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== Kenjutsu ==
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== Secondary infobox image for edo tensei? ==
   
Shouldn't Itachi's [[kenjutsu]] skills be given a note, which were aptly displayed when he cut off [[Kabuto]]'s horn.[[Special:Contributions/188.140.178.3|188.140.178.3]] ([[User talk:188.140.178.3|talk]]) 20:32, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Does anyone else find it appropriate for characters who have been reincarnated? --[[User:M4ND0N|Mandon]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 06:20, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:Is it better to open a new discussion about putting another image in the infobox for the reincarnated characters like Itachi, Madara, Asuma and Zabuza? [[User:Shakhmoot|<choose><option>http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png</option></choose>]][[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sup>(Contact)</sup>]] 06:47, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
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::I don't really see the point, a reincarnated shinobi looks exactly the same as when they keeled over and pegged it, apart from the eyes, so it'd be pointless. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 06:49, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I knew this day was coming. It is not necessary to add pictures of what persons look like when they are reincarnated. The point of adding secondary images is for persons who have had significant changes in appearance i.e. the Konoha 11, Inari and even Tazuna, not for people who come back to like with cracked greyed skin and black irides. It isn't necessary.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 06:50, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
   
I think he has mastery with all ninja tools/weapons in general ... after all, ANBU wear Katanas and Uchiha are skilled in that area :P --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:52, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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== Orochimaru's statement ==
   
Besides ability sections are only created when a character either uses an ability on a regular basis or displays unusual variations of such. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 21:10, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Orochimaru may have said Itachi was stronger than himself, but had already been stripped of most of his powers by Hiruzen at that point, so wouldn't it be more valid to note that his statement came only after his loss of his arms? The Fox King(The Fox King 15:45, November 1, 2013 (UTC))
:A note possibly. Not that what he did to Kabuto's horn would warrant that note but since he's an Anbu he was more than likely trained in kenjutsu.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:17, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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:You are assuming that Orochimaru was taking into account his weakened state. We mention what was said and leave it at that without any concessions.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:04, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
Itachi hasn't done enough with a sword to warrant a section. Swinging a sword once and cutting off a horn isn't notable.--'''''[[User talk:Deva 27|Deva]] [[Special:Contributions/Deva 27|27]]''''' 21:35, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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He had just beforehand noted his weakened state and then he said that after they began to discuss Itachi. Its still not exactly valid to just have whats there. The Fox King(The Fox King 19:09, November 1, 2013 (UTC))
   
He massacred the whole clan using a sword "_" --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:40, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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He says Itachi is stronger than him because of their scuffle back when he left Akatsuki. He wasn't mentioning his weakened state. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 01:49, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
   
:Deva, have you completely forgotten about the Uchiha Clan Massacre?! He used a damn sword there! --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 21:43, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
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I said he mentioned his weakened state right before he said that, not during it, and he only said that after he lost his arms. His scuffle with Itachi hadn't been revealed yet and he didn't reference it, so therefore it seems more valid to at least note he had lost most of his power by the time he said Itachi was stronger than him. The Fox King(The Fox King 19:26, November 3, 2013 (UTC))
   
I agree we should include it. [[User:Slayersimon|Slayersimon]] ([[User talk:Slayersimon|talk]]) 10:59, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
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No need to. Him having lost his arms or not, he says himself Itachi is STRONGER than him, if he would of included his arms being lost he would of said something along the lines of "In my current state.. Itachi is stronger than me" but he didn't now did he? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 00:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
   
:What exactly would be added there? We know nothing of how he killed the members of the Uchiha clan using a sword with the exception of his parents and that's still a lot left to speculate there. There were also a ton of kunai and shuriken at the scene of the Massacre. All we've seen him do is block Kabuto's chakra scalpel with the sword. None of this is enough to give him his own section on kenjutsu.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:05, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
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: There's no real point of saying what he ''might have said '''if'''''. These are just manga characters, people, Kishi the brain behind them. Orochimaru said what he said, its not up for us to decide whether he meant with or without his arms. We just record what he said and take him at his word. That's all we, as readers, can do. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 02:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
   
== Method of defeating the Edo Tensei ==
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== Itachi and Kisame's first meeting ==
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Why is it that Itachi and Kisame's first meeting happened before the Uchiha Clan Massacre? In the chapter which was used as reference for that meeting, Kisame said that he had heard the rumours about Itachi slaughtering the Uchiha Clan. How could that have been if Itachi had yet to do it?--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 16:49, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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:Indeed, that's a mistake. Feel free to fix it. ^_^ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:46, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
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::Alright then. Done ^_^--[[User:JOA20|JOA20]] ([[User talk:JOA20|talk]]) 17:58, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
   
It is said in the intelligence section of Itachi's article it is written that "he seems to have found a method to defeat the [[Impure World Reincarnation]] altogether." But it was simply forcing the user to stop the technique. Either write as "he deduced a method" or remove it completely.[[Special:Contributions/37.41.182.143|37.41.182.143]] ([[User talk:37.41.182.143|talk]]) 11:48, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
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Not a mistake, just means Itachi may have simply been 13 when he joined Akatsuki and not 11 like people like to say. [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 22:32, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
"Itachi appears to have deduced a method of <s>defeating</s> countering the [[Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation]]"
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:Curious about this, which chapter is that?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:44, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
That is what was there prior to your post.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:53, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
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::He was 11, check my timeline~ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 09:45, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Nigete nigete... ==
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== Well ==
   
Is there a translation by ShounenSuki of Itachi's (imo coolest) words? Because the one in the article doesn't look correct to me... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:22, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
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I thought you guys might appreciate this. It seems he was 170cm tall at age 13... tall for Naruto age standards.
:"Forgive me Sasuke… …It ends with this." ?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:26, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::No no, the nigete-stuff. About Sasuke living a wretched life and all. It should be in the citate section, I think. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:42, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Uhm. I looked... and I don't see what you're talking about. o.o --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:48, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I mean the words he said to his brother after he killed his clan. ABout how Sasuke is not worth killing and should live a life in hate and such. It's in the text about Itachi's past, but not in the quotes-section. And it seems odd to me. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:02, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Oh. Though it'd been much easier if you just pasted the quote ( '-') y u no paste? If there isn't kanji and such with the quote it's unlikely it was gotten from Shounensuki.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:06, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::I was too lazy, sorry^^ But thanks, I think I'll ask him to translate it if he ever comes back~ [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:20, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'll leave the door on the latch, if you ever come back, if you ever come back♫ T_T. I've been meaning to reference his quotes for a while now either way.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:22, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
Here are the Kanji and rōmaji, if you need them: 貴様など…殺す価値も無い。…愚かなる弟よ……。このオレを殺したくば、恨め!憎め!そして みにくく生きのびるがいい………。…逃げて逃げて…生にしがみつくがいい。, ''Kisama nado… Korosu kachi mo nai. …Orokanaru otōto yo…… Kono ore o koroshitakuba, urame! Nikume! Soshite, minikuku ikinobiru ga ii……… …Nigete nigete… Sei ni shigamitsuku ga ii.'' :) [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:30, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
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13yr old Itachi
::Done.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:41, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2013/11/kaisou.jpg
   
== Izanagi ==
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Edo Tensei Itachi
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http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2013/11/itachi1.jpg
   
I think we should include Izanagi to Uchiha Itachi Jutsu because The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. and He reached the point where he could even make use of one of the Uchiha clan's ultimate dōjutsu, Izanami, and had knowledge of its counterpart, Izanagi. what to you think guys? [[User:Slayersimon|Slayersimon]] ([[User talk:Slayersimon|talk]]) 10:55, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
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[[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 02:36, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
:No. He's never used it.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:06, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
@ Cerez365 Yes my friend he never seen used it because he dont have to. but the knowledge in the jutsu of Izanami to counter Izanagi and the details in explaining inch by inch say he can do the jutsu as explained to manga 587. there for he can also use it so we must include it to uchiha itachi jutsu. [[User:Slayersimon|Slayersimon]] ([[User talk:Slayersimon|talk]]) 12:54, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
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Seems Sasuke was 140cm at age 8 too lol.. Naruto was only 142 at age 10-11. Poor Naruto [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 22:29, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
:It is more than likely that he can use it. Just as how it is more than likely that every Sharingan-wielder can use Izanagi and Izanami. However, Itachi has never '''used''' the technique only spoken about it so he cannot be listed as a user. Information that was more than likely passed down through the clan.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:56, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
By this logic, we would have to list Sasuke Uchiha as a user of Izanagi too because he essentially knows the ins and outs of the technique. Just because a user knows the technique and how it works doesn't mean it is a part of their arsenal. Besides that, I believe the site has a very strict "we have to see it to believe it" policy when it comes to adding techniques to lists. [[User:Gojinn|Gojinn]] ([[User talk:Gojinn|talk]]) 00:06, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== Image change ==
   
I believe to be able to use the Izanagi the wielder needs both Uchiha(which of course he has) and Senju DNA. and I dont think it says anywhere that Itachi has Senju DNA. [[Special:Contributions/71.48.214.128|71.48.214.128]] ([[User talk:71.48.214.128|talk]]) 13:11, June 4, 2012 (UTC) NaruFan
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I think the image that was just uploaded of Itachi with his Sharingan deactivated would be a good photo replacement, it looks better in imo [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 03:36, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
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:Itachi spent the majority of his time with the Sharingan activated, it's much more usual appearance for him. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:22, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Kotoamatsukami ==
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== Add to Legacy. ==
   
i think we should also include this to itachi's jutsu as explained to manga 587. [[User:Slayersimon|Slayersimon]] ([[User talk:Slayersimon|talk]]) 12:56, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
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I feel as if we should place something about Kabuto in his legacy. Mostly how because of Itachi, Kabuto came to realize his place in the shinobi world. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 05:37, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
:He meant use it on Sasuke in the same manner he used it on himself, through his crow. It still only makes him an indirect user of the technique.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:57, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
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:I guess so.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:10, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Quote - 587 ==
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== "second eyebrows" ==
   
I think we should add his quote to Sasuke asserting his imperfection, that was a good one :P [[User talk:Aditya sasuke|'''akz!''']] [[File:ANBU Symbol.svg|10px]] 16:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
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Just noticed he has them painted, shouldn't it be mentioned?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
== Moniker revisited ==
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Wait.. what? [[User:ItachiWasAHero|ItachiWasAHero]] ([[User talk:ItachiWasAHero|talk]]) 16:33, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
I know that people can generally call themselves [village's] and their name but Itachi insists on calling himself that on more than one occasions. So I think it might actually be a moniker granted that what he called himself the first time and as of chapter 588 are the same thing. Thoughts? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:59, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/486x375q90/31/7ez2.png
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:those red things are his actual eyebrows, while that where the blue is I suppose is drawn? And yes, this isn't a late April, I'm serious--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:52, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Well, he did kill his whole clan to save the leaf village so I'm sure he would want to be known as a konoha ninja. It seems a little overdone to me to call him that, like if we called Sasuke 'avenger' just because that's what he calls himself, you know? [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 23:26, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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::Those are his eyelids. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 23:02, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
::Ah, but it's all in the way they say it. The way Sasuke says it isn't "I'm Avenger", Itachi's called himself "Konoha's Itachi Uchiha" twice. There seems to be meaning behind it to me at least.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:45, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:::Are you sure? Eyelids end where the eyelashes do, or not? Those lines are above the eyes--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:13, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
@Cerez365 ??!!? {{unsigned|222.127.46.146}}
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::::: Sweety, google eyelids. You forget where eyelids "begin". --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 23:34, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
:It's all about the way things are said. Sasuke said he was <u>an</u> avenger not [the] "avenger". One's a classification the other can be used as a moniker. But never mind this as Itachi refers to himself as "Konoha's Itachi Uchiha" in one instance and then "Konohagakure's Itachi Uchiha" so since it's not fixed then it isn't really moniker notable.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:25, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Blind? ==
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Okay then ._. why aren't all characters then drawn that way?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:36, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Because not all characters look the same. That's just where the skin from his eyelids "fold". Kinda like an expression line. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:41, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
At the time of Itachi's death his eyesight was very poor, in fact he could barely see at all. But Impure World Resurrection is supposed to endlessly regenerate the body. Does that include eyesight? If so, when Itachi uses Izanami, does his eye even lose sight at all? And even if it did couldn't he destroy the eye altogether and let it regenerate? And if he could do that then what's to stop the resurrected Madara from using Izanagi/Izanami as many times as he wants? Anyway, not expecting any answers, just throwing ideas around. [[Special:Contributions/76.197.13.64|76.197.13.64]] ([[User talk:76.197.13.64|talk]]) 18:56, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
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There are actually many types of eye shapes, such as hooded and etc. This creates a different looking eyelid, which is what Itachi has. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 23:50, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks for explanation both of you then.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:55, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
   
:Edo Tensei is suppose to resurrect someone the exact same way they were before they died (Which is why Nagato looked older). Apparently Itachi wasn't quite as blind as we thought. As for jutsus, they still affect the dead body the same way they would have if they were alive so Itachi will stay blind in that one eye. [[User_Talk:Joshbl56|<span style="color:green;">Joshbl56</span>]] 19:08, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
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== Kakashi ==
::It is possible that was was happening to Itachi was just temporary from the extended use. Kinda like severe eye-strain somewhat like what Neji went through just that with them, it get's terrible and then better, but doesn't go back to being perfect. It's really one of those things that Kishimoto would have to answer. As for using Izanagi and Izanami, Itachi's eye is still blind, I don't think that would change even if the eye was destroyed and regenerated, that doesn't make the eye brand new just reverts it to the state it was in prior to being destroyed. Or else Nagato could've destroyed his legs and got new ones.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:57, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
You guys do realize that Edos are still susceptible to the drawbacks of their own techniques, right? and his Splitting and Capt'n Awesome and his Steamboy are examples. There's no doubt this would be for keeps. Edo Tensei only regenerates physical blows anyway, as in destroyed body parts. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 06:01, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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*Some of the references show that Kakashi took care of Itachi in anbu, but they are using the manga which didn't really show anything like that or Kakashi and Itachi having much of a relationship... wasn't that only in the filler arc? so shouldn't those references from the anime be shown as ref from the anime rather than incorrectly shown to be from the manga?--[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 19:26, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
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:Feel free to correct such blasphemy where you see it. People mixing up canon with non-canon is getting a little too overboard...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:34, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
== Legacy section ==
 
 
since Itachi came back as a character for reals, shouldn't the Legacy section be integrated before the World War section?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:10, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:No. Edo Tensei is essentially a temporary resurrection. It only binds hiis soul to the Impure World so long as the technique is active. It doesn't change the fact that Itachi is still dead and his body is decaying. Plus he's about to end the technique. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 05:58, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Genjutsu Abilities ==
 
 
Genjutsu abilities under skills section. I see Ninjutsu and Taijutsu prowess but not genjutsu. Seems strange seeing as how he's the most proficient genjutsu user in the series.{{unsigned|12.53.193.5}}
 
:That information should be present under his [[Sharingan]] section. No use repeating the same information twice.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:28, June 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Infobox Image ==
 
 
I think Itachi Uchiha Infobox needs a new, and refurbished image. I don't think the current image is a very good image. [[User:WeAreTheAkatsuki|WeAreTheAkatsuki]] ([[User talk:WeAreTheAkatsuki|talk]]) 21:57, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Why? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:01, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
::No reason whatsoever to change it. Unless you can find a suitable image to use from the original Naruto that would suffice, then post it here but the image won't change. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 22:02, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Below-Average Chakra Levels ==
 
 
Where does it say that he had below-average chakra levels? It used to say that I know but someone got rid of it thankfully. Honestly the reason he had below-average chakra levels was because of his illness. It was never stated in the manga or anime though so why did people put it in the first place instead of just "his illness"?--[[User:BlackGhost91|BlackGhost91]] ([[User talk:BlackGhost91|talk]]) 02:55, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Look at his stats, 2.5 for stamina ... that's really low, especially for Jounin level or in his case even higher. We don't know if it was due to his illness or not (unless manga or databook stated as such) but if you compare it to Ninja around his age and skill, he really has below average chakra levels. Kakashi was directly stated to have low stamina, and he has 3 ^_^ --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:31, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I kinda agree with BlackGhost. There's never been an "average" for stamina ever stated. Kurenai is a jōnin and her stamina level is 2 yet her article doesn't state that she has "below-average" levels of stamina. I don't think it's important that it's mentioned that it's below average since it's more than likely a direct cause of his illness. Take Hiruzen for example, only his physical-related stats have waned since his old age (well that's me assuming). Also Itachi's rank is ANBU.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:53, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Kakashi was noted to have low stamina and he is 3. That's the only reason I wrote the above :P And that's not an assumption, since stats can increase by training - they can wane by advanced age ... what supports this is the statement that Hiruzen's chakra level has dropped ... maybe he had 5/5 in his prime. Also I was talking about Itachi as a Jounin power wise ... Naruto and Sasuke are almost/if not more Kage level and they are technically genin--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:22, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
: However, what they are stating, and making a very valid point at, is that there is not an "average" chakra level ever demonstrated in the series. Each character has varying degrees of chakra and the databooks are so far apart that the stats are rarely an accurate portrayal of the character's abilities beyond the point in the manga the databook in question covers. In fact, your statement itself is contradictory. You say that Itachi has low chakra for an "average" Jōnin, however, the only other Jōnin that has really had his chakra commented on in great detail is Kakashi and his was also low. Chakra is not bigger or otherwise just because a person is a certain rank, as shown by both Naruto and Sasuke. There is no "average" chakra for a certain rank, or for ninja in general. Chakra levels are unique to the ninja in question and his or her abilities. Rewording the statement to saying "Itachi has unusually low chakra", with a few examples following, removes the below-average statement while acknowledging that Itachi does, in fact, have low chakra. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 10:20, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah, what you said. EDIT: Sasuke was stated to have more chakra and mastery for a genin of his age for example. Not rank-wise but power-wise, Itachi was Kage level or more, and 2.5 is still low chakra level when compared to Kakashi's 3 that's also low--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:21, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Currently, the whole "low stamina" thing on the page is a non-sequitor. It's a stand-alone sentence that doesn't fit with the rest of the paragraph. Can someone add in examples from the manga? Also, correlation does not mean causation. It is very possible Itachi has naturally low stamina, even without the disease. Also, instead of using the databooks to compare between two shinobi, I think it is better to compare their stats relative to themselves. That said, a 2.5 standing among 4s and 5s is worth noting.--[[User:Formerly140|Formerly140]] ([[User talk:Formerly140|talk]]) 20:27, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Like I've tried to explain before, illness is always directly correlated with low "energy" or stamina if you will especially one that is terminal. Stamina as we've seen, is something that can be expanded/increased through training, case in point Kakashi Hatake. I don't know why, in this specific case, people would believe that the two are totally unrelated.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:35, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
::If one notices his battles, he doesn't last much long...the fact that up to three uses of his MS left him in the gutter, in terms of stamina/chakra, stands to point the Itachi's (sole) weak point is his chakra levels, which while i agree to the whole removal of ''below average stamina'' it's a fact that from what was shown Itachi isn't capable of going on a long duration fight. Now we don't know when he contracted his disease or how much he was affected but chakra-wise, in terms of amount/power is his Aquille's Heel. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 20:45, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Kakashi is an interesting example. He has naturally low stamina, right? But he also has a sharingan that's constantly sucking away at his chakra. Can we say Kakashi ONLY has low stamina, because of the sharingan? No. Likewise, with Itachi, I'm very sure the disease has some effect on Itachi's stamina, along with his strength, speed/reflexes, etc, etc. I'm never saying his disease is unrelated with his abilities. I'm simply saying, you may be overlooking the fact that even without a disease making his stamina low, it may be naturally low to begin with. [[User:Formerly140|Formerly140]] ([[User talk:Formerly140|talk]]) 20:46, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
::But here's the thing or things: first due to him being a non-Uchiha, Kakashi's Shraingan sucks up even more chakra than it would on an Uchiha, which was noted that with enough training was negilable. Maybe his stamina/chakra is mediocre but his sharingan is or was a major factor to it. Itachi on the other hand, due to the fact that the details of his illness are non-existant, we don't how much he was affected by it. Maybe your right, maybe not, but the fact is that the details are few and far-between. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 20:58, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::Not naturally low or low at all. We don't know what kind of stamina Kakashi had except that he says it's not anywhere on Sasuke or Naruto's level. However he was able to train or whatever and is now able to use the Sharingan related techniques for extended periods of time. That being said, there is no way for us to know whether or not he would have low stamina sans the illness, because simply put, he was ill so it cannot be counted as a non-factor. To address the recent post, how do you know it isn't a case where people who wield dōjutsu just naturally have more chakra to wield the eye? Because that's never been explained to us, and I don't know whether or not the eye recognises "my host is not an Uchiha, so i'll suck more chakra from them to work".--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:04, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Well at least that's what's stated in Kakashi's page, that due to the fact that he is not of Uchiha blood, his Sharingan costs him more chakra to use, plus i do remember a similar mention in the earlier chapters of the series. It does make sense since he's wielding a KK that's not natural to him so he's bound to deal with some backlash. Now in regards to Itachi, it's what i've said before, given how we don't know when or how he contracted his disease or the full extent of the symptoms we don't know if his stamina was low before or due to it, only that his is lower than most other characters. [[User:Darksusanoo|Darksusanoo]] ([[User talk:Darksusanoo|talk]]) 21:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::: Yes, we don't know if Itachi has naturally low stamina, but it IS a possibility. And I think saying "he has low stamina" is much more neutral and unbiased than saying "his low stamina was a result of his illness." That makes me think Itachi would have a 5 in stamina if he didn't have an illness. He may very well have a 3.5 or a 4 in stamina without the disease, which, relative to himself, is still low. Another reason I don't want a causal link between his stats and his disease is that then we can argue his other stats are affected by the disease as well. Such as, "his 4.5 in taijutsu and 3.5 in strength are also a result of his illness, and thus should be much higher." [[User:Formerly140|Formerly140]] ([[User talk:Formerly140|talk]]) 21:20, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Chapter 590==
 
 
Just a question: did he really called "Madara" by the name of Tobi? If so, that means he doesn't believe Tobi is Madara Uchiha like he said before fighting Sasuke? [[User:Rubião|Rubião]] ([[User talk:Rubião|talk]]) 23:46, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
In the translation I read he never said his name at all. He just said that he knew about him and that he knew he wanted revenge against the Uchiha clan. -[[User:EriHonjo|EriHonjo]] ([[User talk:EriHonjo|talk]]) 11:16, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
No. In the translation I read Itachi said "Tobi". This was right before he showed his memory to Sasuke. --[[User:Rubião|Rubião]] ([[User talk:Rubião|talk]]) 20:21, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
That's a wrong translation. They met for the first time in that scene, there is no way in the hell he could know his "name" at that point--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:36, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
The only mention of the name "Tobi" that I saw was when Itachi said "Tobi and Danzō were right". And no that doesn't have to mean that he believes Tobi isn't Madara. It could have just become force of habit but we never know. Itachi was brilliant after all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:48, June 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Editing Itachi's page? ==
 
 
When in the editing page, a notification came up that said Itachi's page was locked and I may not be able to edit it? Are only certain people allowed to edit his page or something? -[[User:EriHonjo|EriHonjo]] ([[User talk:EriHonjo|talk]]) 11:19, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Only registered users can edit the page, you should be able to edit. -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]- 11:25, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Ok! Thanks so much!! :) -[[User:EriHonjo|EriHonjo]] ([[User talk:EriHonjo|talk]]) 11:29, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Nature Type ==
 
 
What happen to Itachi's Nature Type box? I dont see anything on it. is it an error? [[User:Slayersimon|Slayersimon]] ([[User talk:Slayersimon|talk]]) 11:54, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
its a bug.[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.224|71.71.58.224]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.224|talk]]) 12:33, July 5, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
 
 
==New Image==
 
I think this picture is better than the current one File:V.jpg --[[User:Azed|Azed]] ([[User talk:Azed|talk]]) 03:28, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:No, there's nothing wrong with the current one. -[[User:White Flash|<span style="color: #B0C4DE;">'''''White Flash'''''</span>]]-[[User talk:White Flash|<span style="font-size:90%; color: #B0C4DE">(Talk)</span>]]-
 
::Azed... What has Itachi ever done to you that was so bad?--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Cerez, that was really rude of you and it wasn't called for.
 
:::I agree we need a newish image but I don't have any of the DVD's with me to check for a better image. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 14:23, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
With the exception that he is facing the wrong way, (left instead of right) I see nothing that requires action.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:24, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Oh dear, I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way Azed, I was going for more of a [http://www.wackybuttons.com/designcodes/110/1102400.jpg whyyy thing] because the image looks so off-putting to me at least. Any way, I agree with the former, and see no issue with the image currently in his infobox, he looks absolutely regal v_v --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]
 
 
== crow kararimi ==
 
itachi uses some kind of technique in the games that turns him into a swarm of crows and then these crows gather forming his body again..could that be some kind of replacement or clone technique ?--[[Special:Contributions/177.33.242.192|177.33.242.192]] ([[User talk:177.33.242.192|talk]]) 01:44, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
:If for real, Crow Clone Technique, if not, just regular genjutsu. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:57, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== What's the point of this? ==
 
 
"Despite his own impressive abilities, Itachi never underestimated his opponents, given his praise of Jiraiya,[32] in which he noted to Kisame that if they fought him, they would either die or end in a tie." Shouldn't this be in the Personality section? It has nothing to do with Itachi's abilities. I mean, at this point we all know why Itachi said that. To protect the Leaf Village and its strongest Shinobi (Jiraiya).--{{unsigned|77.46.229.154}}
 
 
:* He was praised about his abilities by a Sanin- canon source of praise
 
:* Can fit into both personality and abilities- shows he's not overconfident
 
:* Not going to answer that last part because it's speculation that will lead to a never-ending discussion
 
:* Sign your posts.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:30, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Root==
 
Since he was commanded by [[Danzō Shimura|Danzō]] himself, doesn't that mean that [[Itachi Uchiha]] was a member of [[Root]].?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I don't think so, no. The series specifically stated that Itachi was a member of ANBU, which are under the direct control of the Hokage. Itachi and Danzō's meeting was in secrecy, wasn't it? He threatened Itachi and all that such, forcing Itachi to make a choice, if I remember correctly.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Not that we know of--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:01, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Abilities ==
 
I changed abilities back to incredibly powerful instead of just powerful. as lesser characters as stated in the manga (orochimaru admitting itachi is stronger) are described as being being extremely or very powerful.
 
 
it's only fair {{unsigned|Seretonin}}
 
 
All of which is already accounted for without the extra adjective. If Itachi's overall skills were less known, then it might be the case, but his skills have been quite detailed. Adding fluff when there's an already adequate amount of info will only make it look there's bias in the article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:36, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Again orochimaru who has showcased all of his skills both defeated and admitted he was weaker has the extra adjective. the same goes for kakazu who was pushed to his limits who gets a "very" and sasori again who gets an 'extremely' so the bias argument isn't valid as it was sated nagato and itachi were the strongest in madara's army.
 
 
also note i didn't add the adjective it was there before i just put it back.
 
{{unsigned|Seretonin}}
 
 
:I don't understand. If it can go for one like Itachi, why not go (or not) for everyone else. For me, it's either you add the extra adjective or you don't for everyone because each of those characters, mentioned directly or not, are ''extremely'' powerful.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I think my unease in adding adjectives to Itachi comes from those lengthy debates about his skill in regards to his illness, and the mythic wars I've seen on Itachi and Jiraiya. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Which is completley your problem, wiki readers should not have to suffer for your hang up, the 'extrodinarley' powerful orochimaru was still one paneled by a sick itachi.[[User:Seretonin|Seretonin]] ([[User talk:Seretonin|talk]]) 11:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
The only "extremely" powerful individuals are close-to-impossible-to-beat, like Madara for example. Powerful by itself means someone is very strong. From the dialogue, Itachi and Jiraiya were strong alike. But Itachi defeated Orochimaru, Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya, Nagato also defeated Jiraiya... you get the point. It's better to remove "an extremely" to avoid "versus" wars because such comparisons are hard to and shouldn't be made.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 02:43, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:sasori was 'extremely' powerful until i changed it. Orochimaru never defeated jiraya in the manga.[[User:Seretonin|Seretonin]] ([[User talk:Seretonin|talk]]) 11:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::You're quantifying a person's strength in the wrong way. Despite the fact that Orochimaru was "one-panelled" as you called it, that does not detract from the fact that he was an immensely powerful shinobi. In fact as I said before '''all''' the characters that have that adjective added to their articles have displayed immense power or what not. That is why I said, it's either we keep it for all of them, or none of them at all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::It would be easier to add it to Itachi rather than removing from everywhere.'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 15:51, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Well, Itachi INDEED was immensely powerful (he even stated to be the one to surpass Madara) but hinted that Jiraiya was equal to him, but then again, Jiraiya was inferior to Orochimaru and Orochimaru inferior to Itachi, so it kinda makes no sense. So the best way is to leave the word alone in most cases--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:57, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
: Jiraya never once was stated to be weaker or infereior than Orochimaru. and according to Kabuto every thing itachi said before his death was a lie. however orochimaru did directly state itachi was stronger then him being the only legitimate hype in your post[[User:Seretonin|Seretonin]] ([[User talk:Seretonin|talk]]) 21:08, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I believe we should get as close to fanservicing our characters as possible without o/ding or distorting information so I'd be all for that. Each character's abilities section, to me at least, should read like we're handing them an award. At least when possible.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:58, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:Sounds familiar (isn't that what I said?) ;) '''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 16:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:: and at that note i'm changing it back[[User:Seretonin|Seretonin]] ([[User talk:Seretonin|talk]]) 21:08, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Secondary infobox image for edo tensei? Edit

Does anyone else find it appropriate for characters who have been reincarnated? --Mandon (talk) 06:20, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Is it better to open a new discussion about putting another image in the infobox for the reincarnated characters like Itachi, Madara, Asuma and Zabuza? Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png(Contact) 06:47, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
I don't really see the point, a reincarnated shinobi looks exactly the same as when they keeled over and pegged it, apart from the eyes, so it'd be pointless. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 06:49, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
I knew this day was coming. It is not necessary to add pictures of what persons look like when they are reincarnated. The point of adding secondary images is for persons who have had significant changes in appearance i.e. the Konoha 11, Inari and even Tazuna, not for people who come back to like with cracked greyed skin and black irides. It isn't necessary.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 06:50, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Orochimaru's statement Edit

Orochimaru may have said Itachi was stronger than himself, but had already been stripped of most of his powers by Hiruzen at that point, so wouldn't it be more valid to note that his statement came only after his loss of his arms? The Fox King(The Fox King 15:45, November 1, 2013 (UTC))

You are assuming that Orochimaru was taking into account his weakened state. We mention what was said and leave it at that without any concessions.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 16:04, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

He had just beforehand noted his weakened state and then he said that after they began to discuss Itachi. Its still not exactly valid to just have whats there. The Fox King(The Fox King 19:09, November 1, 2013 (UTC))

He says Itachi is stronger than him because of their scuffle back when he left Akatsuki. He wasn't mentioning his weakened state. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:49, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

I said he mentioned his weakened state right before he said that, not during it, and he only said that after he lost his arms. His scuffle with Itachi hadn't been revealed yet and he didn't reference it, so therefore it seems more valid to at least note he had lost most of his power by the time he said Itachi was stronger than him. The Fox King(The Fox King 19:26, November 3, 2013 (UTC))

No need to. Him having lost his arms or not, he says himself Itachi is STRONGER than him, if he would of included his arms being lost he would of said something along the lines of "In my current state.. Itachi is stronger than me" but he didn't now did he? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 00:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

There's no real point of saying what he might have said if. These are just manga characters, people, Kishi the brain behind them. Orochimaru said what he said, its not up for us to decide whether he meant with or without his arms. We just record what he said and take him at his word. That's all we, as readers, can do. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 02:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Itachi and Kisame's first meeting Edit

Why is it that Itachi and Kisame's first meeting happened before the Uchiha Clan Massacre? In the chapter which was used as reference for that meeting, Kisame said that he had heard the rumours about Itachi slaughtering the Uchiha Clan. How could that have been if Itachi had yet to do it?--JOA20 (talk) 16:49, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, that's a mistake. Feel free to fix it. ^_^ Seelentau 愛 17:46, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
Alright then. Done ^_^--JOA20 (talk) 17:58, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Not a mistake, just means Itachi may have simply been 13 when he joined Akatsuki and not 11 like people like to say. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:32, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Curious about this, which chapter is that?--Elveonora (talk) 22:44, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
He was 11, check my timeline~ Seelentau 愛 09:45, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Well Edit

I thought you guys might appreciate this. It seems he was 170cm tall at age 13... tall for Naruto age standards.

13yr old Itachi http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2013/11/kaisou.jpg

Edo Tensei Itachi http://blog.pierrot.jp/wp-content/uploads/blog.pierrot.jp/2013/11/itachi1.jpg

ItachiWasAHero (talk) 02:36, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Seems Sasuke was 140cm at age 8 too lol.. Naruto was only 142 at age 10-11. Poor Naruto ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:29, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Image change Edit

I think the image that was just uploaded of Itachi with his Sharingan deactivated would be a good photo replacement, it looks better in imo ItachiWasAHero (talk) 03:36, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi spent the majority of his time with the Sharingan activated, it's much more usual appearance for him. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:22, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Add to Legacy. Edit

I feel as if we should place something about Kabuto in his legacy. Mostly how because of Itachi, Kabuto came to realize his place in the shinobi world. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 05:37, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

I guess so.--Elveonora (talk) 22:10, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

"second eyebrows" Edit

Just noticed he has them painted, shouldn't it be mentioned?--Elveonora (talk) 15:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Wait.. what? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:33, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

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those red things are his actual eyebrows, while that where the blue is I suppose is drawn? And yes, this isn't a late April, I'm serious--Elveonora (talk) 22:52, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Those are his eyelids. --Taynio (talk) 23:02, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Are you sure? Eyelids end where the eyelashes do, or not? Those lines are above the eyes--Elveonora (talk) 23:13, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Sweety, google eyelids. You forget where eyelids "begin". --Taynio (talk) 23:34, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Okay then ._. why aren't all characters then drawn that way?--Elveonora (talk) 23:36, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Because not all characters look the same. That's just where the skin from his eyelids "fold". Kinda like an expression line. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:41, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

There are actually many types of eye shapes, such as hooded and etc. This creates a different looking eyelid, which is what Itachi has. --Taynio (talk) 23:50, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for explanation both of you then.--Elveonora (talk) 23:55, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Kakashi Edit

  • Some of the references show that Kakashi took care of Itachi in anbu, but they are using the manga which didn't really show anything like that or Kakashi and Itachi having much of a relationship... wasn't that only in the filler arc? so shouldn't those references from the anime be shown as ref from the anime rather than incorrectly shown to be from the manga?--Deathmailrock (talk) 19:26, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
Feel free to correct such blasphemy where you see it. People mixing up canon with non-canon is getting a little too overboard...--Elveonora (talk) 19:34, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

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