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== Using Water Release Without a water source ==
 
Just cause he's a Water Release user, something we've known since part 1, it doesn't mean he's capable of using water release without water sources. It was just done to get Kabuto to experience the sensation of water dripping.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 06:06, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 
:Maybe so, but he did still stream the jutsu from his mouth without a nearby water source.--[[User:Minamoto15|Minamoto15]] ([[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]]) 10:00, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 
::Problem was that was not Itachi. That was Izanami Itachi. It was done for Kabuto to experience the sensation of experiencing a drip on him.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 15:49, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::I see what you're saying, but that still sounds like a bit of a stretch to me. You're phrasing it as if Izanami Itachi (as funny as that sounds) and reality Itachi are two different beings and I'm simply not seeing it unless there's a DB4 translation that explains in detail how Izanami works. I'll wait for other opinions.--[[User:Minamoto15|Minamoto15]] ([[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]]) 21:27, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::There's no reason to believe that Izanami Itachi does not have the same abilities as the real Itachi. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 17:35, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 
Do you mean the water dripping in the cave from that stalactite? it was not Itachi and the dripping sensation was in the time loop of Izanami so.. what does this have to do with water release?--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 17:47, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 
:Okay I checked it again and I think I got it, anyway the point is he was able to use [[Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique]]--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 18:02, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 
::The point is I don't really think we can say Itachi used Water Dragon without a water source since that wasn't actually Itachi doing it.[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 21:16, April 12, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Agreed with SnapperTwo. There really isn't any reason at all. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 21:35, April 12, 2015 (UTC)
 
   
== Hero or Villain ==
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== Quote ==
Does the 4th DB state if Itachi's name was ever cleared or did he remain in official history as a criminal?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 15:59, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
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I'm seeing around the internet a quote where Itachi said "No single thing is perfect by itself. That is why we attract others to make up for what we lack." What chapter is that from?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
 
:It's on #587, page 8. --[[User:SSJ2AJB|SSJ2AJB]] ([[User talk:SSJ2AJB|talk]]) 23:47, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
:Since nobody knows that he was the reason Edo Tensei was disabled, I would guess a villain. But, in our hearts at least, he is "A Hero from within the shadows", a fitting title for an ANBU, don't you agree?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 16:11, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 
::I like that @omojuze lel. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 16:44, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 
   
== Izanami sealed Itachi's Susanoo use. ==
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== Itachi blocking Kirin ==
   
His spirit retained the damage Izanami made to his eye, robbing him of one of his Mangekyo. Without two Mangekyo, Susanoo can't be manifested. Thus if Itachi was ever brought back, he'd be unable to use Susanoo.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:04, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
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I don't think it should be added since it contradicts previous feats, we didn't see him actually block it, and finally we don't add stuff like 'Kakashi cutting a lightning bolt in half' to his article despite being have said to have done so.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:19, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
:Itachi's two eyes are in Sasuke's possesion now so? and he used Izanami in edo tensei form, also Madara was able to use Susanoo without eyes, this could mean the eyes are not required at all after first activation of two mangekyou but that's just speculation on my part. Also there are instances where Itachi didn't activate Mangekyou while using Susanoo. I think the point you were adding is irrelevant in the article, we write down what has happened in manga, we can't say for sure what will happen, if he were brought back and if we see his one eye white we could assume that he is not capable of using it but that doesn't happen look at Madara.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 19:38, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 
:: Then why did his spirit still possess the same handicap when Edo Tensei was cancelled? Madara's eyes still physically existed, they weren't destroyed or sealed, so he could use them to create his Susanoo from afar. Those are art errors for Itachi that were corrected in the tankobon releases, Mecha Naruto. The manga made it clear, two Mangekyo are needed to awaken and maintain Susanoo, take away one of those Mangekyo permanently, no more Susanoo. Thus if Itachi was ever brought back he'd be unable to use Susanoo. It was the sacrifice that was needed to defeat Kabuto.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 19:47, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 
::: His spirit? The source you mentioned (chapter 591 page 1, if I'm not mistaken) doesn't clearly show if his spirit still has the left eye blind. In the panel at the top, Itachi is still in his Edo Tensei body. The lower left panel of the same page is the one that shows Itachi's soul ascending, and it's a little too far to see his left eye clearly (in the anime, both of his eyes weren't blind in that instance). But all of this is a "maybe" and "who knows": speculative.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA20]]19:59, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Question; how does any of this affect Itschi's article? —[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:11, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha?diff=1047692 SSM tried adding it to the article.] From this and other edits, I get the sense he uses the wiki to settle debates he has elsewhere. If so, I ask he stop doing that. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 15:55, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 
   
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We should add the Kakashi feat to his page, and the Kirin feat to Itachi's page. They happened. They are fact. We list what each character has done and said to have done. You're literally the ONLY person who doesn't want those feats added. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:22, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
== Image ==
 
Sarutobii2 recently [[:File:Itachi.png|uploaded a new picture]] for Itachi and I'm actually liking the new one better. Should we use it in the infobox? --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 10:46, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
:I think its far better. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 10:59, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeah, this one's better in my opinion.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 11:17, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::The lack of active Sharingan bothers me. Itachi had them active pretty much all the time. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:52, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
I like it a lot, but there is 2 problems.. one is that he is 15 here... and the other is like Omnibender says.. Itachi almost has his Sharingan activated 24/7 and it is not activated here. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 16:01, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
:A picture of his Sharingan is already on the article, so it's not really necessary to have the infobox prominently feature it imo. Sasuke was shown with a Sharingan active most of the time in Shippuden, yet his ibox picture has a pic with them not active. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|contribs]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 16:10, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
::Sasuke wasn't shown with his Sharingan active nearly as much as Itachi. Sasuke usually has them active during fights, but not during idle times, unlike Itachi. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:15, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Do we really need an infobox picture of him with his Sharingan active in the infobox though?--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 17:34, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
::For most Uchiha, we have their infobox picture with their regular eyes. The only known exceptions are ones like Shisui and Izuna, who were never shown with their Sharingan deactivated. --[[User:NeedleJizo|Jizo 悟]] ([[User talk:NeedleJizo|talk]]) 17:35, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Because that's how they were shown most of the time. With Itachi, most to the time it was with active Sharingan. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:48, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Madara was shown with an active Sharingan/Rinnegan almost exclusively (outside of flashbacks), yet his infobox picture shows him without them. --[[User:NeedleJizo|Jizo 悟]] ([[User talk:NeedleJizo|talk]]) 00:11, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 
   
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:Except we didn't see either. We can't say HOW they happened, and it contradicts other things dude. And no, I'm not the only one QuakingStar. You're acting like its a personal insult not to put Itachi at the highest level of things.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:26, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
Jizo is right. just add it then guys. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 00:34, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 
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Doesn't matter, he blocked it. Only thing that happened was his cloak was incinerated, that's it. It should be added. Also Gai said Kakashi CUT the lightning bolt, and why would he lie about that?? Doesn't matter the timeline it was done/said they are character feats and they go in the ability sections of said characters. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:35, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
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: It kind of does matter. We need to know how on top of wen. All we have for Itachi is 'why' but not how he did it. Not only that, how is using a jutsu which is basically raising a shield in place impressive to mention? And we're also looking into the fact Sasuke talked on and on and on, more than enough time for Itachi to get ready, it wasn't like Kirin was dropped automatically.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 02:38, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
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Itachi was almost blind, Sasuke never mentioned the tech, Itachi wasn't even using Susanoo when the attack was unleashed. Therefor Sasuke talking and the time between its unleash are irrelevant Why is also irrelevant since Itachi himself said he used Susanoo to block it saying he would have died otherwise. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 02:47, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
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== Chakra Reserves ==
 
How can we say for sure his natural reserves were low?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 01:14, March 9, 2016 (UTC)
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: Since when he was healthy in Part I? He had only three uses of the Mangekyo Sharingan before he needed significant rest and couldn't even maintain his Sharingan.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 00:05, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

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I'm seeing around the internet a quote where Itachi said "No single thing is perfect by itself. That is why we attract others to make up for what we lack." What chapter is that from?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 23:18, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

It's on #587, page 8. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 23:47, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Itachi blocking Kirin

I don't think it should be added since it contradicts previous feats, we didn't see him actually block it, and finally we don't add stuff like 'Kakashi cutting a lightning bolt in half' to his article despite being have said to have done so.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:19, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

We should add the Kakashi feat to his page, and the Kirin feat to Itachi's page. They happened. They are fact. We list what each character has done and said to have done. You're literally the ONLY person who doesn't want those feats added. QuakingStar (talk) 02:22, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Except we didn't see either. We can't say HOW they happened, and it contradicts other things dude. And no, I'm not the only one QuakingStar. You're acting like its a personal insult not to put Itachi at the highest level of things.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:26, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, he blocked it. Only thing that happened was his cloak was incinerated, that's it. It should be added. Also Gai said Kakashi CUT the lightning bolt, and why would he lie about that?? Doesn't matter the timeline it was done/said they are character feats and they go in the ability sections of said characters. QuakingStar (talk) 02:35, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

It kind of does matter. We need to know how on top of wen. All we have for Itachi is 'why' but not how he did it. Not only that, how is using a jutsu which is basically raising a shield in place impressive to mention? And we're also looking into the fact Sasuke talked on and on and on, more than enough time for Itachi to get ready, it wasn't like Kirin was dropped automatically.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:38, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Itachi was almost blind, Sasuke never mentioned the tech, Itachi wasn't even using Susanoo when the attack was unleashed. Therefor Sasuke talking and the time between its unleash are irrelevant Why is also irrelevant since Itachi himself said he used Susanoo to block it saying he would have died otherwise. QuakingStar (talk) 02:47, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Chakra Reserves

How can we say for sure his natural reserves were low?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:14, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Since when he was healthy in Part I? He had only three uses of the Mangekyo Sharingan before he needed significant rest and couldn't even maintain his Sharingan.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 00:05, March 18, 2016 (UTC)