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:: Except they HAVE word for dimension - 次元. Also, Black Zetsu called Kaguya's hub space as the first(/starting) ''spherical'' space. A spherical space sounds like a planet, so you're wrong again.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 10:17, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
 
:: Except they HAVE word for dimension - 次元. Also, Black Zetsu called Kaguya's hub space as the first(/starting) ''spherical'' space. A spherical space sounds like a planet, so you're wrong again.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 10:17, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::次元 refers to the mathematical ''dimension'', not to a dimension in the sense of another universe. Kurozetsu used the term ''Shikyū Kūkan'', which means ''Beginning Dimension''. 始球 is a term normally used in sports and describes the first pitch of a season, for example in baseball. Hence the ''ball'' Kanji. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:32, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::次元 refers to the mathematical ''dimension'', not to a dimension in the sense of another universe. Kurozetsu used the term ''Shikyū Kūkan'', which means ''Beginning Dimension''. 始球 is a term normally used in sports and describes the first pitch of a season, for example in baseball. Hence the ''ball'' Kanji. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 10:32, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
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::::Native Japanese wouldn't agree with neither of your INTERPRETATIONS. Besides, multiverse is ALSO a mathematical term. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 10:40, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

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Quick Question

Not only is this page full of speculation, but when asked about it most decided against making this an article. So in comes the question. Why, exactly, is this here?? ---Marc Zaddy (talk) 02:20, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Because of the official Viz Translation. Read the talk page in Talk: Once Again. -- KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 02:38, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Carry on.---Marc Zaddy (talk) 02:27, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Dimensions

Are we completely certain that all these locations are the same dimension? The last page of chapter 682 says that Sasuke is in a different dimension on every translation I've read. I mean, I can't read Japanese, so I can't check raws or whatever, but the translation seems widely accepted. Atrix471 (talk) 11:09, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Probably not the same per say, but under the same umbrella of "Kaguya's Dimensions".--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol (talk) 11:11, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
Right. It feels like I'm watching Doctor Who with all this confusing time and space stuff... Atrix471 (talk) 11:14, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
No they're the same dimension, as confirmed by Kakashi this chapter. The desert is probably a far off location within it. Cuz, ya' know, it is an entire dimension. -- KotoTalk Page-My Contributions 11:15, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

We have to move this page to "Kaguya's Dimensions" since it's confirmed today we have 6 dimensions including the one where Kaguya and Naruto fought according to Kuro Zetsu's statement. —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 15:05, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

I suppose. Interesting that there are 6--Elveonora (talk) 15:01, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

There's a mistake in the article. The dimension Sasuke is in is not the one Obito and Sakura are in right now. Look at the pictures and read the dialogue to check me on this. The one obito is in doesn't have sand. MangekyoSasuke (talk) 20:44, July 9, 2014 (UTC)


Crazy Theory

Something's been bothering me about the way Kaguya interacts with her dimensions, so I've devised a little theory. Feel free to ignore it.

So, we have two techniques: and Space–Time Portal. After the revelation that there are six dimensions, rather than a singular, malleable dimension, it occurred to me that - on paper - these techniques do basically the same thing... but what if the original hypothesis was still correct, alongside the new one? What if Dimensional Shifting is able to immediately enter the dimensions and instantaneously shift the dimension Kaguya currently inhabits , while the Space–Time Portal allows Kaguya to travel, or send people, around or between the six? That would mean that all six are completely malleable and that the lava and ice worlds were actually the same dimension. This could not only explain why Kaguya seems to have a preference for using the Space–Time Portal to send individual people through dimensions, but also go to explain why Kaguya required the Rinnegan for one technique, but not the other. One is simple travel, the other is complete alteration.

So youre thinking that she transformed the volcano space into ice land with Dimensional Shifting? Possible, but why would she need 6 different dimensions then? She could just use one if shes able to alter them to that extent. I think the only thing shifting did to alter a dimension was manipulating the ice to capture Naruto and Sasuke. --Transcendency (talk) 12:44, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Well that's a possibility as well, but like I said: 'crazy theory'. --Atrix471 (talk) 13:00, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

A theme?

When I saw the second dimension was ice after the lava, I started to think the theme of the dimensions are related advanced natures. The sand threw me but I suspect if I'm right it would be Magnet release dimension and with there being a sea of acid it only furthers my suspicion. Am I just crazy or does anyone else see this as a possibility? Arrancar79 (talk) 22:52, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

You are seeing too much into that. There's just 6 dimensions, but more advanced natures--Elveonora (talk) 22:56, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Dimensions

As I know, the word "dimension" in Japanese wasn't used even once, all time it's just "space", which could refer to anything, for example, planets. Faust-RSI (talk) 07:58, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

That's because there is no word for "dimension" in Japanese. They use 空間 kūkan, which means empty space and can not refer to planets. • Seelentau 愛 08:59, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
Except they HAVE word for dimension - 次元. Also, Black Zetsu called Kaguya's hub space as the first(/starting) spherical space. A spherical space sounds like a planet, so you're wrong again.Faust-RSI (talk) 10:17, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
次元 refers to the mathematical dimension, not to a dimension in the sense of another universe. Kurozetsu used the term Shikyū Kūkan, which means Beginning Dimension. 始球 is a term normally used in sports and describes the first pitch of a season, for example in baseball. Hence the ball Kanji. • Seelentau 愛 10:32, July 23, 2014 (UTC)
Native Japanese wouldn't agree with neither of your INTERPRETATIONS. Besides, multiverse is ALSO a mathematical term. Faust-RSI (talk) 10:40, July 23, 2014 (UTC)