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An unnecessary trivia point

I'm talking about this "According to Asuma Sarutobi, his student Shikamaru Nara has the ability to become Hokage, but won't due to him being too lazy to want to." i mean its just someone saying that someone else could be hokage if they tried, what made it deserve a place in the trivia?--Charmanking2198 (talk) 19:10, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

If Kakashi had been mentioned only once as having potential to be Hokage, he'd be mentioned, why not Shikamaru? It's in the trivia section, it relates to the subject of the article, while still not being vital to it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:14, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

No? kakashi was going to be appointed as the hokage for real, Shikamaru never even got close to it.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 19:35, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. But above everybody else in the series, Shikamaru was stated to have Hokage potential. A lot of people aspire to become Hokage, but not everyone has the potential to. That's why Kiba for example isn't listed as wanting to become Hokage (not that he doesn't have the potential) or what not.--Cerez365^™

^(talk) 19:38, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the stuff about people with potential to be Hokage is unnecessary, but I was thinking, we've listed several other people as having held the position, if only temporarily and the Trivia is running a bit long, so could I add a sub-section titled "Non-Canon Hokage" and throw in links to them with a short explanation, it might make the whole think look a bit neater. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 15:30, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Danzo's info

Can anyone edit some of Danzo's info? Instead of "He was later appointed as the official Sixth Hokage Candidate (六代目火影候補, Rokudaime Hokage Kōho) after Pain's invasion, but died before he officially entered the office of Hokage." Should be: "He was later appointed as the official Sixth Hokage Candidate (六代目火影候補, Rokudaime Hokage Kōho) after Pain's invasion, but died before he be approved by the jōnin of the village to become officially Hokage.Dragon NJMB (talk) 00:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

That sort of implies he would have been approved by the jōnin, which isn't necessarily the case. I don't see what's wrong with the current statement. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

To me, both state he was going to take office because he was approved. The first implies he was already approved, but just didn't make it back in time to officially take office. The second at least gives a slight notion to the idea that they had not voted him in yet. --Taynio (talk) 02:16, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Omnibender, this was extracted from the Hokage's article Overview: "...but if the old Hokage dies or is incapacitated before being able to do so, the Fire Daimyō will appoint a Hokage Candidate upon the recommendation of the Konoha council and the Fire Daimyō council. Afterwards, the candidate will need to be approved by the jōnin of the village to become officially Hokage. After being approved, they move into the Hokage Residence to live in and have their faces carved out in the monument behind it..." Dragon NJMB (talk) 21:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

"Enter office" there means exercise the position, not move into the Hokage's Residence. Saying he was a candidate already points out he had yet to officially become Hokage. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:29, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Meaning of Hokage

In Japanese, "hokage" means fire light. Although it is true that the letter "kage" normally means shadow, the meaning changes from shadow to light in specific combinations of kanjis. Other examples are tsukikage -> moonlight and hoshikage -> starlight. 220.100.22.39 (talk) 16:35, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 627

On the last panel of said chapter it says "The strongest soilders are ready"/ "The biggest of the big fish about to flex their might" (depending on your translation). Now I may be reading into it a little too much but does this confirm that Hokages 1-4 are among the strongest in history? Well actually the 2nd and 4th since 1st and 3rd are already considered among them. I'm just saying since Tobirama constantly fought evenly and eventually defeated Izuna (who was noted to be one of the greats among the Uchiha) and Minato is already considered one of the most gifted and on top both are arguably the strongest Kage of their generation. However like I said just very intense speculation. --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 18:11, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, Hokage are the strongest Kage. Save Tsunade of course. I mean:

Hashirama = god of shinobi
Tobirama = very powerful, inventor of modern ninjutsu basically (shadow clones, flying thunder god, edo tensei, possibly body flicker etc.), skilled with Suiton
Hiruzen = god of shinobi, mastered all Konoha techniques
Minato = young prodigy Hokage, one who can fight Orochimaru on equal ground despite the greater experience and bodily modifications of the latter

--Elveonora (talk) 19:10, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

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+== An unnecessary trivia point ==
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+I'm talking about this "According to Asuma Sarutobi, his student Shikamaru Nara has the ability to become Hokage, but won't due to him being too lazy to want to." i mean its just someone saying that someone else could be hokage if they tried, what made it deserve a place in the trivia?--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 19:10, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
+:If Kakashi had been mentioned only once as having potential to be Hokage, he'd be mentioned, why not Shikamaru? It's in the trivia section, it relates to the subject of the article, while still not being vital to it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:14, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
+No? kakashi was going to be appointed as the hokage for real, Shikamaru never even got close to it.--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 19:35, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
+:Yes. But above everybody else in the series, Shikamaru was stated to have Hokage potential. A lot of people aspire to become Hokage, but not everyone has the potential to. That's why Kiba for example isn't listed as wanting to become Hokage (not that he doesn't have the potential) or what not.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:38, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
+I don't think the stuff about people with potential to be Hokage is unnecessary, but I was thinking, we've listed several other people as having held the position, if only temporarily and the Trivia is running a bit long, so could I add a sub-section titled "Non-Canon Hokage" and throw in links to them with a short explanation, it might make the whole think look a bit neater. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 15:30, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
-''"His wife named Uzumaki Kushina with the red-long hair.- oleh COBEBUBE"'' What was that?
---[[User:Narutodude|Narutodude]] ([[User talk:Narutodude|talk]]) 04:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude
-:That was vandalism. When you see something like that, feel free to remove it..--[[User:AlienGamer|AlienGamer]]--[[User talk:AlienGamer|Talk]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/AlienGamer|contribs]])</sup>-- 07:03, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
+== Danzo's info ==
-I knew that. Just didn't know who did that. So I waited
---[[User:Narutodude|Narutodude]] ([[User talk:Narutodude|talk]]) 22:08, September 24, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude
+Can anyone edit some of Danzo's info?
-== Trivia ==
+Instead of "He was later appointed as the official Sixth Hokage Candidate (六代目火影候補, Rokudaime Hokage Kōho) after Pain's invasion, but died before he '''officially entered the office of Hokage'''."
+Should be: "He was later appointed as the official Sixth Hokage Candidate (六代目火影候補, Rokudaime Hokage Kōho) after Pain's invasion, but died before he '''be approved by the jōnin of the village to become officially Hokage'''.[[User:Dragon NJMB|Dragon NJMB]] ([[User talk:Dragon NJMB|talk]]) 00:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
+:That sort of implies he would have been approved by the jōnin, which isn't necessarily the case. I don't see what's wrong with the current statement. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
-Hiruzen himself says that there's a soul bound to Orochimaru's Edo Tensei technique that doesn't belong to those he resurrected, so the First and Second Hokage are obviously not trapped within the Death God, only Minato and the Third. [[User:Jules R. J. Blake|Jules R. J. Blake]] ([[User talk:Jules R. J. Blake|talk]]) 04:04, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+::To me, both state he was going to take office because he was approved. The first implies he was already approved, but just didn't make it back in time to officially take office. The second at least gives a slight notion to the idea that they had not voted him in yet. --[[User:Taynio|Taynio]] ([[User talk:Taynio|talk]]) 02:16, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
-:What? When? Where? --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 08:21, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
-::During the Orochimaru vs. Hiruzen fight, when he was getting ready to use Shiki Fuujin. He said that he must do something about the souls bound to Edo Tensei. [[User:Jules R. J. Blake|Jules R. J. Blake]] ([[User talk:Jules R. J. Blake|talk]]) 08:30, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
-:::I'm sorry, but I cannot find any mention of the soul bound to the Edo Tensei summon not actually being that of the resurrected. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 08:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
-::[[User:Jules R. J. Blake|Jules R. J. Blake]] i think you might be thinking of when orochimaru was talking with Tsunade about resurrecting her loved ones, and needing 2 sacrifices [[User:Fawcettp|Fawcettp]] ([[User talk:Fawcettp|talk]]) 11:13, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+[[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]], this was extracted from the Hokage's article Overview: "...but if the old Hokage dies or is incapacitated before being able to do so, the Fire Daimyō will appoint a Hokage Candidate upon the recommendation of the Konoha council and the Fire Daimyō council. Afterwards, '''the candidate will need to be approved by the jōnin of the village to become officially Hokage'''.
-All Hokage have had some connection to each other: The First and Second were brothers, the Third was the student of the Second, The Fourth was the student of Jiraiya, who was a student of the Third, and the Fifth is the granddaughter of the First, the grandniece of the Second, and the student of the Third. When Kakashi was considered for the position of the Sixth, his connections to the past Hokage almost cemented his selection as he was a student of the Fourth. The former acting Hokage, Danzō, was once a rival to the Third for the position, and Danzō disagreed with the peaceful ideologies of the five Hokage.
+After being approved, '''they move into the Hokage Residence''' to live in and have their faces carved out in the monument behind it..." [[User:Dragon NJMB|Dragon NJMB]] ([[User talk:Dragon NJMB|talk]]) 21:00, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
-:it should be added that Danzō was also a student of the Second, and teammates with the Third.{{unsigned|72.223.82.101|04:06, 2010 February 20 (UTC)}}
-::He wasn't a student of the Second and he was only team-mates with the Third for one mission, as far as we know. Sign your posts. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 14:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
+:"Enter office" there means exercise the position, not move into the Hokage's Residence. Saying he was a candidate already points out he had yet to officially become Hokage. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:29, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
-== Regarding Kakashi ==
+== Meaning of Hokage ==
+In Japanese, "hokage" means fire light. Although it is true that the letter "kage" normally means shadow, the meaning changes from shadow to light in specific combinations of kanjis. Other examples are tsukikage -> moonlight and hoshikage -> starlight. [[Special:Contributions/220.100.22.39|220.100.22.39]] ([[User talk:220.100.22.39|talk]]) 16:35, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
-Should it be noted that Kakashi is essentially the acting Hokage now? Gaara, Temari, and Kankuro have explained that Danzo flew the coop, and so it's been decided that the group needs to move on as though Kakashi had been chosen instead of Danzo from the start. I mean, the village doesn't know, but they said there's no time to go back and have the Jonin vote. So do we count Kakashi as acting Sixth or not? [[User:Teamrocketspy621|Teamrocketspy621]] ([[User talk:Teamrocketspy621|talk]]) 16:13, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
+== Chapter 627 ==
-:He's not. Right now, Kakashi is a dude staying at an inn on the Outskirts of the Land of Iron. Danzo left the summit, but that doesn't dismiss him as acting Hokage, because nobody at the summit has the authority to say "Danzo is no longer Hokage." Only the Fire Daimyo and/or the Jonin Council can say that.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 16:33, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
+On the last panel of said chapter it says "The strongest soilders are ready"/ "The biggest of the big fish about to flex their might" (depending on your translation). Now I may be reading into it a little too much but does this confirm that Hokages 1-4 are among the strongest in history? Well actually the 2nd and 4th since 1st and 3rd are already considered among them. I'm just saying since Tobirama constantly fought evenly and eventually defeated Izuna (who was noted to be one of the greats among the Uchiha) and Minato is already considered one of the most gifted and on top both are arguably the strongest Kage of their generation. However like I said just very intense speculation. --[[User:Youngjusticeplayer007|Youngjusticeplayer007]] ([[User talk:Youngjusticeplayer007|talk]]) 18:11, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
+:Yeah, Hokage are the strongest Kage. Save Tsunade of course. I mean:
-This is my opinion, but i think we should have the pictures of the kage being in their kage robes if there are pictures of them in them, not their profile pictures, there is one of the 1st and 5th kages, danzo too, and we can put the picture on Minato's page (the one that says, Minato as the fourth hokage, i just personally think we should put those as the pictures on this page --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 21:11, December 17, 2009 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
+* Hashirama = god of shinobi
+* Tobirama = very powerful, inventor of modern ninjutsu basically (shadow clones, flying thunder god, edo tensei, possibly body flicker etc.), skilled with Suiton
-Well,I'm sure we put atleast something about him being Hokage now that Danzo's dead--[[Special:Contributions/24.161.125.222|24.161.125.222]] ([[User talk:24.161.125.222|talk]]) 17:46, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
+* Hiruzen = god of shinobi, mastered all Konoha techniques
+* Minato = young prodigy Hokage, one who can fight Orochimaru on equal ground despite the greater experience and bodily modifications of the latter
-:Again, until someone actually reaches Konoha and makes it official, he's just a guy running in the woods with a little boy. Yes I made that as creepy as possible.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 17:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
+--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:10, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
-Had Tsunade ever really met 1st? I don't see how that could have happened.
-== Strongest of all kages? ==
-I don't recall Sarutobi being said to be the strongest of all kages...he wasn't, was he?--[[User:Narutodude|Narutodude]] ([[User talk:Narutodude|talk]]) 21:43, January 3, 2010 (UTC)Narutodude
-== 1st controlling some biju ==
-The 1st Hokages Secret Wood Style Jutsu made him able to control biju. I understand how Madara was able to control them through his dojutsu/genjutsu. But how can ninjutsu be able to manipulate things. All it is suppose to do is hurt you. {{unsigned|70.198.109.1|00:38, 2010 January 9 (UTC)}}
-:Ninjutsu can be used for a lot more than just hurting people. The way i understand it, the First Hokage channels his innate ability to control Tailed Beasts through his Wood Release. It was just a coincidence that his kekkei genkai gave him both powers.
-:Sign your posts next time, by the way. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 01:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
-== Question ==
-When Orochimaru was fighting the 3rd and summons the first and the second, were they the real 1st and 2nd or are they fakes. if they were real, there is no question that hiruzen is the strongest hokage since he was able to beat the1st, 2nd and Orochimaru at the same time. i think that minato was strongest since hiruzen said i wish the 4th were here, he would be able to beat Orochimaru. {{unsigned|70.198.109.1|00:45, 2010 January 9 (UTC)}}
-:They were the real First and Second Hokage. They had their souls, their abilities, and their strength. The only thing they lacked was their minds, since Orochimaru took those away. They were, in fact, more difficult to defeat, because they could regenerate when harmed.
-:The Fourth Hokage was not stronger that the Third, but he had the potential to become stronger. The Third Hokage was specifically called the strongest of all the Hokage, which includes the Fourth. However, the Fourth Hokage was called the greatest shinobi and the greatest Hokage and was said to be able to have risen to great heights. This indicates that he was one of the best in every point a shinobi and Hokage should and could be great and he could have potentially have become even stronger than the Third. He just died before that.
-:Again, sign your posts. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 01:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
-== kakashi ==
-shouldnt he be put under candidate 6th as well he was just about to be  announced hokage before tsunade woke up [[Special:Contributions/90.205.34.194|90.205.34.194]] ([[User talk:90.205.34.194|talk]]) 07:47, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
-No when Tsunade woke up that ment that konoha had a hokage and doesn't need a candidate so Tsunade is the hokage again :P --[[User:Petar93|Petar93]] ([[User talk:Petar93|talk]]) 09:46, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
-== strongest hokage ==
-How do we know which one is strongest. Unless it's stated then it shouldnt be added ad its really a matter of opinion.  [[User:Sanders-sama|Sanders-sama]] ([[User talk:Sanders-sama|talk]]) 18:37, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
-:It ''has'' been stated, multiple times, that the Third Hokage was the strongest. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 18:43, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
-::such as when ? [[User:Sanders-sama|Sanders-sama]] ([[User talk:Sanders-sama|talk]]) 19:13, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
-:::Such as in chapter 94, page 12 and in the First Databook, pages 117 and 265. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 19:23, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
-::: Jiraiya staes the the 4th was the greatest ninja that ever lived. Jiraiya or Iruka. Who is more crediable? When your teaching little kids ovbiously your going 6to big up the CURRENT hokage [[User:Sanders-sama|Sanders-sama]] ([[User talk:Sanders-sama|talk]]) 17:32, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
-::::Databook is impartial, free of any bias Iruka or Jiraiya may have. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:01, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
-I find it difficult not to think he was the strongest. He took out both the 1st and 2nd right along with Orochimaru... BY HIMSELF.
-== Danzo ==
-Should we keep Danzō on the list? [[Special:Contributions/24.45.20.86|24.45.20.86]] ([[User talk:24.45.20.86|talk]]) 18:15, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:Yes. For an entire arc, he was Hokage.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 19:00, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-::he wasnt hokage yet, all the jonin didnt decide that yet. he was just candidate hokage right?--[[User:Shelldone|Shelldone]] ([[User talk:Shelldone|talk]]) 21:10, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:::He still had an official appointment by the Fire Country's Daimyo, that should count for something. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:15, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:::: He ACTED as Hokage yes but was never one. Nevertheless he played an important role but he should be put in the same thing as Kakashi - Triva section[[User:Sanders-sama|Sanders-sama]] ([[User talk:Sanders-sama|talk]]) 21:20, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Danzō was officially appointed as Hokage by the Daimyo and his council and acted as Hokage for a while. He was the regent and Hokage in all but law. He certainly deserves a mention in the actual article. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 21:24, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-: Then we should a "Candidate Hokage" section. We could have Orochimaru and Kakashi there too [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] Mar-28-10 5:30PM
-::They were never actually Candidate Hokages. Sure Candidates FOR Hokage but not the former. <font color="#0000A0"><del>¥</del> [[User:SuperN|S<small>uper</small> N<small>ovice</small>]] [[Special:Random|↔]] [[User talk:SuperN|T<small>alk</small> <sup>2</sup> M<small>e</small>]] <del>¥</del></font> 21:39, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:::Jiraiya was more of a Candidate Hokage than Orochimaru and neither Kakashi nor Orochimaru was ever officially appointed. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 21:42, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-::::As I said, Danzo gets his place because for an arc, he was Hokage. Jiriaya and Kakashi were candidates for the title, but neither of them got the position. Orochimaru was merely considered, but clearly didn't get the job.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 22:38, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-I understand all of this, like at the end of chapter 450 he was said to be hokage, but even kakashi said the jonin didnt vote yet so hes acting as hokage for the time being. and even danzo said he wants to impress the other kages to get the vote from the jonin... so officially he wasnt hokage, but he just acting as hokage.--[[User:Shelldone|Shelldone]] ([[User talk:Shelldone|talk]]) 23:18, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
-I think since the article is titled "Hokage" the point of the page is to show the Hokage of the village.  Danzo was never officially a Hokage, or else he would have a picture in that room, and a carving of his face on the Hokage Monument.  Danzo was merely put as the Acting kage, thats the word.  What i mean by "acting" is that he was appointed leaser until a final decision was made (the jonin vote).  I believe the hokage page should just contain information about the official hokage and that in the trivia section, its says, "Danzo was appointed during the Kage Summit arc as Temporary Hokage, until an official decision was made, unfortunatley, he died before the official Jonin vote was made," or something like that. --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 00:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-When he was dieing he admitted to not being the Hokage when he was thinking of Saurtobi. He was a candidate not the real thing. In order to be the real thing you need the Daimyo's blessing AND the Jonin vote. Danzo died before he got to the Jonin vote and as such even he admitted he wasn't Hokage. Say what you want but the character himself admitted it.[[User:Saimaroimaru|Saimaroimaru]] ([[User talk:Saimaroimaru|talk]]) 05:53, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
-:Why you even argue??? His last words said it: (Last Words) "Hiruzen... it looks like it's my turn next... but I... never did become Hokage... no matter how far I went I could never catch up with you... you are the leaves bathing in the sun. I... am the roots that grow in the dark." What prove do you still want? He said it. I am backing all the guys that said to remove him from the Hokage list. And if you don't remove it, then remove the Acting Sixth Hokage from his picture. He is dead now, not acting at all. :)--[[User:Mutant 16|Donatelo]] ([[User talk:Mutant 16|talk]]) 20:42, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
-::Fiction is written in present tense. If there is ever a point in a story where something ''is'', it will never be ''was''. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 20:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
-ya but if ur going to keep danzo, then kakashi should be there too, he was a candidate as well, and if you say he wasnt given blessing my the daimyo, he was a second from being done so, meaning that he was a candidate for the position, it's either put both the candidates, or take them out......my suggestion is to just make a trivia that kakashi and danzo were candidates for the position of 6th hokage --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 21:38, June 9, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-:Kakashi never made it to Candidate. A lot of people said "Hey Kakashi should blah blah blah" but officially he never made it. Even when he was about to be made it, Tsunade woke up and it was backed off. Danzo however was given the title by someone in power and had the power to make decisions.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 21:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
-i agree, however, in the Fire Daimyo's head he already had Kakashi as a candidate for the position, and he was literally about to say "I hear-by appoint you as the Sixth Hokage" --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 22:20, June 9, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-:And he didn't. He instead said "Danzo, you're the Sixth Hokage.". That is why he's on the page, and Kakashi isn't.--[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]] ([[User talk:TheUltimate3|talk]]) 22:24, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
-plus to add a point to previous comment, the word Candidate dictionary definition: A person who applies for a job or is nominated for election (side note:) -A person or thing that is regarded as suitable for or likely to receive a certain fate.  Basically what i am trying to say is that a candidate is someone who is considered for the position.  You have to use the word correctly, if you are going to say Danzo a CANDIDATE for 6th Hokage, then you need to put Kakashi as well because, he was considered for the position of 6th Hokage, my suggestion are to either change that danzo was a candidate, put a thing or kakashi as candidate, or just change to a trivia thing --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 22:25, June 9, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-:The main difference is that Danzō actually ruled as Hokage, whereas Kakashi didn't. Nor was Kakashi ever officially proclaimed as (candidate) Hokage, like Danzō. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 23:03, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
-Yes i fully agree with you, my main point is that candidate isn't the right word, i see the difference and what you two are trying to say, you just need a different word --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 02:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-:[[wiktionary:候補|But "candidate" is literally the only option.]] '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 03:19, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
-::I do not quite see why another word would be needed. ''Candidate'' fits the role Danzō had quite perfectly. Just because it has other possible meanings, some of which might include Kakashi's position, doesn't mean that those meanings are intended. Almost every single word has multiple interpretations. The intended meaning is clear from the article.
-::Besides, even taking into account the broader definition of ''candidate'', this would still not really include Kakashi.
-::For most, if not every, official position similar to that of Hokage, a candidate is someone who has been officially chosen to be a possible choice in the election for this office. Kakashi never made it that far, Danzō did. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 08:01, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
-yes but kakashi, was a possibility for the position, that is wut candidate means --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 17:03, June 10, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-:Since Danzo did some work as Hokage, maybe we should use "Acting Hokage"? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 17:17, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
-::@Sauske-Blaze: Not when the term is used to refer to a candidate for an official position. In that case, a candidate isn't just someone who has the possibility to gain that position, but someone officially chosen to run for that position.
-::For instance, let's say that the position we're talking about is that of president. The candidates for this position are those officially chosen by the participating parties.
-::@Jacce: Acting Hokage doesn't actually completely fit the situation either. An acting Hokage would imply someone who takes over until a new Hokage can be elected. Not to mention that we actually have an official canon title. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 17:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
-While the fact if Danzo should listed as Hokage or that we should make a new section about Hokage Candidates, should we not at least aknowledge on the Hokage section that for a while he was giving out the orders and representing the village as leader for a while. While he may not have been "Hokage," he was still in charge. [[User:Thomas Finlayson|Thomas Finlayson]] ([[User talk:Thomas Finlayson|talk]]) 18:01, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
-I like ShounenSuki's point, like say the presidential run, all the people running for the position of president are known as candidate's, but I agree as well with his second point, that he should be listed as acting, or temporary acting or something.  Maybe we should just change it to trivia that he was the acting hokage during the Kage Summit arc, and keep the page for the official hokage --[[User:Sauske-Blaze|Sauske-Blaze]] ([[User talk:Sauske-Blaze|talk]]) 22:34, June 10, 2010 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
-Since he was preforming duties as Hokage and had a chance of becoming the Hokage, something Jiraiya and Kakashi didn't, Danzo could be listed as "acting". [[Special:Contributions/213.67.182.127|213.67.182.127]] ([[User talk:213.67.182.127|talk]]) 10:02, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
-I think that Danzo should be removed from the Hokage page, because he was never officialy appointed like the others and if not that way then put it to trivia that he was acting hokage or remove the picture, because he is already dead.--[[User:Adek121|Adek121]] ([[User talk:Adek121|talk]]) 14:05, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
-Of the non-Hokage, Danzo is the one who got closest to being one. From the structure we know (appointed by Daimyo, approved by jonin), he's the one who went the furthest. Also, why remove his image? Only Tsunade is alive, should we remove deceased Hokage as well? Don't think so. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:36, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
-The best title for Danzo is "Interim", he was the Interim-Hokage. A person who is put into a position for the meantime to deal with current issues until the position can be resolved at a later date. I think this word should be substituted  in the place of candidate, that or use the word 'Nominee' which also makes sense. On the debate on the word 'candidate', it is best defined, in the context we are talking about, as a person who is a contender and has some form of support for a position; Kakashi would fall under this definition of being a candidate, since he has several people who would support him such as Shikaku in his run for the position of Hokage. Naruto could be considered a candidate for Hokage, since he was praised so highly by a anonymous villager/Ninja and other notable characters. --[[User:Alastar 89|Alastar 89]] ([[User talk:Alastar 89|talk]]) 07:08, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
-:No it isn't. ''Interim'' implies a temporary position one hasn't necessarily been officially elected for. Danzō's position was neither temporary —he would have become the real hokage had all gone right— nor unofficial — he was chosen legally and according to the normal procedures. There is no good word in English for what Danzō's position was. There are various terms used for positions like Danzo's, but none are perfect:
-:* '''Candidate Hokage:''' Implies he has no official duties, nor has been actually elected in any way yet.
-:* '''Hokage-Elect:''' Does imply he has already been elected, but also that he has no official duties yet
-:* '''Interim Hokage:''' Implies a non-elected, temporary position with limited power, serving as an bridge between two official hokage. Usually used in times of crises when there is no longer any official government and no time to officially elect one.
-:* '''Acting Hokage:''' Also implies a non-elected, temporary position. Usually because the official hokage is temporarily unavailable.
-:* '''Hokage Nominee:''' Same as candidate-hokage, but implies candidature suggested by someone else, rather than candidature on one's own accord.
-:* '''Hokage-Regent:''' Implies a temporary position held because the official Hokage is unable to rule in their own right, be it illness, minority, or something else. implies a non-elected, held-for-life position.
-:* '''Hokage-Designate:''' Implies the person holding the title is expected to become the next Hokage, but isn't yet there.
-:* '''Hokage-in-Waiting:''' Same as Hokage-Designate.
-:No English term truly fits Danzō's position, so we fall back on the term used by Kishimoto-sensei: HoKage Candidate. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 11:50, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
-== Trivia error ==
-''All of the former Hokage have been sealed away in the stomach of the Death God summoning; The Fourth was sealed when he sealed the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox within Naruto, while the '''First and Second were re-sealed''' when the Third sealed them away. As for the Third, he was sealed when he gave his life to seal Orochimaru, but only managing to seal away his arms.''
-How can the First and Second be re-sealed into the Death God summoning when they we're not sealed by the jutsu before Hiruzen actualy sealed them [[Special:Contributions/91.176.139.47|91.176.139.47]] ([[User talk:91.176.139.47|talk]]) 23:49, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
-== Sakura connections ==
-Why, in the connections trivia point, is sakura mentioned. She's never once been mentioned in regards to being hokage. The point is about the connections of those who have been hokage or, like kakashi, were considered for the position. Sakura really has no reason to be mentioned. I'm going to remove that part if no one objects and raises a legitimate reason--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 11:04, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
-:I agree, I see no point in mentioning Sakura. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 11:14, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
-== Tsunade and the 1st? ==
-Did Tsunade ever really meet the 1st? I don't see how could that have ever happened since he had to have died before she was even borned. I think this was an ERROR. ~Daddy Mak~
-:Where is it said she met the First? —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 15:25, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
-::[[:File:Tsunade as a baby.JPG|I think that's the First's arm.]] '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:09, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
-:::If that is so, then it is merely another anime error, I'd say. Tsunade was most likely born during the Third Hokage's reign, when both the First and Second Hokage had already died. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 19:02, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
-Yeah I was referring to that scene. After Chapter 481 it never made sense. I think it was an anime error because I don't remember seeing it on the manga. Thanx ShounenSuki. ~DaMakDaddy~
-== Hokage Picture All Wrong ==
-The picture of the Hokage Monument that was recently added is incorrect. Hiruzen Sarutobi never had a beard. Also, where was the picture taken from?
-:You're right didn't even see that they gave him a beard. It was taken from Shippuden Episode 185--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 07:31, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
-::I didn't notice that either. I'd restore the old one but, looking at it, it seems to have the same problem; just not as obvious. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:29, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
-== WHY MANGA pics all of a sudden? ==
-Why is Narutopedia gradually changes all anime pics into manga pics? Is this a wiki that only covers manga now? Just curious, why is a manga pic now used for the Hokage Monument when there are good full coloured anime pics out there? Other examples include Part 2 characters from coloured volume chapters, when there are full body shots of them in the anime? [[User:Sparxs77|Sparxs77]] ([[User talk:Sparxs77|talk]]) 11:37, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
-:If you can find a high-quality, flawless anime image of the Hokage Mountain, no-one will stop you from switching it with the manga image I put up. I only changed the image to one of the manga because the anime images were... not up to par, so to say.
-:As for the character images, that is because the coloured manga images give a more accurate view of what the characters are supposed to look like, being drawn by the original creator and all. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 11:41, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
-::We were actually in the middle of discussing this little issue a month ago, but the Wikia Crisis put it on the back burner to more pressing matters. I have no will to restart to discussion as of now because I have a lot of crap to do for the next three days (as of this writing) so feel free to bring it up [[Narutopedia talk:Image policy#Amendment: Anime/Manga Colored|here]] if you so desire.--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~The User King ~ ]] 11:59, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
-== 4th to 3rd Hokage? ==
-Okay so obviously the 9 tails attack on the Leaf was before the 1st episode, and then the 4th hokage sealed it , so obviously it was the 4th hokage at that time. But if that's true, then at the beginning of the show, why was 3rd hokage back in seat? And how was there ever a 4th hokage if the 3rd hokage never died at the time? shouldnt the 3rd hokage still of been hokage when the 9 tails attacked? --Mizukage[Mist]
-:People tend to retire when they get pretty old. Hiruzen Sarutobi was 56 when the Nine-Tails attacked. That's not exactly young for a ninja. Jiraiya died at a younger age than that, as did many powerful shinobi. It should be no surprise that he would want to retire. That's my take on it, anyways.
-:The only important thing you need to know is that the Fourth Hokage was named while Sarutobi was still alive. That is the word of god. (Word of god as used here refers to the word of the creator of the series.)[[User:Ryne 91|Ryne 91]] ([[User talk:Ryne 91|talk]]) 05:40, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
-::The former doesn't have to die in order for a new Hokage to be named. Just like any other regime it seems like Hiruzen was either helping Minato in an advisory capacity or helping with the transition of a new Hokage in office.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez™]]☺ 05:46, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
-:::Yeah i suppose, but if Hiruzen DID want to "retire" or anything of that sort, why didn't they just name a 5th Hokage? --Mizukage[Mist]
-::::You know, all of these things are explained in one or more articles. Consider reading them?
-::::Hiruzen never selected a Fifth because he could never find someone appropriate for the position. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 02:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
-:Ahh and i dont know where the articles are :O {{unsigned|67.174.149.245}}
-== Hi VS Ho ==
-I believe you all that HOkage is the proper spelling, not HIkage, but I'm just confused so this is a question of curiosity. I always thought that Hi was fire, not Ho. Can someone explain?--[[Special:Contributions/74.105.224.17|74.105.224.17]] ([[User talk:74.105.224.17|talk]]) 18:35, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
-:The kanji for fire has multiple pronunciations. I.e.:
-:* Hi: {{translation|Hi no Kuni|火の国|Land of Fire}}
-:* Ho: {{translation|hokage|火影|fire shadow}}
-:* Bi: {{translation|hanabi|花火|fireworks}}
-:* Ka: {{translation|katon|火遁|fire release}}
-:—[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 19:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
-== Danzo the 6th... For a few days? ==
-Wasn't Danzo '''already appointed''' as 6th Hokage before being conveniently offed by Sasuke (Or wasn't he approved by the Jounin or something, before Sasuke killed him?), so that the previous Hokage (Who was conveniently not dead) could be reinstated (Somethign like with the 3rd and the 4th)?--[[User:Boris Baran|Boris Baran]] ([[User talk:Boris Baran|talk]]) 21:59, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
-:Danzō had been appointed by the Fire Daimyō, but he said himself he still had to be approved by the jōnin to be officially considered as Hokage. Even as he died, he said he didn't become Hokage. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:06, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
-::Thx :) --[[User:Boris Baran|Boris Baran]] ([[User talk:Boris Baran|talk]]) 00:26, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
-== Hokage the strongest out of... ==
-... all Kages by default? Is this true? It seems Kabuto thinks so [http://www.mangareader.net/93-145-3/naruto/chapter-140.html right here]. Basicly, he's saying that the Hokage is always the strongest out of all the other Kages, just because he is the '''Ho'''kage. Or did i misinterpret his words? [[Special:Contributions/95.42.145.132|95.42.145.132]] ([[User talk:95.42.145.132|talk]]) 14:24, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
-:He was referring to [[Hiruzen]] who was considered to be the strongest Kage during his time as Hokage.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:31, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
-::Cerez365is right, it's just a bad translation. He's simply saying that the Third Hokage was said to be the strongest:
-::* {{translation|'''"Well, it wasn't going to be that simple. At any rate, since your opponent was the Hokage, admired as the strongest of Five Great Countries."'''|「まぁそう簡単はありませんよ。何せ相手にしたのは五大国最強と謳われる　火影なのですから」|"Maa sō kantan wa arimasen yo. Nanise aite ni shita no wa Godaikoku saikyō to utawareru Hokage nano desu kara"}}
-::—[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 14:37, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
-Thank you both, this really clears things up.... [[Special:Contributions/95.42.145.132|95.42.145.132]] ([[User talk:95.42.145.132|talk]]) 14:46, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
-== Questions ==
-#In chapter 488, before the new of Tsunade's awakening, the daimyo of the fire was about to appoint Kakashi: sixth Hokage candidate or sixth Hokage?
-#When someone is appointed Hokage candidate by the daymio of the fire, we know we muste be approved by the Jonin of the village to officially become Hokage, but how does this happens : Do Jonin of the village gather in a room and make a "vote" (as I read in a chapter of the manga)? If this is not the case or roughly the case, could you give me what happens in details.
-#Do you need to be approved by "all" Jonin of the village to officially become Hokage?
-Thank you in advance for your answers. [[Special:Contributions/41.249.93.108|41.249.93.108]] ([[User talk:41.249.93.108|talk]]) 01:07, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-I'd assume it would have to be the majority of the jōnin would have to agree to your appointment. They have a [[Jōnin Standby Station|hangout]]. We don't know the details so we can't provide that.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:18, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-Okay, and what about this question : "#In chapter 488, before the new of Tsunade's awakening, the daimyo of the fire was about to appoint Kakashi: sixth Hokage candidate or sixth Hokage?" ? [[Special:Contributions/41.249.93.108|41.249.93.108]] ([[User talk:41.249.93.108|talk]]) 01:24, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-:He would have been the candidate more than likely.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:31, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-:Okay, and also concerning the Hokage Candidate who needs to be approved by the jônin of the village : the jônin of the village make a "vote" where each of them says yes or no ? [[Special:Contributions/41.249.93.108|41.249.93.108]] ([[User talk:41.249.93.108|talk]]) 01:50, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-::That's usually how voting goes when you're presented with a candidate.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:52, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
-::Okay, I asked this question just to make sure that there is a "vote" which takes place.
-Last questions,
-::1. when you say "they have a hangout", do you mean that it is in this venue where the vote takes place? If it is the case, the Hokage Candate is he also in the hangout when the vote starts?
-::2. When the vote takes place, the jonin "says" or "write in a paper" (which one of the two) yes or no ?
-::3. If Kakashi was appointed candidate, and later before the vote takes place, Tsunade wakes up: Would she stay Hokage?
-::4. How long after a person is appointed Hokage Candidate, the vote starts [[Special:Contributions/41.248.186.158|41.248.186.158]] ([[User talk:41.248.186.158|talk]]) 15:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
-::I'm still waiting for your answers Cerez365 ! Thanks for your attention. [[Special:Contributions/41.248.186.158|41.248.186.158]] ([[User talk:41.248.186.158|talk]]) 22:52, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
-I mean they have the [[Jōnin Standby Station]] we have no clue what they do there except wait for missions and stuff. Like I said before we know nothing of the voting process and as such cannot provide those detailed answers for you.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 23:38, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
-Okay, and concerning the question 3 which has nothing to do with the details of the vote, could you answer me? [[Special:Contributions/41.248.186.158|41.248.186.158]] ([[User talk:41.248.186.158|talk]]) 00:07, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
-A country/village's political system isn't something that is straightforward. I couldn't tell you what would happen if Kakashi were appointed the Candidate Hokage and Tsunade woke up afterwards because we don't have an in depth knowledge of Konoha's political system. The only thing we were told is that a candidate is appointed by the Fire Daimyō upon the recommendation of those council people but the jōnin have to vote for or against said person. Anything outside of that would just be my assumption of how the system would work and this isn't the place for that.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 16:21, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
-Okay, thank you, everything is now perfectly clear. [[Special:Contributions/41.140.26.190|41.140.26.190]] ([[User talk:41.140.26.190|talk]]) 16:27, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
-== The role of the Fire Daimy council? ==
-Does this is true that the Fire Daimyō appoint a Hokage Candidate upon the recommendation of both the Konoha council and the Fire Daimyō council?
-Where does this is shown that the Fire Daimyo council recommends a Hokage. For me, the council members only comment the recommendation of the Konoha council ! Does this is correct ? [[Special:Contributions/41.248.162.37|41.248.162.37]] ([[User talk:41.248.162.37|talk]]) 14:12, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-:They're still part of the process "upon the recommendation of" is not just "choose X"--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-::So, to put things in clear, a member of the Fire Daimyo council can recommend someone for the post of Hokage? I'm asking this question because in the manga, only members of the Konoha council recommended someone, and concerning the Fire Daymio council, they commented their recommendation (in the chapter where Danzo was appointed as Sixth Hokage Candidate).[[Special:Contributions/41.249.2.79|41.249.2.79]] ([[User talk:41.249.2.79|talk]]) 16:26, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-:::Yes, it'd seem that everyone there can make suggestions that the Daimyō will take under advisement so one might say "what about X as a possible candidate?". The Daimyō himself doesn't have that much power to ''select'' a Hokage because there's the vote and what the people of Konoha want, so he's more of an official mouth piece. That's the way I understand it at least.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 16:36, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-::::Okay, and accordind to what you said, I deduce that the Fire Daimyo don't make any suggestions by saying something as "what about X as a possible candidate?". Does this is correct ? [[Special:Contributions/41.249.2.79|41.249.2.79]] ([[User talk:41.249.2.79|talk]]) 22:44, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-Ho dear... Uhm, the whole decision process there is predominantly unknown so I can't really tell you exacts. But more than likely he would discuss his own choice with the delegation.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 23:05, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
-:Okay, thanks for your answers.--[[Special:Contributions/41.249.2.79|41.249.2.79]] ([[User talk:41.249.2.79|talk]]) 12:24, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
-::Hoped I helped. Also, you don't have to separate your signature.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 12:48, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
-== Bringing back into discussion ==
-I think we should simply mark Danzo as Hokage on the list not just Hokage candidate, because he did die true but was appointed hokage in Tsunade's absence and was hokage for a whole arc, like how the Third hokage pretty much handled things when the fourth died but in this case he was appointed and not just hokage candidate really and it's kind of bugging me that if we just mark Hokage Candidates the list will fill up with everyone who will be taking over for their absence so it simple, we mark him hokage or take him off the list. --[[Special:Contributions/141.157.21.68|141.157.21.68]] ([[User talk:141.157.21.68|talk]]) 00:03, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
-So I suggest that we simply edit the fact that he was a Hokage Candidate (and yes i read the previous discussion) and simply put down for fact that he was the Sixth Hokage.--[[Special:Contributions/141.157.21.68|141.157.21.68]] ([[User talk:141.157.21.68|talk]]) 00:14, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
-Yeah, no. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:41, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
-== Kakashi ==
-Kakashi Hatake has been considered a prime candidate for the position as Hokage by several characters.[6][7] He would have been officially appointed as the Sixth Hokage if Tsunade hadn't woken up moments before hand.[8]--->There is no proofs that Kakashi would have been officially appointed as the Sixth Hokage at this moment. The rule says that a ninja is appointed Candidate by the Fire Daimyo, then officially Hokage by jonins of Konoha. Therefore, at this moment, Kakashi was probably about to be appointed as a Candidate. [[User:Whitewhol|Whitewhol]] ([[User talk:Whitewhol|talk]]) 02:29, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-:Danzō was appointed for Hokage by the daimyō, the only reason we list in as Candidate is because that's how he was listed in one of the Fanbooks. Kakashi would have been appointed for Hokage the same way, and would probably be approved faster, since pretty much only Root supports Danzō, while Kakashi is much more popular among the jōnin. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 02:53, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-Of course, he would have been approved faster, but the only thing which disturbs me is this part "if Tsunade hadn't woken up moments before hand". Because if Tsunade hadn't woken up moments before hand, he would have been appointed as the Sixth Hokage Candidate, then later will officially be Hokage by being approved by jonins. But maybe, because of the war which about to begin, Fire daimyo decided to appoint him directly as the Sixth Hokage. [[User:Whitewhol|Whitewhol]] ([[User talk:Whitewhol|talk]]) 03:27, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-:We don't know that the daimyō could simply bypass Konoha's system like that. More than likely the voting process amongst the jōnin would have taken place a little faster than it did with Danzō, but I don't believe an external force like the daimyō could just say "ok you're officially the Sixth, no voting necessary", Konoha's supposed to be an "independent" system.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:40, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-Probably you're right, but concerning what I said before, what do you think about this? I mean, if Tsunade hadn't woken up moments before hand, Kakashi would have been appointed as the Sixth Hokage Candidate for sure and would not officially be appointed as the Sixth Hokage like it is said in the article. [[User:Whitewhol|Whitewhol]] ([[User talk:Whitewhol|talk]]) 11:17, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-:Uhm, that's sorta nitpicking. Why are you hankering so much on one word? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:24, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-::No, it is not the case. It is just that there is a big difference between being appointed as a Hokage Candidate and being appointed as a Hokage simply, and the context is also different. [[User:Whitewhol|Whitewhol]] ([[User talk:Whitewhol|talk]]) 11:32, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-Did you read my comment? The manga shows the daimyō appointing Danzō as Hokage. The fact he's listed as "candidate" is only because he got the nomination, but had yet to be approved. He was appointed, period. Kakashi would have been appointed, by Tsunade woke up first. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:48, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
-== Tailed Beast Control ==
-He did it with the help of his necklace. Go the article 1st Hokage's necklace.{{unsigned|180.234.153.55}}
-:Hashirama used the necklace to enhance his control of "jinchūriki and the tailed beasts". The way you were editing it made it sound as if Hashirama lopped all the tailed beast together and swung the necklace over their heads and told them to sit. That, is impossible.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:42, August 24, 2012 (UTC)