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== Marriage ==
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Any reason we don't acknowledge her marriage to Toneri anywhere on the wiki? --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 03:49, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:I think it's because the scene was cut by Naruto jumping. In Asian drama, when a distorted lover interupts the wedding, the latter is automatically cancelled since the bride/groom run-off with someone else. --[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 03:54, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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: @Sarutobi if you need reasoning here:
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:# No official marriage registration(except Hinata and Toneri all others were puppets)
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:# No acknowledge and acceptance from Hinata's side(she was mind controlled)
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:# No one in Narutoverse ever acknowledged it as marriage(except maybe Toneri) so why should we if in real world it will be considered as coercion? ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 05:18, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::@Hisana I know that's how it plays out in a few dramas, but in some real life weddings, when someone has abruptly interrupt's a wedding, its doesn't necessary cancel the marriage going through.
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::@Rage The wiki documents everything and since Toneri himself acknowledge Hinata as his wife, i don't see why this would be an exception.
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::#No one has ever said that was required for a wedding in the Narutoverse
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::#Hinata did accept his marriage proposal voluntary, so she knew what she was getting herself into.
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::#Things in the Narutoverse don't get acknowledge all the time, prime example is the [[Hatake Clan]]. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 06:14, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:: ...the marriage was never carried out. Hinata didn't intend to marry Toneri, which is why he fricking mind controlled her. And the ceremony was interrupted and canceled. So in essence, Toneri and Hinata never married.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 07:27, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::: No one here knows how marriage ceremony's work in the narutoverse, so you cant say it was canceled. But funny enough Toneri knows how they work and he confirmed the ceremony was a success. And mind control doesn't stop a marriage being official, otherwise there would be no point with doing it in the 1st palce.--[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 07:51, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:: From the credits of ''The Last'', its quite clearly a traditional style wedding. Toneri SAYING that Hinata is his wife does not make her his wife. Not to mention she never gave true consent. Seriously, Toneri and Hinata didn't marry, and Toneri didn't confirm 'any' success. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 07:58, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::#He called her his wife after the marriage ceremony. That confirms the marriage. Saying anything other is speculation.
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:::#And you need someones consent to get married said no one ever in the narutoverse. That would defeat the whole purpose of brain washing someone into marrying you if it was impossible without their consent. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 08:21, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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For God damn, she gave Naruto two kids, we saw ending scene in the movie where they marry. Toneri doesn't even show up, and will not show up, and if that isn't proof what is...Man this simply a trolling idea. She being Narito's wife was shown in manga at chapter 700 more before movie came out...Movie was just made because Kishimoto wanted to make Naruto and Hinata's love story...[[User:YamatoTakeru|YamatoTakeru]] ([[User talk:YamatoTakeru|talk]]) 09:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm just rehashing what Hisana said, the marriage ceremony was not over in the movie so it means they are not married. She accepted Toneri's proposal to save Hanabi, she lied to him. She was also mind controlled it's like being forced to marry so that isn't called actual marriage and she can't be his wife
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:EDIT: In a situation where bride/groom is conscious and is not mind controlled, and when the wedding is interrupted it means the marriage did not take place, In somecases that can be still accepted as marriage in some regions and that too only when the couple wants to be with each other. Hinata did not want that.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 10:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::@Mecha All that only applies to a wedding in the real world, but this is the narutoverse, where Kishi has different rules in place. These rules include the ceremony doesn't need to be complete, her being under mind control still means she can get married and even with her consent being a lie, '''Toneri still reconised her as his wife'''. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 10:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Any marriage is called a marriage when the wedding ceremony has been completed, I don't see why Kishimoto would change this universal concept in Narutoverse, There is no confusion you might be true because we don't know how the marriage there works or when the wedding ceremony ends, but the ceremony was just like real world wedding, in church it ends with a kiss and if she had taken the bite then everyone would have agreed that the wedding ceremony was complete and they are married. It was Toneri's intention to make Hinata his wife, He says Hinata is mine, really doesn't mean she is his wife. I had to rewatch that just to make sure.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 12:46, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::So Naruto interrupted a part of the wedding ceremony, but according to Toneri they are man and wife already. So that means he interrupted a part that would come after they officially become married. Such as when newly wed couples cut the wedding cake together, or when they have their 1st dance together. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 13:37, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::: @Saru, The wiki documents everything, but this reasoning kinda dull - now we must change Naruto of school years to popular, handsome guy with best marks becuse thas what Naruto himself told to Sarada and ChoCho? There is difference between what characters states and what really happens. In this particular case Toneri's acknowledgement without Hinata's one(and even if for some reason she was to acknowledge marriage, she can't - mind controlled) is just words nothing more. So only thing you relly on marriage acknowledge is Toneri.
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:::# No one has ever said that didn't.
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:::# Hinata lied about acceptance of marriage proposal, to destroy Tenseigan(Energy vessel) - frankly speaking doing her mission, so this is not case.
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:::# No wrong example [[Hatake Clan]] being ignored in storytelling by Author, not in Narutoverse. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 13:51, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::This is going around in circles and clearly no one but me accepts Kishimoto's wedding. This scene [http://i.imgur.com/XRX4kDJ.png] is what started this topic, so if people want to select not documenting the series, then so be it. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 14:03, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::@Saru Yes, I watched Korean version, the translation is not that good but I can still think of it as an incomplete ceremony because the hero interrupted it, It doesn't seem right he was about to marry so she would be wife for him eventually and so he called Hinata his wife. I'm with you, this point can be added to the article.--[[User:Mecha Naruto|Mecha Naruto]] ([[User talk:Mecha Naruto|talk]]) 14:10, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::@Saru, well you and Toneri in same boat then :D But then again you completely ignored absence of consent from Hinata's side(as well as Toneri lol). Because without all other thing marriage at least must be acknowledged by both marrying sides - so no marriage with Toneri. ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 14:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:You know Saru, you could've just noted that you were asking if this is something worth noting in trivia? I don't think anyone would've argued against your line of thinking had you mentioned "trivia" before hand.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 14:21, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::I was hoping to get it put in her infobox, but i'll settle on the trivia note. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 14:23, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Sorry Sarutobii2. As long as NaruHina exists on this wiki, I don't think it's going in the infobox, haha. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 16:41, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::I have to agree with Windstar on that, though i do admit it would be a bit interesting to have Hinata's infobox list two husbands. [[User:Anchorman34|Anchorman34]] ([[User talk:Anchorman34|talk]]) 20:54, May 25, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34
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::: Hinata actually marries Naruto, hence why she's in his infobox. Hinata never marries Toneri, hence why she isn't listed. And even then, it was done without consent if Naruto was a second too late. That was a false wedding.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 21:53, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Serious question folks, if forced marriages are a thing, why are you's bringing up consent? The whole point of a forced marriage is to not have consent from either 1 or both participants. And yes its reconised as official. I try Windy i try :D--[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 23:28, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::The marriage was never finalize, the "final kiss" never happened, all that went down was Toneri's attempt at completing the ceremony which Naruto interrupted and to be fair, he called Hinata his bride throughout the film especially when she "accepted" his offer. It was just him trying to show he "owned" her. Nothing more than Toneri showing he held the demeanor of a pouty child losing the game to Naruto [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 23:31, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::It was never finalized in "your" perspective. In Toneri's case, in terms of how the movie ended up playing out, it was finalized despite the "final kiss" not occuring. I see Saru's point here. I don't see anything wrong with at least noting it in trivia.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 23:36, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
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I don't want to argue this out anymore and im happy there's at least trivia about this, so i'll just end of these 2 notes.
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#Forced marriage are when one or both participants either don't give their consent or are unable to. And since forced marriages are reconised as real marriages, so would this one be.
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#We have no clue what part of the wedding ceremony Naruto interrupted. Weddings ceremony's continue even after the 2 get married. But if Toneri says there married, that would mean Naruto interrupted a part of the ceremony that comes after the marriage is finalised. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 00:00, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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: Your logic completely falls apart when Toneri calls Hinata his bride and wife before the ceremony even began, even before she gave her 'consent', and most importantly she never intended to marry Toneri in the first place hence the mind control. Saru, Hinata only married one person in this entire story: Naruto. Not Toneri. The marriage wasn't legal, wasn't formal, and was made via coercion and mind control. Its illegitimate. Doesn't matter what Toneri considered, he viewed Hinata as property since he first saw her.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:33, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::The definition of bride is someone who is about to be married and he never called her his wife beforehand only after. Your saying its not legal, but you know nothing about marriage laws in the narutoverese. This was a forced marriage, nothing more, nothing less. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 01:46, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::: Only TONERI considered her his bride and wife. No one else did. And it was the very definition of an illegal marriage. Again, the only person Hinata ever really married is Naruto. Toneri does not count. No one thinks it counts besides you and Toneri, and the latter is a misogynistic bastard who views women as property.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 01:50, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Road to Ninja ==
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:@Saru i think you over ANALyze things here. You were right at beginning but failed at the end. There is two categories of Forced marriage that we can apply anywhere: First one by Law and Second one by fact. Toneri doesn't meet requirements to any of them.
Shouldn't we put up her character sketches for [[Naruto 6: Road to Ninja]]?? And mention her change in personality in the Alternative Universe?? [[User:TomNamikaze|TomNamikaze]] ([[User talk:TomNamikaze|talk]]) 13:31, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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:# Case: Narutoverse(as i suggested earlier) has Marriage Law so Toneri's wedding which doesn't have affilated registrator(Judge, Priest, Hokage) fictional since Toneri don't follow the law it can't be '''forced marriage because by law this is not marriage at all'''.
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:# Case: Narutoverse(as you suggested earlier) has no Marriage Law - in this this two start live togeder(as husban and wife) can be considered as Marriage and forced one in this case will be actual living as husban and wife without consent of one of them, and here Toneri wedding fails as Marriage because groom didn't do what husband should(forced marriage case) - NTR'ing Hinata, making litle ToneHina come out and stuff.
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:And last thing: Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws.
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:Was this wedding socially or ritually recognized? Or have any legal contract between Toneri and Hinata? ./ [[User:Rage gtx|Rage gtx]] ([[User talk:Rage gtx|talk]]) 02:08, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::@Rage My original point is that wedding in the narutoverse and the real world are different things, but since everybody else was relating to real world examples, i brang up forced marriages since its along the same topic.
   
:Same thing as Sasuke. It will be mentioned under the Movies section.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:32, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
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::My whole argument is that we don't know the law or wedding procedures is this universe, so how can we question something we know nothing about. Im just repeating the words of someone who does know the wedding procedures and laws (at least on the moon). If i created a manga and the same events happen to 2 of my characters, who's going to be right, the words i made my character say or fans? Im dropping the topic ok, so for the love of God don't reply, otherwise im just going to continue arguing like a maniac :D --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 03:32, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::: Sarutobi, only TONERI saw her as his bride and eventually wife. Absolutely NO ONE ELSE in the verse saw it was legitimate.--[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 03:50, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::First there's a shitstorm of a discussion on Naruto's talkpage, then Boruto's talkpage, now Hinata's. I hope dear Himawari doesn't get caught up in all this too... {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 03:53, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Bust - Waist - Hip ratio? Part 2 ==
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Guys, calm down already please. Toneri acknowledged Naruto as Hinata's true lover so there, end of story--[[User:Hisana456|Hisana456]] ([[User talk:Hisana456|talk]]) 04:29, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
:: Well given the latest one shot, we can assume her bust her the largest among her firends.--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 11:10, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:If I understood that scene right, the marriage would be official only if Hinata ate that cookie.[[User:Narsha|Narsha]] ([[User talk:Narsha|talk]]) 22:55, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
:::Inconsequential information which no one will miss if it's not mentioned.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:11, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
I agree with shockdragoon, Kishi made that one shot manga ans he talked about Hinatas bust. I dont think you should delete that.
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== Epilogue Image ==
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Where does the anime epilogue image in her info bar on top of the article comes from (The picture of her with shoulder length hair and pink clothes)? I thought we only had manga images of the epilogue. Does it comes from a movie? Thanks! --[[User:Starship Troopers|Starship Troopers]] ([[User talk:Starship Troopers|talk]]) 08:28, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
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:It comes from the most recent trailer for Boruto: Naruto the Movie --[[User:Sarada Uzumaki|Sarada Uzumaki]] ([[User talk:Sarada Uzumaki|talk]]) 08:32, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
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::It comes from a trailer for ''[[Boruto: Naruto the Movie]]''.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]08:34, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Thanks![[User:Starship Troopers|Starship Troopers]] ([[User talk:Starship Troopers|talk]]) 08:51, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
   
It's been proven that Hinata is not fat as most readers or haters thought. Hinata was to modest to show her body. {{Unsigned|76.235.36.30}}
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== Hamura's chakra ==
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Where was it said that she had Hamura's chakra in any form? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 02:36, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
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: She said that while recharging Naruto (end of the movie). [[User:Narsha|Narsha]] ([[User talk:Narsha|talk]]) 02:42, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
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::^Tis true. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 02:48, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I see. But she didn't say that she received it, did she? At least not in that scene. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 02:55, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
   
==Appearance==
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== Flight ==
Okay, I wonder why someone constantly deletes Hinata "sporting a curvacious frame and sizable bust" trait in her appearance.
 
   
Look, if the latest one shot for the movie didn't confirm it nothing will. Kishi even mentioned her figure in an interview. There's nothing perverse, or whatever other reason about stating the fact that Hinata is a well-endowed teenager. Hell, half the anime girls in anime history have ridiculous figures and they describe them. I don't know why someone feels Hinata's appearance should be not be stated.
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At the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, Hinata is capable of flight? Was this actually in the movie or just based off an observation from Toneri's feats?--{{SUBST:User:LastationLover5000/sig}} 11:40, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 11:19, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:Nope, pretty sure it wasn't flying. Otherwise, they would've flown elsewhere instead of falling right after their kiss. Also, Hamura was never said to be capable of flight, due to not possessing [[Six Paths Senjutsu]]...--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 12:13, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
:It's being removed because as I said it's not necessary. The people that come here aren't blind so we don't need to point it out. It's also getting ridiculously perverse and as such it was removed altogether. Nobody goes to Sakura's article for example and says she's a "''petite-brested girl with a slender frame''" thus there's no need to mention the big-busted ones.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:28, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:: Those two were obviously defying gravity at the end, they were staying in one spot for their kiss scene not going down or up for that matter. Like when Naruto gained Six-Path chakra, when she got Hamura chakra (Six-Path chakra) she gained the ability to fly as well. It's the only logical answer. [[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 12:17, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
:: well geez if that the case you might as well remove the info from Tsunade, Samui, Shizuka, and so on and so forth because it's "unnecessary information". Wikis are made for people that have no idea of the series. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass with you but many people notice that I'll leave unnamed that you seem to have a thing against this character. No offense really, as a former admin of many wiki (college gets in the way) I think it does show bias
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::: Yet Hagoromo can fly and Hamura can't. Also, gravity is a b_t_h in the Naruto series... xD--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 12:18, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 11:33, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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:::I would however, as far as I know both Tsunade and Samui's breasts have been the subject of conversation, in universe. I've never heard anyone say anything about Hinata's bust. How can I have a thing against this character, have you seen my signature or user page? I'm a Hyūga-fanatic… And like I said before, unlike Tsunade and Samui's it was becoming perverted (you can check the other revisions) so that's why it's being removed altogether.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:56, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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::::I've wondered for the longest time now why people are so incapable at understanding certain tv tropes. I can't really explain what I mean, but just because a character is "flying", it doesn't mean that they're capable of actually moving through the air. If they appear to stand still in the air, it's not because they're doing it themselves. It's a fictional scenario and if they need to stay in the air for, let's say, a romantic kiss in front of the moon, they stay in the air. That's just how it works, it doesn't mean that they're capable of flying. Damn. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 12:22, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
: Okay, I see where your coming from, really I do, but with the latest one-shot and movie (not to mention the latest interview with Kishi where he satted Hinata's bust size was actually a defining reason for her creation. yeah it's weird) we were bound to get some vandalism. All in all, if you don't come up with the best way to word her figure, someone less "graceful" will word it horrible.
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:::::It's difficult to explain, but I think Tau's spot on with this one as is Omo with his logic.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 12:32, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::It's the same for Tendo Pain when he did his super Shinra Tensei, by the way. Or when Obito appeared in the air in one of those anime fillers. But people around here always have to make a technique out of everything unusual shown. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:35, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
   
I say we keep the original "sporting a curvacious frame and sizable bust" so it leaves no harm no foul and no one puts anyhting dumb in. it's better than something completely stupid being written there.
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Neither Hinata or Naruto can fly in The Last. If they could, they wouldn't bother jumping on rocks.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 12:45, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 12:14, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Where exactly is this interview with Kishimoto, because I've never seen it. Even so, that could be mentioned in her creation and conception or else trivia. There's no need to be going out of our way to mention that she has a curvaceous frame and sizeable bust when when the same isn't being granted to Tenten or Sakura (such info was also removed from Ino's article).--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
::: here's a rough trans, Takl is working on it for us. Still I think it's wrong to remove those from Hinata and Ino, the only thing stopping hat you said on Tenten and Sakura's page is no one WANTS to put it there. Wikis are made for those who never saw the serieses, that's why Fairy Tail wiki I built was so successful (and well Mashima just makes girls like that). If what your saying is the case, I'LL put those things there, I just don't like wikis being edited like this.
 
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=43926728&postcount=250
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 13:46, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Oh. If I remember correctly TakL has some credibility. However, that still doesn't mean I'm for readding that information to her article. A trivia note would be a better fit in my opinion, you can always wait for others to chip in.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:56, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
I don't see what's so wrong about stating that she is well-developed, it's a noticeable part of her appearance, so should be mentioned --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:01, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== Boruto Oneshot ==
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Hi! It have nothing to do with the topic but I don't want to create a new one just for that:
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Can someone add this surname to Hinata's page:
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"日向一族の姫" (Hyuuga Clan's Princess) She's surnamed like that in the Boruto oneshot like presentation, like she's the heiress of her clan:
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[https://40.media.tumblr.com/d380c9491d4a56ae31e82a8769ccfd25/tumblr_nsgy9wilLL1qf3nb8o2_1280.jpg]
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[[User:Sasusakuchiha|Sasusakuchiha]] ([[User talk:Sasusakuchiha|talk]]) 20:08, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
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:Where's the raw from? Is there more? Oh and that's a description. If it were a nickname, it would've been written with 『』, I think. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 22:35, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
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::I'm not entirely certain. Hinata's social situation is not unlike Tsunade's for example. They aren't royalty, but their clan has a certain amount of prestige behind it, so why not mention that she's been called a Princess on more than one occassion; I;m not certain the infobox is the best place if it lacks the indicators that it is a moniker as Seelentau pointed out. That also doesn't mean she's gotten her birthright back. --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|30px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:51, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Yeah, thought it was passed to Hanabi instead? ._.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 09:14, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
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::::It was to my knowledge. But Japanese culture is complicated at best. Hinata wasn't exiled or shamed or anything like that, so she would still be treated with the respect that is owed to the first born child of the head of the clan.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|30px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:43, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Maybe we shouldn't take that description so literally. Tsunade is no princess either. In real life, daughters are sometimes called princesses. I wouldn't put too much thought in it... • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 12:45, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
   
:I also see no issue with it being added. It's about the character so it belongs on the page. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:05, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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== Jounin ==
   
I have noticed that Cerez has something against breasts, there's nothing perverted about that...--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:25, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
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Could someone confirm the right translation and if there is a word about her being a jounin? [https://40.media.tumblr.com/d380c9491d4a56ae31e82a8769ccfd25/tumblr_nsgy9wilLL1qf3nb8o2_1280.jpg 1]
   
Unless it's been mentioned a million of times, like the old hag's, yes there is. [[User talk: X29]], 20:25 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
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--[[User:Ronnyfm|Ronnyfm]] ([[User talk:Ronnyfm|talk]]) 16:21, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
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:[[Talk:Konohamaru_Sarutobi#Parents|This]] should answer your question. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 16:25, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
:I don't care one way or another, but I will mention that "curvacious frame and sizable bust" sounds a bit wordy...I'm sure it can be reworded but eh. It can stay as long as it doesn't invite creepy fans.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:35, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
By creepy, I assume you mean............ Pervy-Sage like. [[User talk: X29]], 20:45 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
"Well developed for her age" perhaps?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:50, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:In my point of view, I think that's pretty normal development for her age. [[User talk: X29]], 20:51 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
"Hinata has a bigger chest than most of her peers" not even some mature women have such big breasts, Sakura is underdeveloped then "_" bot her body and as a character--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:04, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I don't really think you're right on that. I think some mature women are very well developed............ there. [[User talk: X29]], 21:15 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
But quiet, cause Cerez will hear ya--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:09, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hey, he's not the only anti-pervertism around here. [[User talk: X29]], 23:08 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
:Yes, I'm serverely traumatised by breasts : /... Any way my issue with it is simple. People have gone out of their way to mention Hinata's bust size and her slender, yet curvaceous frame yes? The same was done to Ino. Why does no one mention that Tenten have an average size bust, and a slender yet curvaceous frame or that Sakura has a small bust and a slender frame? Sure it's part of the persons appearance but people have obviously goine out of their way to detail and perverse it. Sure breast size is fine but going all the way down to describe her slender yet curvaceous frame? Why not just say she has child bearing hips as well? That kind of information is unnecessary when we can simply say she's "developed into a young woman" right across the board.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:14, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::What I want is that people remove such details. It's perverted to me. [[User talk: X29]], 23:14 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
:::Same. Going into details about those stuff is more trouble than it's worth. We should all know what happens to people during puberty, we don't have to give every nitty gritty detail. As for the bit about Hinata and the alternate-universe Hinata, trivia or creation and conception would be a fine place to mention it in my opinion.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:27, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hmm... why not to add the image of her "outfit" from Road to Sakura episode so people can make their own from it?
 
Seriously... I don't see it any perverted to mention what's true and natural.
 
Are we fucking serious? This manga/anime is about bouncing big breasts and a guy changing into a girl with a technique, there are even lesbian/gay techniques and scenes and lines. If Kishi doesn't make one big hell of an issue from that, then so shouldn't we. This isn't about puberty, Hinata is like third to Tsunade when it comes to biggest breasts, if there weren't scenes and dialogue about that, then okay... but since Kishi want to "sell" Hinata by her "appearance" then people that are reading this wiki should be informed how she looks other than face--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:30, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::::Please, do '''not''' mention anything "Naruto 6: Road to Ninja"-related in my presence. Why? 'Cause it already got spoiled for me by accidently going into the page of that guy Menma. [[User talk: X29]], 23:26 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
Yes, I'm 100% "fucking" serious. This manga is not about bouncing big breasts (the amount of women in the series that have huge breasts is negligeble). I'd say Fairy Tail manga has more to do with breasts than this. Naruto transforms into a woman, and there are a few homosexual undertones in the series, what does that have to do with anything? It is fine with me to mention people's breasts, at least it was only done with big-brested women, but because of all the additional details, people have taken to perversing the article, and while it's fine if you're okay with it, I'm not okay with people coming here and reading stuff like that. Mention that she has a big bust, why not, but the mentioning of her "slender, yet curvaceous frame" is utterly unnecessary unless we should mention her life-bearing hips, supple thighs and ample bottom. Because that's all it will lead to.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:47, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Agreed. We're here to supply facts and information, not perverted details for teen lust. And please lad and lass, language. [[User talk: X29]], 23:48 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 
 
@x29, you wren't spoiled anything, there's still a lot of interesting stuff in the movie you (presumably) don't know about, so stay tuned for a year more or two.
 
@boobs, I'm sure it can be worded so it doesn't sound perverted, if you are bothered with people making hentai out of it with weird edits, lock the page. It's not like she is getting much screentime now, so no need to edit her article often.
 
Oh, now I see your point. Well, my 2 cents: not to keep the "slender, yet curvaceous frame" but keep the mention of her bust as that's the most noticeable and often mentioned. For Ino though, I think "slender, yet curvaceous frame" fits perfectly, because she is all whole "died diet diet" yet has nice breasts as well.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 21:13, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:I ''was'' spoiled. He's the son of Kushina and Minato in a different universe. What you guys are saying now is giving me ideas. So, please, stop. AS for Ino, honestly, just 'cause she's going on heavy diets doesn't mean she has to be curvy 'cause of it. And I guess we could keep the sizeable bust for Hinata, ''if'' it's mentioned again. By the way, when you mentioned Ino's...... breasts, my first thought was "'''PERVERT ALERT!'''" [[User talk: X29]], 00:20 AM, 31st of July, 2012.
 
 
Christ Almighty, this is getting freakin' ridiculous! Look, is the info about Hinata's appearance untrue, No it is not, it should be noted cause that's how a wiki works. 2) the reason people don't right that stuff in Tenten and Sakura's page is because no editor felt like it (though I am surprised no one said that about Sakura since her flat-chest IS the focal point of a few jokes in the series from time to time) if that's the reason iI'LL figgin' put them there. There is nothing perverse about her appearance unless WORDED so. Her breasts have been the focal point of a few jokes in the series, even her CREATION is a reference to her appearance. This is a wiki for God's Sake!
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 15:57, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
And a Wiki is supposed to have correct and '''clean''' info and facts with no slight scent of pervertism in them. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 16:00, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
: How is mentioning that not clean? It's all in how you WORD it. If someone were to write "Hinata posses huge boobs that bounce and bludge" then you have a problem but no one is writing it like that. It's getting to the point where we're going to have to delete EVERY single "appearance" section because "people aren't blind" like Cerez said. I have managed a lot of wikias and this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The info is NOT untrue, let it stay in an appropriate manner, only a French minority is making a big deal about this.
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 16:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Let us ALL give a BIG thank you to TheUltimate3 for writing this truthful fact about this character in a proper manner.
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 17:16, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:All I did was readd one word and connected it to another sentence. That was all that needed to be done without it getting weird and creepy.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:21, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::That's all that was needed, nothing "perverse" about it.
 
--[[User:Shock Dragoon|Shock Dragoon]] ([[User talk:Shock Dragoon|talk]]) 17:25, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Sigh, making an issue from some fat tissue--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:09, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I only have one idea: Till her............ bust gets mentioned several times more, we'll keep it outta the article. If it gets mentioned a few more times, you're welcome to add. How does that sound? --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 21:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
While I don't understand why people think the issue has been resolved (her breasts aren't even mentioned), this isn't worth this much effort, to me at least. As such, I'll leave it as is, and at least hope it won't be taken out of context any more.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:19, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:It doesn't need to be mentioned a stupid amount of times in series just to be mentioned. It just doesn't have to be mentioned like it was written by a creepy fanboy. One word, which is all I added, is enough to convey everything. Hell give me 5 minutes and if breasts are required I can figure out how to add it in.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:24, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Just one last thing: Her figure was never mentioned. Just her........... bust. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 21:26, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Incorrect. Originally, the line was "curvacous(lolcantspellusuckTU3lol) figure and sizable bust", based on the date I picked out randomly that dates back at least to March I believe. Looking at it, that was probably fine and thus TheUltimate3 is unclear what this entire discussion is about.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:39, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Wow fail TheUltimate3, you noted that yourself not to long ago. Either my memory is just that bad, or I had a change of heart. Either way, I'm still confused.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:44, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Basically, we're arguing on her appearance, and if you're gonna add something in her appearance, I suggest you to add her sizeable........... bust, not her frame. Why you ask? 'Cause only her....... bust has been mentioned so far. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 21:47, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
All this discussion, and it's just about her bust. I think that says enough about some here. [[Special:Contributions/24.63.48.105|24.63.48.105]] ([[User talk:24.63.48.105|talk]]) 17:58, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:And that's supposed to mean? --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 18:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Discussing something trivial, I really don't see any problems with how it was written before, after all Naruto isn't an ecchi anime. [[User:White Flash|White Flash]] 18:03, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:::That's 'cause you don't have anti-pervertism genes in you. --[[User_talk:X29|X29]] 18:09, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Her Affiliation ==
 
 
Why Hinata's profile only has Hiashi and her mother listed? Where are her sister and grandfather? I can understand if cousin (Neji) and uncle (Hizashi) aren't listed, but I saw Tsunade page (for example) and all Tsunade's relatives are listed there. --[[User:Narsha|Narsha]] ([[User talk:Narsha|talk]]) 05:45, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Infoboxes are generally funky after latest upgrade. Wikia is changing how the database works. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 06:14, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 

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Any reason we don't acknowledge her marriage to Toneri anywhere on the wiki? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:49, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's because the scene was cut by Naruto jumping. In Asian drama, when a distorted lover interupts the wedding, the latter is automatically cancelled since the bride/groom run-off with someone else. --Hisana456 (talk) 03:54, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Sarutobi if you need reasoning here:
  1. No official marriage registration(except Hinata and Toneri all others were puppets)
  2. No acknowledge and acceptance from Hinata's side(she was mind controlled)
  3. No one in Narutoverse ever acknowledged it as marriage(except maybe Toneri) so why should we if in real world it will be considered as coercion? ./ Rage gtx (talk) 05:18, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Hisana I know that's how it plays out in a few dramas, but in some real life weddings, when someone has abruptly interrupt's a wedding, its doesn't necessary cancel the marriage going through.
@Rage The wiki documents everything and since Toneri himself acknowledge Hinata as his wife, i don't see why this would be an exception.
  1. No one has ever said that was required for a wedding in the Narutoverse
  2. Hinata did accept his marriage proposal voluntary, so she knew what she was getting herself into.
  3. Things in the Narutoverse don't get acknowledge all the time, prime example is the Hatake Clan. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:14, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
...the marriage was never carried out. Hinata didn't intend to marry Toneri, which is why he fricking mind controlled her. And the ceremony was interrupted and canceled. So in essence, Toneri and Hinata never married.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:27, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
No one here knows how marriage ceremony's work in the narutoverse, so you cant say it was canceled. But funny enough Toneri knows how they work and he confirmed the ceremony was a success. And mind control doesn't stop a marriage being official, otherwise there would be no point with doing it in the 1st palce.--Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:51, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
From the credits of The Last, its quite clearly a traditional style wedding. Toneri SAYING that Hinata is his wife does not make her his wife. Not to mention she never gave true consent. Seriously, Toneri and Hinata didn't marry, and Toneri didn't confirm 'any' success. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:58, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
  1. He called her his wife after the marriage ceremony. That confirms the marriage. Saying anything other is speculation.
  2. And you need someones consent to get married said no one ever in the narutoverse. That would defeat the whole purpose of brain washing someone into marrying you if it was impossible without their consent. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:21, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

For God damn, she gave Naruto two kids, we saw ending scene in the movie where they marry. Toneri doesn't even show up, and will not show up, and if that isn't proof what is...Man this simply a trolling idea. She being Narito's wife was shown in manga at chapter 700 more before movie came out...Movie was just made because Kishimoto wanted to make Naruto and Hinata's love story...YamatoTakeru (talk) 09:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I'm just rehashing what Hisana said, the marriage ceremony was not over in the movie so it means they are not married. She accepted Toneri's proposal to save Hanabi, she lied to him. She was also mind controlled it's like being forced to marry so that isn't called actual marriage and she can't be his wife
EDIT: In a situation where bride/groom is conscious and is not mind controlled, and when the wedding is interrupted it means the marriage did not take place, In somecases that can be still accepted as marriage in some regions and that too only when the couple wants to be with each other. Hinata did not want that.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 10:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Mecha All that only applies to a wedding in the real world, but this is the narutoverse, where Kishi has different rules in place. These rules include the ceremony doesn't need to be complete, her being under mind control still means she can get married and even with her consent being a lie, Toneri still reconised her as his wife. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 10:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
Any marriage is called a marriage when the wedding ceremony has been completed, I don't see why Kishimoto would change this universal concept in Narutoverse, There is no confusion you might be true because we don't know how the marriage there works or when the wedding ceremony ends, but the ceremony was just like real world wedding, in church it ends with a kiss and if she had taken the bite then everyone would have agreed that the wedding ceremony was complete and they are married. It was Toneri's intention to make Hinata his wife, He says Hinata is mine, really doesn't mean she is his wife. I had to rewatch that just to make sure.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 12:46, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
So Naruto interrupted a part of the wedding ceremony, but according to Toneri they are man and wife already. So that means he interrupted a part that would come after they officially become married. Such as when newly wed couples cut the wedding cake together, or when they have their 1st dance together. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:37, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Saru, The wiki documents everything, but this reasoning kinda dull - now we must change Naruto of school years to popular, handsome guy with best marks becuse thas what Naruto himself told to Sarada and ChoCho? There is difference between what characters states and what really happens. In this particular case Toneri's acknowledgement without Hinata's one(and even if for some reason she was to acknowledge marriage, she can't - mind controlled) is just words nothing more. So only thing you relly on marriage acknowledge is Toneri.
  1. No one has ever said that didn't.
  2. Hinata lied about acceptance of marriage proposal, to destroy Tenseigan(Energy vessel) - frankly speaking doing her mission, so this is not case.
  3. No wrong example Hatake Clan being ignored in storytelling by Author, not in Narutoverse. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 13:51, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
This is going around in circles and clearly no one but me accepts Kishimoto's wedding. This scene [1] is what started this topic, so if people want to select not documenting the series, then so be it. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:03, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Saru Yes, I watched Korean version, the translation is not that good but I can still think of it as an incomplete ceremony because the hero interrupted it, It doesn't seem right he was about to marry so she would be wife for him eventually and so he called Hinata his wife. I'm with you, this point can be added to the article.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 14:10, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
@Saru, well you and Toneri in same boat then :D But then again you completely ignored absence of consent from Hinata's side(as well as Toneri lol). Because without all other thing marriage at least must be acknowledged by both marrying sides - so no marriage with Toneri. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 14:15, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
You know Saru, you could've just noted that you were asking if this is something worth noting in trivia? I don't think anyone would've argued against your line of thinking had you mentioned "trivia" before hand.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 14:21, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
I was hoping to get it put in her infobox, but i'll settle on the trivia note. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:23, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry Sarutobii2. As long as NaruHina exists on this wiki, I don't think it's going in the infobox, haha. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 16:41, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
I have to agree with Windstar on that, though i do admit it would be a bit interesting to have Hinata's infobox list two husbands. Anchorman34 (talk) 20:54, May 25, 2015 (UTC)Anchorman34
Hinata actually marries Naruto, hence why she's in his infobox. Hinata never marries Toneri, hence why she isn't listed. And even then, it was done without consent if Naruto was a second too late. That was a false wedding.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:53, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
Serious question folks, if forced marriages are a thing, why are you's bringing up consent? The whole point of a forced marriage is to not have consent from either 1 or both participants. And yes its reconised as official. I try Windy i try :D--Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:28, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
The marriage was never finalize, the "final kiss" never happened, all that went down was Toneri's attempt at completing the ceremony which Naruto interrupted and to be fair, he called Hinata his bride throughout the film especially when she "accepted" his offer. It was just him trying to show he "owned" her. Nothing more than Toneri showing he held the demeanor of a pouty child losing the game to Naruto Shock Dragoon (talk) 23:31, May 25, 2015 (UTC)
It was never finalized in "your" perspective. In Toneri's case, in terms of how the movie ended up playing out, it was finalized despite the "final kiss" not occuring. I see Saru's point here. I don't see anything wrong with at least noting it in trivia.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 23:36, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to argue this out anymore and im happy there's at least trivia about this, so i'll just end of these 2 notes.

  1. Forced marriage are when one or both participants either don't give their consent or are unable to. And since forced marriages are reconised as real marriages, so would this one be.
  2. We have no clue what part of the wedding ceremony Naruto interrupted. Weddings ceremony's continue even after the 2 get married. But if Toneri says there married, that would mean Naruto interrupted a part of the ceremony that comes after the marriage is finalised. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 00:00, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
Your logic completely falls apart when Toneri calls Hinata his bride and wife before the ceremony even began, even before she gave her 'consent', and most importantly she never intended to marry Toneri in the first place hence the mind control. Saru, Hinata only married one person in this entire story: Naruto. Not Toneri. The marriage wasn't legal, wasn't formal, and was made via coercion and mind control. Its illegitimate. Doesn't matter what Toneri considered, he viewed Hinata as property since he first saw her.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:33, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
The definition of bride is someone who is about to be married and he never called her his wife beforehand only after. Your saying its not legal, but you know nothing about marriage laws in the narutoverese. This was a forced marriage, nothing more, nothing less. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 01:46, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
Only TONERI considered her his bride and wife. No one else did. And it was the very definition of an illegal marriage. Again, the only person Hinata ever really married is Naruto. Toneri does not count. No one thinks it counts besides you and Toneri, and the latter is a misogynistic bastard who views women as property.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:50, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
@Saru i think you over ANALyze things here. You were right at beginning but failed at the end. There is two categories of Forced marriage that we can apply anywhere: First one by Law and Second one by fact. Toneri doesn't meet requirements to any of them.
  1. Case: Narutoverse(as i suggested earlier) has Marriage Law so Toneri's wedding which doesn't have affilated registrator(Judge, Priest, Hokage) fictional since Toneri don't follow the law it can't be forced marriage because by law this is not marriage at all.
  2. Case: Narutoverse(as you suggested earlier) has no Marriage Law - in this this two start live togeder(as husban and wife) can be considered as Marriage and forced one in this case will be actual living as husban and wife without consent of one of them, and here Toneri wedding fails as Marriage because groom didn't do what husband should(forced marriage case) - NTR'ing Hinata, making litle ToneHina come out and stuff.
And last thing: Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws.
Was this wedding socially or ritually recognized? Or have any legal contract between Toneri and Hinata? ./ Rage gtx (talk) 02:08, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
@Rage My original point is that wedding in the narutoverse and the real world are different things, but since everybody else was relating to real world examples, i brang up forced marriages since its along the same topic.
My whole argument is that we don't know the law or wedding procedures is this universe, so how can we question something we know nothing about. Im just repeating the words of someone who does know the wedding procedures and laws (at least on the moon). If i created a manga and the same events happen to 2 of my characters, who's going to be right, the words i made my character say or fans? Im dropping the topic ok, so for the love of God don't reply, otherwise im just going to continue arguing like a maniac :D --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:32, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
Sarutobi, only TONERI saw her as his bride and eventually wife. Absolutely NO ONE ELSE in the verse saw it was legitimate.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:50, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
First there's a shitstorm of a discussion on Naruto's talkpage, then Boruto's talkpage, now Hinata's. I hope dear Himawari doesn't get caught up in all this too... WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 03:53, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Guys, calm down already please. Toneri acknowledged Naruto as Hinata's true lover so there, end of story--Hisana456 (talk) 04:29, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

If I understood that scene right, the marriage would be official only if Hinata ate that cookie.Narsha (talk) 22:55, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Epilogue Image Edit

Where does the anime epilogue image in her info bar on top of the article comes from (The picture of her with shoulder length hair and pink clothes)? I thought we only had manga images of the epilogue. Does it comes from a movie? Thanks! --Starship Troopers (talk) 08:28, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

It comes from the most recent trailer for Boruto: Naruto the Movie --Sarada Uzumaki (talk) 08:32, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
It comes from a trailer for Boruto: Naruto the Movie.--JOA2008:34, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks!Starship Troopers (talk) 08:51, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Hamura's chakra Edit

Where was it said that she had Hamura's chakra in any form? • Seelentau 愛 02:36, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

She said that while recharging Naruto (end of the movie). Narsha (talk) 02:42, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
^Tis true. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 02:48, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
I see. But she didn't say that she received it, did she? At least not in that scene. • Seelentau 愛 02:55, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Flight Edit

At the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, Hinata is capable of flight? Was this actually in the movie or just based off an observation from Toneri's feats?--{{SUBST:User:LastationLover5000/sig}} 11:40, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Nope, pretty sure it wasn't flying. Otherwise, they would've flown elsewhere instead of falling right after their kiss. Also, Hamura was never said to be capable of flight, due to not possessing Six Paths Senjutsu...--Omojuze (talk) 12:13, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
Those two were obviously defying gravity at the end, they were staying in one spot for their kiss scene not going down or up for that matter. Like when Naruto gained Six-Path chakra, when she got Hamura chakra (Six-Path chakra) she gained the ability to fly as well. It's the only logical answer. Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:17, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
Yet Hagoromo can fly and Hamura can't. Also, gravity is a b_t_h in the Naruto series... xD--Omojuze (talk) 12:18, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
I've wondered for the longest time now why people are so incapable at understanding certain tv tropes. I can't really explain what I mean, but just because a character is "flying", it doesn't mean that they're capable of actually moving through the air. If they appear to stand still in the air, it's not because they're doing it themselves. It's a fictional scenario and if they need to stay in the air for, let's say, a romantic kiss in front of the moon, they stay in the air. That's just how it works, it doesn't mean that they're capable of flying. Damn. • Seelentau 愛 12:22, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
It's difficult to explain, but I think Tau's spot on with this one as is Omo with his logic.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 12:32, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
It's the same for Tendo Pain when he did his super Shinra Tensei, by the way. Or when Obito appeared in the air in one of those anime fillers. But people around here always have to make a technique out of everything unusual shown. • Seelentau 愛 12:35, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Neither Hinata or Naruto can fly in The Last. If they could, they wouldn't bother jumping on rocks.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:45, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Boruto Oneshot Edit

Hi! It have nothing to do with the topic but I don't want to create a new one just for that: Can someone add this surname to Hinata's page: "日向一族の姫" (Hyuuga Clan's Princess) She's surnamed like that in the Boruto oneshot like presentation, like she's the heiress of her clan: [2] Sasusakuchiha (talk) 20:08, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Where's the raw from? Is there more? Oh and that's a description. If it were a nickname, it would've been written with 『』, I think. • Seelentau 愛 22:35, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
I'm not entirely certain. Hinata's social situation is not unlike Tsunade's for example. They aren't royalty, but their clan has a certain amount of prestige behind it, so why not mention that she's been called a Princess on more than one occassion; I;m not certain the infobox is the best place if it lacks the indicators that it is a moniker as Seelentau pointed out. That also doesn't mean she's gotten her birthright back. --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 02:51, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, thought it was passed to Hanabi instead? ._.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 09:14, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
It was to my knowledge. But Japanese culture is complicated at best. Hinata wasn't exiled or shamed or anything like that, so she would still be treated with the respect that is owed to the first born child of the head of the clan.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 12:43, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
Maybe we shouldn't take that description so literally. Tsunade is no princess either. In real life, daughters are sometimes called princesses. I wouldn't put too much thought in it... • Seelentau 愛 12:45, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Jounin Edit

Could someone confirm the right translation and if there is a word about her being a jounin? 1

--Ronnyfm (talk) 16:21, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

This should answer your question. • Seelentau 愛 16:25, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

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