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== Before anyone tries to add it... ==
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== Magnet Release ==
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Gaara uses Magnet Release in Gaara Hiden. Currently translating the chapter and it should be out fully tonight. Magnet Release should be added to his infobox with a novel only tag, right? --[[User:EmotionalRockfish|EmotionalRockfish]] ([[User talk:EmotionalRockfish|talk]]) 04:46, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:Before that I'd like to read the fully translated chapter.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]04:48, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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::He uses Magnet Release in the novel? Oh good lord...
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::{{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 04:48, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
I'd just like to note that it Gaara didn't use Magnetism Release in 557. He simply had some of the 4th Kazekage's Gold Dust mixed into the Sand Clone. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:33, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
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What involvement does Kishi have with the Hiden? Did he give the A-Ok to the author? If he gave his thumbs up, or had involvement himself it may be canon, if not then it is novel only.. although it's been awhile now people still think he has Magnet Release anyway.. [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 04:51, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:I think everything else is being given novel only tags atm, so it's probably safer to just do that. I know Kishi illustrated the covers of the books, but I'm unsure of how canon they are. And yeah, I'll link the translation when it's done. --[[User:EmotionalRockfish|EmotionalRockfish]] ([[User talk:EmotionalRockfish|talk]]) 04:57, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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::Can you take a picture of the Japanese pls? I want to read it with my own eyes ._. I mean, the novels still are just novels, so they don't count anyway, but still... I want to punch a hole in a wall :D • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 05:22, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I mean, Thrall's Balls, man, do we have to go through another round of "Does Gaara have Magnet Release" again? Ugh. {{User: WindStar7125/LongSig}} 05:35, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
It is only speculation on both ways. Gaara was born withe the black rings around his eyes, babys whoa re just born dont have insomnia, so gaara may indeed have magnetism release like his father, which may be the reason why he was the only one of the 4th's kids who was compatible for the Shukaku, Maybe Magnetism release is a must for being the Shukaku's Jinchuriki? {{unsigned|72.66.90.246}}
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:::Sure thing.For context, Gaara's fighting against someone who manages to get through his shield, and the book previously made a point that everyone's hiden jutsu were revealed in the war. Which is important because this is the only secret jutsu he has left that no one knows about.
:While it is possible, we just won't know until Kishimoto decides to tell us. I also doubt that it's a requirement to have Magnet Release to be the host but then again...--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 11:34, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
When FOURTH KAZEKAGE used GOLD DUST ability dark rings appeared around his eyes that resembled the permanent ones around those of his son. WHO USED MAGNET RELEASE ABILITY ARE DARK RINGS APPEARED AROUND HIS EYES?? {{unsigned|Chghjik}}
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:::http://i.imgur.com/O6TluHz.jpg
:Every thing Gaara did can be explained by means other than Magnet Release. The Third Kazekage and Toroi, also users from Magnet Release, don't display such rings. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:08, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
== Chakra Flow ==
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:::Important stuff starts around the paragraph in the middle with 'だが'.--[[User:EmotionalRockfish|EmotionalRockfish]] ([[User talk:EmotionalRockfish|talk]]) 06:05, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
I've always been kind've wondering, aren't all gaara's techniques chakra flow? Should we change this? {{unsigned|70.94.202.27}}
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だが、〈砂の盾〉は、その槍をことごとく防ぎきった。我愛羅が父より受け継いだ、磁遁である。<br />
:Not quite. Gaara's control over sand differs a lot from what we've come to know as charkra flow. If simply putting chakra into something constituted chakra flow techniques, all ninjutsu would be chakra flow. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:51, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
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No idea how to translate the first sentence, lol. Something about a spear and the shield of sand. Second sentence is "Magnet Release is what Gaara inherited from his father.". fcking sigh. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 06:37, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:I swear, the author wrote this novel after watching the last shitstorm on this wiki about Gaara and Magnet Release, just to rub it into our faces once more. Now what? Tag him with "Magnet Release - Novel only"? Do we tag all sand techniques with the same? This is going to suck so much.... [[User:Norleon|Norleon]] ([[User talk:Norleon|talk]]) 06:53, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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::No. The book also states that "That single measure was something he hadn’t used before until now, his father’s jutsu." (by OD-chan). He can just control iron sand in addition to his normal sand control. Sand control still isn't Magnet Release. Just to clarify that^^ • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 07:01, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Wind Release ==
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eer, I just checked [[Magnet Release]] and "This is further reinforced when the Gaara Hiden: A Sandstorm Mirage novel stated that none of Rasa's child inherited his Magnet Release."??? What is the truth now? • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 07:10, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
I think "while transformed" or "with Shukaku's power" should be added to that.
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:The line in chapter 4 is, "The truth was that neither of the three sand siblings had inherited the Fourth Kazekage's jutsu." Without knowing more of the context in chapter 5, I don't know how to reconcile the two. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 07:18, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
He used it only while being partially transformed and never again since then.
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
:While it's true we only saw him using it while transformed, the databook explicitly stated Gaara as the user of Wind Release: Infinite Sand Cloud Great Breakthrough. Plus, we don't do that for tailed beasts. We know Rōshi only uses Lava Release because of the Four-Tails, but there's no annotation in his infobox either. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 21:15, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
That's because he himself used it while being partially transformed ... that's why he is listed.
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Gonna reply to everything here.
Killer B's [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ink_Creation Ink] stemms from Eight-Tails.
 
He is listed as an user because he himself used it with Eigh-Tail's power.
 
By your logic, we should list Naruto as an Fire Release user since in anime Kyubi used fire. But it was Kyubi in control of Naruto's body that used it, not Naruto himself.
 
What I'm trying to say is that Gaara used Wind Release obviously thanks to Shukaku so "Wind Release (with Shukaku sealed) would make me help sleep at night, thanks.
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:19, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:Except there's no reason to suspect Gaara wouldn't also have learnt wind techniques without Shukaku. Both his sister and teacher use wind techniques, after all. There is no proof that Gaara's wind techniques stem from Shukaku. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 23:30, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
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1. That first sentence is 'However, the shield completely defended against the spear.' But yep. It later says 'A shield of sparkling metal particles repelled the spear of water.' I had to read that part before I was 100% certain.
   
Except he has not used it since fighting against Naruto in part 1.
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2. Seelentau is right about that. He's never used this before, so it's got nothing to do with his sand manipulation.
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:36, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:So? —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 00:00, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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3. The book was probably lying? This comes later in chapter 5, so I'd take this as the truth. The fact that this is supposed to be a surprise is pretty important, I think. Probably trying to get you to think he didn't have it, then... bam.--[[User:EmotionalRockfish|EmotionalRockfish]] ([[User talk:EmotionalRockfish|talk]]) 08:09, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
Well, him using it only while being partially transformed and not seen using it after Shukaku's removal ...
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More info please> Also does it mention what natures Magnet consists of? Just wondering if it confirms Wind and Earth.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 11:39, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 00:06, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:Again, so? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. [[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 03:10, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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Gaara has Magnet Release, who cares. If he didn't get it from his dad he should have gotten it from Shukaku anyways... [[User:QuakingStar|QuakingStar]] ([[User talk:QuakingStar|talk]]) 17:28, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
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:Not seeing the big deal....if this is true, let's just tag him as ~novel only and be on our mary way.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 20:58, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
::It's worth noting that he hasn't displayed Wind Release before his transformations or after. I will add a line about the unknownity(not a word) of his Wind Release.--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Keeper of Lore~ ]] 04:02, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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The big deal is that its a dream come true. Alota people were saying he possessed Magnet Release even before it was confirmed...this is like History in the Making. Also, since the writer for the Gaara Hiden novel is worked with Kishi on the Boruto Movie (saw it somewhere on the wiki), we can expect to see Gaara using the Magnet Release (hopefully!) in the film. --[[User:Kyle Ethan|Kyle Ethan]] ([[User talk:Kyle Ethan|talk]]) 21:08, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::I don't see a need for that. If we take Rōshi and Gaara's actually verified jinchūriki powers as examples, Gaara still has his Fūton and can use them outside of his Bijū transformations. Juste becasue he doesn't use them doesn't mean he can't. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 04:24, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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The book says nothing about the individual natures, unfortunately. --[[User:EmotionalRockfish|EmotionalRockfish]] ([[User talk:EmotionalRockfish|talk]]) 14:51, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
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:It's pretty simple. [[Jin no Sho]] listed only three basic natures for Gaara: Wind, Lightning & Earth. [[Rasa|His father]] has: Wind, Earth, Water & Yin. The two share: Wind & Earth. Problem solved.--[[User talk:JOA20|JOA<sup>20</sup>]]15:11, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
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::Gaara's natures have no influence on this, though. Even if he didn't have earth or wind, Magnet Release would still be made up of those. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:24, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I know all of that, still paranoid about a possible error though. Maybe they omitted Lightning for Rasa by an accident and it's actually Lightning+Earth or hell Lightning+Wind. @Seel, not unless he too has Magnet Release.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 15:25, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
   
::::That wasn't the meaning of the addition, at least as I put it. Assuming Roshi isn't like the million others who just magically got Lava Release, he got his from his tailed beast. The way I put it, it is unknown if he is just naturally a Wind user, or the affinity originally came from the beast and simply melded to him.--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Keeper of Lore~ ]] 05:04, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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The novels are a part of the New Era Project, correct? If so, they are canon. Not novel-canon. Just canon. It's a sad thing we've been in denial for this long.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 09:33, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:Applying this ''flawed'' logic, the Naruto live play is also canon? >.>--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:51, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::I don't recall the live plays being mentioned as part of New Era Project. Do you?--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 09:55, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::[[Naruto Project]], 2015 first on the list >.>--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 10:00, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Am I understand you correctly if you were referring to an '''re-enactment of canon''' story material as your argument? If so: wat.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 11:16, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::That's still not what canon is~ • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 11:37, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::The live-play is an re-enactment. That doesn't mean the story material isn't canon - it already was. Also listed under the New Era Project banner we have The Last, the Boruto movie and a bunch of info books - all of which are canon. That means the novels must be too. By what logic are you proposing to picking and choosing what is and is not canon?--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 19:52, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::No, that's not the logic we're using. We're using the logic that the original material (the manga) is the canon. Everything that's adapted from it (movies, games, novels, ...) is not canon. The only exception are The Last (chapter 699.5) and Boruto The Movie (because Kishimoto declared it canon). • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 20:19, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Who is this "we" you're referring to? Regardless, your logic is '''faulty''' - that's a matter of ''fact.'' As is the ''fact'' that the New Era Project is an extension of the franchise and all that falls under it is canonical. This goes for the movies, the data books, and yes, the novels. There is no picking and choosing based on preference.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 21:17, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::The wiki, of course. If you can give me proof that everything that's part of the Naruto Project is said to be part of the manga, then please do so. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:20, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::::Two editors cannot speak on behalf of the entire wiki. The proof is right in front of you. The novels, data books and The Last fill in the gaps in between 699 and 700. The Boruto movie carries on the franchise and its companion info books provide additional information. All of this falls under the same banner. They all fill in the void. By what hair-brained logic have you come to deduce the novels are not canonical? There is no reasonable explanation other than your inherit bias against being wrong, which shouldn't surprise me since obstinance and pleading ignorance when convenient is your MO for dealing with arguments you know you can't win.--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 22:51, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::::No proof for your words and personal attacks instead. Just what I expected. Go insult someone else please, I don't have time for your antics. Thanks <3 • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 23:05, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::::Hello!? 1st: Calm your tits. 2nd: The novels contradict with the canon, so no, they are not canon, this information is enough to say that. 3rd: The discussion about the canonicity of the novels (and how we will handle them) already happened, quite a while ago, and it was decided this way. Just because you missed it, doesn't mean you can go on a rant because of it. 4th: You say 2pple. Well. You're just '''one person'''. Also, wiki(s) are not a place for democracy, believe me, I've learned it the hard way.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 23:07, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
:::::Let's just say he hasn't used it after the first time. That's all we can definitly say and should say. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|]]</sup> 09:31, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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How do they contradict canon? I thought the only rationale to consider them non-canon was that they are written by 3rd part authors.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:36, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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:Sakura Hiden - Sasuke has a second arm, Canon Storyline: He doesn't :)--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 23:48, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
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::Proof?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 23:57, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
@ShounenSuki, I never said Gaara himself can't use Wind Release.
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== Sensor Type ==
Just he never used it outside of beast transformation.
 
He no longer can use [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Infinite_Sand_Cloud_Great_Breakthrough this] since he no longer has an additional mouths all over his body.
 
Like Sasuke is listed as an user of Body Shedding with Orochimaru absorbed, I think Gaara should be listed as partially transformed into Shukaku until he shows this without being transformed.
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:58, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
:Wasn't it specifically said that Sasuke could only use that technique because he had absorbed Orochimaru's soul? Any way, annotating Gaara's use of this technique like that would imply that he can only use it while (partially) transformed, and there's simply nothing that really supports this. I won't mind saying he only used it while partially transformed in the article itself, but actually annotating the infobox listing is too much. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 14:07, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
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Since when? Does that also come from Gaara Hiden?--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 18:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:Na, but he used sensing sand. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 19:11, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::[[Concealed Sand Picture Cat]] is a sensing technique.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 20:25, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I was under the impression we only considered those with an innate ability to sense chakra to be sensor types. Sage Mode is also a sensing technique, yet its users are not listed as sensors (not for that reason, anyway).--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 20:56, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Because [[Sage Mode]] is not a sensory technique. [[Sensing Technique]] is a sensory technique too. This one is just a fancy variation of it, as to say.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:04, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Well, technically Gaara really just uses his chakra sand to check the area and if it touches something, he knows that it's there. He can't sense chakra or people by himself, so I wouldn't say for sure that it's a sensing technique. The databook calls it a "physical sensing technique", by the way. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:07, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::contact ''sensing technique''. Just implies a fancy way of doing it tbh.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:10, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Well, he obviously can't sense chakra with it, so there's the difference to actually sensing someone. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:16, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::Not true... I think. Can't he sense ''who's'' chakra is it, like he did with [[Mū]] and the [[Giant Clam]]?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:18, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::::Not according to the databook. Dunno what the manga says, haven't read those parts in a long time. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::::Honestly, the databook says nothing about it, with the exception of it being a sensing technique.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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According to its debut in the databook, Gaara didn't even use Concealed Sand Picture Cat until he found the clam, meaning he used a different technique to detect Mū. Then again, some of those debuts are blatantly wrong, so who knows?--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 21:30, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:The databook says that the sand clings to the enemy to reveal its outline. Nothing about chakra. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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::Guess it needs to ''sense'' the chakra to know where the enemy is.. Honestly, I'm picking straws here. "Sensory Technique", however, says enough that it does, in fact, sense. But what, I have no idea then >.>--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:34, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
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:::It is a sensing technique, just not one that senses chakra. Does that make Gaara a sensor type? No idea. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 21:36, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
   
We have seen him using it only while partially transformed and with the use of the additional mouths.
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== Sparkling Metallic Sand ==
He most likely can't transform into Shukaku anymore and we have not seen him using this or any other Wind technique since, I think that's enough reason.
 
Well, I spoke my mind ... do as you please :)
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:16, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
== Tailed Beast Skill ==
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In the "Gaara Hiden", Gaara uses sparkling metallic sand. [[Sand]], [[Iron Sand]], [[Gold Dust]]... Perhaps, we should create a page for this "Metal Sand". --[[User:Sharingan91|Sharingan91]] ([[User talk:Sharingan91|talk]]) 08:32, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
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:Not enough info. An article for a single (may I add speculative) sentence when it can be mentioned in the character's page is enough, at least for me anyways.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:00, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
Guys this is getting ridiculous, we all know that Gaara's sand controlling ability stems from the One-Tailed Tanuki Shukaku, it is clearly a Tailed Beast Skill but Shukaku doesn't have to be a user only Gaara. [[Special:Contributions/119.154.18.124|119.154.18.124]] ([[User talk:119.154.18.124|talk]]) 14:05, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
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::Not only that, wasn't it a simple add-on to pre-existing technique? A seperate article is unnecessary if that's the case.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 13:22, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
:Sorry, what do you actually mean? --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 14:08, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
 
::It's not ridiculous. Most of Gaara's techniques have never been marked as tailed beast skills. We can't just go off on a tangent and mark them as such. I would have thought that recent revelations with his father, the Third Kazekage, his mother and the fact that he can still manipulate sand without the Shukaku would be taken into consideration.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:41, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::In the past, I would have supported listing his techniques as Tailed Beast skills, but there's this one sand technique of his that is ranked. That throws a wrench in it. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:37, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
::: How about this [[Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet|[1]]] it's ranked but still a Tailed Beast Skill. P.s was Tailed Beast Skill ever given a databook entry? [[Special:Contributions/119.73.69.4|119.73.69.4]] ([[User talk:119.73.69.4|talk]]) 11:09, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Yup, it's given in the databook.--[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 11:33, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Can you tell me that entry? [[Special:Contributions/210.2.185.244|210.2.185.244]] ([[User talk:210.2.185.244|talk]]) 11:26, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The [[Wind Release: Drilling air bullet]] was from the second databook, that's what I saw in the references section.--[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 11:33, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
That isn't what I asked about :{ , besides Gaara can only use those techniques because of the Shukaku, if it wasn't derived from the Shukaku, then Gaara would be able to used it without having the Shukaku sealed inside of him,he was a jinchuriki of the Shukaku, that was the only thing which grannted him these abilities others can do it causing even the Third Kazekage to create a jutsu to '''imitate''' Shukaku's abilties. We don't know if any other jinchuriki would be able to retain their tailed beast skills after death.
 
 
@Omnibender: Can you please show us the link?
 
 
@cerez365: When you say "Never been listed as tailed beast skill" does that mean that the Databook labels them as such? Roshi was able to use the [[Lava Release: Scorching Stream Rock Technique]] and it's listed as a tailed beast skill, because we clearly know that the Lava Release abilities are from Son Goku. We don't know if what would have happened if any other Jinchuriki like Roshi was revived in the same way as Gaara. Like I said before its clearly known that the Shukaku's style is unique causing the Third Kazekage to create Iron Sand. Ginkaku and Kinkaku were able to use their tailed beast skills even after they were dead. [[Special:Contributions/119.73.69.4|119.73.69.4]] ([[User talk:119.73.69.4|talk]]) 12:50, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Well you have a point there. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 12:53, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
: So will it be considered? I will wait until a few others see this until then I will post this on their pages. [[Special:Contributions/119.73.69.4|119.73.69.4]] ([[User talk:119.73.69.4|talk]]) 12:56, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet is ''not'' a ranked technique. By ranked, we mean having been ranked from E-rank to S-rank, which shows how difficult it is to learn/perform the technique. The ranked sand technique I mentioned is [[Sand Binding Prison]], which is a B-rank technique, according to its entry in the third databook. Tailed beast skill was a category we implemented independently to further categorise techniques. If a technique can be traced back as stemming from a tailed beast, we list it as a tailed beast skill. The reason most of Gaara's sand techniques are not listed as such, as far as I recall, is because of that one B-ranked technique. Having a rank like that has always implied that the technique is learnable/performable by anyone willing to learn. For example, no kekkei genkai technique has ever had a rank, because one doesn't simply learn a kekkei genkai technique. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:42, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I dunno. I just think that there's too much unknowns surrounding Gaara especially with the new revelations. It's listed that the manipulation seemingly stems from Shukaku, I think that'll do for now. At least for me.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:51, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
I get what your trying to say but then again Masashi Kishimoto does that sometimes
 
for example he gave [[Water Release: Great Water Arm Technique]] a rank (B if i remember correctly) we all know that it is derived from the Hozuki Clan's secret technique the [[Hydrification Technique]] which we all know is not supposed to be ranked. At the same time Gaara also used the [[Air Sand Protective Wall]] but it wasn't given a rank, nor was any other technique and I'm pretty sure Gaara wasn't slipping into his Version 1 or 2 forms when we saw him. My point is that we should list his abilities as a tailed beast skill the same was done with the [[Water Release: Great Water Arm Technique]], it is given a rank yet still listed as Hiden. As for the people who say that they shouldn't be listed as such because Gaara could use them even when he was revived, it's a ability that no one except a jinchuriki of Shukaku can use, causing The Third or Fourth Kazekage to create Iron Sand to '''imitate''' the abilities of a previous jinchuriki of the One-Tail
 
We don't know if any one like Roshi would retain them even if they were revived like Gaara, Kinkaku and Ginkaku could retain their Nine-Tailed forms even after death, with the help of no seal. All of this point towards the fact that they can indeed be listed as such.(P.s I the guy who started this discussion.) What do you guys say? [[Special:Contributions/119.73.75.64|119.73.75.64]] ([[User talk:119.73.75.64|talk]]) 10:17, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:I believe I have asked ShounenSuki or someone about this a while back. If I am to understand it correctly the innate ability to control sand is the Shukaku's power. The shield becoming an automatic shield around Gaara is his mother's love hijacking the Shukaku's power for her own end. All the jutsu Gaara came up with using sand are not technically tailed skills, but work based on a tailed beast skill.
 
:So basically
 
:#Controlling Sand is the power of the One-Tailed Beast
 
:#The sand protecting Gaara is the One-Tailed power hijacked by Gaara's mama
 
:#The jutsu Gaara made up using the sand is not a Tailed Beast skill--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Keeper of Lore~ ]] 11:35, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
::I agree with you. --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilnarutoanime]] -[[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|Neji]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|Loverr]]- 14:52, December 29, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
That's what I am arguing about, it is the ability of the One-Tailed Shukaku hence a tailed beast skill, I know about the Sand Shield but basically she's '''hijacking'''(who knows how?) it, the Sand shield is an application of the sand abilites of Shukaku though I'll have to think about it. Her love and will consists of only a small amount of Gaara's abilities and Gaara never used techniques except the Sand Shield based on her mother's love. About your argument that its not a tailed beast skill, well as I recall is "A tailed beast skill is a unique ability or trait used by tailed beasts" but if you still don't agree then I guess we should remove Roshi's Lava Release: Scorching Rock Stream Technique and his magma armor from being a tailed beast skill too huh? Roshi used Lava release ninjutsu because of Son Goku the same argument can be made that all of Roshi's lava jutsu are not technically tailed beast skills but based on a tailed beast skill, the ability to mix the Earth and Fire natures and create a new nature, Lava Release. (I don't get your argument if it's based on a tailed beast skill then its a tailed beast skill itself.)
 
 
@Ilnarutoanime: are you with him or me? --[[Special:Contributions/59.103.214.58|59.103.214.58]] ([[User talk:59.103.214.58|talk]]) 10:00, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
The single reason I oppose listing those techniques as tailed beast skills is because of that one ranked technique. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 17:50, December 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Didn't I explain that? Look at the discussion above. Masashi Kishimoto does that sometimes like the [[Water Release: Great Water Arm Technique]] for an example. You guys aren't giving that many good reasons for opposing this change. --[[Special:Contributions/59.103.213.139|59.103.213.139]] ([[User talk:59.103.213.139|talk]]) 08:22, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
::That Water Release technique wasn't a change over time like you're suggesting, this was a ranked hiden technique, the only exception to hiden techniques not having ranks, from the get-go. This wasn't something that he might have changed his mind over time. That wasn't an inconsistency that happened because thing a contradicted thing b said a long time ago. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 13:00, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:: I don't understand what you're saying. Can you say it a little simpler. [[Special:Contributions/119.73.77.208|119.73.77.208]] ([[User talk:119.73.77.208|talk]]) 11:43, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Unlike the examples other people gave of inconsistencies in technique ranking and categories, that Water Release technique already had an inconsistency right from the start, as it was called hiden and given a rank at the same time. This wasn't like some other technique that was called something at first and later called something else. The other person was trying to justify changing all of Gaara's sand techniques to tailed beast skill by saying that categorisation changes occur, using that Water Release as an example. I'm just showing that this didn't happen with that technique, as it had an unusual categorisation from the start, and therefore not an argument that would convince me to agree listing Gaara's sand techniques as tailed beast skill when one of them has a rank. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 13:30, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Er......Isn't that what the other person is talking about, he (or she) is saying that Masashi Kishimoto makes inconsistencies like that Hozuki Water Arm Technique and changes his mind. Also if I'm correct he (or she) pointed out that the Air Sky Sand Protective Wall or whatever was also used the same way and place and time so Masashi Kishimoto wasn't planning on that. Atleast thats what I think he means. [[Special:Contributions/119.73.69.228|119.73.69.228]] ([[User talk:119.73.69.228|talk]]) 13:50, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Oh and that Masashi Kishimoto made an inconsistency with this as technique and that they should be listed as tailed beast skills. [[Special:Contributions/119.73.69.228|119.73.69.228]] ([[User talk:119.73.69.228|talk]]) 13:52, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Omnibender: I don't understand what you're saying, are you suggesting this was something different at first and then shifted to something else? That the classification and rank of that [[Sand Binding Prison]] technique was changed over time? If so, can you please where it is said? Gaara used Air Sand protective Wall at the same time, why wasn't it given a rank? [[Special:Contributions/119.154.18.124|119.154.18.124]] ([[User talk:119.154.18.124|talk]]) 05:35, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:What I mean is that prior to that technique, none of Gaara's techniques had ever received a rank. Having a rank pretty much means the technique can be taught to anyone willing to learn it. Sure, there have been unranked techniques which look like they can be taught, but not of all them are like that. Gaara's sand techniques being unranked made sense because they derive from something he got from his tailed beast, meaning this isn't something others could potentially learn simply if they decided to learn. When the Third Databook came out, almost all of his techniques had no rank, but this one had. I'm not saying the rank of the technique changed over time, but the ranking profile of Gaara's techniques did, because one of them became ranked. I'm against listing Gaara's sand techniques as tailed beast skills today because one of the techniques that should be listed as such would end up as having a rank, which carries the meaning I spoke of. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:44, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Okay, I understand your point now, however, if suppose a Fourth Databook came out and Gaara's ranking profile retains no rank then will you consider this proposal? [[Special:Contributions/119.154.18.124|119.154.18.124]] ([[User talk:119.154.18.124|talk]]) 04:44, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Cloak. ==
 
 
With the recent releases showing the Jinchuriki with chakra shrouds, should we mention in Gaara's trivia that he is/was the only Jinchuriki not to be seen with a chakra shroud? I mean sure, we've seen him go Full Form, but we've also seen Bee go Full Form but also have seen him with a shroud. I think it may be trivia worthy if anyone else agrees? [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 15:04, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:I think that is mentioned in his transformations page already. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:24, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
These are the only things I found about it on his transformations page:
 
 
"Much like Naruto's fox shaped chakra cloak, the sand is capable of absorbing a wide variety of attacks. However, the defence given to his body still has one weak spot."
 
 
"Gaara's jinchūriki forms are noticeably different from others' in that it's not made of pure chakra, but of sand. It is, however, possible that the forms that Gaara has shown are partial transformations."
 
 
No mention of how he was never seen with the chakra shroud, just that he gets covered in sand not the raw chakra. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 04:38, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Maybe it takes less control for Gaara to use partial transformation and shield/armor of sand than chakra cloaks since the sand is imbued with chakra most of times and for Shukaku's body being from sand.
 
For 8 Tailed Beasts being able to provide chakra cloaks to their host, and one being different would make Shukaku really unique.
 
So I think Shukaku is like other 8, just Gaara can't use chakra cloak or it's not his style.
 
For example now Naruto's has control over Nine-Tail's chakra but we have not seen him doing a partial transformation or going to version 1/version 2 on his own ... it happened only when the Kyubi triggered it.
 
 
So to put it short I see it as lack of control or a preference but don't want to speculate much.
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 05:48, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
How is the second quote you put not an indication he doesn't use a regular chakra shroud? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:42, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
-sigh- That's my whole entire point Omni. He's the ONLY one who doesn't use a normal one. Why shouldn't it be a part of the trivia? Naruto doesn't grow fur in any partial transformations, as with the others, they also don't grow or get covered in anything reminiscent of their respected beasts. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 13:18, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
:In the trivia of his article maybe, but nothing very elaborate. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 14:11, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
Would you like to place it? I wouldn't know how to exactly word it without over-explaining it. As you can see, it was hard enough trying to explain here.. -_- [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 22:35, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:Garra has never intentionally gone full like bee so its still a different situation, I don't think garra trust shukaku so he doesn't accept all of shukaku chakra and willingly become shukaku he'd rather make an imitation shukaku. {{unsigned|Solorflare99}}
 
 
== Moniker ==
 
 
Deidara refers to him as "Sand Jinchūriki" in episode 29 of Shippuden. Should it be counted as a moniker? --[[Special:Contributions/93.86.115.139|93.86.115.139]] ([[User talk:93.86.115.139|talk]]) 02:48, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:No, not really. That's more of a generic name for any jinchūriki— Cloud jinchūriki, Mist jinchūriki, Stone jinchūriki etc...--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 03:03, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I'm curios if the statement, if not a given moniker from the 2nd Mizukage to Gaara, "The Golden Egg of the Kage" would be applicable to be considered a moniker for Gaara. I mean, it seems like something that would stick to Gaara for the rest of his life, similar to Hanzo giving Hiruzen's students the titles of "Sannin." I was just curious. --[[User:Needingetting|Needingetting]] ([[User talk:Needingetting|talk]]) 01:29, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Why exactly O.o? The Mizukage is sealed, no one heard him call him a golden egg (except possibly Naruto who has more than likely forgotten this by now) Gaara is also not the type of person to go around calling himself such.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 01:35, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== tools ==
 
 
Why is Gaara's one time use of Gold Dust noted as one of his tools, but Killer B's usage of kubikiribocho or Kisame use of Killer B's swords not noted? They're the same thing.--[[Special:Contributions/76.92.243.71|76.92.243.71]] ([[User talk:76.92.243.71|talk]]) 04:16, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Gaara's display picture ==
 
 
Can we have a more recent picture of Gaara for this article? After all, a photograph should show how a person looks now instead of showing how he looked a few years back! --Dipendra 14:09, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
Dipendra 14:09, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
:This wiki has decided that an infobox image should show the characters initial look, so the image cover the entire series. Part I characters that returns in part II has an part II appearance in the appearance section. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 14:21, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Gaara's uncle ==
 
 
Did Gaara's uncle want to kill him because of hatred of killing his sister or he didnt mean it and he was just on a mission from the Kazekage?[[User:Erin.arthur|E.N.A]] ([[User talk:Erin.arthur|talk]]) 22:51, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
:[[Yashamaru]] never hated Gaara. He said those things on the orders of the Fourth to test his nephew as to whether or not he could keep from losing control.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 23:01, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Im guessing he failed. thank you.[[User:Erin.arthur|E.N.A]] ([[User talk:Erin.arthur|talk]]) 00:10, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
You could have learned that by reading the relevant articles instead of asking. People wrote it so it could be read. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 11:24, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Infobox Image ==
 
 
[[File:Gaara mugshot.jpg|thumb|New Gaara image]] Is the image on the thumbnail to the right better for the Gaara infobox? It's more focused on Gaara than the current image imo. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 18:39, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I prefer the current image. In this one, Gaara's face seems too broad, and in the current image, the angle does a better job in showcasing the kanji. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:52, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I feel the current one has too much stuff that is unneeded in the background. The new image makes it more centralised on Gaara and I can still see the kanji quite well in this new image. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 18:58, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I don;t think there;s anything wrong with the background in the first one. It's not like it's drawing your attention to it. You can also see the kanji on his forehead better.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]]19:57, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I guess there's some sort of thing where any suggestion to update the infobox image made by me is rejected for some lame reason. -.- --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 20:01, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::It's not ignored, two users answered you. Keep trying though, i'm still hopeful to find a replacement for [[Chōji]]'s ;) --[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 20:08, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::Oops, I meant "rejected" :P. I'll see if I can find a good Choji image, since I am right now watching all of the Naruto DVD's to get possible replacement images :) --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 20:10, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Gaara used doton? ==
 
 
in the episode "The Ultimate Weapon Reborn" he used hiding like a mole technique to avoid the wind...so does this mean he has doton?
 
here is a link http://www.narutoget.com/watch/572-naruto-episode-219-english-subbed/
 
[[User:Inhale|Inhale]] ([[User talk:Inhale|talk]]) 18:44, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:He does weave hand-seals before going underground. Doesn't have to be that one though, it could be the same technique Team Oboro used, or the one Kisame used. This requires some discussion. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:24, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Yes, it was most likely [[Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique|this]]
 
 
EDIT: @Omni, it was most likely not those because:
 
* [[Earth Release: Underground Projection Fish Technique|this is for sneaking]]
 
* [[Earth Release: Subterranean Voyage|this transforms earth into a fluid, Gaara did not]]
 
* [[Earth Release: Hiding in Rock Technique|this takes on a texture of the surrounding]]
 
* [[Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique|description and appearance of this fits the most]]
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:09, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
While I agree that out of the four, that one seems the one most like what Gaara did, we have to go through the possibilities. And that one can also be used for sneaking, Deidara used it to sneak out of Team Guy when he used it with a clone. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:27, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
You decide ; )
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:35, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I believe it's Hiding Like a Mole as well, at first I thought it was simply Gaara controlling the sand below his feet in an unusual way, but them I saw that it wasn't sand, but regular rock and ground. This isn't something one person alone can decide, others should have the opportunity to chime in. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:53, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Hmm ... Earth + Wind = Sand !!!
 
I think as long as there's not someone that dislike the idea, go for it ... you are an admin after all : )
 
We might wait a day or so for more comments to come though ; D
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:00, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So ?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:53, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Nooooo no no nooooo. Utterly against this.
 
 
First of all other shinobi have gone underground before without it being labelled as Earth Release- I remember that being said somewhere that it's not impossible. Sai did it when he went to speak with Orochimaru for example. Orochimaru himself did it when spying on Team 7.
 
 
Secondly where Gaara goes underground, it simply looks like him breaking down the surface of the earth into sand and then submerging himself in it and then reappearing. I believe that it was in that very same filler arc that he said he is able to break down earth and mix this with his own to create even more sand.
 
 
Saying that Gaara uses Earth Release is opening a can of worms I don't think we should call down on ourselves.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Well, it was clarly meant to be Earth Release.
 
But it's a filler, so if Kurama has fire release then I dont see the problem with this--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:26, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:How exactly is it "clearly meant to be earth release" when I just provided plausible explanation that it's simply sand? There's a lot more to consider where Gaara is concerned that Kurama and just arbitrarily handing out nature transformations to people. Kurama and Gaara aren't the same.
 
:If you check episode 220 you'll see where Gaara says what I stated before as he begins breaking down the earth to form sand. It's not far-fetched that he did the same thing to protect himself.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:32, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
He had no sand in that scene ... he created it after to shield Naruto
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 18:30, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Like I said before, he stated he was able to break down rocks and minerals into sand.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:16, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
And how you think he do it ? Earth release makes sense
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:20, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
:How does it make more sense if he never indicated it was Doton and has never used it before? Cerez's point makes more sense given what we know about Gaara's abilities. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:25, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
He made no mention of using Earth Release there. Just simply that he could create sand through that method. During his fight with Kimimaro, Gaara could be said to have done something similar and summoned a huge amount of sand from underground. As far as I know, that was never considered Earth Release, nor were they at a sandy area like in the SWWIV.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 17:37, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
I think it is pretty obvious that he didn't use Earth Release. Gaara's chakra is messed up and he doesn't have the strength in this specific moment to use any chakra move that requires to consume a great amount of chakra , that would be need to avoid this attack (by blocking with some sort of sand wall , shield etc.). So he just used the sand there was around him. He dug himself underground of a moment and then shown up. This technique would require a too small amount of chakra , so he used this. [[User:ISEN|ISEN]] ([[User talk:ISEN|talk]])
 
 
And here's [http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4183/gaarawn.jpg a picture]] I found of Gaara exiting the ground. Note all of the ''sand''. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:45, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
"I believe that it was in that very same filler arc that he said he is able to break down earth and mix this with his own to create even more sand" Quoted from Cerez. I would just like to indicate that it wasn't just that filler arc where this has been mentioned, in his fight with Kimimaro which has been referenced above, Gaara specifically stated that he can break down minerals in the ground to create sand, in particular the hardest minerals in the ground to create the hardest shield, that mini-shukaku thing that Kimimaro failed to bust through. Now while I could go on a tirade about the definition of sand and whether or not Gaara can control any substance of that consistency, all previous notes on his ability do point to this simply being him dodging the attack by reducing the ground beneath him to sand. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 17:49, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
"This technique changes earth into fine sand by channelling chakra into it, allowing the user to dig through it like a mole. This effect goes around the body (not just the hands), making it just large enough for a person to move through. The user can pinpoint where they are, despite being underground, by sensing the magnetic forces. They can also sense what is happening on the surface and use that information to launch a surprise attack on the enemy.[2][3][4] One can also hide deep in the ground, escaping to a depth where the enemy can't reach. It also appears that after digging, the ground can be returned to its original state, leaving no trace of where the user entered the earth.[5]"
 
--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:40, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Hawkeye: I actually had the vs. Kimimaro reference but I removed it because I couldn't bother to verify that was what was said.
 
@Eleveonora: ? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:59, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
I'm not disputing the fact that Gaara may have nature transformations especially given recent revelations about his heritage etc but I don't think this is a good enough case to cite him as an Earth Release user.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:59, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
sand is basically ground up rock
 
Sand=Stone
 
Stone=Earth
 
Earth manipulation = doton[[User:Inhale|Inhale]] ([[User talk:Inhale|talk]]) 23:03, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
@Cerez, that's the description of Earth Release: Hiding like a mole ... it does not contradict what was shown --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:38, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Neither does it contradict what Gaara has done before— in the manga— which has never been labelled earth release.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:42, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Pretty much, I don't care one way or other.
 
It matter little if we list him as a Earth Release user or not. The manga never stated Kurama has wind release either, just that a single swing of it's tail can create tsunami and earthquakes or something akin to that. Also it's chakra is hot, the animators took that as Wind and Fire release ... I don't see how he can break the minerals without earth release or something + what he has shown fits the description of hiding like a mole technique--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 23:52, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Last I checked Kurama's chakra is corrosive, not hot. But since we've found a plausible explanation for what he did, I'd say this topic is pretty much concluded. Not because a technique looks like something means it is. Kabuto and his current pirated techniques are a prime example of that.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:02, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Sensor? ==
 
 
His ability to track has been added as a sensory technique on the sensor page, should he be called a sensor or is that being left solely to those who sense chakra itself, not a contact type?
 
 
--[[User:Kotoamatsukami|Kotoamatsukami]] ([[User talk:Kotoamatsukami|talk]]) 18:22, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:Gaara is not a sensor based on just one technique. I would presume someone is classified as a sensor because they have much more sensitive chakra. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 18:23, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Persons are not being classified as sensors outside of using the "traditional" [[Chakra Sensing Technique]], something similar, or else is called a sensor.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:29, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Karin is: [[Mind's Eye of the Kagura]]. What I'm asking is what the requirements to be called a sensor are because Gaara can sense but in an alternative way.
 
::@ Cerez, fair enough. i was just unsure.
 
 
--[[User:Kotoamatsukami|Kotoamatsukami]] ([[User talk:Kotoamatsukami|talk]]) 18:33, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
:One with the ability ro detect chakra is an actual sensor. The detection is like another sense (a la Ki sensing in DBZ). Gaara does not do this. [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 03:51, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
::^That's much clearer lol. The ability to detect chakra = sensor classification.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:15, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Third eye affected by genjutsu? ==
 
 
when mizukage placed the entire battlefield under a genjutsu, it looked like the third eye could see where the mizukage was. does this mean it isn't affected by genjutsu :S--{{Unsigned|Inhale}}
 
:Gaara only used the eye after Captain Awesome's genjutsu had ended. Remember he was fighting the mirage so it seems more like Gaara simply left the eye near Ōnoki so he could keep an ''eye'' on him.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:45, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Gaara speed and reaction time ==
 
 
 
but i was re-watching the gaara and lee fight and noticed Within a split second he escaped from a high level Taijutsu attack and positioned himself hidden and behind Lee.[[User:Inhale|Inhale]] ([[User talk:Inhale|talk]]) 01:13, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, I think it's written. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|Indxcv]][[w:c:Naruto:User:IndxcvNovelist/Links|Novelist]] ([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|Talk to Me]]|[[w:c:rockleesheishun|My Wiki]]) 01:18, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
oh .____. [[User:Inhale|Inhale]] ([[User talk:Inhale|talk]]) 01:21, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== How does Gaara control sand? ==
 
 
How does Gaara control sand? Is it by his wind nature, or is it a kekkei genkai?{{unsigned|Devster12}}
 
 
neither as it has never been stated as such. the only explanation given was that gaara infused large amounts of chakra into the sand to give him control over it, it's an ability granted to him and any other host of [[Shukaku]].[[Special:Contributions/71.71.58.181|71.71.58.181]] ([[User talk:71.71.58.181|talk]]) 08:06, July 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan
 
 
Since Shukaku is gone, it may have something to do with his mother protecting him and shit--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 12:35, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Just read the article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:44, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
But his father also could control sand and even gold dust, and he didn't even possess the Shukaku. - [[User:Devster12|Devster12]] ([[User talk:Devster12|talk]]) 21:51, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
His father had Magnet Release--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:20, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Gaara's father could only control gold dust Devster12, not sand. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:48, July 4, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Oh, well this is so discombobulating x3 - [[User:Devster12|Devster12]] ([[User talk:Devster12|talk]]) 00:34, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Kankurō not listed in family? ==
 
 
Has anyone else noticed that Kankurō is not listed as Gaara's brother in the "Family" section on the side bar of this page? Look closely also at the other members of the family, because I think there were mistakes in the family listings in those, as well. --[[User:ScruffyC|ScruffyC]] ([[User talk:ScruffyC|talk]]) 05:42, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
:He isn't there for me either. Must be a glitch, so it should sort itself out soon.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:37, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Ah, just a glitch, okay. I wondered how something could be overlooked for so long xD. --[[User:ScruffyC|ScruffyC]] ([[User talk:ScruffyC|talk]]) 03:13, September 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Yup. There are a lot of problems due to the MediaWiki upgrade.{{User:UltimateSupreme/Sig}} 03:31, September 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Golden Kid of the Kage ==
 
 
I think it should be stated in the different names section in info box for Gaara, that he was also referred to as the "Golden Child of the Kage". Even if it was from one person (second mizukage), its still a title. After all Ino is the only one who calls Sakura "Billboard Forehead" yet its up there for her. --[[User:Kyle Ethan|Kyle Ethan]] ([[User talk:Kyle Ethan|talk]]) 13:19, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Actually, the correct translation is Golden Egg.{{unsigned|The Fox King}}
 
::It's not really a moniker either. It's just how Captain Awesome speaks/says stuff.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:58, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== another name for Gaara: ==
 
 
I reckon the admins of this page should add in "The Golden Egg" in the other names box. really, it is a title for him, said by the mizukage ! :) it deserves to be there, especially since other characters have them sort of titles in their boxes too{{unsigned|138.130.73.175}}
 
:First, sign your posts by writing (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or pressing the signature bottom. Second, read the topic above to find your answer. That's all —[[User:Shakhmoot|<font color="blue">'''Shakhmoot'''</font>]] [[File:Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg|20px]] [[User_talk:Shakhmoot|<sub>(Talk)</sub>]] 12:14, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Etymology of his name ==
 
 
Although this is probably a very old topic and of course has never received confirmation, but isn't it extremely likely that Gaara's name comes from Arabic َغَار ''ghāra'' "to be jealous". It seems to make a lot of sense based on his backstory and the fact that he is from a desert area. If people are willing to accept this, it could be added to the trivia section.
 
[[User:Raigerzero|Raigerzero]] ([[User talk:Raigerzero|talk]]) 20:57, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:I though we already knew where his name came from, the "loving yourself" Asura or something. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:30, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Gaara's age in Part II ==
 
 
Do we KNOW he was 15 when Part II started? All that we know is that Naruto was 15, and therefore anyone whose birthday is after Naruto's.
 
--[[User:ScruffyC|ScruffyC]] ([[User talk:ScruffyC|talk]]) 15:28, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Yes, as Naruto was 15 at the start of Part II, Gaara who's birthday is like 10 months prior must also be 15.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:31, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Besides, the third databook stated that Gaara was 15 in Shippuden. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] | [[User talk:Jacce|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jacce|Contributions]] 15:36, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Yes. it's sourced to have come from 3rd databook. Next time please, don't go on changing things unless you are sure. If you aren't, check history and references or ask--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:37, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
Oh, okay. I thought the databooks only gave the current ages of each character at the time of entry, since we haven't put Shino, for example, as being 15-17 in Part II.
 
--[[User:ScruffyC|ScruffyC]] ([[User talk:ScruffyC|talk]]) 14:33, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Magnet Release Edit

Gaara uses Magnet Release in Gaara Hiden. Currently translating the chapter and it should be out fully tonight. Magnet Release should be added to his infobox with a novel only tag, right? --EmotionalRockfish (talk) 04:46, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Before that I'd like to read the fully translated chapter.--JOA2004:48, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
He uses Magnet Release in the novel? Oh good lord...
WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 04:48, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

What involvement does Kishi have with the Hiden? Did he give the A-Ok to the author? If he gave his thumbs up, or had involvement himself it may be canon, if not then it is novel only.. although it's been awhile now people still think he has Magnet Release anyway.. QuakingStar (talk) 04:51, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think everything else is being given novel only tags atm, so it's probably safer to just do that. I know Kishi illustrated the covers of the books, but I'm unsure of how canon they are. And yeah, I'll link the translation when it's done. --EmotionalRockfish (talk) 04:57, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
Can you take a picture of the Japanese pls? I want to read it with my own eyes ._. I mean, the novels still are just novels, so they don't count anyway, but still... I want to punch a hole in a wall :D • Seelentau 愛 05:22, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
I mean, Thrall's Balls, man, do we have to go through another round of "Does Gaara have Magnet Release" again? Ugh. WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 05:35, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
Sure thing.For context, Gaara's fighting against someone who manages to get through his shield, and the book previously made a point that everyone's hiden jutsu were revealed in the war. Which is important because this is the only secret jutsu he has left that no one knows about.
http://i.imgur.com/O6TluHz.jpg
Important stuff starts around the paragraph in the middle with 'だが'.--EmotionalRockfish (talk) 06:05, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

だが、〈砂の盾〉は、その槍をことごとく防ぎきった。我愛羅が父より受け継いだ、磁遁である。
No idea how to translate the first sentence, lol. Something about a spear and the shield of sand. Second sentence is "Magnet Release is what Gaara inherited from his father.". fcking sigh. • Seelentau 愛 06:37, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I swear, the author wrote this novel after watching the last shitstorm on this wiki about Gaara and Magnet Release, just to rub it into our faces once more. Now what? Tag him with "Magnet Release - Novel only"? Do we tag all sand techniques with the same? This is going to suck so much.... Norleon (talk) 06:53, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
No. The book also states that "That single measure was something he hadn’t used before until now, his father’s jutsu." (by OD-chan). He can just control iron sand in addition to his normal sand control. Sand control still isn't Magnet Release. Just to clarify that^^ • Seelentau 愛 07:01, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

eer, I just checked Magnet Release and "This is further reinforced when the Gaara Hiden: A Sandstorm Mirage novel stated that none of Rasa's child inherited his Magnet Release."??? What is the truth now? • Seelentau 愛 07:10, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

The line in chapter 4 is, "The truth was that neither of the three sand siblings had inherited the Fourth Kazekage's jutsu." Without knowing more of the context in chapter 5, I don't know how to reconcile the two. ~SnapperTo 07:18, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Gonna reply to everything here.

1. That first sentence is 'However, the shield completely defended against the spear.' But yep. It later says 'A shield of sparkling metal particles repelled the spear of water.' I had to read that part before I was 100% certain.

2. Seelentau is right about that. He's never used this before, so it's got nothing to do with his sand manipulation.

3. The book was probably lying? This comes later in chapter 5, so I'd take this as the truth. The fact that this is supposed to be a surprise is pretty important, I think. Probably trying to get you to think he didn't have it, then... bam.--EmotionalRockfish (talk) 08:09, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

More info please> Also does it mention what natures Magnet consists of? Just wondering if it confirms Wind and Earth.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 11:39, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Gaara has Magnet Release, who cares. If he didn't get it from his dad he should have gotten it from Shukaku anyways... QuakingStar (talk) 17:28, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Not seeing the big deal....if this is true, let's just tag him as ~novel only and be on our mary way.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 20:58, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

The big deal is that its a dream come true. Alota people were saying he possessed Magnet Release even before it was confirmed...this is like History in the Making. Also, since the writer for the Gaara Hiden novel is worked with Kishi on the Boruto Movie (saw it somewhere on the wiki), we can expect to see Gaara using the Magnet Release (hopefully!) in the film. --Kyle Ethan (talk) 21:08, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

The book says nothing about the individual natures, unfortunately. --EmotionalRockfish (talk) 14:51, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

It's pretty simple. Jin no Sho listed only three basic natures for Gaara: Wind, Lightning & Earth. His father has: Wind, Earth, Water & Yin. The two share: Wind & Earth. Problem solved.--JOA2015:11, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
Gaara's natures have no influence on this, though. Even if he didn't have earth or wind, Magnet Release would still be made up of those. • Seelentau 愛 15:24, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
I know all of that, still paranoid about a possible error though. Maybe they omitted Lightning for Rasa by an accident and it's actually Lightning+Earth or hell Lightning+Wind. @Seel, not unless he too has Magnet Release.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 15:25, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

The novels are a part of the New Era Project, correct? If so, they are canon. Not novel-canon. Just canon. It's a sad thing we've been in denial for this long.--Reliops (talk) 09:33, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Applying this flawed logic, the Naruto live play is also canon? >.>--Omojuze (talk) 09:51, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
I don't recall the live plays being mentioned as part of New Era Project. Do you?--Reliops (talk) 09:55, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Naruto Project, 2015 first on the list >.>--Omojuze (talk) 10:00, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Am I understand you correctly if you were referring to an re-enactment of canon story material as your argument? If so: wat.--Reliops (talk) 11:16, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
That's still not what canon is~ • Seelentau 愛 11:37, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
The live-play is an re-enactment. That doesn't mean the story material isn't canon - it already was. Also listed under the New Era Project banner we have The Last, the Boruto movie and a bunch of info books - all of which are canon. That means the novels must be too. By what logic are you proposing to picking and choosing what is and is not canon?--Reliops (talk) 19:52, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
No, that's not the logic we're using. We're using the logic that the original material (the manga) is the canon. Everything that's adapted from it (movies, games, novels, ...) is not canon. The only exception are The Last (chapter 699.5) and Boruto The Movie (because Kishimoto declared it canon). • Seelentau 愛 20:19, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Who is this "we" you're referring to? Regardless, your logic is faulty - that's a matter of fact. As is the fact that the New Era Project is an extension of the franchise and all that falls under it is canonical. This goes for the movies, the data books, and yes, the novels. There is no picking and choosing based on preference.--Reliops (talk) 21:17, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
The wiki, of course. If you can give me proof that everything that's part of the Naruto Project is said to be part of the manga, then please do so. • Seelentau 愛 21:20, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Two editors cannot speak on behalf of the entire wiki. The proof is right in front of you. The novels, data books and The Last fill in the gaps in between 699 and 700. The Boruto movie carries on the franchise and its companion info books provide additional information. All of this falls under the same banner. They all fill in the void. By what hair-brained logic have you come to deduce the novels are not canonical? There is no reasonable explanation other than your inherit bias against being wrong, which shouldn't surprise me since obstinance and pleading ignorance when convenient is your MO for dealing with arguments you know you can't win.--Reliops (talk) 22:51, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
No proof for your words and personal attacks instead. Just what I expected. Go insult someone else please, I don't have time for your antics. Thanks <3 • Seelentau 愛 23:05, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Hello!? 1st: Calm your tits. 2nd: The novels contradict with the canon, so no, they are not canon, this information is enough to say that. 3rd: The discussion about the canonicity of the novels (and how we will handle them) already happened, quite a while ago, and it was decided this way. Just because you missed it, doesn't mean you can go on a rant because of it. 4th: You say 2pple. Well. You're just one person. Also, wiki(s) are not a place for democracy, believe me, I've learned it the hard way.--Omojuze (talk) 23:07, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

How do they contradict canon? I thought the only rationale to consider them non-canon was that they are written by 3rd part authors.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 23:36, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sakura Hiden - Sasuke has a second arm, Canon Storyline: He doesn't :)--Omojuze (talk) 23:48, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
Proof?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 23:57, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sensor Type Edit

Since when? Does that also come from Gaara Hiden?--BeyondRed (talk) 18:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Na, but he used sensing sand. • Seelentau 愛 19:11, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Concealed Sand Picture Cat is a sensing technique.--Omojuze (talk) 20:25, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
I was under the impression we only considered those with an innate ability to sense chakra to be sensor types. Sage Mode is also a sensing technique, yet its users are not listed as sensors (not for that reason, anyway).--BeyondRed (talk) 20:56, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Because Sage Mode is not a sensory technique. Sensing Technique is a sensory technique too. This one is just a fancy variation of it, as to say.--Omojuze (talk) 21:04, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Well, technically Gaara really just uses his chakra sand to check the area and if it touches something, he knows that it's there. He can't sense chakra or people by himself, so I wouldn't say for sure that it's a sensing technique. The databook calls it a "physical sensing technique", by the way. • Seelentau 愛 21:07, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
contact sensing technique. Just implies a fancy way of doing it tbh.--Omojuze (talk) 21:10, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Well, he obviously can't sense chakra with it, so there's the difference to actually sensing someone. • Seelentau 愛 21:16, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Not true... I think. Can't he sense who's chakra is it, like he did with and the Giant Clam?--Omojuze (talk) 21:18, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Not according to the databook. Dunno what the manga says, haven't read those parts in a long time. • Seelentau 愛 21:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, the databook says nothing about it, with the exception of it being a sensing technique.--Omojuze (talk) 21:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

According to its debut in the databook, Gaara didn't even use Concealed Sand Picture Cat until he found the clam, meaning he used a different technique to detect Mū. Then again, some of those debuts are blatantly wrong, so who knows?--BeyondRed (talk) 21:30, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

The databook says that the sand clings to the enemy to reveal its outline. Nothing about chakra. • Seelentau 愛 21:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
Guess it needs to sense the chakra to know where the enemy is.. Honestly, I'm picking straws here. "Sensory Technique", however, says enough that it does, in fact, sense. But what, I have no idea then >.>--Omojuze (talk) 21:34, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
It is a sensing technique, just not one that senses chakra. Does that make Gaara a sensor type? No idea. • Seelentau 愛 21:36, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Sparkling Metallic Sand Edit

In the "Gaara Hiden", Gaara uses sparkling metallic sand. Sand, Iron Sand, Gold Dust... Perhaps, we should create a page for this "Metal Sand". --Sharingan91 (talk) 08:32, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Not enough info. An article for a single (may I add speculative) sentence when it can be mentioned in the character's page is enough, at least for me anyways.--Omojuze (talk) 09:00, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
Not only that, wasn't it a simple add-on to pre-existing technique? A seperate article is unnecessary if that's the case.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 13:22, August 2, 2015 (UTC)
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