Chakra, Round 2

Hi! I saw the lively discussion in the archive and would like to re-found it since I don't think it was discussed enough. That one guy was acting like an idiot but he has a clear point I think. Kurotsuchi puts more efforts in her attacks, so her chakra level must be noted as higher than average. (talk) 20:43, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

It's called perspective, full stop. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:26, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yin Release

Quote (Novel) Boruto-Naruto the Movie [1] : “We’re all ready and willing, huh.” Kurotsuchi said, her voluptuous lips curving into a smile. She was the only kunoichi amongst the Gokage, and the most diligent Genjutsu user among them.--Sharingan91 (talk) 10:48, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe put it as "Yin Release(Novel Only)"?--JouXIII (talk) 11:15, September 15, 2015 (UTC)
Added it and does that mean all of them use genjutsu?. --Bio havik (talk) 10:57, September 15, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, add it like that. And no, it means that among those of the Kage who can use genjutsu, she's the best. That doesn't mean that all Kage can use genjutsu. • Seelentau 愛 11:46, September 15, 2015 (UTC)


so...can someone explain to me why Kurotsuchi is considered part of the Kamizuru clan? --Rui Usagi (talk) 03:51, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

In the anime, the first Tsuchikage was said to be a member, and he is the great great grandfater of Kurotsuchi. "Unlimited Ben Works." (talk) 05:14, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
But is it really our place to try connecting old Part 1 filler from over a decade ago to manga information when the current anime completely disregards it? Besides, even if we do accept Ishikawa that is a Kamizuru, it's entirely possible his child married into a different clan, which would mean Ōnoki and Kurotsuchi aren't. I think the whole Kamizuru clan thing would be better suited as a trivia point and left out of the infoboxes.--BeyondRed (talk) 07:13, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
BeyondRed, there is no source in the manga that can contradict what the anime said, so what the anime said is considered to be valid and the manga made no attempt to contradict it. If the manga had given us information that would have contradicted the anime, the information would have been changed a long time ago. See A-canon on the canon policy. --Sajuuk 09:06, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
Not saying it should be removed from the First's page, since it was stated in official media, but there's (obviously) nothing saying or implying that Ōnoki and Kurotsuchi are Kamizuru members. We don't list Kitsuchi as Ōnoki's son because it's implied but not one hundred percent confirmed, and it's possible his "Tsuchikage blood" comes from Mū. In the same vein, it's possible Ishikawa had a daughter that married into a different clan, which would mean Ōnoki and his descendants aren't Kamizuru. The same is possible for Ōnoki's child if it isn't Kitsuchi, which would exclude Kurotsuchi.--BeyondRed (talk) 11:20, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
Again, no other source can say that the anime was wrong. I don't have the episodes on hand to watch back the bikochu arc again, but as far as I can recall, the enemy heavily implied all Tsuchikage were a member of the Kamizuru clan and hence why Kurotsuchi is considered a member (she is the daughter of Onoki, who is the descendent of the previous Tsuchikage). Unless you can provide a source that directly tells us that Onoki (and his children) aren't members of the Kamizuru clan, then the information stays as is. --Sajuuk 11:25, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
Based on what is currently listed in the related articles, the three filler villains from that arc were grandchildren of the First Tsuchikage, and he was a member of the clan. So, his descendants would naturally belong to this clan, barring stuff like a descendant marrying into another clan, a la Tsunade not being an Uzumaki, Boruto and Himawari not being Hyūga. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:27, August 20, 2016 (UTC)