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:::yeah they do have a hand in deciding. But she could just as easily been up there as a wife. I'm not disputing her tank, I just mean that's not enough to go off.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:25, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::yeah they do have a hand in deciding. But she could just as easily been up there as a wife. I'm not disputing her tank, I just mean that's not enough to go off.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:25, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::I thought it was Shikaku who gave his opinion on behalf of all the Jōnin? Kushina standing there is not enough proof, I think. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:30, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::I thought it was Shikaku who gave his opinion on behalf of all the Jōnin? Kushina standing there is not enough proof, I think. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:30, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
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The closest thing I think we can have on her rank is that she's at least a chūnin, given she has a flak jacket, but that leaves it open if she's anything higher than genin or lower than Kage. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:31, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

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Possibile misconception about the death cause

"The vitality inherent to the Uzumaki clan allowed her to survive the extraction, though greatly weakened by experience"/"Despite knowing the trauma would kill her in her current state, Kushina volunteered to have the Nine-Tails sealed back into her body so that it would die with her"

I think that the sentences that I reported over could be misconceptions: the last chapter seem to indicate that the extraction of a bijuu from a Jinchuuriki member of the Uzumaki clan guarantee to him/her only a temporary resistance, but inevitably leads to the death. So we should think that Kushina wasn't simply greatly weakened after the extraction; more she offered to Minato to seal the Kyuubi again in her for dying with the bijuu, just because she knew that her ultimate fate it was anyway the death sooner or later (and so not because the trauma would have killed her). The acts of Minato during the sealing of Kurama in Naruto are always appeared to me more logical thinking that Kushina was fated to die in any way, and so also Kushina's ones considering that the son had already lost a maternal figure (personally I think that this is evident also from the faces that Minato did while leave Kushina together with Naruto in their house, just like if this was a possibility for Kushina to pass her last instants together with his son, but this is only speculation so can't be considered a proof for it).--JK88 (talk) 10:18, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

None of that is wrong though, or at least not completely. Kushina did in fact survive the extraction, if only temporary. So if the trauma of the sealing wasn't going to kill her the extraction was. Then you started going off into a maternal figure tangent or something and I have no idea whats going on.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:54, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
I was generic because I didn't want overcomplicate the post, I simply meant that in the end of her flashback Kushina talked to Minato like if she was already fated to die: when she disagree with Minato thinking that the idea to make of Naruto a jinchuuriki it's overall for giving her a possibility to meet the son for a few time in future (through the sealing of her chakra part), basically she is implying that also with Minato deciding to not seal again the fox in her (and so not giving her any trauma), she wouldn't have anyway possibility to continue to live together with Naruto.
My problem wasn't on the falisty of the statements, rather on the fact that IMO they give the wrong idea that Kushina (and consequently the Uzumaki clan) is able to survive also to a bijuu extraction, when in this chapter the Zetsu explicitely pointed up how neither being part of this clan make an exception to the rule. However I was also thinking that would be better to wait until new developments for making -eventual- fixes to the page: I think that in the end Naruto could survive just thanks to the sealing of the Yin Kurama part in him, so it's possible that the story could reveal new hidden elements about the working of the Jinchuuriki process (i.e. the possibility to survive with a particular restore of the Bijuu chakra for Naruto, on the opposite of Kushina' situation)--JK88 (talk) 12:18, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Infobox pic

I think we should have a pic of her in her ninja uniform, if anyone agrees please contribute to the discussion. Munchvtec 17:08, January 27, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Where?! In the Road to Ninja movie? Because in the manga (and in the anime) she didn't wear any ninja uniform. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 17:41, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Would really only be used in the movie section. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:39, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

I personally thinks she looks better that way but if you guys say no then all well its no. Munchvtec 12:59, January 28, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

rank

Latest filler confirms she was a Jounin I believe--Elveonora (talk) 15:02, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

How? Seelentau 愛 15:04, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
I think that Jonin council also takes part in naming the next Hokage, just like danzo needed Jonin approval to officially become Hokage.--Omojuze (talk) 15:10, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
yeah they do have a hand in deciding. But she could just as easily been up there as a wife. I'm not disputing her tank, I just mean that's not enough to go off.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 15:25, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
I thought it was Shikaku who gave his opinion on behalf of all the Jōnin? Kushina standing there is not enough proof, I think. Seelentau 愛 15:30, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

The closest thing I think we can have on her rank is that she's at least a chūnin, given she has a flak jacket, but that leaves it open if she's anything higher than genin or lower than Kage. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:31, February 6, 2014 (UTC)