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== Facial markings ==
 
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I understand now thanks guys and that was a silly mistake I made --<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999|Jean Daichou]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 21:07, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
I understand now thanks guys and that was a silly mistake I made --<span style="color:CornflowerBlue;">[[User:Jmootam1999|Jean Daichou]][[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]]</span><span style="color:Indigo;">[[User talk:Jmootam1999|Loves Naruto]]</span> 21:07, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
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==Sensory type==
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Here Tenten says that the Byakugan can sense, so wouldn't this mean Neji and other hyugas like Hinata are sensory types?[[User:Yahyanime|Yahyanime]] ([[User talk:Yahyanime|talk]]) 03:41, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
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: No. Seeing is a bodily sense. One of the six senses. He can see almost 360 degrees. That does not make him a sensor-type ninja in any sense of the term. ~ '''''[[User:Ten Tailed Fox|Ten Tailed Fox]]''''' [[File:Yamagakure Symbol.svg|14px|link=User talk:Ten Tailed Fox]] 03:59, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
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THe scan says that Neji uses the eyes to sense attacks, not see them [[User:Yahyanime|Yahyanime]] ([[User talk:Yahyanime|talk]]) 21:45, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
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:Ask yourself something: how can an eye sense in the manner you're talking about? They can see almost entirely around themselves therefore they can "sense" the attack as it would appear to onlookers. It's not being used in the way you're thinking.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:51, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
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Neji is not a sesor ok, he never used that ability even in times where he needed it. besides, sensors don't sense from their eyes lol, that's not how the technique works.--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 21:57, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
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==2nd Kekkai Genkai==
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Shouldn't the ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu in their body be listed as a kekkai genkai in the info box just as the Byakugan is. I really think it should, since the Uchiha have Sharingan and Mangekyo sharingan as separate KKG even though they are sorta the same thing.[[User:Yahyanime|Yahyanime]] ([[User talk:Yahyanime|talk]]) 21:47, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
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:While assumed to be so, it's never been called that so we can't speculate.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
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== Team Orochimaru third member ==
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Dosen't it seem like the third member of Team Orochimaru is a Hyuga, looks like it with his eyes. Judging from the latest anime episode (343). --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 21:37, December 19, 2013 (UTC)
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:I thought so too. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:45, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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SPECULATION my fellow narutopedia users [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 01:46, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec
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:Not really. In the manga we don't get a good look on him, but the anime makes it pretty clear that his eyes are all white with that close-up, meaning Byakugan, meaning Hyūga. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:57, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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He could have very well just been blind, don't speculate please. What we don't know for a fact we can't add [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 02:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec
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:Blind? That's a bit much. We can always think he's a Hyūga but it's be speculation to make mention of it. I personally don't think he's a Hyūga, anime colouring aside, he doesn't carry himself like a Hyūga in battle. His battle stance and even the fact that he's encumbered with tools raise flags for me.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 03:00, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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True but this isnt a Forum, cerez you should know better [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 03:09, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec
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: I would say that if you think this one is blind, then there are a lot other "hyuga's" who could be considered blind aswell. In chapter 451, you see one, he dosen't activate his byakugan but we still thought he was a hyuga. The same happens in chapters 451 and 504. --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 09:01, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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::Why don't we say "In the anime, it reveals that the third member is a Hyūga member..." or something like that? —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 11:07, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:::I also think he looks pretty Hyūga-ish, the light-purple eyes are enough proof in my opinion. No charcacter ever showed eyes like that, except for the Hyūga members. Also, I don't see him wearing tools other than some pouches and that's nothing new for an Hyūga, Hinata [[:File:Team three sealing.png|for]] [[:File:Hinata attacks Ten-Tails.png|example]] does it too. [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 11:36, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:: That sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Kasan94|Kasan94]] ([[User talk:Kasan94|talk]]) 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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I oppose this, he could barely be seen in manga. Unless the episode's credits listed him as a Hyuga or Studio Pierrot's blog says so, he isn't one--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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:Trivia: ''His eyes resemble that of a Hyūga, though it is unknown if he is a member of that clan.'' - should be fine. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:26, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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I added it in the [[Team Orochimaru]] trivia [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 14:42, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec
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Munchvtec, you keep throwing that "you should know better" around. Yes, talk pages are not forums, but they are about discussing how to list things in the articles. The episode provided new information about a character, and a topic about was opened to discuss if and how it should be listed. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:56, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
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What your not understanding is that nothing about the hyuga clan or the byakugan was mentioned about this character and yes you guys are long time users, you should know better. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 16:57, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec
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== Distant Relatives? ==
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Much like how the Gold and Silver brothers are noted as likely being distant relatives of Hagoromo, since Kaguya is known to have the Byakugan, should the Hyuuga be considered distantly related to her? I mean I know there's that whole thing where certain kekkei genkai (Magnet and Lava) don't have a clear genetic relation between users, but she is literally the only other user of the Byakugan who isn't notably a Hyuuga, or someone who carved out a Hyuuga's eye. At the very least there would seemingly be a strong chance given their prominence within Konoha, the rumour noted by Kakashi, and the seemingly exclusive use of the Byakugan by the clan as unlike Magnet and Lava release, only Ao is noted as being another user, and he notably removed that eye from someone else. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 10:21, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
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== Hiden ==
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I remember the Hyūga techniques being called Hiden some years ago in this wiki. What became of that? For example (in the new databook), [[Gentle Step Twin Lion Fists]] is classified as Taijutsu Kekkei Genkai, but it's called ''Hiden High Class Taijutsu of the Gentle Fist''. On the other hand, [[Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body]] is classified as Taijutsu Hiden, with no indication of being Kekkei Genkai. What do we do with that? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:26, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:Uses Byakugan = kkg, Byakugan not required = not kkg?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 19:23, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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::Yes, that's what I'm thinking, too. I also think we should add ''Hiden'' to all techniques that use it. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:37, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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:::Not sure. Think it was removed when a distinction was apparently made to separate kekkei genkai and hiden techs.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Eye of Rikudō.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:44, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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::::The distinction is that kekkei genkai (usually) need the genetic anomaly, while hiden are techniques that are taught in specific clans. Every Hyuga technique that expels chakra from the tenketsu is a hiden, but only those who also use the Byakugan are kekkei genkai, too. Hence Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body being hiden only: You don't need the Byakugan to expel chakra from your whole body. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:48, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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I guess Kishi uses the same logic here as with the raikiri rope that is listed as kkg presumably cause of sharingan--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:04, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
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== Bolt is not listed ==
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Bolt is not listed in the 'Known Members' while Himawari is. And he is considered to be part of the Hyuga clan in his page. Is there any particular reason he isn't listed here? [[User:TomPen94|TomPen94]] ([[User talk:TomPen94|talk]]) 15:54, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

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Facial markings Edit

Guys I'm sure that those facial markings on several Hyuga members signifies or means something, we could add this In the trivia maybe?--Jean DaichouAllied Shinobi Forces SymbolLoves Naruto 20:29, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

What facial markings? No Hyūga has ever been shown with facial markings.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 20:36, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Try looking closely at the picture In the Infobox the two members at the front seem to have marking on their cheeks, anyway maybe Its Irrelevant --Jean DaichouAllied Shinobi Forces SymbolLoves Naruto 20:41, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Not maybe, it's completely irrelevant. Your baseless topic would have more credibility if it was the manga image. No named Hyuga have facial markings--Elveonora (talk) 20:49, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

What is also completely irrelevant is that the image is not cannon and those are their jaw lines and not facial markings. Again, no Hyūga has ever been depicted with facial markings, I can assure you.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 20:56, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

I understand now thanks guys and that was a silly mistake I made --Jean DaichouAllied Shinobi Forces SymbolLoves Naruto 21:07, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

Sensory typeEdit

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Here Tenten says that the Byakugan can sense, so wouldn't this mean Neji and other hyugas like Hinata are sensory types?Yahyanime (talk) 03:41, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

No. Seeing is a bodily sense. One of the six senses. He can see almost 360 degrees. That does not make him a sensor-type ninja in any sense of the term. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol 03:59, July 6, 2013 (UTC)


THe scan says that Neji uses the eyes to sense attacks, not see them Yahyanime (talk) 21:45, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Ask yourself something: how can an eye sense in the manner you're talking about? They can see almost entirely around themselves therefore they can "sense" the attack as it would appear to onlookers. It's not being used in the way you're thinking.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 21:51, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Neji is not a sesor ok, he never used that ability even in times where he needed it. besides, sensors don't sense from their eyes lol, that's not how the technique works.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 21:57, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

2nd Kekkai GenkaiEdit

Shouldn't the ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu in their body be listed as a kekkai genkai in the info box just as the Byakugan is. I really think it should, since the Uchiha have Sharingan and Mangekyo sharingan as separate KKG even though they are sorta the same thing.Yahyanime (talk) 21:47, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

While assumed to be so, it's never been called that so we can't speculate.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 21:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Team Orochimaru third member Edit

Dosen't it seem like the third member of Team Orochimaru is a Hyuga, looks like it with his eyes. Judging from the latest anime episode (343). --Kasan94 (talk) 21:37, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

I thought so too. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

SPECULATION my fellow narutopedia users Munchvtec (talk) 01:46, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

Not really. In the manga we don't get a good look on him, but the anime makes it pretty clear that his eyes are all white with that close-up, meaning Byakugan, meaning Hyūga. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:57, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

He could have very well just been blind, don't speculate please. What we don't know for a fact we can't add Munchvtec (talk) 02:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

Blind? That's a bit much. We can always think he's a Hyūga but it's be speculation to make mention of it. I personally don't think he's a Hyūga, anime colouring aside, he doesn't carry himself like a Hyūga in battle. His battle stance and even the fact that he's encumbered with tools raise flags for me.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 03:00, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

True but this isnt a Forum, cerez you should know better Munchvtec (talk) 03:09, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

I would say that if you think this one is blind, then there are a lot other "hyuga's" who could be considered blind aswell. In chapter 451, you see one, he dosen't activate his byakugan but we still thought he was a hyuga. The same happens in chapters 451 and 504. --Kasan94 (talk) 09:01, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Why don't we say "In the anime, it reveals that the third member is a Hyūga member..." or something like that? —Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol (Talk) 11:07, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
I also think he looks pretty Hyūga-ish, the light-purple eyes are enough proof in my opinion. No charcacter ever showed eyes like that, except for the Hyūga members. Also, I don't see him wearing tools other than some pouches and that's nothing new for an Hyūga, Hinata for example does it too. Norleon (talk) 11:36, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea! --Kasan94 (talk) 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

I oppose this, he could barely be seen in manga. Unless the episode's credits listed him as a Hyuga or Studio Pierrot's blog says so, he isn't one--Elveonora (talk) 12:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Trivia: His eyes resemble that of a Hyūga, though it is unknown if he is a member of that clan. - should be fine. Seelentau 愛 12:26, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

I added it in the Team Orochimaru trivia Munchvtec (talk) 14:42, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

Munchvtec, you keep throwing that "you should know better" around. Yes, talk pages are not forums, but they are about discussing how to list things in the articles. The episode provided new information about a character, and a topic about was opened to discuss if and how it should be listed. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:56, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

What your not understanding is that nothing about the hyuga clan or the byakugan was mentioned about this character and yes you guys are long time users, you should know better. Munchvtec (talk) 16:57, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

Distant Relatives? Edit

Much like how the Gold and Silver brothers are noted as likely being distant relatives of Hagoromo, since Kaguya is known to have the Byakugan, should the Hyuuga be considered distantly related to her? I mean I know there's that whole thing where certain kekkei genkai (Magnet and Lava) don't have a clear genetic relation between users, but she is literally the only other user of the Byakugan who isn't notably a Hyuuga, or someone who carved out a Hyuuga's eye. At the very least there would seemingly be a strong chance given their prominence within Konoha, the rumour noted by Kakashi, and the seemingly exclusive use of the Byakugan by the clan as unlike Magnet and Lava release, only Ao is noted as being another user, and he notably removed that eye from someone else. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 10:21, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hiden Edit

I remember the Hyūga techniques being called Hiden some years ago in this wiki. What became of that? For example (in the new databook), Gentle Step Twin Lion Fists is classified as Taijutsu Kekkei Genkai, but it's called Hiden High Class Taijutsu of the Gentle Fist. On the other hand, Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body is classified as Taijutsu Hiden, with no indication of being Kekkei Genkai. What do we do with that? • Seelentau 愛 17:26, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Uses Byakugan = kkg, Byakugan not required = not kkg?--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 19:23, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I'm thinking, too. I also think we should add Hiden to all techniques that use it. • Seelentau 愛 19:37, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
Not sure. Think it was removed when a distinction was apparently made to separate kekkei genkai and hiden techs.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 19:44, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
The distinction is that kekkei genkai (usually) need the genetic anomaly, while hiden are techniques that are taught in specific clans. Every Hyuga technique that expels chakra from the tenketsu is a hiden, but only those who also use the Byakugan are kekkei genkai, too. Hence Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body being hiden only: You don't need the Byakugan to expel chakra from your whole body. • Seelentau 愛 19:48, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I guess Kishi uses the same logic here as with the raikiri rope that is listed as kkg presumably cause of sharingan--Elve [Moderator] Talk Page|Contribs 20:04, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Bolt is not listed Edit

Bolt is not listed in the 'Known Members' while Himawari is. And he is considered to be part of the Hyuga clan in his page. Is there any particular reason he isn't listed here? TomPen94 (talk) 15:54, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

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