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== Merger? ==
 
   
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== Naruto blood prison ==
Merge with [[List of Kekkei Genkai]]? --'''[[User:Kakashi Namikaze|Kakashi Namikaze]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Kakashi Namikaze|Talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Kakashi Namikaze|Contribs]]</sup> 17:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 
   
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I was wondering why the kekkei genkai of the girl ryuuzetsu from Naruto blood prison which enabled her to transfer life is not listed here whilst other movie only kekkei genkai (like steel release and dark release)--{{unsigned|82.145.209.161}}
==Divide up the page==
 
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:It's either a glitch or because of the fact that her kekkei gankai was never named so there's no article for it except [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
I think this page should be made into three lists. One should be a list of elemental kekkei genkai (water + wind = ice), one would be for just dojutsu, and the third would be for everything else. Thoughts?
 
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::In that case would it be a possible solution for you to do what you did with Sakon and Ukon's unnamed kekkei genkai whereby you stated that it was unnamed then linked it to its related jutsu, in this case linking it to the [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]].--{{unsigned|82.145.209.161}}
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:::But everything that is known about the kekkei genkai is already on that jutsu page. It'd just be a one-line duplicate. Also please remember to sign your posts using four tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki> or the [http://slot1.images.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb54126/common/skins/common/images/button_sig.png signature button].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:29, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
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::I apologize if I'm too late to respond, but could I please make a suggestion? How about going to the Trivia section and adding an item saying, "Ryuuzetsu from Naruto 5:Blood Prison has a kekkei genkai, but nothing is known about it other than it allows her to perform the [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]] jutsu"? Doing that would include all known KG without the need to create a one-line duplicate article. If that's okay with everyone, then I or someone else could go ahead and do that. [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 22:16, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Under normal circumstances, that's what would be done, but this isn't a normal page. It automatically collects pieces of the articles which are tagged as kekkei genkai, so we don't have to keep writing the same thing over and over in more than one page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:24, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
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::Hmm. Well, I'll leave the decision on how to handle this to those who know what they're doing (because everyone knows how clueless I am ~winks~), but I think a solution is needed because until it's included, the article isn't complete. Is there a way to have a separate section listing KG we know almost nothing about, like how the Shuriken article has a listof shuriken launchers even though none of those has a separate article? [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 12:31, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
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::On second thought, may I please create an article about it? I promise to make it more than one sentence, and if you don't like it, you can make whatever changes you wish to it. [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 15:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
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um actually why aint this listed when malices is, and it is literally a copy. it that one is listed, list this one too only fair and both have the same amount of detail.--[[Special:Contributions/208.124.127.88|208.124.127.88]] ([[User talk:208.124.127.88|talk]]) 00:31, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:I went ahead and made an article. Big thanks to Cerez365 for the help. I'm still a mere genin. [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 14:04, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
   
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== Question ==
--[[User:Smmalis37|Smmalis37]] ([[User talk:Smmalis37|talk]]) 13:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 
:Maybe, I'm imagining additional description for each type, too.--[[User:GoDai|GoDai]] ([[User talk:GoDai|talk]]) 05:11, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Future Telling should not be quoted here? [[Special:Contributions/198.144.105.236|198.144.105.236]] ([[User talk:198.144.105.236|talk]]) 00:03, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
==Others?==
 
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:Dōjutsu, may not be a keeki genkai.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:21, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
Um, what about Shikamaru and Ino, they have kekkei genkai's. No body is able to do what they do, but the Akimichi just specialize in their attacks, others can learn their technique of human boulder and partial expansion. Remember almost every kekkei genkai starts with ninja art, like Shikamaru and Ino. Also, wouldn't the fourth Hokage fall into kekkei genkai, his teleportation technique belongs solely to him and could be passed to Naruto. Only his chakra could work with the seal, father and son chakra are same DNA.
 
:Shikamaru & Inos special techniques are clan related, just like Akimichis human boulder. Ninja art dosen't mean that something is genetic. And fouths teleportation technique was something he created himself with special seals. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 
::Those would be Jutsu, they are clan related, but they are not blood related, which Kekkei Genkai are. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup><nowiki/> <small>[[Forum:Javascript addtions to searchbox|current discussion]]</small> <small>Aug 13, 2008 <sub>@</sub> 17:43 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
   
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==categories, implantation KG inheriting and Dual KG==
==Chakra Vampire Bloodline?==
 
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Whit some analyse yo can divids KG in 3 categories, doujuts (eye KG), advance nature (Dual elemental) and body alteration (like Kimimaro bone manipulation KG). Also two question about inherits the KG of the father/mother:
What about the Chakra Absorption Ability of Yoroi Akado and Jirobo? I could of sworn I read somewhere that that ability was a kekkei genkai.
 
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*If someone whit a implanted KG like Yamato haves a son/daugther, he/she can haves the chance of gains the KG?
[[User:Jupiah|Jupiah]] 01:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 
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*And ninjas that haves two or more KG are breads of two persons whit different KG, not?
*Both of those were Jutsu related, they weren't bloodlines. [[Special:Contributions/99.228.172.121|99.228.172.121]] 03:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 
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--[[User:Dragonempeorslayer|Dragonempeorslayer]] ([[User talk:Dragonempeorslayer|talk]]) 21:34, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
   
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:What?--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:45, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
==Curse Seal Bloodline?==
 
Well what about Juugo's cursed body? He never uses handsigns and doesn't need any kind of seals to transform his body, and Orochimaru created his cursed seals using enzymes he extracted from Juugo's blood. True, it's never explicitly called a Kekkei Genkai, but it obviously is genetic, rather than learned. It really should be listed here. [[User:Jupiah|Jupiah]] 11:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 
:It's a special case with Juugo, and as far as we know it's not related to his heritage. [[User:Namikaze Suigetsu|Suigetsu Namikaze]] ( [[User_talk:Namikaze Suigetsu|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Namikaze Suigetsu|C]] ) 18:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 
   
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::I think what Dragonempeorslayer means is that Kekkei Genkai could be divided into 3 categories: Dojutsu, Advanced Natures and finally those Kekkei Genkai which alters the body somehow. I personally think that some Kekkei Genkai are not included into these categories, such as those of the [[Kurama Clan]] and [[Rinha clan]] (both non-canon, I aware). A third category could however be labelled "Other" or "Miscelaneous" Kekkei Genkai, in order to accomodate these.
==Mokuton==
 
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As for the posed questions(I will take the liberty to interpret them as well):
Isn't the Mokuton considered to be from the Senju clan of the forest?
 
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*"If a person with a transplanted Kekkei Genkai had a child, would it be possible for that child to inherit the transplanted kekkei genkai of it's parent?": As of yet, we don't know, as the situation hasn't come up in canon, though in some cases such as with [[Kakashi Hatake]] or [[Ao]] it seems rather unlikely, or just outright impossible since the subject is a transplanted dojutsu. However with [[Yamato]] the situation is less clear since he hasn't got a specific organ the wood release originates from. However in order for something to be passed down genetically from parent to child, it must be incoded into the DNA of the parent first, which, at least according to the [[Kekkei Genkai]] page, seems fully plausible in Yamato's case.
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*"Whether or not, a person with two or more non-transplanted Kekkei Genkai (only example so far is [[Mei Terumi]]) would inherit them from parents whom each have a different Kekkei Genkai?": Again, not something which has been adressed in canon so an answer can't be provided, yet it seems much more plausible than the transplanted examples I mentioned earlier.--[[User:Tzao|Tzao]] ([[User talk:Tzao|talk]]) 02:18, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Shikotsumyaku isn't limited to one person, the kekkei genkai was present on everyone from the Kaguya clan, that's how they acquired taste for blood and war. --[[User:Amourning|Amourning]] ([[User talk:Amourning|talk]]) 19:44, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
Mokuton was Hashirama's, and his alone, no other member of the Senju had it, so we don't consider it to belong to the clan, listing it as such would give the idea that various if not all members of the clan possess it, like the Byakugan or the Sharingan, which is not the case. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] 00:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Except it is. Kimimaro was the only one with it pretty much for all the time he was alive. Go read the chapters again. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:29, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
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Pardon me, but shouldn't we get back to the topic at hand? Should or shouldn't we divide Kekkei Genkai into the aforementioned categories: "Dojutsu", "Advanced Nature Transformation" and "Other"? Not as individual pages but on this very page, categorization wouldn't exactly hinder the information flow. --[[User:Tzao|Tzao]] ([[User talk:Tzao|talk]]) 07:20, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
Couldn't the same be said about the Shikotsumyaku of the Kaguya clan in that case? The only known possessor of this Kekkei Genkai was Kimimaro, to the point that it's said the rest of the clan feared him.
 
   
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== Smoke style ==
Shikotsumyaku is like the Sharingan, only scarcer. Example, every Hyuga is born with the Byakugan, Uchiha's have the genetic potential but need to be in a situation that brings the Sharingan out, the Shikotsumyaku is a one person per generation thing. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] 19:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
   
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I was wondering, even though it's not really canon, but it the smoke style used by Kigiri in the 3-tails arc a kekkei genkai or some offshoot chakra nature? I think it should at least be mentioned, or classified, in one of the pages.--[[User:Scarecrowsowards|Scarecrowsowards]] ([[User talk:Scarecrowsowards|talk]]) 21:18, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough, I guess.
 
   
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It's neither, it' was just smoke ninjutsu.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:46, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
Mokuton isn't really a kekkei Genkai if only Hashimaru posses it.[[User:DieJARJARDIE]] 17:53 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 
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:Never called anything that would suggest it being a nature transformation in any way. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:21, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
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Was it not called smoke style though? generally speaking, if it has "style" or "release" after an element, it can be assumed that said technique is a nature. I apologize if I'm way off base, I was just wondering.--[[User:Scarecrowsowards|Scarecrowsowards]] ([[User talk:Scarecrowsowards|talk]]) 16:41, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
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:If it was, that's what we would have called it. But it wasn't. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:25, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
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can someone remove the sharingan ancestor?--[[User:BossGSCS|BossGSCS]] ([[User talk:BossGSCS|talk]]) 08:05, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
:[[Kimimaro]] was the only one to use [[Shikotsumyaku]] in his clan which he admitted himself it was a Kekkei Genkai. --[[User:Silver Ninja|Silver Ninja]] 01:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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== More on Crystal Release? ==
Mokuton is a Kekkei Genkai and its proven too. Orochimaru implanted genetic (DNA) in in 10 (or was it 90 subjects??)to get Mokuton and the result was that Yamato suvived with Mokuton. Kekkei Genkai is genetic and the case with Yamato proves that Mokuton is also a Kekkei Genkai. Atlast thats what i know. {{unsigned|GameLover93}}
 
   
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I was thinking that the Crystal Release section was a little small. It only has one sentence. Guren was able to crystalize the moisture in the air and her foes to the molecular level with the Crystal Release. She was also seen to use one-handed hand seals like Haku's. I think that sharing those abilities of the Crystal Release are worth mentioning. I think the only problem is that the Crystal Release is anime only and a lot of how it works is a mystery. Still, I think the article should be lengthened a sentence or two. [[User:Yuri Bara|Yuri]] ([[User talk:Yuri Bara|talk]]) 18:09, April 28, 2014 (UTC)Yuri
== Add at jutsu ==
 
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:Sentences on the Kekkei Genkai page are collected with summary tags from the kekkei genkai's main article. You would need to adjust what the tag covers in the main article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:38, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== Scorch Release ==
I propose that we should add Kekkei Genkai at jutsu list because it's still an important skill. If we add weapons there we should add this 2. It was said nowhere that al Uchiha's had Sharingan and that all Hyuga's had Byakugan . It is only said that they could use it . Also from Kaguya clan only Kimimaro had the Kekkei Genkai. Therefore i think it will be better if we add it to jutsu list {{unsigned|Kadaj22|01:12, December 26, 2008}}
 
:With the current system Kekkei Genkai are already handled using {{Tlx|Ninja kekkei genkai}} which is turned into a title icon. The new infobox will have a separate parameter. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Dantman does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Dantman|Daniel Friesen]]<small> (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire)</small> <sup>([[User_talk:Dantman|talk]])</sup> <small>Dec 26, 2008 <sub>@</sub> 11:10 <sup>(UTC)</sup></small>
 
*Oh ok . But still I do think jutsus like Mangekyo Sharingan should be added. Also does Sharingan count as Kekkei Genkai for Kakashi?
 
   
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This page should probably mention that the scorch release utilizes both fire and wind-based chakras. Unable to make this edit myself. [[User:Ssbmelee99|Ssbmelee99]] ([[User talk:Ssbmelee99|talk]]) 13:01, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
== Combining Elements ==
 
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:If it ain't proven, it ain't added. It is highly suggested that Wind and Fire make up the bloodline, - as noted in the Scorch release page - but Kishi never confirmed the elements. [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 22:39, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
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::The manga has done enough for it to be mentioned in the main article. I think the main reason that's not in this article is because otherwise all non-infobox and trivia text from the article would be transcribed to this page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:32, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
   
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== inheritance ==
Kakashi stated that combining elements is a kekkei genkai....
 
:And do you have any point? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 06:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::If this is what I've seen elsewhere, let me make this ''very'' clear: combining elements is an example of KG, not all KG is element combo, not all element combo is KG. Once I saw someone arguing furiously that Sharingan is Fire + Lightning because those are Sasuke's chakra natures. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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greetings...I had this question...do ALL kekkei genkais get inherited by someone when they are born from the parents who are users of one? --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 09:11, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
You know there is also the Yin/Yang element which Sharingan could be some sort of combo with.
 
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:I don't think so, no. The Dust Release - from what we can tell, - doesn't actually seem inherited, and the Lava Release seems to widespread and random for bloodline selection to be the cause. There are some advanced natures that don't count as a Kekkei Genkai though, such as those gained by being a jinchūriki. There's also the Blaze Release, which is completely dependent on the individual's Mangekyō Sharingan (though since the Sharingan is inherited, this may not count). [[User:Atrix471|Atrix471]] ([[User talk:Atrix471|talk]]) 09:56, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Where exactly in the manga or even the databooks does it say there are two types of Kekkai Genkai?
 
As far as I can see we have been given two rules of KG (genetics and elemental combination)
 
and because there were a few case studies that fans can't figure out because Kishimoto hasn't explained
 
them yet (mainly Dojutsu) the fans decided that there must be two types of KG. Not because this is true
 
but because it is more convinent for them rather than simply stating that we don't have the necessary information.
 
Maybe not all KG are element combos (do remember that Yin/Yang is one of the Six Elements) but until Kishimoto
 
explains it that way it shouldn't be listed as fact as if he did explain it that way. And if Kishimoto
 
did explain it that way what evidence do you have? Where does it say in the manga or in the databooks? {{unsigned|173.73.68.161}}
 
   
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thought so too...thanx a lot buddy... --[[User:DARK ZER06|DARK ZER06]] ([[User talk:DARK ZER06|talk]]) 10:34, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Nothing suggests dōjutsu are nature transformation combos. There are other non-dōjutsu kekkei genkai which have never been linked to nature transformation, for example, [[Shikotsumyaku]] and [[Sōma no Kō]]. Kekkei genkai was first explained in part one as being techniques which required a bloodline inheritance. When Kakashi explained it again when he taught nature transformation to Naruto, he used Wood Release, a nature transformation combination as an example of kekkei genkai. Saying Sharingan isn't an element combination of fire and lightning is as simple as pointing out that there are Uchiha who don't have lightning-natured chakra. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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== Caos ==
Another important thing to remember; disregard anything that you have learnt from fillers and/or movies. They constantly break the facts and rules of the Naruto world and if you take them into consideration you will become confused. {{Unsigned|122.57.130.70}}
 
   
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I think that this page is unclear! We should separate those from non-canonical and canonical. We must remove Dust release, because it isn't KG.--[[User:Sharingan91|Sharingan91]] ([[User talk:Sharingan91|talk]]) 14:40, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
== Crystal Release ==
 
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:Stop going around wiki talkpages demanding that things be removed, we're not all databook fanatics who believe it replaces the manga. It is a Kekkei Genkai and was stated to be one, so please stop going to any more talkpages and demanding information to be removed that is 100% confirmed or it will become disruptive. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:53, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::It is not a Kekkei Genkei, it is a Kekkei Tota, manga AND Databook say so. He is right, although he went about it wrong. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 16:00, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Eh, Sajuuk, Sharingan91 is actually correct, Dust Release is not a Kekkei Genkai. It's categorized as one because the infobox template automatically does so (it only discerns between KKG and KKM) and since this article includes everything from the KKG category, it includes Dust Release as well. I would change the infobox template, but I think you've more knowlegde on that topic, so please go ahead. :) • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:43, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Unfortunately, I don't have the level of knowledge to fix that, sorry. You could ask UltimateSupreme though. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:51, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:@Sajuuk, Talkpages serve to discuss and improve the pages. Mine was just a suggestion.--[[User:Sharingan91|Sharingan91]] ([[User talk:Sharingan91|talk]]) 17:51, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::Your suggestions are welcome, but with the exclamation mark, should and must it sounded more like a command though.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 18:18, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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:::This. Seriously, tone it down a little, please. Because it does indeed look like demands/commands and whatnot. <span style="color:#0700ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0700ff, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #b38b00;"><font color="gold">'''''★'''''</font></span> [[User:WindStar7125|<span style="color:#0700ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0700ff, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0700ff;"><font color="blue">''''' WS7125'''''</font></span>]]<sub><small><span title="This user helps the wiki by moderating the forums and the chat">[Mod]</span></small></sub>[[File:WindStar7125 Task.svg|20px|link=User talk:WindStar7125]][[File:WindStar7125's Task.svg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/WindStar7125|]] 18:21, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Yes, read the messages of the others carefully and learn from them. That way, you will see that none of them ever needed a command to support their opinion. [[User:Djfghdfe53475zdhdf|Djfghdfe53475zdhdf]] ([[User talk:Djfghdfe53475zdhdf|talk]]) 19:03, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
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: Ok, nothing "must" and "!".--[[User:Sharingan91|Sharingan91]] ([[User talk:Sharingan91|talk]]) 19:27, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
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:::::Fixed.--''[[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme</span>]]'' 09:26, March 1, 2015 (UTC)
When was it stated that Crystal Release is a kekkei genkai? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 15:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==Kurama==
 
 
Why is there a random section on the kurama clans kekkei genkai it really should be delted and merged with the kurama clan article or have its own page. [[User:DieJARJARDIE]] 17:53, 15 April (UTC)
 
 
I started a new page but delete the section incase there was any problems [[User:DieJARJARDIE]] 18:19, 15 April (UTC)
 
 
== Iron Sand is Kekkei Genkai? ==
 
 
When was it every mentioned that the Iron Sand was a Kekkai Genkai. It is never even said? [[User:Cooltamerboy|Cooltamerboy]] ([[User talk:Cooltamerboy|talk]]) 02:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC).
 
 
:Third databook. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 02:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== Lava ==
 
 
It's in the kekkei genkai category, but it's not showing up on the list. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:47, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Yes shouldn't we add the dust, blaze, boil and lava releases... They all seem to be kekkei genkai
 
 
Dust and Boil are already there, but I wouldn't add Blaze yet, this would mean Sasuke has two kekkei genkai, we'd need an explanation on how that happened. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:28, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
It shows up now. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Blaze isn't an advanced nature, it's Sasuke using his Mangekyo to manipulate Amaterasu's Black Flames. So it's really a more advanced form of a previously existing technique. [[User:LeafNinjaGoku|LeafNinjaGoku]] ([[User talk:LeafNinjaGoku|talk]]) 02:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Check talk pages of relevant articles, I don't feel like explaining the line-of-thought we used for this situation twice in the same day. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Citations on Kekkei Genkai==
 
 
Could someone please cite the chapter/databook/episode where Crystal Release, Dust Release and Storm Release were stated to be Kekkai Genkai? I can't remember anyone saying they were bloodlines, or even implying it for that matter. Heck, so far as I can remember, the only mentions of Dust and Storm were a single jutsu name each.
 
 
Also, why is just about every technique ending in -ton being assumed to be a fusion of two basic chakra elements (even when no one has any idea which elements are being fused)? Blaze isn't a fusion (we know that's actually the Amaterasu being shaped) and Dust doesn't seem to be either (or at least, it isn't obviously one). There are plenty of Kekkai Genkai that have unique jutsu that aren't elemental fusions, so it seems a bit odd to assume each new release must be a fusion until proven otherwise.
 
[[User:Altered Nova|Altered Nova]] ([[User talk:Altered Nova|talk]]) 00:13, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
:Theres never going to be any thing on crystal element in the databooks because that was an anime only kekkei genkai. [[User:Narutosagemaster|Narutosagemaster]] ([[User talk:Narutosagemaster|talk]]) 00:51, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
::# Every Release (i.e. every technique with a prefix ending in {{translation|-''ton''|遁}}) ever shown in the manga has been an element. Each and every single one. It would be ridiculous to think otherwise.
 
::# It was clearly stated that there are only five basic elements and it was all but blatantly said that any other element is a combination of two basic elements.
 
::# It was clearly stated that to combine two basic elements and create a new one, a kekkei genkai is required.
 
::# Blaze Release is the only element shown to be significantly different from the others, in that it was created through a dōjutsu and is seemingly used to manipulate fire. However, it could still be a combination of two basic elements. It is, without a doubt, a kekkei genkai.
 
::# Storm Release is clearly a combination of Water and Lightning Release. This means it is a kekkei genkai, as per point 3.
 
::# Dust Release is rather obviously an advanced element, as it behaves different from any known element. The Tsuchikage showed the ability to use two basic elements, so we even have the likely components of Dust Release.
 
::# I'm not getting into Crystal Release, since that is anime-only.
 
::--[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 02:02, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
What two elemtents has the Tuschikage been seen using? Also I think that Dust could be a combination of earth and wind maybe because when wind grinds down earth it turns to dust. Just throwing that out there. [[User:Narutosagemaster|Narutosagemaster]] ([[User talk:Narutosagemaster|talk]]) 02:59, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Dust being earth and wind is the common theory, but it's still a theory, so we don't list the wind part. So we're sure we consider Blaze Release now, cause it still hasn't been added to categories and templates as a kekkei genkai. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:53, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Well, no one seems to have opposed, so I'll go ahead and change Blaze Release to kekkei genkai. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:01, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==List of Kekkei Genkai==
 
 
I think we should have a list of anime only kekkei kengai because the list we have is very confusing as to which are real or not [[User:Narutosagemaster|Narutosagemaster]] ([[User talk:Narutosagemaster|talk]]) 00:58, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==sand manipulation==
 
shouldnt gaaras sabd manipulation since it is passed down from the ichibi{{unsigned|Flameboy4z}}
 
*Nope. Lava Release is a kekkei genkai, but because Roshi got it from his tailed beast rather than having the bloodline, he's not listed as having the kekkei genkai. Also, there's no such thing as Sand Release, it's not an advanced nature. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 
::shouldnt gaaras sand be listed as a power like Roshis? I know its not a chakra nature but its a beasts power given to him like roshi got from the 4- tailed beast, I'm not sure if its a kekkai genkai but it sure still be listed somewhere.{{unsigned|Kouseki}}
 
well, if its not there cant I make a sand manipulation page?
 
:::It's not an advanced nature, and it's not a kekkei genkai, no point in making a page using the same logic as that. The way I see it, the closest thing we have is hijutsu, but even with it, we don't make articles on styles, like the Nara clan shadow techniques. We have articles for individual techniques, but not to the style. If this was more like the Gentle Fist, which is a named style from which several techniques stem, then it would be another matter. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah, but there are techniques that derive from it like Sphere of Sand
 
Successive Shots: Sand Drizzle, Third Eye, Ultimate Absolute Attack: Shukaku's Halberd (Anime only), Ultimate Absolute Defense: Shield of Shukaku, Armor of Sand, Desert Suspension, Feigning Sleep Technique, Prison Sand Burial, Quicksand in the Style of a Waterfall, Sand Binding Coffin, Sand Binding Prison, Sand Clone, Sand Drizzle, Sand Shuriken, Sand Waterfall Funeral, Sand Waterfall Imperial Funeral, Shield of Sand, Sky Sand Protective Wall.
 
So ther should still be a page on it it, im not saying its a kekkai genkai anymore and i know its not an advanced nature, but there should still be a page on it, it is of naruto, and shouldnt this site cover EVERYTHING about naruto?!
 
 
Pretty much everything there is to know about sand manipulation is already available at the ability section over at Gaara's article, making an article about it unneeded. A redirect to that section is would be enough. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:24, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Thinks now i can work on other things.
 
 
This is getting big you should make this as ans archive 2
 
 
==Suigetsu liquid==
 
Would this ba a kekkai genkai since it was only used by him or is this the result of many experiaments by orochimaru?
 
*Not enough info on it, and I don't think the third data book called it a kekkei genkai, only a Water Release technique. You know, not all techniques with one user are kekkei genkai. If it mentioned as such, we'll add it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:47, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==Spiral dojutsu==
 
Could we add ths to kekkai genkai oand make a page for it or do we have to little info?
 
*Hardly enough info to say anything at this point. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:47, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
==Blaze release not a kekkai genkai==
 
No proof of blaze release being kekkai genkai because not all Uchiha are able to do it. So it cannot be an Uchiha clan kekkei genkai. It's just control of Amaterasu that's different from person to person. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 23:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Not all Uchiha have Sharingan, and it's a kekkei genkai. Blaze Release is something Sasuke got after getting his Mangekyō, which is a heightened form of the Sharingan, which is a kekkei genkai. For all effects, if it is derived from the Sharigan, it is a kekkei genkai. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:21, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Actually, all Uchiha DO have Sharingan. Unless you produce proof that there are Uchiha's without sharingans, I'm going to have to say you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no blaze release. It's just a control over Amaterasu. For it to be a kekkei genkai of the Uchiha clan ALL Uchiha members would need to be able to do it. Of the three members who have shown the use of their mangekyou, only two of which were able to do it. The third member was not, which means it isn't a kekkei genkai. It's just a control over Amaterasu that stems from potential and ability, it's not even a release so it certainly can't be a KG. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 23:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:You assume all Uchiha wake up with the Sharingan activated. We know from the bat, that is not the case. With the simple out of the way I will be answering the rest in bullet form.
 
:# There is a Blaze Release. See [[Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi]].
 
:# Because, based on what we know, Blaze Release manipulates Amaterasu. Amaterasu is derived from a Kekkei Genkai. Blaze Release is a nature release, thus it is itself, a kekkei genkai.
 
:# No idea what you're talking about with the three people who use their Mangekyos.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 23:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Sasuke himself said that not all Uchiha had the Sharigan when he first learned Kakashi had it. And as far as I remember, I don't recall his mother or his aunt and uncle having Sharingan. Not all people have to have something for it to be a kekkei genkai, Shikotsumyako is like that, only one person in a generation has it. And Blaze Release is a release, Sasuke said Enton, which translates to that. You're the one with little understanding on how things work. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:33, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
All that page means is that someone for whatever reason, someone thought Sasuke manipulating Amaterasu was a release. It's not, Amaterasu is not it's own elemental affinity, it's STILL fire element, so it cannot be it's own release. And no, all Uchiha don't wake up with it activated, but it always activates eventually.
 
 
There are no Uchiha who simply DO NOT HAVE. Which is not the same as HAVE NOT AWAKENED. There are NO Uchiha who completely do not have sharingan. BECAUSE it is a kekkei genkai, ALL of them must have it.
 
 
Which is why Blaze release cannot rightfully exist, nor can it be a kekkei genkai. For a it to be a kekkei genkai it has to be unique to a WHOLE bloodline. Sharingan is unique to a bloodline, everyone in the bloodline DOES have sharingan even if they don't awaken it. Mind you, there is no proof of an Uchiha who could not awaken their sharingan. But everyone in the bloodline CANNOT use the so called blaze release. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 23:42, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Oh titans.
 
:# It means it's an element. It's called a release. It's a release. Got a problem with that, take it up with Kishimoto.
 
:# They all don't have to have it. Did you ignore what Omni said? [[Wood Release]] is a kekkei genkai, yet only the First Hokage had it.
 
:# I disproved this with my last two points. Again if you have a problem with Blaze Release, take it up with Kishimoto. He made it. His rules.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 23:46, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Sasuke used the different name. If that's him being cocky about his ability, someone will have to point that out in the manga or in a databook. Until they awake the Sharigan, they don't have the Sharingan. Having a trait doesn't mean you'll manifest it, look up genetics somewhere if that isn't clear, there are environmental factors that determine whether they'll activate it or not. There are four Uchiha character pages in this wiki that aren't known to have awakened the Sharigan. One is likely to have awakened it because he was part of the police, but Sasuke's mother, aunt and uncle were never hinted to have awakened it. And again, kekkei genkai doesn't mean you automatically get things. The bone thing Kimimaro had was a kekkei genkai that showed up once in a generation in his family. Only Hashirama had Wood Release in his clan. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:48, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
This still doesn't prove that blaze release is an actual release, which I don't believe it is. Because it's NOT an element. For blaze release to be real, blaze would have to be an actual element. Even if you substituted blaze with amaterasu, amaterasu is NOT a different element, it's STILL a fire element.
 
 
I concede the point about wood release, but we also don't know whether or not it was present in any of his family because there are so few of them ever mentioned. The only one even still alive is Tsunade and like Omni said, having a trait doesn't mean you'll manifest it. So Tsunade might have it, and just never exhibited any signs of it.
 
 
Because not manifesting it does NOT mean you don't have it. It just means it never awakened, or didn't awaken at the time. It's not really a sure thing that the very few uchiha members who weren't able to use sharingan would never be able to use it because they died. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 23:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Like I said before, if that's Sasuke being cocky about his ability, someone will have to point that out in the manga or in a databook, and until that happens, we'll consider Blaze as a separate nature. Manifesting or not, genetics still say that there is a change of not inheriting traits, for all effects in this wiki, if you're not shown or known to have something, you don't have something. If Uchiha's died before they could activate the Sharingan, it means they don't have it. Consider having something as having access to it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:03, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:# Yes. Yes it is an element. It was called {{translation|炎遁|Enton}} which is Blaze Release. Again if you a problem with it, take it up with Kishimoto. Not us. Don't matter what it does. It's an advanced element because it is NOT one of the five basic ones.
 
:# And as such, does not disprove our argument.
 
:# Per above.
 
::Because two of your arguments have been disproven/resolved, I can (hope) this little back and forth is over.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 00:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
That's fine, but I don't believe it is a seperate nature because you said yourself before that it manifests from amaterasu. And Amaterasu is known as a fire element. I don't care what Sasuke called it, that does not automatically make it a different element. For it to be an advanced element, it would need to be the combination of two elements and there is no proof of that totally besides the fact Sasuke only knows fire and lightning elements as far as I'm aware, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make something like the black flames which from amaterasu. Notice, Sasuke was incased in Amaterasu when using said technique and as far as I know hasn't exhibited it any other time. Your beliefs are fine, but you haven't ACTUALLY disproved anything and I'm entitled to mine as well. I'm glad this is open for more discussion because I'd like know what other people think about it and really it's only a back and forth because for whatever reason you seem to think only your views are allowed. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 00:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
: Oh my dear Lord in heaven....Look. Enton, Blaze Release, whatever you want to call it, is both Kekkai Genkai, and an advanced element. Like the others said, only Kishi himself (whether it be through the manga, or through a databook) can disprove that it isn't. But think of this; Why in the sweet name of Moses would Kishimoto put "Enton: Kagutsuchi" if it wasn't exactly that? Listen here is a few things I'd like to point out;
 
# Enton is a ''release'' stemming from the Mangekyo Sharingan, meaning those without the said eye technique ''cannot use it''. I'd further that by saying that those who don't posses Uchiha blood cannot use it, though my reasoning for this is that Kakashi who also has the eye has not demonstrated Amaterasu, much less Enton. This makes it Kekkai Genkai.
 
# The flipping release itself, is called Enton, translation ''Blaze Release''. You wanna know why it's called that? Kishi only uses ''Release'' after the name of an element, to signify advanced Nature Transformation. Yes, we don't know what it is made up of, though I'm pretty sure it's made up entirely of Amaterasu. The Blaze Release nature is nothing more than the manipulation of the black flames, but that doesn't disqualify it from the Nature Release lists. Kishi could be expanding on that topic and you wouldn't know, now would you?
 
# Here's another thing, Kishi wrote it. That means that it doesn't really matter what you interpret, to be blunt, it means exactly what he said. Enton, Blaze Release.
 
 
My Lord, reading this conversation gave me a headache, because Omni and Ultimate had to repeat their point over and over, and it's pretty clear if you read the panel it appears in, what it is called, and how it is applied. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Ten Tailed Fox does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ryun Uchiha]]<small> (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou)</small> <sup>([[User talk:Ten Tailed Fox|talk]])</sup> 01:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
You must be a genius or something, considering even some people WITH mangekyou sharingan and Uchiha blood can't use it. For instance, uh, ITACHI.
 
Which, by the reasoning you tried to use would make it not a kekkei genkai but thank you for disproving your point without me having to say anything. Personally, I still don't believe it's a seperate release, nor element, it is still amaterasu based and therefore fire element. But whatever, no point in arguing with people who only have one view point. [[User:NarutoFanDude|NarutoFanDude]] ([[User talk:NarutoFanDude|talk]]) 03:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
: Actually, my friend, I'm not a regular editor here yet, and have several issues with how they run things here. We don't know if Itachi could use it or not. He was very sick in his fight with Sasuke, nor was he going all out. Believe what you may, but that does not make your belief anything next to what is stated in the actual chapter. ~<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="Ten Tailed Fox does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> [[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ryun Uchiha]]<small> (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou)</small> <sup>([[User talk:Ten Tailed Fox|talk]])</sup> 05:19, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Ah well, looks like I stepped in at the right time. Not like I have a life or nothing. (sarcasm alarm blows up). Anyways, listen up. While it is true that we have no confirmation that Enton is a kekkai genkai, based on what we've seen in the manga with the 5th Mizukage using two natures; we assumed that it was kekkai genkai. In fact, it was. Basically, you are all saying that because someone can use water style, they can use ice style. It's the same thing. Just because an Uchiha has Amaterasu, doesn't mean they can utilize the enton release. Guys, seriously, it isn't rocket science. Kishi failed that subjet. --[[User:Seireitou|Seireitou-shishō]] <sup>([[User talk:Seireitou|瀞霊冬川平]])</sup> 05:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
I might have an idea. Isn't Amaterasu itself an advanced form of fire wich would make with the name Blaze. Those who awakend Mangekyou and masterd Amaterasu to this point can do it, because is only shape manupilation of Amaterasu. But it is an Kekkai Genkai because Amaterasu itself is a Kekkei Genkai. I hope that what i told is right and clears a bit off with the Enton being a Kekkei Genkai. {{unsigned|GameLover93}}
 
 
== Eternal mangekyou sharingan ? ==
 
 
Isn't eternal mangekyou sharingan kekkei genkai and why is it not in madara's kekkei genkai section (sasuke's too as of now) ? --[[User:Petar93|Petar93]] ([[User talk:Petar93|talk]]) 00:16, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
*No icon for it, it's still a Mangekyō. ShounenSuki never made an icon for it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:34, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Google it people try to find something then put it because this is a wiki everything must be here :P --[[User:Petar93|Petar93]] ([[User talk:Petar93|talk]]) 09:44, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
There's no need for an Eternal Mangekyō icon. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:52, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Yamanaka Clan ==
 
why isnt that listed as a kekki genkai.
 
:Because they do not have one. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 21:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
::the jutsus that the Yamanakas use can be learned by anyone it's just that they specialize in them because they're more adept to them...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 22:30, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Rules. ==
 
 
Lately I've noticed that people have been going out of their way to say everything is a kekkie genkai so maybe I'm the one missing something. I was under the impression that your born with a kekkie genkia if you get it other wise like yamato or steal it like with eyes are they really bloodline. I think we should only use kekkie genkia in a situation where someone is born with a trait no matter what. I think if you wanna make yamato an exception thats ok ,but for anything else it should be under abilities ex. mardara's Rinnegan ,or Mangekyō Sharingan because you only get it if you take someone else eyes its not really giving at birth we don't say Garra's one tail a kekkie ginkia because its circumstantial just like those 2 examples.[[User:TwinRisingDragons|TwinRisingDragons]] ([[User talk:TwinRisingDragons|talk]]) 16:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:#) A Kekkei Genkai is something unique to the blood or genetic.
 
:#) Stealing a kekkei genkai, and crafting it to ones body, is enough for one to have it listed in the "Kekkei Genkai" field. It's still a bloodline technique, even if it is not yours.
 
:#) We have no proof Madara attached the Rinnegan to himself.
 
:#) Mangekyo Sharingan, does not require one to steal anothers eyes. The Eternal does, but that is still just a further evolution of the original Mangekyo.
 
:#) I'm not sure how Gaara, or any jinchuriki is related to this in any way.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 17:21, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Sorry for not coming up with Better analogies. I see now y'all consider anything that comes from a blood line trait a kekkie genkia even if its not that persons personal kekkie genkia. I mentioned Mardara and the Rinnegan because the last time I check his page it was listed under his kekki genkia as well as it was listed under the uzemaki clan kekkie genkia aswell i guess it was just spam. I also read a post someone said if your born with it its a kekki genkia which i felt was wrong so i put in the garra thing because he was born with a beast and it was not a kekki genkia. Last I didn't mean to leave such a nasty post it was sloppy SRY.[[User:TwinRisingDragons|TwinRisingDragons]] ([[User talk:TwinRisingDragons|talk]]) 19:10, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
==Dust Release==
 
 
Should we remove Dust Release? It's a Kekkei Tota, not Genkai. I'd remove it myself, but don't know the process [[User:Fangzntalonz|Fangzntalonz]] ([[User talk:Fangzntalonz|talk]]) 03:58, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I think it'll be fine until we learn more specifics about Dust Release and Bloodline Expansions itself. [[User:Dragonus Nesha|Dragonus Nesha]] ([[User talk:Dragonus Nesha|talk]]) 04:32, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
My problem with Dust Release being mentioned as a Kekkai Genkai is that it is -technically- not one. Kekkai Touta are not Kekkai Genkai, at least not in any direct sense. Yes, it is an advanced chakra nature that comes from combining elements, but Kekkai Genkai are specifically stated as being limited to a two-nature combination by Kakashi during Naruto's Rasenshuriken training. A (the Fourth Raikage) also states that a Kekkai Touta is "an ability beyond that of a Kekkai Genkai" in Chapter 525. The wording of that statement makes me think that the two are not facets of the same classification of ability, but are really completely different classes.
 
 
I can understand if it's merely listed as a Kekkai Genkai for ease of reference -seeing as there are no other Kekkai Touta that have been revealed yet-, but I thought it was a fair enough point to bring it up on the talk page. --[[User:EonStorm|EonStorm]] ([[User talk:EonStorm|talk]]) 05:50, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== kinkaku and ginkaku ==
 
 
kinkaku and ginkaku... what about they're ability to eat the flesh of a bijuu and survive while gaining it's power at it.{{unsigned|121.54.96.139 }}
 
:Not really... That was linked to their assumed ancestry.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 16:21, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Advanced Nature Kekkai Genkai: List of combined Elements? ==
 
 
For those nature Kekkai Genkai -and Kekkai Tōta- that we know the component elements for -i.e. Hyōton, Yōton-, should we have a list for them in the infobox of said nature Kekkai Genkai? --[[User:EonStorm|EonStorm]] ([[User talk:EonStorm|talk]]) 06:00, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Ordening the page ==
 
 
Is anyone against the idea of ordening the page in three categories?
 
 
- Dojutsu
 
- Advanced natures
 
- other KkGk's
 
 
PS: Why is the Mangekyo counted as a different KkGk when the origin, the Sharingan, is already mentioned?
 
 
[[User:Derigar|Derigar]] ([[User talk:Derigar|talk]]) 12:00, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I know this has been asked a few times already, so why hasn't action been taken? I would of have done it myself, but I'm not able to edit it...
 
 
[[User:Derigar|Derigar]] ([[User talk:Derigar|talk]]) 14:01, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Jutsu
 
 
It has been categorised there :p shouldn't we stay consistent? :/ [[User:Derigar|Derigar]] ([[User talk:Derigar|talk]]) 14:35, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Image and logos (vectors) ==
 
 
Is not weird using a vector/illustration instead of a image from the series for some Kekkei Genkai ([[Sharingan]], [[Byakugan]], [[Rinnegan]])? I mean, you guys pick on because there were a line on the image in the case of [[Talk:Demon Brothers|Demon Brothers]], but ignore things like this. Also, there's no standard for [[Kekkei Genkai]] images (only for doujutsu, but they are kekkei genkai too), some use ShounenSuki image/icon, others use a image from the series. I have nothing against the vectors, I do like them, but I think it fits better for logos in the infobox and not in the main image.--[[User:Spcmn|Spcmn]] ([[User talk:Spcmn|talk]]) 22:31, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:All of the images in their own articles are images from the series. In this page, they're shown like that because the page is coded to see which articles are categorised as kekkei genkai and add them, their summary, and the icon we use for them automatically. I don't know much about coding, but I think that polling for their generic icons is easier than polling for the images used in their articles. Besides, they're smaller, so they take up less space here, which makes sense since most of this page is a list to the kekkei genkai articles. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:43, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I was talking about the main image of some articles (e.g. sharingan's article), not the kekkei genkai article. I just used this talk page because my issue includes every kekkei genkai.--[[User:Spcmn|Spcmn]] ([[User talk:Spcmn|talk]]) 03:18, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I don't see a problem with the use of vector images as the main image. It portrays what the kekkei genkai looks like and is better than most images that aren't close to the users face. Seeing as we also have images of users with the kekkei genkai on the pages as well, it shouldn't be a problem.
 
 
As for the other kekkei genkai that have an image from the series, how can a vector image be made for some of them? Dojutsu is easier to make because they have a standard look but how would someone make one for boil release? or Shikotsumyaku? You really can't expect their to be a set image for those types of kekkei genkai. So, I say we should keep the vector images as main images as long as they can be made. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 03:50, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
We have vector images for nature transformation kekkei genkai. Check the infobox of characters who have those kekkei genkai or the techniques. We have an image for Shikotsumyaku as well. Heck, half the Naruto fandom that uses icons to denote nature transformations use ShounenSuki's images. About using the vector images, I think that a sort of bonus is that we don't have image revert wars over that. If we used one from the series, that would certainly happen. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:35, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Naruto blood prison ==
 
 
I was wondering why the kekkei genkai of the girl ryuuzetsu from Naruto blood prison which enabled her to transfer life is not listed here whilst other movie only kekkei genkai (like steel release and dark release)--{{unsigned|82.145.209.161}}
 
:It's either a glitch or because of the fact that her kekkei gankai was never named so there's no article for it except [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
::In that case would it be a possible solution for you to do what you did with Sakon and Ukon's unnamed kekkei genkai whereby you stated that it was unnamed then linked it to its related jutsu, in this case linking it to the [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]].--{{unsigned|82.145.209.161}}
 
:::But everything that is known about the kekkei genkai is already on that jutsu page. It'd just be a one-line duplicate. Also please remember to sign your posts using four tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki> or the [http://slot1.images.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb54126/common/skins/common/images/button_sig.png signature button].--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:29, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I apologize if I'm too late to respond, but could I please make a suggestion? How about going to the Trivia section and adding an item saying, "Ryuuzetsu from Naruto 5:Blood Prison has a kekkei genkai, but nothing is known about it other than it allows her to perform the [[Dragon Life Reincarnation]] jutsu"? Doing that would include all known KG without the need to create a one-line duplicate article. If that's okay with everyone, then I or someone else could go ahead and do that. [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 22:16, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Under normal circumstances, that's what would be done, but this isn't a normal page. It automatically collects pieces of the articles which are tagged as kekkei genkai, so we don't have to keep writing the same thing over and over in more than one page. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 04:24, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Hmm. Well, I'll leave the decision on how to handle this to those who know what they're doing (because everyone knows how clueless I am ~winks~), but I think a solution is needed because until it's included, the article isn't complete. Is there a way to have a separate section listing KG we know almost nothing about, like how the Shuriken article has a listof shuriken launchers even though none of those has a separate article? [[User:Raidra|Raidra]] ([[User talk:Raidra|talk]]) 12:31, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 

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I was wondering why the kekkei genkai of the girl ryuuzetsu from Naruto blood prison which enabled her to transfer life is not listed here whilst other movie only kekkei genkai (like steel release and dark release)--—This unsigned comment was made by 82.145.209.161 (talkcontribs) .

It's either a glitch or because of the fact that her kekkei gankai was never named so there's no article for it except Dragon Life Reincarnation.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 13:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
In that case would it be a possible solution for you to do what you did with Sakon and Ukon's unnamed kekkei genkai whereby you stated that it was unnamed then linked it to its related jutsu, in this case linking it to the Dragon Life Reincarnation.--—This unsigned comment was made by 82.145.209.161 (talkcontribs) .
But everything that is known about the kekkei genkai is already on that jutsu page. It'd just be a one-line duplicate. Also please remember to sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~) or the signature button.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:29, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
I apologize if I'm too late to respond, but could I please make a suggestion? How about going to the Trivia section and adding an item saying, "Ryuuzetsu from Naruto 5:Blood Prison has a kekkei genkai, but nothing is known about it other than it allows her to perform the Dragon Life Reincarnation jutsu"? Doing that would include all known KG without the need to create a one-line duplicate article. If that's okay with everyone, then I or someone else could go ahead and do that. Raidra (talk) 22:16, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
Under normal circumstances, that's what would be done, but this isn't a normal page. It automatically collects pieces of the articles which are tagged as kekkei genkai, so we don't have to keep writing the same thing over and over in more than one page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:24, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. Well, I'll leave the decision on how to handle this to those who know what they're doing (because everyone knows how clueless I am ~winks~), but I think a solution is needed because until it's included, the article isn't complete. Is there a way to have a separate section listing KG we know almost nothing about, like how the Shuriken article has a listof shuriken launchers even though none of those has a separate article? Raidra (talk) 12:31, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
On second thought, may I please create an article about it? I promise to make it more than one sentence, and if you don't like it, you can make whatever changes you wish to it. Raidra (talk) 15:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

um actually why aint this listed when malices is, and it is literally a copy. it that one is listed, list this one too only fair and both have the same amount of detail.--208.124.127.88 (talk) 00:31, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and made an article. Big thanks to Cerez365 for the help. I'm still a mere genin. Raidra (talk) 14:04, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Question

Future Telling should not be quoted here? 198.144.105.236 (talk) 00:03, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Dōjutsu, may not be a keeki genkai.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 00:21, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

categories, implantation KG inheriting and Dual KG

Whit some analyse yo can divids KG in 3 categories, doujuts (eye KG), advance nature (Dual elemental) and body alteration (like Kimimaro bone manipulation KG). Also two question about inherits the KG of the father/mother:

  • If someone whit a implanted KG like Yamato haves a son/daugther, he/she can haves the chance of gains the KG?
  • And ninjas that haves two or more KG are breads of two persons whit different KG, not?

--Dragonempeorslayer (talk) 21:34, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

What?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 23:45, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
I think what Dragonempeorslayer means is that Kekkei Genkai could be divided into 3 categories: Dojutsu, Advanced Natures and finally those Kekkei Genkai which alters the body somehow. I personally think that some Kekkei Genkai are not included into these categories, such as those of the Kurama Clan and Rinha clan (both non-canon, I aware). A third category could however be labelled "Other" or "Miscelaneous" Kekkei Genkai, in order to accomodate these.

As for the posed questions(I will take the liberty to interpret them as well):

  • "If a person with a transplanted Kekkei Genkai had a child, would it be possible for that child to inherit the transplanted kekkei genkai of it's parent?": As of yet, we don't know, as the situation hasn't come up in canon, though in some cases such as with Kakashi Hatake or Ao it seems rather unlikely, or just outright impossible since the subject is a transplanted dojutsu. However with Yamato the situation is less clear since he hasn't got a specific organ the wood release originates from. However in order for something to be passed down genetically from parent to child, it must be incoded into the DNA of the parent first, which, at least according to the Kekkei Genkai page, seems fully plausible in Yamato's case.
  • "Whether or not, a person with two or more non-transplanted Kekkei Genkai (only example so far is Mei Terumi) would inherit them from parents whom each have a different Kekkei Genkai?": Again, not something which has been adressed in canon so an answer can't be provided, yet it seems much more plausible than the transplanted examples I mentioned earlier.--Tzao (talk) 02:18, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Shikotsumyaku isn't limited to one person, the kekkei genkai was present on everyone from the Kaguya clan, that's how they acquired taste for blood and war. --Amourning (talk) 19:44, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Except it is. Kimimaro was the only one with it pretty much for all the time he was alive. Go read the chapters again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:29, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Pardon me, but shouldn't we get back to the topic at hand? Should or shouldn't we divide Kekkei Genkai into the aforementioned categories: "Dojutsu", "Advanced Nature Transformation" and "Other"? Not as individual pages but on this very page, categorization wouldn't exactly hinder the information flow. --Tzao (talk) 07:20, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Smoke style

I was wondering, even though it's not really canon, but it the smoke style used by Kigiri in the 3-tails arc a kekkei genkai or some offshoot chakra nature? I think it should at least be mentioned, or classified, in one of the pages.--Scarecrowsowards (talk) 21:18, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

It's neither, it' was just smoke ninjutsu.--Elveonora (talk) 21:46, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Never called anything that would suggest it being a nature transformation in any way. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:21, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Was it not called smoke style though? generally speaking, if it has "style" or "release" after an element, it can be assumed that said technique is a nature. I apologize if I'm way off base, I was just wondering.--Scarecrowsowards (talk) 16:41, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

If it was, that's what we would have called it. But it wasn't. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:25, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

can someone remove the sharingan ancestor?--BossGSCS (talk) 08:05, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

More on Crystal Release?

I was thinking that the Crystal Release section was a little small. It only has one sentence. Guren was able to crystalize the moisture in the air and her foes to the molecular level with the Crystal Release. She was also seen to use one-handed hand seals like Haku's. I think that sharing those abilities of the Crystal Release are worth mentioning. I think the only problem is that the Crystal Release is anime only and a lot of how it works is a mystery. Still, I think the article should be lengthened a sentence or two. Yuri (talk) 18:09, April 28, 2014 (UTC)Yuri

Sentences on the Kekkei Genkai page are collected with summary tags from the kekkei genkai's main article. You would need to adjust what the tag covers in the main article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:38, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Scorch Release

This page should probably mention that the scorch release utilizes both fire and wind-based chakras. Unable to make this edit myself. Ssbmelee99 (talk) 13:01, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

If it ain't proven, it ain't added. It is highly suggested that Wind and Fire make up the bloodline, - as noted in the Scorch release page - but Kishi never confirmed the elements. Atrix471 (talk) 22:39, May 27, 2014 (UTC)
The manga has done enough for it to be mentioned in the main article. I think the main reason that's not in this article is because otherwise all non-infobox and trivia text from the article would be transcribed to this page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:32, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

inheritance

greetings...I had this question...do ALL kekkei genkais get inherited by someone when they are born from the parents who are users of one? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 09:11, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so, no. The Dust Release - from what we can tell, - doesn't actually seem inherited, and the Lava Release seems to widespread and random for bloodline selection to be the cause. There are some advanced natures that don't count as a Kekkei Genkai though, such as those gained by being a jinchūriki. There's also the Blaze Release, which is completely dependent on the individual's Mangekyō Sharingan (though since the Sharingan is inherited, this may not count). Atrix471 (talk) 09:56, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

thought so too...thanx a lot buddy... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 10:34, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Caos

I think that this page is unclear! We should separate those from non-canonical and canonical. We must remove Dust release, because it isn't KG.--Sharingan91 (talk) 14:40, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Stop going around wiki talkpages demanding that things be removed, we're not all databook fanatics who believe it replaces the manga. It is a Kekkei Genkai and was stated to be one, so please stop going to any more talkpages and demanding information to be removed that is 100% confirmed or it will become disruptive. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 14:53, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
It is not a Kekkei Genkei, it is a Kekkei Tota, manga AND Databook say so. He is right, although he went about it wrong. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:00, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Eh, Sajuuk, Sharingan91 is actually correct, Dust Release is not a Kekkei Genkai. It's categorized as one because the infobox template automatically does so (it only discerns between KKG and KKM) and since this article includes everything from the KKG category, it includes Dust Release as well. I would change the infobox template, but I think you've more knowlegde on that topic, so please go ahead. :) • Seelentau 愛 16:43, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I don't have the level of knowledge to fix that, sorry. You could ask UltimateSupreme though. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 16:51, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
@Sajuuk, Talkpages serve to discuss and improve the pages. Mine was just a suggestion.--Sharingan91 (talk) 17:51, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Your suggestions are welcome, but with the exclamation mark, should and must it sounded more like a command though.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 18:18, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
This. Seriously, tone it down a little, please. Because it does indeed look like demands/commands and whatnot. WS7125[Mod]WindStar7125 TaskWindStar7125's Task 18:21, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Yes, read the messages of the others carefully and learn from them. That way, you will see that none of them ever needed a command to support their opinion. Djfghdfe53475zdhdf (talk) 19:03, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Ok, nothing "must" and "!".--Sharingan91 (talk) 19:27, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
Fixed.--~UltimateSupreme 09:26, March 1, 2015 (UTC)