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Oyone and Kumadori in the picture or not

Are they in this picture or not - File:Oyone and Kumadori.PNG. About them it says Debut manga 420 - there no other people that can be them except those two on the picture. If that is not them then this is not their debut. You just saw their names on the screen and you think this is there debut? This is wrong. So if that are not them then remove the debut, because seeing their names on a screen is not a debut.--Donatelo (talk) 22:02, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

That is Shizune and someone else. They both appear in 406, but one can be seen better than the other. ~SnapperTo 23:42, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

We'd have to assume that Oyone was female (seeing that female names tend to end with an "e") but that's still too speculative Cerez365 (talk) 18:03, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Name

Where Oyone and Kumadori's names were given?--LeafShinobi (talk) 19:24, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter 406, page 4. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 19:38, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

image split

since we know who is who now, can the images be split? Munchvtec (talk) 13:14, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

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