shouldn't be listed there as an example as though it was unrefutable fact. [[Special:Contributions/173.26.55.148|173.26.55.148]] ([[User talk:173.26.55.148|talk]]) 21:21, December 15, 2010 (UTC) maih
 
   
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== Sensor for 1000th time ==
It's the least speculative assumption of what happened based on what Kishimoto drew. We see Minato holding Naruto when the tags ignite, and next we see him holding Naruto outside his house, with the shrapnel in his ankle. A marked kunai by his side. Obviously, there was a kunai in his house, so he teleported there. We don't see the explosion happening at the cave, so the least speculative thing is to assume is that it happened at the house. If it had happened at the cave, at the very least I think they'd show the explosion just to show Kushina being distressed by the situation. What I said about Minato appearing near kunai and not on top of them isn't speculative, there are manga panels showing it. About the ran/thrown part, I think that if he was thrown, he'd have more on him than just the ankle shrapnel, and he certainly wouldn't look as unscathed. About the cloth coming with him, I think it did go, partly because of the not showing the explosion in the cave, and because there has never been any indication that Minato can partially transport something using FTG, like, if he holds a rock and teleports, the whole rock will go with him, not just a part of it. Like I said, it's the least speculative. If anything, we can change the wording of the phrase, giving the effect that it's an educated guess or assumption. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:49, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Are we sure to be sure this time for sure? Wasn't that because of QB or something? I guess he may be a sensor then, but not a good one, nowhere near Karin or Tobirama's level--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:52, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
:I changed the line since it's dependent on interpretation. However, I offer [http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2664/explosionkq.jpg this] tankobon scan in regards to when/where Minato teleported. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 22:08, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:His "I can tell the enemy's presence by laying a finger on the ground" would have been enough for me to list him a long time ago. I mean, the exact same thing is mentioned on Tobirama's page as well. And yes, Minato realised that Naruto's Kurama-half was extracted before his own half confirmed it. I vote for listing him as a sensor. [[User:Idontcareaboutmyname|Idontcareaboutmyname]] ([[User talk:Idontcareaboutmyname|talk]]) 12:05, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
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::Hm, I thought him having sensory abilities was confirmed a while ago. He just seems to only use them consciously, not sensing all the time like those who are "primarily" sensors, meaning he probably learned the skill instead of having it from birth. --[[User:Kiadony|kiadony]] --[[User talk:Kiadony|talk to me]]-- 12:12, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Tobirama was shown not to sense all the time either, he has to "use" sensing to sense.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:23, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
   
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That too. He mentioned that he has to "knead chakra" to sense. I don't think Kishimoto ever made it completely clear about all that passive/active sensing skills but we did assume that some are naturally sensitive and some are trained. Tobirama might be a very skilled sensor but not a natural one, while Karin and Yamanaka people have that affinity/ability from birth. I'm pretty sure that they ("natural" sensors) can't sense if they somehow suppress or disrupt their chakra flow (like Karin did during the Summit) but do they need to use a specific technique, "turn on" their ability every time? It's still unclear if I understand correctly. --[[User:Kiadony|kiadony]] --[[User talk:Kiadony|talk to me]]-- 13:00, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
That's actually the same panel I was looking at, and I thought that was him as well. However he's upside down from the looks of it, and gets blown away more than running away, that's why he ends up falling on his butt and sort of skidding a distance. Even if he did teleport then jump out the window or something, I still wouldn't say he outran an explosion. I mean if I jumped out a window to avoid an explosion I wouldn't say I outran it, and from his posture I'd say it seems more likely. It's semantics I admit, but semantics are important. It just didn't seem like it was so clear cut as to the specifics of what he did when he teleprorted, though I guess when the anime catches up it will probably be a bit more revealing. But there are other more clear examples of his speed as well, like moving kakashi away from the person before he was killed in the kakashi gaiden mini. moving that distance and pulling him out of the way, still having the time and mindset to mark him with the ftg symbol, that's pretty impressive in itself. [[Special:Contributions/173.26.55.148|173.26.55.148]] ([[User talk:173.26.55.148|talk]]) 01:38, December 16, 2010 (UTC) miah
 
   
== Jinchuriki? ==
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== sage mode ==
   
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in the latest chapter 655 Minato had the same eyes as Naruto in sage mode. --[[User:Tchad1|Tchad1]] ([[User talk:Tchad1|talk]]) 08:29, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
Minato sealed the Kyubi's Yin half within himself using Shiki Fujin. Is it possible he was a Jinchuriki, even though it was for just a few minutes?--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 
:Your question and the answer to it are five sections above. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:58, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
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:We know, it is already in the article. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 08:45, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
::ah, okay, my mistake, sorry.
 
   
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No, we've jumped to conclusions way too quickly. He said Senjutsu, not Sage Mode, he's most probably utilising it in the same way as Orochimaru. [[User:Pesa123456789|Pesa123456789]] ([[User talk:Pesa123456789|talk]]) 14:54, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
== WRONG ==
 
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:Senjutsu = Sage Mode. He even has toad eyes and pigmentation--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:02, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
   
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And as soon as he used Rasengan, it was gone. He augmented his ninjutsu with senjutsu, with the markings being a sign of mixing natural energy and normal chakra. [[User:Pesa123456789|Pesa123456789]] ([[User talk:Pesa123456789|talk]]) 15:50, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
Some of the things you said about Namikaze were wrong. Naruto's real name is not Uzumaki. The Uzumaki clan died out years before even Kushina was born. Naruto got the name naruto uzumaki to protect him from the rumors of the nine tailed fox. He was given the name by the village elders including jiraiya.
 
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:As Fukasaku stated, those markings are the proof that the user has become a true Sage. Therefore, Minato did enter Sage Mode.--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 16:47, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
*His "real" name '''is''' Uzumaki
 
*Kushina was brought to Konohagakure after her village's destruction i.e. she was there when it happened
 
*The Sandaime Hokage gave Naruto his mother's last name to protect him from people trying to kill him because he was Minato's son.
 
*sign your posts. --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 18:07, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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== Fastest in history ==
The latter point still confuses me slightly... I mean, why would they kill him because he was Minato's son? I know the villagers disliked him because he was the host of the nine-tails fox but that doesn't really have anything to do with Minato, so using the Uzumaki name wouldn't stop the villager's hatred. Is it because they didn't want the outside ninja world to know he was the fourth's son in case some ninja's try to assassinate him? Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Gojinn|Gojinn]] ([[User talk:Gojinn|talk]]) 13:00, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The villagers would've trated Naruto a whole lot better if they knew the full story behind what happened and that he was Minato's son. The Third Hokage was worried that other ninja outside the village would constantly be making attempts on his life just because he was Minato's son. Remember that some people had "flee on sight" orders of they ever came in contact with Minato. Giving Naruto the name "Uzumaki" wasn't to protect him from the villagers it was from the enemies Minato had amassed in his lifetime. [[User:Cerez365|Cerez]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 13:12, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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Two things bother me about this: 1. When was he actually said to be the fastest, dont get me wrong I know he's fast but as far as I know it was never said he was the fastest just faster than A and by extension the Third Raikage.
== Minato's Jutsu ==
 
   
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2. Maybe this is the wrong place to talk about it but still: Wouldn't the fact that he was acknowledged as the fastest if not, one of the fastest add to the need for "the fastest shinobi" as a title. Tobirama, Third Raikage, Minato, and A have all been said to be the fastest. Now obviously we may never know who is the fastest among them but it is a possibility that the title is a generational thing like the "God of Shinobi" title seems to be. --[[User:Youngjusticeplayer007|Youngjusticeplayer007]] ([[User talk:Youngjusticeplayer007|talk]]) 23:09, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
In the movie (the lost tower) Minato uses his Shadow suriken jutsu without any handsigns?
 
And why his chakra is his chakra green in some cases?--[[User:Madman361|Madman361]] ([[User talk:Madman361|talk]]) 17:04, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
:I remember seeing a video of him using the technique, but he could simply be offscreen when doing the seals. You ask questions that we have no means to answer until the movie is out and subbed. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:24, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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== correct me if I'm wrong ==
You also have to remember, ninja don't actually have to use hand signs to perform jutsu.
 
[[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 02:50, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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But he was blasted to nothingness with Madara's orbs, wasn't he?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:04, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
== FTG Question ==
 
   
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:Possible. He could also just have several ball shaped holes in his back, considering his head survived I wouldn't say he's dead (dead-er) yet. And that implies the Balls were set to "Ninjutsu Off" mode when he threw them at Guy.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:09, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
Since FTG is supposed to be instantaneous, shouldn't things like "...near untraceable speed at which Minato moved when using this technique" be changed since its being teleportation would in fact make it untraceable?
 
[[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 02:39, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
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::Dunno, chapter 669 makes it look like he is a goner, he crumbled away--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:37, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
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:::The article reads as if he ported himself out. The lines that typically indicate super fast moment was used. But who knows. I doubt he's a goner, if for no reason other than story element, because we just had a heartfelt moment for Guy, then they just kill(er) Minato and nobody bats an eyelash.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:42, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
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::::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHMcoG_FmTw I'm sure he is dead-dead, only his bottom half can be seen on the next panel and it's crumbling too. Same case as Killer B, people refuse to acknowledge that someone has died unless Kishi sits on their laps and screams so into their ears.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:58, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::I can't see anything crumbling to be honest. Are you talking about him vanishing after being hit by the Truth-Seeking Balls? [[User:Noweeaboohoo|Noweeaboohoo]] ([[User talk:Noweeaboohoo|talk]]) 15:12, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
   
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When only his bottom part can be seen left, his feet is also crumbling--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:26, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
==So...==
 
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:...That wasn't Minato's lower half. That was Guy's >_> Unless, of course, I'm looking in the wrong place. But in 669, after Minato "vanishes", he isn't seen again that chapter. That shot where you just see someone's lower half... is Guy divebombing Madara. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 16:14, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Why was he drawn with no feet then? :P--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:51, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
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::::: Elve, look at it. Its Guy. You can see him divebombing Madara. He's wearing a flack jacket and no Hokage cape. Minato isn't seen again in that chapter. At all. He jumps immediately after being struck. Not to mention, Minato's feet didn't get hit by the TSB, his upper back did. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
   
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I guess you are right. Minato may be anywhere or nowhere at the moment :P Although unless he was in Sage Mode while hit, he shouldn't have "survived" the orbs, so I don't hope for better.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
Anyone notice that on chapter 503, just before Minato was about to use the Contract Seal on MAdara, he chopped off his hand? Take a really good look. We might want to add that to the article.--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 
:Madara's hand was falling off from the ransengan impact...they tend to do that...a lot....--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez☺]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 12:21, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
== Family ==
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== A's comments ==
   
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Why can't they be added to the introduction area of the abilities section? Its not in reference to his speed, its in reference to his power. A flat out said he thought Minato couldn't be surpassed after several fights against him during the Third Shinobi World War. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 17:50, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
why isn't naruto listed as Minato's son. {{unsigned|Hazel-rah}}
 
:He is listed to me. Try clearing your cache. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:49, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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:Have you read the second sentence of that section? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:37, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
== Mistake In Trivia ==
 
   
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==FTG's speed==
In the trivia, it states Minato to be in the Top Ten FOR THE FIRST TIME in the seventh Poll. But if I'm not mistaken I see him in the sixth poll, placing 9th place. Am I mistaken? [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 13:20, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Fixed~ good observation--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez™]]☺ 16:26, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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I wonder if it can be added to his S/T section that in the anime his FTG was shown to be faster than Tobirama's.
== Minato's Kunai jutsu (Movie) ==
 
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I watched the movie yesterday (the lost tower) and it show minato used the kunai jutsu (multiplication kunai). Is there any article of this jutsu ? [[User:Bakurayuri|Bakurayuri]] ([[User talk:Bakurayuri|talk]]) 06:36, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
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I also think his feet of teleporting to the Kunai that Lee threw in front of Guy, and then teleported away before Guy in his 8th Gate stage could even move is a noteworthy and an important feet to show his speed.[[User:Rex-05|Rex-05]] ([[User talk:Rex-05|talk]]) 16:17, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:How can something that's instantaneous be faster than... instantaneous?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:26, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
:There is actually, the [[Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique]]. It's all been mentioned.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™☺]] 06:38, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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it's fiction. Every thing is possible, and that's what was shown in the Anime regardless. Even in the manga
why the jutsu is not added into Minato skill list with the tag (Movie) ? {{unsigned|Bakurayuri}}
 
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Tobirama stated that the clones' usage of the FTG is slower, he did not ask your question about how instantaneous be faster, did he? And Minato agreed with him as well, no? [[User:Rex-05|Rex-05]] ([[User talk:Rex-05|talk]]) 16:58, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
   
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===Shurikenjutsu===
:Game and movie-only stuff aren't listed in infoboxes. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 15:22, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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Does it worth to mention that Tobirama stated that Minato is fast as striking too?
== Seiyu/Japanese voice actor? ==
 
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http://im61.gulfup.com/OAXUQ5.jpg[[User:Rex-05|Rex-05]] ([[User talk:Rex-05|talk]]) 19:06, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Picture change? ==
any idea which japaense voice actor as Minato in Kakashi Gaiden? I'm very confused if it wasn't Hikaru Midorikawa voiced as Minato??
 
   
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I found a "really good image" of him on the very bottom right slide of Pg 16 of chapter 122, [[User:Sasuke427|Sasuke427]] ([[User talk:Sasuke427|talk]]) 06:55, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 02:28, May 5, 2011 (UTC)Kunoichi101[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 02:28, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
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:No. We only use manga images when the anime version (or colored manga) isn't available. The wiki prefers colored images rather than black and white. The current image is fine. [[User:WindStar7125|<font color="blue">'''''WindStar7125'''''</font>]] [[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User:WindStar7125]] [[User talk:WindStar7125|<sup>(Talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|<sub>(Contributions)</sub>]] 06:59, August 23, 2014 (UTC)
:According to the ending credits, it was {{translation|Toshiyuki Morikawa|森川智之|Morikawa Toshiyuki}}. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 10:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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== Image ==
oh i see.
 
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Can we change Minato's info box image to [[:File:Minato Namikaze.png|this]]? The current one doesn't show off Minato's trademark bright yellow hair unlike the image im suggesting and visually, it shows more of his spikey hair on the top of his head. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 08:06, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 16:16, May 5, 2011 (UTC)kunoichi101[[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]])
 
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:Looks good to me. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|Contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 08:08, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Minato and Naruto's hair? ==
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== Uzumaki Clan ==
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I know I put this topic up a while back but if Minato doesn't belong into a clan then wouldn't that make him marrying into the Uzumaki clan?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 22:45, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
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:No, because:
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:#There's no Uzumaki Clan anymore, it was destroyed.
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:#Women marry into a clan/take their husband's surname, not the other way around.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:06, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Info ==
Hey! I know it's pretty meaningless, but I couldn't help but notice that in the anime, when Naruto and Minato are apart, they have the exact hair color. However, when they're together, Naruto's hair always seems lighter. It happened when Naruto met his dad during his battle with Pain and in the lost tower movie. Why do they keep changing his hair color?--[[User:Kai Maciel|Kai Maciel]] ([[User talk:Kai Maciel|talk]]) 10:18, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
:I'm not sure but I think Naruto's hair is lighter, maybe because of his mother's hair. _-_-=[[User:Ilnarutoanime|NejiLoverr26]] <sup> ([[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Ilnarutoanime|Contribs.]]-[[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Links]]) </sup> [[File:Konohagakure_Symbol.svg|20 px]] 10:21, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
::They have the same hair colour. However animators choose to animate this is not our fault or much of a concern as long as they're both blond.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 11:21, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah. You're right. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|NejiLoverr26]] ([[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Il]][[Special:Contributions/Ilnarutoanime|naruto]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|anime]])[[File:Konohagakure_Symbol.svg|20 px]] 11:26, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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I don't know where to put this honestly, but is it me, or his page lost tons of the context it had before?
== The "Kage bunshin no jutsu" ==
 
   
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== Minato's enemies ==
Minato could use the kage bunshin no jutsu, as mentioned by kakashi, in the chapter 330, page 06, could he? or the translation of japanese-english is different??
 
Kakashi says: "Naruto is the only who can do it, as he has enough chakra and domain of the kage bunshin no jutsu. Even to me, or to the Yondaime, would be hard..." So, we can say the yondaime can do the kage bunshin?{{Unsigned|189.31.172.89}}
 
:No. What Kakashi meant was that neither of them would be able to employ Naruto's training method he was using. Even if he was it's still an assumption so he cannot be listed.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 20:09, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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Did the manga ever mention, who these ominous enemies of Minato were Naruto was to be kept safe from? --[[User:Boris Baran|Boris Baran]] ([[User talk:Boris Baran|talk]]) 23:45, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
== Child of Prophecy ==
 
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:Nope, they were never mentioned, but it can probably be assumed to be any shinobi he fought when he lived... --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 23:46, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Debut ==
Should Minato really have this as a title? We know he's not the Child of Prophecy, Naruto and Nagato are. Jiraiya only thought he was.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 16:21, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 
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The manga only mentioned Minato in chapter one. Shouldn't we change it to the chapter he actually debuted?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 19:14, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:I agree. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 17:54, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Correct me if I'm wrong... ==
This isn't a question of should he have the nickname because he wasn't the child of prophecy, It is a nickname given to him, along with Saviour of this World, they are both his title's/nicknames too and should be added.
 
[[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 22:50, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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...but wasn't the [[Flying Thunder God Technique]] explicitly made part of Minato's speed, which is why he got the reputation. In that case, his speed with it shouldn't be taken out and his feats of avoiding the [[Lightning Straight]] or outpacing the [[Eight Gates Released Formation]] shouldn't be deleted from his article.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:01, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
It's not a nickname, but I do think it should stay because he was called the child of prophecy and apparently other people (going from what A said) knows about this, which probably means that he was hailed as such.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 23:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
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:He got his reputation from both. The info your added should be placed in his space–time ninjutsu section. Minato's natural speed and his FTG are two different things.--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 19:55, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::I'll add that his space-time ninjutsu section already says he can teleport somewhere instantly with FTG. I do not believe "instantly" needs to be further defined in terms of what jutsu are slower than it. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 20:04, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Anime Debut ==
== Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu ==
 
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I've been thinking. Minato only appeared as a silhouette is episode 1. If that were to be the case would his actual debut be when Hiruzen battled Orochimaru? Or Shippuden adapation of Kakashi Gaiden?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 18:05, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
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:Can someone reply to this thread and tell me if my point was good or not?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 20:39, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Image needs changing again ==
As we all can see in the 4th movie, Minato is able to use Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, so i would like someone could add it.--[[Special:Contributions/79.16.218.245|79.16.218.245]] ([[User talk:79.16.218.245|talk]]) 18:25, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
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I must say that the current image being used for minatos profile is absolutely terrible. That particular episode had poor animation, and you can see it in minatos face. The drawing looks really cheap, especially the hair, it doesn't even flow like natural hair, it looks extra spiky when it's not like that. I suggest this image [http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19100000/Minato-minato-namikaze-19135474-1280-720.jpg] in the link below as his main wiki profile image. You can see the animation looks very good and clean and nicely shows all his facial features. This one actually looks like minato namikaze drawn by Kishimoto, compared to that cheap one currently displayed on the page. --[[User:Madez|Madez]] ([[User talk:Madez|talk]]) 17:38, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
:He's been added to the list of users and even a notation made on the technique article page. However, you won't see it under his list of techniques because movie and game techniques are not listed in the infoboxes.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 18:28, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
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:Don't agree for any picture change, it represents him just fine, maybe you should read up the character appearance section. Just because you think that episode had poor animation doesn't mean it didn't provide good screenshots for Minato. Plus, your suggested picture is uploaded to fanpop.com (lol) and contains a watermark, so it won't be used here anyway. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 20:13, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
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::Per Sajuuk. Nothing wrong with the current image at all. If the reasons you listed were taken into account for every potential image change, we'd have endless debates on which images should be discarded or used to portray each character. Just so long as it best depicts what's noted in the appearance section.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 21:08, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I didn't mean to use that exact fanpop image, I was just suggesting an image similar to that. I took a couple screenshots of my own that look better and have no water marks, so before dismissing my suggestion, at least know I tried:
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::::[http://i.imgur.com/VIXb3oO.jpg] (this one shows almost his entire head and top of his hair, unlike the others)
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::::[http://i.imgur.com/pcxDDEs.jpg] (this one shows a bit less but looks bolder).
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:::Either of the two I just posted, I believe would look a lot better and more suitable. They resemble the character more to the art style of the author, the animation used in this episode is considerably better and clearer compared to the current picture being used. Also they're actually images from canon episodes and not filler like the current one. If you guys honestly feel that the current one is better than these, then I'm sorry for wasting anyone's time. I just thought why not use an actual image that resembles the character instead of one that looks like fan art. [[User:Madez|Madez]] ([[User talk:Madez|talk]]) 02:53, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
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::::The current image depicts the characters fine imo. The color of his hair in those images your suggesting are way to light. --[[User:Bio havik|Bio havik]] ([[User talk:Bio havik|talk]]) 04:14, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Lol. The episode in question where the current image came from is not filler. This wiki does not make decisions of taking images only from canon episodes, we just use an image that best describes the character in question, regardless of where that comes from. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 08:34, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
   
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== Sons ==
== How did he know that his unborn child was a boy? ==
 
   
Minato decided to name his child ''"Naruto"'' and Kushina agreed. But how did they know that the baby was a boy? Is ''Naruto'' an unisex name or do they have a way of find out the baby's gender? Maybe a sonography on the Hospital?--[[User:Kai Maciel|Kai Maciel]] ([[User talk:Kai Maciel|talk]]) 12:04, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
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Why didnt we add Menma Uzumaki as his Child with the movie only tag and Menma Namikaze as his child with anime only tag? The same with Kushinas infobox--[[User:Keeptfighting|Keeptfighting]] ([[User talk:Keeptfighting|talk]]) 08:36, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
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:Other than "The Last" and "Boruto", movie stuff isn't canon, so it doesn't get listed in the infoboxes of manga and anime. The Menma from the anime technically doesn't exist. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:06, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
:Sonography seems most likely. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 12:09, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 
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::Ok, get it. Thanks--[[User:Keeptfighting|Keeptfighting]] ([[User talk:Keeptfighting|talk]]) 17:49, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Sage? ==
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== Physical Prowess ==
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Can we really say that was the Body Flicker? Kakashi had a Flying Thunder God Kunai on him, did he not?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 18:03, September 14, 2015 (UTC)
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:Yes it was body flicker. The kanji displayed on the page is the high speed movement symbol which is used for body flicker. The he teleported to the FTG kunai, it would have been said.[[User:Madez|Madez]] ([[User talk:Madez|talk]]) 11:13, September 28, 2015 (UTC)
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Shouldnt the Body Flicker Technique be added to his jutsu list? Hear me out, minato was known for his speed which was in part because of his use of the flying thunder god technique but also because of his natural raw speed which came from his use of the body flicker technique. It was even stated in his physical prowess section so i don't understand why its not in his jutsu list. yes, i understand that when it comes to basic jutsu's which body flicker is its a common technique among ninja and isnt considered a special or unique skill of ninja. But theyre a exceptions, shisui who made a name for himself using the technique, which also applies to minato because as i stated earlier and also as its been stated on this site aswell, part of his fame because of the use of his speed partly stems from his use of this technique. thanks for listening, looking forward to your reply.[[User:Me1|Me1]] ([[User talk:Me1|talk]]) 12:21, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
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:Minato relies more on FTG than BFT. There's also the issue of the manga regularly misattributing actual spacetime ninjutsu feats to BFT when Minato is concerned. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:40, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
   
I know there is no concrete proof of him being a Sage like Naruto and Jiraiya, but I just wanted your opinion on chapter 330 when Gamabunta says to Fukasaku "Don't he remind you of those two." Do you think Minato might have been able to use Sage Mode? {{Unsigned|24.129.58.16}}
 
:It's highly unlikely since I think it would've been mentioned or he'd have used it by now. Minato was able to summon toads which means he interacted with them a lot, doesn't mean Bunta meant it in regards to Sage Mode, it could've just been how Naruto looks like his father (cape and blond hair) using sage mode (like Jiraiya) and the Rasengan.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 12:51, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
== Nature ==
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== '''Sage Mode 2''' ==
   
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Shouldn't Minato's article read 'haven't used it much in actual combat' rather than 'Never using it in battle' for his sage mode?
Does his nature not yet stated?--{{unsigned|120.28.64.69}}
 
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I think the viz scan also said the same and the raw scans translated in the nf page also supported it. --[[User:Minatoblitz|Minatoblitz]] ([[User talk:Minatoblitz|talk]]) 05:36, March 22, 2017 (UTC)
:If it were, you'd see it in his infobox.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 02:40, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
== Who knows ? ==
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== Timeline Inconsistency ==
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Minato said he and A would someday meet at Kage, would that not mean Minato was chosen by Hiruzen to be the fourth hokage, but was simply not inaugurated yet?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 16:18, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
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:Don't particularly recall the exact words, but I believe he said something like "we'll probably meet as Kage someday", as in "we're both strong shinobi, and likely to become Kage". Like I said, specific wording could paint a different picture. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:30, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
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::No inconsistency there. I suppose it could be compared to Danzo. Plus, there was the third war going on, so the situation might be a little more difficult. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 18:59, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
   
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== Misconception being inserted into page ==
in the latest manga , itachi stated that Naruto can be like his father , the Fourth Hokage , Does this mean that itachi already know it from the beginning ?
 
--[[User:KyoyaCloudX|KyoyaCloudX]] ([[User talk:KyoyaCloudX|talk]]) 03:14, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Looks like it. Suddenly every one and their mothers know who Naruto's parents where. It's like Naruto's life was part of an intelligence meeting of the Allied Shinobi Forces. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:17, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
maybe , because , how did raikage knew minato was naruto parent by telling him the story of his past--[[User:KyoyaCloudX|KyoyaCloudX]] ([[User talk:KyoyaCloudX|talk]]) 03:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
Well, waaayy back in Part 1, Itachi did say that he was after the Fourth's legacy, though one could take that as a reference to his sealing the kyubi in him, but that stretching it a bit. @Kyoya Well, A did fight Minato quite a bit apparently, so what with Naruto looking quite similar to someone he'd fought several times, it isn't too difficult to put that together. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 21:48, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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The new Gaiden has a scene where the Uzumaki are being talked about, and Minato is trying to add to Kushina's Jinchuriki seal to keep Kurama from coming free. Kurama compares that prowess to Hashirama so in context he is referring to sealing jutsu prowess but some fans are on here adding that it means Minato is the same calibre as Hashirama which it doesn't. If we insert that then we have to insert on Itachi's page how Hashirama himself says Itachi is a better Shinobi than he is and we both know how that will go. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 01:00, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
The Raikage could know from just talking to Naruto. Remember the conversation
 
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:I made the addition. There is a difference between Itachi's comparison to Hashirama and Minato's. Hashirama was talking more about Itachi's resolve. But, I will concede that maybe only Minato's fuinjutsu was the subject.[[User:Steveo920|Steveo920]] ([[User talk:Steveo920|talk]]) 05:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
A: "No one can beat me in speed now that the 4th Hokage has passed."
 
Naruto: "You knew my dad?"
 
But it probably was the meeting.[[Special:Contributions/76.106.146.190|76.106.146.190]] ([[User talk:76.106.146.190|talk]]) 13:04, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Doesn't change the fact the Raikage also knew that Kushina was his mother. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:27, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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I noticed, it wouldn't make sense that Minato's power was being compared to Hashirama anyway especially when you consider that he and his team got whooped earlier by Han and Roshi and all of them including Jiraiya were beat up so Minato had to use FTG for them all to escape when if that was Hashirama he would have beaten both of them with ease. He also goes on to say Kushina is stronger than he is. That SuperSaiyanMan person is edit warring over this. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 19:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
== 'Savior of this World' title? ==
 
   
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According to different translations, Kurama said "A most powerful Shinobi ranking alongside First Hokage Hashirana, unbelievable"
Is this supposed to be in his infobox? According the the [[Savior_of_this_World|page]], he wasn't referred to as such. Which is it supposed to be? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 21:53, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
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or "A Shinobi of the caliber of the first Hokage Hashirama... there are others like him still around"?
:[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Cerez365/Archive_4#Re:_Chapter_541 According to Shounensuki], he was never called "Saviour of this World" just Saviour.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 21:58, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
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instead of writing that Kurama compared Minato's sealing abilities to Hashirama, when he never explicitly said "his sealing abilities are like those of Hashirama's", Kurama's statement should be left as stated in the manga, and leave the interpretation of its meaning to the reader...
So is it alright if I remove it? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 22:03, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:I would think so, since though that's what he might've meant, he never called him that so it cannot be listed. But that's just my opinion so we should wait and see what others think.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 22:05, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
Sounds like a plan. I think that's likely what A meant, but I don't care either way. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 22:13, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Like I said it's what he meant, It'd be fine with me either way.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 22:19, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
::Can go either way for me. A didn't use the exact same title for him, but it would stand to reason that he simply shortened the title. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:08, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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If we're going to talk about interpretation in this case, then this applies to other pages too, which means I have an edit to go do. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 01:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
== Variation of the Shuriken Shadow Clone Tech.? ==
 
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**There is no 'open up to interpretation here'. Kurama explicitly compared Minato's power to Hashirama's. This is different than Hashirama comparing Itachi to himself as a ninja since it wasn't about power he was talking about there. We had an explicit statement of power between two individuals and Minato's power was even shown when his Rasengan stalemated Kurama's Bijudama. You're just trying to make excuses to make fanboyesque edits to pages you like.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 
On these page (http://www.mymangaspot.com/naruto/542/12/ and http://www.mymangaspot.com/naruto/542/13/) pages of 542, Minato uses what, to me, appears to be a kunai version of the the [[Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique]]. I'm not saying it needs to be added immediately, but I just thought it should be given consideration. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:08, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:He just grabbed extra kunai from his pouch.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 01:14, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
I highly doubt he got several dozen kunai from his pouch...with one hand...
 
Edit: I counted, there were at least 27 FTG kunai thrown. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:16, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
::On page 12 you can see him holding a bunch of them in his pouch. They might have even been attached to a wire (page 13).--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:21, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The fourth is a fast person and I doubt Kishi wanted to draw Minato taking out every kunai.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:22, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
I'm just saying, how could he hold that many in his pouch. The thing wasn't even a foot wide. @Umishiru Speed doesn't let you override space limitations. o_O [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:25, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Obviously the thing is not drawn to scale. Plus this is a fiction work with a author who sucks at science.Besides how do you know what it can or can't hold?[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
Because the panel shows how large it is. In any case, you can see next to his sleeve that there are only about 6 kunai there. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:30, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Oh, so you can see all of the space in there all the way to the bottom of it? I doubt it.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:31, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
They're sitting right side up, meaning they're touching the bottom, therefor there can't be any under them, or at least, not a large amount. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:39, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Well unless your kishi or Minato turned his bag upside down and shook all of the stuff out of it, you can't be 100% sure.Just because t doesn't look like t holds much doesn't mean it doesn't.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:44, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
I'm trying to avoid dragging this on because this isn't a forum, but the six or so FTG kunai that are there are obviously touching the bottom of the pouch. There's no need to see the inside if we can visibly see the kunai poking out. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:47, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
::Poking out the bottom? Those could easily be the kunai not shown thrown. Why are you talking about drawn out? Talk about the subject at hand or not at all. But if you wanna get to the point, your request for a new tech has been denied.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:50, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I meant that I'm trying to avoid repeating myself thereby drawing this out. And what kunai not shown being thrown? My point: Minato reaches into his. Grabs some Kunai. About 6 are shown directly next to his hand. Roughly 30 kunai are thrown. With his hand in the pouch and several kunai next to it, there couldn't be that many in the pouch with the obvious limited space of the pouch. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:54, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Or Kishi didn't want to waster panels showing every little thing. I am done, reply if you want.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 01:56, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
You don't have to act like I'm implying some crazy thing is going on. I merely pointed out how what you were suggesting couldn't be true. I'm done. I'll wait for someone else to reply. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 02:46, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Age ==
 
 
I wanted to know his age, the article only notes he's deceased, but it doesn't say what age he was at the time, I think it might be in a databook. Could anyone tell me what's it?, or better, put it in the article in brackets in the "age" field? {{unsigned|201.213.134.211}}
 
 
:No age was ever given for him. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 15:25, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
 
::Oh, well, nevermind--{{unsigned|201.213.134.211}}
 
 
It is mentioned somewhere that he was chosen too be Hokage before the age of thirty. and minato died shortly after he bacame the Hokage, so i asume he is somwhere between 25 and 30. {{unsigned|85.164.34.212}}
 
 
:Can you provide proof of that? As ShounenSuki said, his age is never mentioned at any point in the Naruto story. --[[User:Speysider|speysider]] ([[User talk:Speysider|talk]]) 23:20, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
We know he was chosen as Hokage before thirty because when Shikaku suggests Kakashi to be Hokage after Tsunade slips in a coma for healing everyone during Pain's invasion, one of the assistants of the Fire Daimyō says that his age shouldn't be a problem, mentioning that Minato was younger when he was made Hokage. Kakashi's age in Part II according to the Third Databook, which covers up to just after Itachi's death is thirty. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:57, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Stats ==
 
 
Does Minato have stats? {{unsigned|24.44.49.152}}
 
:Obviously not. If any databook had published his stats, we would list it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:52, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Shuriken Kage Bunshin Revisited ==
 
 
I noticed above that y'all were talking about Minato using the titular jutsu. I lean on the side of him using a kunai version of it sionce a few dozen of 'em came out of that tools pouch of his and based off of what we've seen, that's puppies aren't big enough to hold that much. Can it be added? Pwease? :3 [[Special:Contributions/166.216.194.29|166.216.194.29]] ([[User talk:166.216.194.29|talk]]) 05:50, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Nien. There are too many reasons why it could not have been the technique to do that.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 08:01, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Such as..? [[Special:Contributions/166.216.194.65|166.216.194.65]] ([[User talk:166.216.194.65|talk]]) 14:17, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
:If you read the above discussion you'll see. I highly doubt Kishimoto was thinking that technically when he drew that scene. They also looked like they were attached to a wire string.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:32, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Konoha still at war when Minato is Hokage ==
 
 
The Hyuuga incident occurred right after the Third Great Shinobi War with Kumogakure ended. --[[User:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|Councilor &#39;Rumilee]] ([[User talk:Councilor &#39;Rumilee|talk]]) 05:23, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
The three great wars were not the only wars that happened. Besides the third war was only mentioned as being between Kohona, Iwa, and Suna. Plus there was no indication that the leaf was in war in anyway during his tenure due to it being brief.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 06:50, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Potential ==
 
 
A looonng time ago, ShounenSuki mentioned that it was said that [[Talk:Hokage#Question|Minato had the potential to surpass Hiruzen]]. I asked him via his talk page if he had a source for it and am awaiting an answer. For now, I was wondering if anyone else has found mention of this or something similar and where, as that seems like something that should be in his abilities section. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 22:52, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Uhm, I'm not too sure there's a source for those words exactly It sounds more like a conclusion drawn from you know, reading the manga and collecting info etc. I may be wrong though. If I am right however I fear that those that worship the Yellow Flash would probably mutiny or something. —[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 22:58, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Yes, you may very well be right. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 01:15, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Mistaken Identity ==
 
 
In ch. 571, when Kakashi mistakes Naruto for Minato ([http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/60737455/4 here specifically]), would that be based on his looks, speed or both? If it's both, shouldn't the speed comparison be mentioned? [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 18:24, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:It's a bit of both I think, though it's mostly the speed. However, I don't think Naruto's speed is established enough for someone like Minato to be compared to it. Maybe vice versa. Sorry for that, but I'm a bit of a stickler when it comes to the way in which people are credited. — [[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 18:29, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hopefully, Kishi will end up doing that prequel with Minato that he discussed the possibility of doing a while back.
 
Oh, and someone added a new bit about his speed. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 06:29, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Hopefully.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 11:30, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Namikaze clan ==
 
 
How come there is no Forum page for the Namikaze clan.
 
--[[User:Soulbro97|Soulbro97]] ([[User talk:Soulbro97|talk]]) 18:47, February 5, 2012 (UTC)soulbro97
 
 
:Because there is no such clan? --[[User:Speysider|speysider]] ([[User talk:Speysider|talk]]) 18:48, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Just as far as we know. If the clan is ever mentioned, a page for it will be created. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:13, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I want to ask as well, if Minato isn't from a clan do we know anything about his childhood that wasn't from Kushina's story? Is he from a civilian family, or is he an orphan like his son? If not, maybe he is from a minor clan from outside Konoha, like maybe one of the many clans that used to be from Mist before the civil war? I'm mainly asking out of curiosity, so if you guys don't have any information about it just feel free to say that you don't know. --[[User:Marael|Marael]] ([[User talk:Marael|talk]]) 18:38, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Outside of Kushina's story, we know only that he was a prodigy so no, nothing about his family.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:40, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Stats table. ==
 
 
Could you please add a stats table for Minato? Thanks you.{{unsigned|78.147.232.130}}
 
:Yes we can. As soon as [[Masashi Kishimoto]] generates one for him.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 18:25, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Minato back history==
 
In the naruto generations game minato's background history and as we are aware kishimoto worked along with the designers of the game to develop extra information would we then consider adding to his background the extra parts. ?
 
--[[User:Zenryoku90|Zenryoku90]] ([[User talk:Zenryoku90|talk]]) 15:51, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Kishimoto worked with them? Or do you mean the animators worked with the game creators to create the OVAs. A source/link would also be appreciated.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:53, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::The only sources I ever saw said that the anime producers worked with the game producers to make those animated scenes. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:54, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Ah. I highly doubt Kishimoto would have signed off on ½ the things they did in that.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 16:05, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Such as make it seem like Kakashi could actually put that kind of pressure on Minato, or that a simply [[Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique|Great Fireball]] would force him to use FTG...*GRUMBLE GRUMBLE* [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 04:23, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Lol. Jashin will punish them Skitts.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:02, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Just in Case ==
 
 
In case anyone wanted to know what was literally said about Minato in Part 1 in regards to the first reference in his abilities:
 
:'''"I'd say being compared to the Fourth would be harsh on anyone, right. Anyhow, that guy's calibre as a shinobi was number one in history… His brilliant mind was overflowing with talent for techniques… He had popularity galore. Well… he was as handsome a man as I am, no."''' (「四代目と比べられりゃ誰だってキツイだろーよ。なんせ あやつは忍としての器は歴代一だった…術の才に溢れ頭脳明晰…人望に満ち、まぁ…ワシ並みに男前だったしのォ」, "Yondaime to kuraberarerya dare datte kitsui darō yo. Nanse, ayatsu wa shinobi toshite no utsuwa wa rekidaiichi datta… Jutsu no sai ni afure zunō meiseki… Jinbō ni michi, maa… Washi nami ni otokomae datta shi no~") —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 11:24, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:[[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 04:49, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Was this from the Databook or an interview of some kind? I'm really interested in knowing the source of this. {{Unsigned|177.66.178.35}}
 
:It was said by Jiraiya (and agreed to by Tsunade) in chapter 158 page 5. This is a correct, proper translation that this wiki's resident translator, ShounenSuki, gave to me on my request. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 21:16, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Infobox picture ==
 
 
I think the current one is too bright. How about this, taken from Kakashi Gaiden?--[[User talk:Johnny Thunder|Who cares about signature?]] 11:32, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
[[File:Minato newshot.jpg|thumb]]
 
 
:Hilariously enough, that was his old picture from a ways back. It was changed, then changed again to what we have now. Personally I prefer the current one as he doesn't have any wounds, and he's wearing his traditional coat--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Uzumaki Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:45, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::^ this. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 11:53, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Kay, I get it.--[[User talk:Johnny Thunder|Who cares about signature?]] 16:09, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, what TU3 said. He has a point. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleespinoff|My Wiki]]) 12:22, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Minato's come full-circle apparently.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]12:36, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== info box question ==
 
 
Why it's isn't stated that Minato belonged to Mount Myōboku like his Sensei and his son ? it was proven many time that he was able to summon Gamabunta nor to mention how many times the frog community talked about him --[[User:Tchad1|Tchad1]] ([[User talk:Tchad1|talk]]) 14:40, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Naruto and Jiraiya are affiliated to Myōbokuzan because they learned Senjutsu there. Not because they can summon the creatures. At least that's what I'm assuming.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:43, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
hum strange , it should be because they sign contracts to summon the toad because without it they can't do it , but i guess we can't be sure about it --[[User:Tchad1|Tchad1]] ([[User talk:Tchad1|talk]]) 14:46, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
:But a summoner can possibly spend their entire life not going to where the summoned creatures live- hence they'd be affiliated/associated with the creature, not the place. If Jiriaya hadn't died, the possibility exists that Naruto would have never gone to Myōbokuzan.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:54, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
oh ok i understand your point , i guess kishi should be a bit more detailed on all those things so we have a clear mind ... anyways thank you i was just curious --[[User:Tchad1|Tchad1]] ([[User talk:Tchad1|talk]]) 14:57, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Skilled with barriers? ==
 
 
When he teleported Kurama out of konoha he said something like 'I must put up a barrier' but then Kushina did hers, this could mean he's pretty skilled with such things if he expected it to hold a full powered Nine Tails, should it be mentioned?--{{unsigned|FlyingRaijin 1}}
 
:Kushina did that not Minato.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:50, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yes but Minato wanted to perform one. Read it here
 
 
http://nas.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=Naruto/Naruto%20c503/13.png&server=nas.html
 
 
Minato: gotta put up a barrier
 
Kushina: My chakra's almst drained.
 
 
Kushina then performs her own barrier.
 
 
Then on the next page--- http://nas.homeunix.com/onlinereading/?image=Naruto/Naruto%20c503/14.png&server=nas.html
 
 
Minato: Kushina!
 
 
Minato is shocked that Kushina performed the barrier and shouted at her.
 
Meaning he didn't expect her to do it, and we know he wasn't expecting baby Naruto to do it or the Nine Tails to trap himself inside a barrier meaning that when he said in the previous page 'gotta put up a barrier' he meant he has to put up a barrier. Assuming he isn't stupid, he should know whether or not the barrier he wanted to put up would be big and powerful enough to hold Kurama. This should at least be trivia worthy if its not good enough to be mentioned in his Abilities section. *annoyed face*--[[User:FlyingRaijin|FlyingRaijin]] ([[User talk:FlyingRaijin|talk]]) 18:19, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Minato told Kushina to put up a barrier, and yelled her name because he saw it took a toll on her, as seen by her scream and her trembling. Simple as that. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:28, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I don't think he would make sense for someone to even ask an individual who just went through childbirth and a bijuu extraction to even throw a kunai much less make a powerful barrier. ANd then be surprised it took a toll? are we not to decide on the basis that Minato is a genius, not an idiot? Is there a way to translate it?[[User:FlyingRaijin|FlyingRaijin]] ([[User talk:FlyingRaijin|talk]]) 18:01, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
From what I saw Minato warped with Kurama and Kushina, said he had to erect a barrier and was really winded, Kushina says she can still help, creates some chains to bind Kurama erecting a barrier intricately with the chains, Minato goes "Kushina" because he didn't want her overexterting herself having just gone through chile birth and surviving tailed-beast extraction. But it shouldn't be too far-fetched to persons given the life force the Uzumaki have.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:29, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So...we adding it?[[User:FlyingRaijin|FlyingRaijin]] ([[User talk:FlyingRaijin|talk]]) 01:34, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Still wouldn't add it. He said that a barrier had to be put up. That doesn't necessarily implies he knows how to make barriers. The only barrier we know Minato is capable of forming is the one he did with the Flying Thunder God Technique, and that doesn't really serve the purpose of containment, at the least the way we saw it being used. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:55, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Hmmm...the only way we can know for sure is if we get a direct translation of what he said there. Is t 'gotta put up a barrier' or 'I've gotta put up a barrier'[[User:FlyingRaijin|FlyingRaijin]] ([[User talk:FlyingRaijin|talk]]) 02:19, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Hokage ==
 
 
It seems he became hokage at least seven years before the events of Kakashi Gaiden. --[[User:Aged Goblin|<font size="4"><span style='color: Goblin'><font face="Old English Text MT">'''''The Goblin'''''</font></span></font>]] 14:47, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Doesn't that contradict with what we know? Thought he, the hero of the 3rd war was made a Kage for his actions during it. Kishi sure haz to check his own ****--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:51, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Lool. I never realised that. Maybe Kishi drew it by accident. Was it ever said that he became Hokage after SWWIII cononically or did we just assume? Oddly, Hiruzen isn't wearing the Kage outfit just the hat and a normal kimono but at the same time Minato was in shinobi attire. I feel like there's more to this than we know.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:57, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:ShounenSuki/Timeline#cite_note-4thHokage-17 not to mention that another book states that his reign didn't last long--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:15, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Rasengan ==
 
 
It's about the Rasengan. Why isn't it listed as part of his jutsus? --[[Special:Contributions/174.88.84.81|174.88.84.81]] ([[User talk:174.88.84.81|talk]]) 06:47, September 1, 2012 (UTC)Stanley
 
:Probably due to the bugs after the system upgrade. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 07:13, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Chikara Arc ==
 
 
The way I interpreted Minato's appearance in the Chikara Arc was as Naruto's memory of him rather than him actually being there. I also thought it could be a remade flashback of sorts, and I say remade because of Kurama's chakra seemingly pealing off of Naruto, which didn't happen before. [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 20:53, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Made the same topic, everyone ignored it--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:10, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== y u no sensor? ==
 
 
I would say yes, if anyone provides anything sensory from him other than finger stuff and Naruto's chakra everyone felt. If he was a sensor, he would have known "I, Uchiha Madara" to be Obito, I think.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:47, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Already took care of it.--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 09:50, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Let's not forget that at the time, Obito's body was almost completely rebuilt with artificial limbs made from Hashirama's cells. Tobirama himself didn't realize at first that Orochimaru's body was now a Zetsu clone. Steveo920, 8:56, February 16, 2013
 
:Minato does seem to have more sensory acuity that others. What kind of clinched it for me was the finger thing in the Kakashi gaiden which is just like what Tobirama did before.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:21, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I never thought much of him having sensory skills, but now that you bring it up, he did seem to notice not only Kurama's chakra but also Naruto's and even that their chakra was getting "in sync" (no pun intended). Also the finger thing (that sounds dirty), Tobirama did it too, and it turns out that he was a sensor. Out of the reincarnated Hokage, he and Tobirama were the only ones who were shown to have noticed certain chakras, and the only other one also did the finger thing (i really gotta stop saying that).[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 15:27, February 16, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
 
 
I think we should at least list "potential" sensors in trivia, Minato is easily 50/50 there's as much evidence as there's lack thereof lol--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:23, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
: 'Yah like with Ino.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 18:25, February 16, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
 
 
When did she display a sensory feat?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:44, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
: In the chapter where Ino-Shika-Chō faught the Sound Genin, and in Shippūden when she noted how sinnister Kakuzu's chakra felt. And considering many of her known clan members are Sensors.......[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 18:47, February 16, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
 
 
Ugh, reading that, she is definitely a sensor, why is here even a doubt? Yes. everyone can sense strong and large amounts of chakra, but she even commented on how it's different from before--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:02, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
: And how she said "Now get out of here! And when you get far enough away that i can't '''feel your chakra''', than i'll let her go."[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.231|71.71.58.231]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.231|talk]]) 19:05, February 16, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan
 
 
The "I" part is important, if she said "so we can't" then it would be vague, there's nothing but evidence to list her as a sensor. But the topic should be continued on her page, back to Minato ^_--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:17, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
: I may not be one of the people in charge of the Naruto series or even this website, but come on already. Various characters are listed as sensor-types without being called such, because they showed their skill in one way or another, like Mu. Minato IS a sensor-type. And its not like it completely changes who he is, like saying Madara is a medical ninja for his surgical skills for example. Please, I'm just trying to make this page better with the truth. Let me put it back on Minato's page. Steveo920, 16:25, February 16, 2013
 
 
In Minato's case, I'm both for and against. The feeling land vibration theory is kinda ridiculous, but again, this is a manga, so... also Sasuke and band could feel Naruto's chakra as well, yet Minato was the only one to sense Kurama's chakra as well and Hiruzen nor Hashirama said a thing. Hashi fought against Kurama, he should be the first to notice. Also Minato noticed something along with Tobirama, at the same time on the same panel--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:34, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
The chakra was so large that everyone could feel it. Nothing special about Minato.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 05:29, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Then why didn't Hiruzen or Hashirama notice it? Keep in mind, Sasuke and the others were outside when the felt Naruto/Kurama's immense chakra. The Hokages were deep underground. Steveo920 19:17 February 17, 2013
 
: What would they say...?'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 19:05, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
What does that mean exactly? Steveo920, 20:48, February 19, 2013
 
: I think he means "what would they say in that position to confirm that they are indeed Sensors".--[[User:Yomiko-chan|Yomiko-chan]] ([[User talk:Yomiko-chan|talk]]) 01:57, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Only Tobirama and Minato commented on Naruto/Kurama's chakra, Tobirama determining the location and Minato the nature of the chakra. Steveo920, 21:03, February 19, 2013
 
:Just because they didn't say anything, it doesnot mean they couldn't feel it.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 04:09, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Let's for a second say that Minato isn't a sensor like Sasuke, who new Naruto for a good while. Sasuke didn't sense any different from Kurama's chakra like when he fought Naruto at the Valley of End, but Minato, who only knew Naruto for less than one night, was able to tell the change in Kurama's chakra mixed with Naruto. Please, let's stop this argument and just classify him as a sensor. Quite frankly, saying he isn't a sensor in this case is the same as saying Tobirama isn't since its the same situation. Steveo920, 23:23, February 19, 2013
 
 
:Um, no. Minato has been in contact with both Naruto's and Kurama's chakra. Also, none of the hokage actually said anything about the chakra. Both Tobirama's and Minato's responses were in thought bubbles. Showing what the other kages responses were served no purpose, so we have no idea whether or not they could also feel the chakra. There is no definitive proof that Minato is a sensor, so he won't be classified as one. [[User:MangekyoSasuke|MangekyoSasuke]] ([[User talk:MangekyoSasuke|talk]]) 05:19, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
::While not saying it's unlikely, it does seem like we need more information on this, afterall, Hashirama was also able to tell that Orochimaru was using his cells which could classify him as a "sensor". So all that has to be done is waiting until more concrete evidence is presented.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 06:54, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Body Flicker Technique ==
 
 
Minato was infamous for his speed, well considered the fastest shinobi ever. Even A, a shinobi noted for his skill with the Body Flicker Technique, admitted that Minato still outclassed him. We should add this technique to Minato's list due to his considerable skill in it. Steveo920, 13:16, February 19, 2013
 
 
He wasn't fast due to Body Flicker but his own reflexes + flying thunder god--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:47, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Not everything he did distance-wise was the Flying Thunder God. He had to mark a target first. He saved Kakashi from a distance without the Flying Thunder God.Steveo920, February 19, 2013 20:47
 
 
:He teleported to the Kunai he gave Kakashi, if you're referring to the Iwagakure nin from Kakashi Gaiden. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 05:07, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Well he never touched Naruto before Obito took him hostage as a baby but Minato was able to reach Naruto in time to catch him. I'm just saying that like A, Minato had remarkable mobility even without the FHG. Steveo920, 0:19 February 20, 2013
 
 
Yes he is extremely fast but everyone knows this like the E-rank justu that everyone learns in the academy. It's only added to someone like Shisui because they were expressly famous for it's use. Flying Thunder God trumps Body Flicker that's why even though Minato undoubtedly used it, it's not necessary to add to his list. Body Flicker wasn't the source of his greatest speed advantage and not what he was most famous for. His speed is covered in great detail in his abilities section, it would really be redundant to add to his jutsu list. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 05:27, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Uzumaki Clan ==
 
   
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Incorrect, Kurama talked about the Uzumaki and the seal and in context with him saying "he's not even Uzumaki" then making the comparison we can see that he was referring to Minato's sealing jutus prowess, especially considering it was Hashirama who sealed Kurama into Mito. But since this is supposed to be left up to interpretation then that's how it will be and you are the one doing fanboyesque nonsense and edit warring, removing that line from Itachi's page and being a hypocrite. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 01:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Shouldn't Minato be labeled as a member of the Uzumaki Clan? Clan is defined as a group of people related by blood or marriage.{{unsigned|Cloudtheavenger}}
 
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* He only mentioned the statement about Minato's power and prowess AFTER seeing the seal. He explicitly said through multiple translations that Minato was as strong or of the same calibre as Hashirama. You're downplaying it or trying to make edits to Itachi's page (or others) to boost them since you have a little bit of a agenda. Hashirama laughed and joked Itachi was a better ninja than him SINE HE HAD THE RESOLVE TO KILL HIS OWN FAMILY FOR THE VILLAGE. He didn't say Itachi was on his level of power or that he was as strong as him. You leave out the context. And its not even the same thing with Minato here since Kurama explicitly calls Minato as strong or of the same caliber as Hashirama. So you're not only wrong you are pushing your agenda.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
Naruto's surname was staged, Minato didn't take on Kushina's.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:31, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Gaiden page 30 Kurama notices a sealing jutsu being used "Sealing Jutsu?! By Whom?!"
I know but Minato was still married to a member of the Uzumaki Clan as I stated above clan is a group of people related by blood or marriage. What's more Naruto is a member of the Uzumaki Clan as well therefore Minato is now a blood member of the Uzumaki Clan (depends on how you see it) [[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 04:43, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
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Gaiden page 31, Kurama says "The Brat... he's not even of the Uzumaki Clan and yet... ... He's augmenting the Tetragram Seal in his own Style! A most powerful Shinobi ranking alongside First Hokage Hashirama... Unbelievable!" "Why is a SHINOBI... of your caliber fussing over this lass?!"
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Going by this, Kushina is stronger than Minato according to Minato, going by this Kurama is referring to his sealing capabilities. But again we are to be leaving it to fan interpretation which means you need to stop edit warring on Itachi's page. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 01:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Grrr... I dunno, I got crazy from this by now, this whole clan thing is messed up--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:56, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
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* !. You are not a mod, the only one having an issue with the edits here is you. You're trying to make it seem like an issue when its not. Seeing such a complex sealing jutsu surprised Kurama and then he explicitly says Minato is as strong as Hashirama. There's no 'interpretation' there, its flat out fact.
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^ 3. Minato thinks Kushina is stronger than him based on the context of her having to deal with Kurama ll the time yet have not given into despair or lost hope. And not only that its because he loves her. Could Kushina be stronger? Maybe, we don't have the feats or other statements but the context is different than what you're trying to put in.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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Fan interpretation, that's what you are missing here. Hashirama said that Itachi is a better Shinobi than he is. You don't like that? That's too bad, we are to leave it up to fan interpretation. Being a better Shinobi, or the same calibre of Shinobi are both in the same vein. Stop edit warring. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 01:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
If my arguments were effective enough I'd like to have permission to update this information about Minato and about Hashirama, Mito, Tsunade, and Nawaki as well.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 00:31, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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: Its not 'fan interpretation'. Hashirama's statement was after he heard Itachi had killed his own Clan, his own Family for the sake of Konoha. With no knowledge of Itachi's abilities at all. Saying he is a 'better shinobi' means he could follow through with his orders and burden the hatred of the world better than Hashirama could. You're making the interpretation when its about power. when it was explicitly put about his character, not his abilities. Again, you're trying to use this to justify fanboyesque edits while taking this out of context again. You remind me of the Itachi fanboys that used to be on this site and tried to make him the strongest character of the verse years ago despite their edits not being true in the slightest.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:01, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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Your ad hominems don't help you. Minato was using a sealing jutsu to try and strengthen her seal. That was literally it. There was nothing else Kurama could have been comparing it to in context so obviously it was referring to Sealing Jutsu prowess in context. But since you want it to be as if Minato is Hashirama's level despite him getting folded by Roshi and Han and having to retreat along with Jiraiya when we all know Hashirama would have folded both of them on his own with no help then you can leave that up there, but stop edit warring on the Itachi page. Leave the words up to fan interpretation. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:04, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Wouldn't really say that. He may have learned Uzumaki techniques, but he has never been referred to as an Uzumaki himself. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:47, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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: The statement isn't up for interpretation at all. He said Minato's caliber was the same as Hashirama's and he was amazed a shinobi this strong was still alive. Especially seeing how complex the sealing jutsu that Minato made. Minato wasn't fighting Roshi and Han, he was getting his allies out of there since they were vulnerable. And then we have Minato later, after perfecting the Rasengan? ''Matching Kurama's Bijudama with it''. Making Kurama's statement have more weight than just his sealing prowess.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
He doesn't need to be in order to be referred as a member of the Uzumaki Clan. With the definition of clan as I've stated twice above his marriage to Kushina makes him a member of the Uzumaki Clan.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 00:50, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
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Rasengan is made to match the Bijuu Dama, we see that happen and then a bright light and Minato wakes up in the hospital so again that's your interpretation. You are adding your own interpretations here as fact but get upset when others do so in other pages, all the while adding in ad hominems and edit warring. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:10, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
I agree with Cloudtheavenger. [[User:Csfranklin|Csfranklin]] ([[User talk:Csfranklin|talk]]) 01:03, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
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: I'm not adding my own interpretations. I'm putting in facts. This is what happened. YOU are making interpretations to justify things. [[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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Hashirama literally says "A Shinobi even greater than I!" when referring to Itachi. That's the line, that's the statement. It's just fine in the abilities section, you just don't want it there due to YOUR interpretation. Leave it to fan interpretation and stop edit warring. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't think you'll find many others here who would agree to that. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:57, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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: And that statement is because Itachi was able to shoulder the hatred of the village on him for killing the Uchiha even though he was saving it. That's why Hashirama called him a better shinobi since he was willing to take that burden. You wonder why it was never added to Itachi's ability section before, that's why. Since the context made it not a power statement, but a personality trait that Itachi had. This was attempted to be added in the past but ruled it wasn't a power statement in the slightest especially since Hashirama had no context of Itachi's skills or powers. We have Kurama, who fought Hashirama, make a ''direct comparison''to Minato's power being of the same level or at it to Hashirama, that's different since he has the context and knowledge of both character's abilities. And Minato later would show, with a BASIC RASENGAN, to match Kurama's own Bijudama which is unprecedented. You're comparing apples to oranges, these two statements are not the same and should not be considered the same. Do you understand now.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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The lines before that were "at all of seven years of age, he thoguht quite like a hokage... we left everything to Itachi, in his hands alone... and he executed his missions perfectly. He slaughtered all of his brethren, stopped a revolt... prevented a coming war all by himself... he even infiltrated the Akatsuki as a spy to protect the village. On the condition that I protect YOU within the village." Hashirama says about this "Well then... Sasuke, you had a good older brother... a Shinobi even greater than I." Itachi's abilities are clearly being mentioned as well just not in a direct comparison a this point, afterwards Hashirama plainly states "A Shinobi even greater than I." So this can be left to fan interpretation and left in. YOU are the one who wants to put your own interpretation in instead of leaving it plain. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Only one way to find out. Let's wait a week and if more people agree with me in this section then do I have permission to update that information on Minato and the others related to the Uzumaki Clan by marriage?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 01:59, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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: YOu put in the context and completely ignore it. None of what Hashirama said after learning that is of a power statement. Its of a character statement. You're again, comparing apples to oranges to justify what you're calling me out for: fan interpretation. I even told you the reason why it wasn't included, why it was put in there in the past but was decided to not be a statement of Itachi's power. Seriously, if you want to add that put that in the right section. It doesn't belong in abilities and you know, deep down, that it doesn't. Please, this is getting ridiculous and getting us nowhere since you're refusing to see any side of the argument but your own.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:36, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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No, you are the one acting as if it can't be in both sections. It can be about power and character, it's about fan interpretation. You just don't WANT it in the abilities section and are adding your own definition to it. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:38, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Maybe if there had been any indication anyone ever considered Minato an Uzumaki in the manga. Minato's situation isn't the same as Mito's. As far as we know, he just a married a woman, who did not take his name, and had a children who ended up taking her name. You're only part of one clan at a time. Mito "became" a Senju by marrying into the clan. Every single one of her offspring, despite having Uzumaki blood, is not considered Uzumaki. Tsunade has only ever been considered a Senju, despite having an Uzumaki grandparent. Mito is only listed as being part of both clans because was born an Uzumaki, and married into the Senju. Going through the relevant talk page archives will show you that much. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:19, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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: Except it can't man. You put in the context, it has nothing to do with power in the statement especially since Hashirama is in the dark about Itachi's abilities. Seriously its like i'm talking to a brick wall here.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
:I agree with Omnibender. Naruto was only given his mother's surname to conceal the fact that he's Minato's son. We really can't say what Minato's situation in this is. Did he mary into Kushina's clan rather than the other way around? Did Kushina ever actually take Minato's surname? Unless it's actually stated, we really can't know for sure. So it's probably best to not list Minato as an Uzumaki. [[User:Blackchaos27|Blackchaos27]] ([[User talk:Blackchaos27|talk]]) 03:11, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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"Slaughtered the Uchiha clan, thought like a Hokage at age 7, executed his missions flawlessly, stopped a rebellion, stopped a coming war, did it all on his own." These are some of what Hashirama has heard. He is clearly speaking of his abilities as well at this point. Again, leave it to fan interpretation. It can be in both. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
If you marry the member of a clan you become a member of it. There is no "marrying into a clan" if two members of 2 different clans marry they're considered members of each other's clan. For instance Hashirama married Mito and he's a member of the Senju and Uzumaki Clan Mito vice versa. Tsunade is never stated to be a member of the Senju clan either just Hashirama's granddaughter yet we all consider her to be a member of the Senju Clan (at least I don't think she was never considered a Senju). What's more how can you know Mito married into the Senju clan and Hashirama didn't marry into the Uzumaki clan? It was never stated. But I am seeing your points. [[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 07:12, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:No, you're reaching. Many of those weren't his power or skill that Itachi did either. Why do you think this is about power when it was ruled in the past it wasn't?[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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:: But whatever, I'm done.[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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Kurama's lines about Minato were in reaction to his sealing jutsu usage in trying to strengthen and alter the Tetragam Seal and him not being an Uzumaki yet still able to do so, which implies it is directly about his sealing jutsu prowess and comparing that to Hashirama since Hashirama was the one who sealed Kurama into Mito.. but YOUR interpretation is that somehow makes Minato the same level in general/overall as Hashirama when it was never referring to chakra levels, power, speed, raw strength, or anything else. Just Sealing Jutsu Skill/knowledge. So again, leave it all to fan interpretation and stop inserting your own interpretation and edit warring. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 02:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
If you're a member of the X clan and become a member of the Y clan upon marrying someone from it, your child would belong to both clans. One generation later, X and Y would marry someone from the W and Z clans. See where this goes? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:58, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Both the official translation and the fan translation seem to be adding words to Kurama's statement:
:I really don't think it will help any more to explain how clans work. So i'll just say that I'm not for listing Minato as an Uzumaki. That bit's negligible at best, simply micro nitpicking.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:27, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:初代柱間以来の忍か...... こんな奴がまだ...!
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:''A ninja since the first Hashirama... This guy is still...!''
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Admittedly I don't know Japanese, but Kurama seems to only be saying (thinking) half of a sentence. Obviously it's a reaction to Minato strengthening the seal but... nobody since Hashirama has been able to seal the Nine-Tails? improve the seal? I can't see how anyone is supposed to get anything from the sentence. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 05:00, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
   
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Interesting, so in context Minato is trying to strengthen the tetragam seal using his own sealing jutsu knowledge and skill and Kurama says that. It further supports what I was saying. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 08:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Apprently you people have no idea of Japanese culture and clans.[[User:Csfranklin|Csfranklin]] ([[User talk:Csfranklin|talk]]) 23:32, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Coming back to this, why is that bit about comparing his power to Hashirama's still there? That was an english translation error. His power was never once compared to Hashirama's in the actual translations. At the very least if there is going to be favoritism for this character have the decency to mention in a trivia section that Minato's power was never compared to Hashirama's in the original text nor proper translations. [[User:BloodOfTheArchon|BloodOfTheArchon]] ([[User talk:BloodOfTheArchon|talk]]) 20:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
That would be you. The whole "who belongs to what clan" was explained to us by someone who actually speaks Japanese and has studied Japanese culture, ShounenSuki, who most unfortunately isn't active any more. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:16, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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== Adding the sealing jutsu to his jutsu list? ==
Didn't Madara call Tsuande a weak senju woman or something during their fight? That is the only time I remember her bring referenced to the clan.[[User:Umishiru|Umishiru]] ([[User talk:Umishiru|talk]]) 08:40, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Minato used a sealing jutsu in his one-shot chapter. Shouldn't that seal be added to his Jutsu list? {{unsigned|Rex-05}}
He says something akin to weak Senju being ugly, Senju women even uglier if I remember correctly--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 10:58, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:Not really. What he did was hold up the seal already there in his own style, not an actual new seal. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 10:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
   
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the seal he used to save Kushina is different than the one that she had. The one Kushina had has this "moon-like" thing and chains around Kurama. They are clearly different... {{unsigned|Rex-05}}
How can minato and his preceedors be revived even though they have been consumed by the death god in the manga.
 
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:Nope. The thing extending from the central spiral isn't a different seal, that has always appeared whenever we saw the seal becoming visible with Naruto, that is part of the Four Symbols Seal. The only new seal actually featured in the oneshot is the combo of the spiral inside Kushina's residence and the wider barrier outside. They very much feel like a variation of using two Four Symbols Seals to make an Eight Trigrams Sealing Style. Also, sign your comments from now on, just put four tildes at the end. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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Image of him stopping Kakashi from killing Obito

Can somebody please put that image into his "Return of Madara Arc" section? I'm not good with manga images...Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 17:27, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Bump.Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 15:40, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
Nobody?Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 10:41, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

If you where to give me the page and chapter I would be glad to help out and get the picture.First Bodygurad and Protege (talk) 02:14, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

His age has been narrowed down.

Minato's age can now be guessed at better, jiraiya trained minato starting from him being ten, that was right after jiraya left the ame orphans, and we know now that yahiko was 20yrs at death, so that means that Minato was either 17 or 20 when he became Hokage, meaning he was either 18 or 21 when he died. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 07:13, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Ok so I did the math and what not, Nagato was born in september, minato in january i believe, so it was 4 month after leaving amegakure that Jiraiya became Minato's sensei, Minato was 3 years younger than the Ame Orhpans and Yahiko died at age 20 in the same year Minato became a Kage, meaning Minato became a Hokage around december 10th when he was 17, january 25th he was 18 and about 9 months later he died at 18, on October 10th. That makes him the youngest Hokage ever. Gaara still has the title of youngest Kage ever I believe. But that means he was Team Minato's sensei at the age of 13, and I believe it as Itachi was 170cm tall, very mature and already a Anbu Captain at the age of 13. So Minato was already a Jonin at 13 almost 14, which means he became a Chunin and then Jonin within him being 10-13yrs old. Jiraiya already stated he was so much of a prodigy and Ei stated nobody could beat him pretty much So I believe it 100% ItachiWasAHero (talk) 08:02, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

At this point, if it's not something as simple as B and Motoi's age, I no longer bother with doing the math. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:35, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Ok so seelentau retranslated Yahiko's age from pierrot, it says seinen which means 18-30 so the age should be put back to 25-30. That means Minato became a kage at 22 not 17 and died at 24...

Sensor for 1000th time

Are we sure to be sure this time for sure? Wasn't that because of QB or something? I guess he may be a sensor then, but not a good one, nowhere near Karin or Tobirama's level--Elveonora (talk) 11:52, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

His "I can tell the enemy's presence by laying a finger on the ground" would have been enough for me to list him a long time ago. I mean, the exact same thing is mentioned on Tobirama's page as well. And yes, Minato realised that Naruto's Kurama-half was extracted before his own half confirmed it. I vote for listing him as a sensor. Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 12:05, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
Hm, I thought him having sensory abilities was confirmed a while ago. He just seems to only use them consciously, not sensing all the time like those who are "primarily" sensors, meaning he probably learned the skill instead of having it from birth. --kiadony --talk to me-- 12:12, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
Tobirama was shown not to sense all the time either, he has to "use" sensing to sense.--Elveonora (talk) 12:23, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

That too. He mentioned that he has to "knead chakra" to sense. I don't think Kishimoto ever made it completely clear about all that passive/active sensing skills but we did assume that some are naturally sensitive and some are trained. Tobirama might be a very skilled sensor but not a natural one, while Karin and Yamanaka people have that affinity/ability from birth. I'm pretty sure that they ("natural" sensors) can't sense if they somehow suppress or disrupt their chakra flow (like Karin did during the Summit) but do they need to use a specific technique, "turn on" their ability every time? It's still unclear if I understand correctly. --kiadony --talk to me-- 13:00, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

sage mode

in the latest chapter 655 Minato had the same eyes as Naruto in sage mode. --Tchad1 (talk) 08:29, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

We know, it is already in the article. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 08:45, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

No, we've jumped to conclusions way too quickly. He said Senjutsu, not Sage Mode, he's most probably utilising it in the same way as Orochimaru. Pesa123456789 (talk) 14:54, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Senjutsu = Sage Mode. He even has toad eyes and pigmentation--Elveonora (talk) 15:02, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

And as soon as he used Rasengan, it was gone. He augmented his ninjutsu with senjutsu, with the markings being a sign of mixing natural energy and normal chakra. Pesa123456789 (talk) 15:50, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

As Fukasaku stated, those markings are the proof that the user has become a true Sage. Therefore, Minato did enter Sage Mode.--JOA20 (talk) 16:47, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

Fastest in history

Two things bother me about this: 1. When was he actually said to be the fastest, dont get me wrong I know he's fast but as far as I know it was never said he was the fastest just faster than A and by extension the Third Raikage.

2. Maybe this is the wrong place to talk about it but still: Wouldn't the fact that he was acknowledged as the fastest if not, one of the fastest add to the need for "the fastest shinobi" as a title. Tobirama, Third Raikage, Minato, and A have all been said to be the fastest. Now obviously we may never know who is the fastest among them but it is a possibility that the title is a generational thing like the "God of Shinobi" title seems to be. --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 23:09, March 3, 2014 (UTC)

correct me if I'm wrong

But he was blasted to nothingness with Madara's orbs, wasn't he?--Elveonora (talk) 14:04, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Possible. He could also just have several ball shaped holes in his back, considering his head survived I wouldn't say he's dead (dead-er) yet. And that implies the Balls were set to "Ninjutsu Off" mode when he threw them at Guy.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 14:09, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
Dunno, chapter 669 makes it look like he is a goner, he crumbled away--Elveonora (talk) 14:37, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
The article reads as if he ported himself out. The lines that typically indicate super fast moment was used. But who knows. I doubt he's a goner, if for no reason other than story element, because we just had a heartfelt moment for Guy, then they just kill(er) Minato and nobody bats an eyelash.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 14:42, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHMcoG_FmTw I'm sure he is dead-dead, only his bottom half can be seen on the next panel and it's crumbling too. Same case as Killer B, people refuse to acknowledge that someone has died unless Kishi sits on their laps and screams so into their ears.--Elveonora (talk) 14:58, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
I can't see anything crumbling to be honest. Are you talking about him vanishing after being hit by the Truth-Seeking Balls? Noweeaboohoo (talk) 15:12, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

When only his bottom part can be seen left, his feet is also crumbling--Elveonora (talk) 15:26, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

...That wasn't Minato's lower half. That was Guy's >_> Unless, of course, I'm looking in the wrong place. But in 669, after Minato "vanishes", he isn't seen again that chapter. That shot where you just see someone's lower half... is Guy divebombing Madara. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 16:14, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
Why was he drawn with no feet then? :P--Elveonora (talk) 09:51, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
Elve, look at it. Its Guy. You can see him divebombing Madara. He's wearing a flack jacket and no Hokage cape. Minato isn't seen again in that chapter. At all. He jumps immediately after being struck. Not to mention, Minato's feet didn't get hit by the TSB, his upper back did. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 02:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

I guess you are right. Minato may be anywhere or nowhere at the moment :P Although unless he was in Sage Mode while hit, he shouldn't have "survived" the orbs, so I don't hope for better.--Elveonora (talk) 11:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

A's comments

Why can't they be added to the introduction area of the abilities section? Its not in reference to his speed, its in reference to his power. A flat out said he thought Minato couldn't be surpassed after several fights against him during the Third Shinobi World War. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 17:50, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

Have you read the second sentence of that section? ~SnapperTo 18:37, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

FTG's speed

I wonder if it can be added to his S/T section that in the anime his FTG was shown to be faster than Tobirama's. When the Hokage teleported to their Monument faces so to speak, Tobirama and Hashirama teleported first, and then Minato and Hiruzen. However, Minato arrived first because of his FTG being faster. That was shown in the manga as well, but perhaps not as clearly as in the Anime.

I also think his feet of teleporting to the Kunai that Lee threw in front of Guy, and then teleported away before Guy in his 8th Gate stage could even move is a noteworthy and an important feet to show his speed.Rex-05 (talk) 16:17, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

How can something that's instantaneous be faster than... instantaneous?--Elveonora (talk) 16:26, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

it's fiction. Every thing is possible, and that's what was shown in the Anime regardless. Even in the manga Tobirama stated that the clones' usage of the FTG is slower, he did not ask your question about how instantaneous be faster, did he? And Minato agreed with him as well, no? Rex-05 (talk) 16:58, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Shurikenjutsu

Does it worth to mention that Tobirama stated that Minato is fast as striking too? http://im61.gulfup.com/OAXUQ5.jpgRex-05 (talk) 19:06, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Picture change?

I found a "really good image" of him on the very bottom right slide of Pg 16 of chapter 122, Sasuke427 (talk) 06:55, August 23, 2014 (UTC)

No. We only use manga images when the anime version (or colored manga) isn't available. The wiki prefers colored images rather than black and white. The current image is fine. WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task (Talk) (Contributions) 06:59, August 23, 2014 (UTC)

Image

Can we change Minato's info box image to this? The current one doesn't show off Minato's trademark bright yellow hair unlike the image im suggesting and visually, it shows more of his spikey hair on the top of his head. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:06, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me. --Sajuuk [Mod] Talk Page | Contribs | Channel 08:08, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Uzumaki Clan

I know I put this topic up a while back but if Minato doesn't belong into a clan then wouldn't that make him marrying into the Uzumaki clan?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 22:45, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

No, because:
  1. There's no Uzumaki Clan anymore, it was destroyed.
  2. Women marry into a clan/take their husband's surname, not the other way around.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 23:06, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Info

I don't know where to put this honestly, but is it me, or his page lost tons of the context it had before?

Minato's enemies

Did the manga ever mention, who these ominous enemies of Minato were Naruto was to be kept safe from? --Boris Baran (talk) 23:45, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Nope, they were never mentioned, but it can probably be assumed to be any shinobi he fought when he lived... --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 23:46, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Debut

The manga only mentioned Minato in chapter one. Shouldn't we change it to the chapter he actually debuted?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 19:14, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

I agree. ~SnapperTo 17:54, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong...

...but wasn't the Flying Thunder God Technique explicitly made part of Minato's speed, which is why he got the reputation. In that case, his speed with it shouldn't be taken out and his feats of avoiding the Lightning Straight or outpacing the Eight Gates Released Formation shouldn't be deleted from his article.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:01, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

He got his reputation from both. The info your added should be placed in his space–time ninjutsu section. Minato's natural speed and his FTG are two different things.--Kuroiraikou (talk) 19:55, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
I'll add that his space-time ninjutsu section already says he can teleport somewhere instantly with FTG. I do not believe "instantly" needs to be further defined in terms of what jutsu are slower than it. ~SnapperTo 20:04, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Anime Debut

I've been thinking. Minato only appeared as a silhouette is episode 1. If that were to be the case would his actual debut be when Hiruzen battled Orochimaru? Or Shippuden adapation of Kakashi Gaiden?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 18:05, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can someone reply to this thread and tell me if my point was good or not?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 20:39, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Image needs changing again

I must say that the current image being used for minatos profile is absolutely terrible. That particular episode had poor animation, and you can see it in minatos face. The drawing looks really cheap, especially the hair, it doesn't even flow like natural hair, it looks extra spiky when it's not like that. I suggest this image [1] in the link below as his main wiki profile image. You can see the animation looks very good and clean and nicely shows all his facial features. This one actually looks like minato namikaze drawn by Kishimoto, compared to that cheap one currently displayed on the page. --Madez (talk) 17:38, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Don't agree for any picture change, it represents him just fine, maybe you should read up the character appearance section. Just because you think that episode had poor animation doesn't mean it didn't provide good screenshots for Minato. Plus, your suggested picture is uploaded to fanpop.com (lol) and contains a watermark, so it won't be used here anyway. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 20:13, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
Per Sajuuk. Nothing wrong with the current image at all. If the reasons you listed were taken into account for every potential image change, we'd have endless debates on which images should be discarded or used to portray each character. Just so long as it best depicts what's noted in the appearance section.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 21:08, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
I didn't mean to use that exact fanpop image, I was just suggesting an image similar to that. I took a couple screenshots of my own that look better and have no water marks, so before dismissing my suggestion, at least know I tried:
[2] (this one shows almost his entire head and top of his hair, unlike the others)
[3] (this one shows a bit less but looks bolder).
Either of the two I just posted, I believe would look a lot better and more suitable. They resemble the character more to the art style of the author, the animation used in this episode is considerably better and clearer compared to the current picture being used. Also they're actually images from canon episodes and not filler like the current one. If you guys honestly feel that the current one is better than these, then I'm sorry for wasting anyone's time. I just thought why not use an actual image that resembles the character instead of one that looks like fan art. Madez (talk) 02:53, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
The current image depicts the characters fine imo. The color of his hair in those images your suggesting are way to light. --Bio havik (talk) 04:14, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
Lol. The episode in question where the current image came from is not filler. This wiki does not make decisions of taking images only from canon episodes, we just use an image that best describes the character in question, regardless of where that comes from. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 08:34, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sons

Why didnt we add Menma Uzumaki as his Child with the movie only tag and Menma Namikaze as his child with anime only tag? The same with Kushinas infobox--Keeptfighting (talk) 08:36, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Other than "The Last" and "Boruto", movie stuff isn't canon, so it doesn't get listed in the infoboxes of manga and anime. The Menma from the anime technically doesn't exist. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:06, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
Ok, get it. Thanks--Keeptfighting (talk) 17:49, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Physical Prowess

Can we really say that was the Body Flicker? Kakashi had a Flying Thunder God Kunai on him, did he not?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 18:03, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yes it was body flicker. The kanji displayed on the page is the high speed movement symbol which is used for body flicker. The he teleported to the FTG kunai, it would have been said.Madez (talk) 11:13, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldnt the Body Flicker Technique be added to his jutsu list? Hear me out, minato was known for his speed which was in part because of his use of the flying thunder god technique but also because of his natural raw speed which came from his use of the body flicker technique. It was even stated in his physical prowess section so i don't understand why its not in his jutsu list. yes, i understand that when it comes to basic jutsu's which body flicker is its a common technique among ninja and isnt considered a special or unique skill of ninja. But theyre a exceptions, shisui who made a name for himself using the technique, which also applies to minato because as i stated earlier and also as its been stated on this site aswell, part of his fame because of the use of his speed partly stems from his use of this technique. thanks for listening, looking forward to your reply.Me1 (talk) 12:21, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Minato relies more on FTG than BFT. There's also the issue of the manga regularly misattributing actual spacetime ninjutsu feats to BFT when Minato is concerned. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:40, May 16, 2016 (UTC)


Sage Mode 2

Shouldn't Minato's article read 'haven't used it much in actual combat' rather than 'Never using it in battle' for his sage mode? I think the viz scan also said the same and the raw scans translated in the nf page also supported it. --Minatoblitz (talk) 05:36, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Timeline Inconsistency

Minato said he and A would someday meet at Kage, would that not mean Minato was chosen by Hiruzen to be the fourth hokage, but was simply not inaugurated yet?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 16:18, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Don't particularly recall the exact words, but I believe he said something like "we'll probably meet as Kage someday", as in "we're both strong shinobi, and likely to become Kage". Like I said, specific wording could paint a different picture. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:30, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
No inconsistency there. I suppose it could be compared to Danzo. Plus, there was the third war going on, so the situation might be a little more difficult. • Seelentau 愛 18:59, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Misconception being inserted into page

The new Gaiden has a scene where the Uzumaki are being talked about, and Minato is trying to add to Kushina's Jinchuriki seal to keep Kurama from coming free. Kurama compares that prowess to Hashirama so in context he is referring to sealing jutsu prowess but some fans are on here adding that it means Minato is the same calibre as Hashirama which it doesn't. If we insert that then we have to insert on Itachi's page how Hashirama himself says Itachi is a better Shinobi than he is and we both know how that will go. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 01:00, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

I made the addition. There is a difference between Itachi's comparison to Hashirama and Minato's. Hashirama was talking more about Itachi's resolve. But, I will concede that maybe only Minato's fuinjutsu was the subject.Steveo920 (talk) 05:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

I noticed, it wouldn't make sense that Minato's power was being compared to Hashirama anyway especially when you consider that he and his team got whooped earlier by Han and Roshi and all of them including Jiraiya were beat up so Minato had to use FTG for them all to escape when if that was Hashirama he would have beaten both of them with ease. He also goes on to say Kushina is stronger than he is. That SuperSaiyanMan person is edit warring over this. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 19:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

According to different translations, Kurama said "A most powerful Shinobi ranking alongside First Hokage Hashirana, unbelievable" or "A Shinobi of the caliber of the first Hokage Hashirama... there are others like him still around"? instead of writing that Kurama compared Minato's sealing abilities to Hashirama, when he never explicitly said "his sealing abilities are like those of Hashirama's", Kurama's statement should be left as stated in the manga, and leave the interpretation of its meaning to the reader...

If we're going to talk about interpretation in this case, then this applies to other pages too, which means I have an edit to go do. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 01:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

    • There is no 'open up to interpretation here'. Kurama explicitly compared Minato's power to Hashirama's. This is different than Hashirama comparing Itachi to himself as a ninja since it wasn't about power he was talking about there. We had an explicit statement of power between two individuals and Minato's power was even shown when his Rasengan stalemated Kurama's Bijudama. You're just trying to make excuses to make fanboyesque edits to pages you like.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect, Kurama talked about the Uzumaki and the seal and in context with him saying "he's not even Uzumaki" then making the comparison we can see that he was referring to Minato's sealing jutus prowess, especially considering it was Hashirama who sealed Kurama into Mito. But since this is supposed to be left up to interpretation then that's how it will be and you are the one doing fanboyesque nonsense and edit warring, removing that line from Itachi's page and being a hypocrite. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 01:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

  • He only mentioned the statement about Minato's power and prowess AFTER seeing the seal. He explicitly said through multiple translations that Minato was as strong or of the same calibre as Hashirama. You're downplaying it or trying to make edits to Itachi's page (or others) to boost them since you have a little bit of a agenda. Hashirama laughed and joked Itachi was a better ninja than him SINE HE HAD THE RESOLVE TO KILL HIS OWN FAMILY FOR THE VILLAGE. He didn't say Itachi was on his level of power or that he was as strong as him. You leave out the context. And its not even the same thing with Minato here since Kurama explicitly calls Minato as strong or of the same caliber as Hashirama. So you're not only wrong you are pushing your agenda.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


Gaiden page 30 Kurama notices a sealing jutsu being used "Sealing Jutsu?! By Whom?!" Gaiden page 31, Kurama says "The Brat... he's not even of the Uzumaki Clan and yet... ... He's augmenting the Tetragram Seal in his own Style! A most powerful Shinobi ranking alongside First Hokage Hashirama... Unbelievable!" "Why is a SHINOBI... of your caliber fussing over this lass?!" Minato responds with "I like strong people... people STRONGER than me!"

Going by this, Kushina is stronger than Minato according to Minato, going by this Kurama is referring to his sealing capabilities. But again we are to be leaving it to fan interpretation which means you need to stop edit warring on Itachi's page. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 01:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

  • !. You are not a mod, the only one having an issue with the edits here is you. You're trying to make it seem like an issue when its not. Seeing such a complex sealing jutsu surprised Kurama and then he explicitly says Minato is as strong as Hashirama. There's no 'interpretation' there, its flat out fact.
  • 2. You're adding things to the power and abilities portion of Itachi's article which not only don't fit, it is out of context so you can justify pushing Itachi on a level he's not.

^ 3. Minato thinks Kushina is stronger than him based on the context of her having to deal with Kurama ll the time yet have not given into despair or lost hope. And not only that its because he loves her. Could Kushina be stronger? Maybe, we don't have the feats or other statements but the context is different than what you're trying to put in.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Fan interpretation, that's what you are missing here. Hashirama said that Itachi is a better Shinobi than he is. You don't like that? That's too bad, we are to leave it up to fan interpretation. Being a better Shinobi, or the same calibre of Shinobi are both in the same vein. Stop edit warring. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 01:56, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Its not 'fan interpretation'. Hashirama's statement was after he heard Itachi had killed his own Clan, his own Family for the sake of Konoha. With no knowledge of Itachi's abilities at all. Saying he is a 'better shinobi' means he could follow through with his orders and burden the hatred of the world better than Hashirama could. You're making the interpretation when its about power. when it was explicitly put about his character, not his abilities. Again, you're trying to use this to justify fanboyesque edits while taking this out of context again. You remind me of the Itachi fanboys that used to be on this site and tried to make him the strongest character of the verse years ago despite their edits not being true in the slightest.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:01, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Your ad hominems don't help you. Minato was using a sealing jutsu to try and strengthen her seal. That was literally it. There was nothing else Kurama could have been comparing it to in context so obviously it was referring to Sealing Jutsu prowess in context. But since you want it to be as if Minato is Hashirama's level despite him getting folded by Roshi and Han and having to retreat along with Jiraiya when we all know Hashirama would have folded both of them on his own with no help then you can leave that up there, but stop edit warring on the Itachi page. Leave the words up to fan interpretation. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:04, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The statement isn't up for interpretation at all. He said Minato's caliber was the same as Hashirama's and he was amazed a shinobi this strong was still alive. Especially seeing how complex the sealing jutsu that Minato made. Minato wasn't fighting Roshi and Han, he was getting his allies out of there since they were vulnerable. And then we have Minato later, after perfecting the Rasengan? Matching Kurama's Bijudama with it. Making Kurama's statement have more weight than just his sealing prowess.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Rasengan is made to match the Bijuu Dama, we see that happen and then a bright light and Minato wakes up in the hospital so again that's your interpretation. You are adding your own interpretations here as fact but get upset when others do so in other pages, all the while adding in ad hominems and edit warring. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:10, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm not adding my own interpretations. I'm putting in facts. This is what happened. YOU are making interpretations to justify things. SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Hashirama literally says "A Shinobi even greater than I!" when referring to Itachi. That's the line, that's the statement. It's just fine in the abilities section, you just don't want it there due to YOUR interpretation. Leave it to fan interpretation and stop edit warring. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

And that statement is because Itachi was able to shoulder the hatred of the village on him for killing the Uchiha even though he was saving it. That's why Hashirama called him a better shinobi since he was willing to take that burden. You wonder why it was never added to Itachi's ability section before, that's why. Since the context made it not a power statement, but a personality trait that Itachi had. This was attempted to be added in the past but ruled it wasn't a power statement in the slightest especially since Hashirama had no context of Itachi's skills or powers. We have Kurama, who fought Hashirama, make a direct comparisonto Minato's power being of the same level or at it to Hashirama, that's different since he has the context and knowledge of both character's abilities. And Minato later would show, with a BASIC RASENGAN, to match Kurama's own Bijudama which is unprecedented. You're comparing apples to oranges, these two statements are not the same and should not be considered the same. Do you understand now.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The lines before that were "at all of seven years of age, he thoguht quite like a hokage... we left everything to Itachi, in his hands alone... and he executed his missions perfectly. He slaughtered all of his brethren, stopped a revolt... prevented a coming war all by himself... he even infiltrated the Akatsuki as a spy to protect the village. On the condition that I protect YOU within the village." Hashirama says about this "Well then... Sasuke, you had a good older brother... a Shinobi even greater than I." Itachi's abilities are clearly being mentioned as well just not in a direct comparison a this point, afterwards Hashirama plainly states "A Shinobi even greater than I." So this can be left to fan interpretation and left in. YOU are the one who wants to put your own interpretation in instead of leaving it plain. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

YOu put in the context and completely ignore it. None of what Hashirama said after learning that is of a power statement. Its of a character statement. You're again, comparing apples to oranges to justify what you're calling me out for: fan interpretation. I even told you the reason why it wasn't included, why it was put in there in the past but was decided to not be a statement of Itachi's power. Seriously, if you want to add that put that in the right section. It doesn't belong in abilities and you know, deep down, that it doesn't. Please, this is getting ridiculous and getting us nowhere since you're refusing to see any side of the argument but your own.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:36, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

No, you are the one acting as if it can't be in both sections. It can be about power and character, it's about fan interpretation. You just don't WANT it in the abilities section and are adding your own definition to it. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:38, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Except it can't man. You put in the context, it has nothing to do with power in the statement especially since Hashirama is in the dark about Itachi's abilities. Seriously its like i'm talking to a brick wall here.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

"Slaughtered the Uchiha clan, thought like a Hokage at age 7, executed his missions flawlessly, stopped a rebellion, stopped a coming war, did it all on his own." These are some of what Hashirama has heard. He is clearly speaking of his abilities as well at this point. Again, leave it to fan interpretation. It can be in both. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

No, you're reaching. Many of those weren't his power or skill that Itachi did either. Why do you think this is about power when it was ruled in the past it wasn't?SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
But whatever, I'm done.SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Kurama's lines about Minato were in reaction to his sealing jutsu usage in trying to strengthen and alter the Tetragam Seal and him not being an Uzumaki yet still able to do so, which implies it is directly about his sealing jutsu prowess and comparing that to Hashirama since Hashirama was the one who sealed Kurama into Mito.. but YOUR interpretation is that somehow makes Minato the same level in general/overall as Hashirama when it was never referring to chakra levels, power, speed, raw strength, or anything else. Just Sealing Jutsu Skill/knowledge. So again, leave it all to fan interpretation and stop inserting your own interpretation and edit warring. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:54, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Both the official translation and the fan translation seem to be adding words to Kurama's statement:

初代柱間以来の忍か...... こんな奴がまだ...!
A ninja since the first Hashirama... This guy is still...!

Admittedly I don't know Japanese, but Kurama seems to only be saying (thinking) half of a sentence. Obviously it's a reaction to Minato strengthening the seal but... nobody since Hashirama has been able to seal the Nine-Tails? improve the seal? I can't see how anyone is supposed to get anything from the sentence. ~SnapperTo 05:00, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Interesting, so in context Minato is trying to strengthen the tetragam seal using his own sealing jutsu knowledge and skill and Kurama says that. It further supports what I was saying. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 08:06, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Coming back to this, why is that bit about comparing his power to Hashirama's still there? That was an english translation error. His power was never once compared to Hashirama's in the actual translations. At the very least if there is going to be favoritism for this character have the decency to mention in a trivia section that Minato's power was never compared to Hashirama's in the original text nor proper translations. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 20:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding the sealing jutsu to his jutsu list?

Minato used a sealing jutsu in his one-shot chapter. Shouldn't that seal be added to his Jutsu list? —This unsigned comment was made by Rex-05 (talkcontribs) .

Not really. What he did was hold up the seal already there in his own style, not an actual new seal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

the seal he used to save Kushina is different than the one that she had. The one Kushina had has this "moon-like" thing and chains around Kurama. They are clearly different... —This unsigned comment was made by Rex-05 (talkcontribs) .

Nope. The thing extending from the central spiral isn't a different seal, that has always appeared whenever we saw the seal becoming visible with Naruto, that is part of the Four Symbols Seal. The only new seal actually featured in the oneshot is the combo of the spiral inside Kushina's residence and the wider barrier outside. They very much feel like a variation of using two Four Symbols Seals to make an Eight Trigrams Sealing Style. Also, sign your comments from now on, just put four tildes at the end. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)