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It's been 11+ years without nutrition. I think it's safe to change his status to deceased. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:10, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Moreover, he was cloned by Kabuto, so he should be good as dead already. --Rautamiekka (talk) 17:14, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I agree. But for those iffy for a reason I couldn't imagine for, we should at least be able to agree to "Presumed Deceased". --Rai 水 (talk) 17:20, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Firstly, to clone someone, you don't necessarily need them to be dead. By this logic, Naruto's Nine-Tails clone couldn't be created cause Naruto was still alive. Secondly, it's just an anime arc, which isn't completely canon compared to the manga. And about the topic - we don't know exacly how long Hidan has to be without nutrition to die for sure. It could be either 1 year or the whole 100 years. So we can't say for sure he's already dead. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 17:25, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- I never said he has to be dead to be cloned. It's unlikely he's alive after dozen years without anything to digest even by being immortal against conventional damage. --Rautamiekka (talk) 17:30, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- What is the harm of at least putting "Presumed Deceased" though? Although Hidan ihas immortality, being able to survive deadly attacks and such, that even without eating for long periods of time 10+ years, he'd still be alive. Other than the fact that from his burial several moths back before the war, he apparently was still alive, apparently or maybe Hidan didn't want him but let's be positive. Either way, it was given intel that he needs to eat to survive and if that's the case, since he hasn't gotten to right nutrients in a decade or so, believing he is dead is most suitable, aka "Presumed Deceased" for all you opposers for "Deceased". --Rai 水 (talk) 18:58, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- I never said he has to be dead to be cloned. It's unlikely he's alive after dozen years without anything to digest even by being immortal against conventional damage. --Rautamiekka (talk) 17:30, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Firstly, to clone someone, you don't necessarily need them to be dead. By this logic, Naruto's Nine-Tails clone couldn't be created cause Naruto was still alive. Secondly, it's just an anime arc, which isn't completely canon compared to the manga. And about the topic - we don't know exacly how long Hidan has to be without nutrition to die for sure. It could be either 1 year or the whole 100 years. So we can't say for sure he's already dead. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 17:25, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. I agree. But for those iffy for a reason I couldn't imagine for, we should at least be able to agree to "Presumed Deceased". --Rai 水 (talk) 17:20, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
Funny, I can't remember when reader opinions began to outweigh official statements made by the mangaka himself. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:45, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
You should check out all the Hiruzen, Itachi and Nagato related threads then Seelentau, these weaboo's are getting out of control. They actually think their opinions outweigh Kishi and his facts xD QuakingStar (talk) 22:17, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- As far as the series is concerned, he is still incapacitated. Could he have died? Maybe. Do we know for sure? Nope. For all we know, he got out the whole and left the country to murder people in peace.--TheUltimate3
(talk) 22:57, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- How are we going against the manga? Durung the war it was speculated that he was alive but accordibg to the second fanbook, he needs to eat to survive and the likely hood of him being alive is low so there should be no problem to put Presumed Deceased at least. Also, don't get me started on a few characters people put as Presumed Deceased although it wasn't confirmed them being dead is likely. And I do mean manga debuted characters. Hyprocritical much. Smh --Rai 水 (talk) 23:16, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- How is listing Hidan dead any different from listing Butsuma Senju deceased? Both are logically dead. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:54, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Because Hidan was specifically stated to be alive and Kakuzu wondering where his partner was supports it. That's the last information we got on him, so we go with it. Butsuma Senju was no supernatural freak with demonic powers, the last time I checked. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:58, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- Said to be alive at the time. That's a valid argument to keep his status from changing during the war, not a decade later. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 00:12, March 3, 2016 (UTC)
- Most recent specifically made statement on the status of a characters, correct. Basically, Hidan is more alive than Inoichi and Shikaku are dead. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:53, March 3, 2016 (UTC)
- Said to be alive at the time. That's a valid argument to keep his status from changing during the war, not a decade later. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 00:12, March 3, 2016 (UTC)
- Because Hidan was specifically stated to be alive and Kakuzu wondering where his partner was supports it. That's the last information we got on him, so we go with it. Butsuma Senju was no supernatural freak with demonic powers, the last time I checked. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:58, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- How is listing Hidan dead any different from listing Butsuma Senju deceased? Both are logically dead. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:54, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
- How are we going against the manga? Durung the war it was speculated that he was alive but accordibg to the second fanbook, he needs to eat to survive and the likely hood of him being alive is low so there should be no problem to put Presumed Deceased at least. Also, don't get me started on a few characters people put as Presumed Deceased although it wasn't confirmed them being dead is likely. And I do mean manga debuted characters. Hyprocritical much. Smh --Rai 水 (talk) 23:16, March 2, 2016 (UTC)
Yes from 10 or more years in the past in Naruto's rime. Also, we have no proof that Hidan not being apart of Kabuto's army, means he was dead. I mean if he was still alive and Kabuto apparently lnowd where he is why didn't he just repair him and bring him to war? Easy answer. Because he obviously didn't care to. I mean he could've revived Konan too, but did he? No. --Rai 水 (talk) 01:11, March 3, 2016 (UTC)