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The sage mode is only used by toad summoners so why is this called frog kata?
 
The sage mode is only used by toad summoners so why is this called frog kata?
   
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== Jiraiya ==
== jiraiya was able to use sage mode, so shouldn't he be added to the users panel ==
 
   
 
he was sage mode--[[User:Seashark97|Seashark97]] ([[User talk:Seashark97|talk]]) 09:22, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
 
he was sage mode--[[User:Seashark97|Seashark97]] ([[User talk:Seashark97|talk]]) 09:22, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
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==Name==
 
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By kata, do they mean the english word or is it japanese? --[[User:WhiteArmor|<span style="color: #778899;">'''WhiteArmor'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:WhiteArmor|<span style="font-size:100%; font-family: Didot; color: #778899">(Talk)</span>]] 04:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
By kata, do they mean the english word or is it japanese? --[[User:WhiteArmor|<span style="color: #778899;">'''WhiteArmor'''</span>]] [[w:c:Bleach:User talk:WhiteArmor|<span style="font-size:100%; font-family: Didot; color: #778899">(Talk)</span>]] 04:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:As far as I know, the only way ''kata'' is used in English is as a Japanese loanword, referring to the various stances and poses used in martial arts. This is how it is used in the name of this article. So technically, you could say it's both English and Japanese. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 12:27, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:As far as I know, the only way ''kata'' is used in English is as a Japanese loanword, referring to the various stances and poses used in martial arts. This is how it is used in the name of this article. So technically, you could say it's both English and Japanese. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 12:27, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
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== Natural energy ==
 
== Natural energy ==
   
Why are people writing assumptions about natural energy taking shape as some sort of cloak when the frog said the fighting style is just something that uses the existing Sage chakra?
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Why are people writing assumptions about natural energy taking shape as some sort of cloak when the frog said the fighting style is just something that uses the existing Sage chakra?--[[User:Wreiad|Wreiad]] ([[User talk:Wreiad|talk]]) 18:30, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Wreiad|Wreiad]] ([[User talk:Wreiad|talk]]) 18:30, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
== By deductive ,, ==
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== Deduction ==
   
According to what Fukasaku ,That Naruto ,in Sage Mode ,Can be controlled with air around it ,So, I think that must be Jutsu (Range: all renges),Because as long as Naruto, can prevent the air around him for a weapon,I think he can hit his opponent after the air by about a discount.What do you think of this ??
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According to what Fukasaku ,That Naruto ,in Sage Mode ,Can be controlled with air around it ,So, I think that must be Jutsu (Range: all renges),Because as long as Naruto, can prevent the air around him for a weapon,I think he can hit his opponent after the air by about a discount.What do you think of this ??--[[User:Dark Flash 55|Dark Flash 55]] ([[User talk:Dark Flash 55|talk]]) 06:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
   
 
== Kata Kumite ==
[[User:Dark Flash 55|Dark Flash 55]] ([[User talk:Dark Flash 55|talk]]) 06:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Kata =!= Kumite ==
 
   
 
The japanese for this is Kawazu Kumite. Now, I am not a martial artist, but I know that kumite and kata are two different things. Kumite is sparring, and kata is practising the forms and techniques. So, even though I'm in favour of just leaving the name in Japanese (Kawazu Kumite), if you really insist on having the name translated into english, wouldn't something like Toad Sparring or Toad Combat be more suitable?--[[User:Junaid-Sennin|Junaid-Sennin]] ([[User talk:Junaid-Sennin|talk]]) 09:44, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
The japanese for this is Kawazu Kumite. Now, I am not a martial artist, but I know that kumite and kata are two different things. Kumite is sparring, and kata is practising the forms and techniques. So, even though I'm in favour of just leaving the name in Japanese (Kawazu Kumite), if you really insist on having the name translated into english, wouldn't something like Toad Sparring or Toad Combat be more suitable?--[[User:Junaid-Sennin|Junaid-Sennin]] ([[User talk:Junaid-Sennin|talk]]) 09:44, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
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Someone else removed it by the way (read: not me :P ) [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
Someone else removed it by the way (read: not me :P ) [[User:Skitts|Skitts]] ([[User talk:Skitts|talk]]) 17:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
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== Toad sage mode ==
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I thought that only those who practised the toad sage mode are the ones who can use the frog kata so why does it say in the article that all those who who can use the sage mode are capable of using?--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 19:42, February 23, 2013 (UTC)-
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:Fixed. At the time this was written Toad Sages were the only ones that had been seen. [[User:Arrancar79|Arrancar79]] ([[User talk:Arrancar79|talk]]) 20:07, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
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This technique is being taught by toads, but I don't see a reason why Kabuto for example shouldn't be able to learn this--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:05, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
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Yea i know but all we ever seen is naruto using this technique after being taught to him by the toads.--[[User:Charmanking2198|Charmanking2198]] ([[User talk:Charmanking2198|talk]]) 20:09, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
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== Total Mastery ==
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Is it actually required to use Toad Kumite? I don't recall that being expressly stated, so I checked 420 again and it wasn't stated in that chapter either. Do the raws state differently?--[[User:Reliops|Reliops]] ([[User talk:Reliops|talk]]) 22:51, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
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:Frog Kata isn't only a specific technique, it's the style. It's like Gentle Fist or Strong Fist. I believe the mastery part comes from the fact Jiraiya didn't display it, having an imperfect Sage Mode. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:02, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

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Frog Katas

Does It Increase The Range Too ? —This unsigned comment was made by Maaytah‎ (talkcontribs) .

Shouldn't it be toad katas?

The sage mode is only used by toad summoners so why is this called frog kata?

Jiraiya

he was sage mode--Seashark97 (talk) 09:22, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Jiraiya was able to use Sage Mode, but that doesn't necessarily mean he could use Frog Kata. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 19:12, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

that kick he dealt to the first Animal Realm when he was in sage mode might want to be considered... I've seen this wiki run with far less plausible speculations.

If it does it should have a presumed note in it, but I wouldn't add it anyway. Jiraiya was said not to be able to perfectly balance his chakra with natural energy, and frog katas are all about using natural energy. I'd wait for a databook or an interview confirming it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:30, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Name

By kata, do they mean the english word or is it japanese? --WhiteArmor (Talk) 04:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know, the only way kata is used in English is as a Japanese loanword, referring to the various stances and poses used in martial arts. This is how it is used in the name of this article. So technically, you could say it's both English and Japanese. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 12:27, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Natural energy

Why are people writing assumptions about natural energy taking shape as some sort of cloak when the frog said the fighting style is just something that uses the existing Sage chakra?--Wreiad (talk) 18:30, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Deduction

According to what Fukasaku ,That Naruto ,in Sage Mode ,Can be controlled with air around it ,So, I think that must be Jutsu (Range: all renges),Because as long as Naruto, can prevent the air around him for a weapon,I think he can hit his opponent after the air by about a discount.What do you think of this ??--Dark Flash 55 (talk) 06:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Kata ≠ Kumite

The japanese for this is Kawazu Kumite. Now, I am not a martial artist, but I know that kumite and kata are two different things. Kumite is sparring, and kata is practising the forms and techniques. So, even though I'm in favour of just leaving the name in Japanese (Kawazu Kumite), if you really insist on having the name translated into english, wouldn't something like Toad Sparring or Toad Combat be more suitable?--Junaid-Sennin (talk) 09:44, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, kata are single stances and forms, whereas kumite is doing these stances and forms successively. Kumite isn't used a lot in English, so we used the more regularly used kata in plural. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 12:00, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Chakra Enhanced Strength?

In the article, chakra enhanced strength is linked to as being one of the enhancements afforded by sage mode. While Sage Mode does increase one's strength, it isn't quite the same as CES is it? Not sure if that should be there. Skitts (talk) 16:58, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Essentially it is chakra enhanced strength. Well at least, I can see why it's linked sorta like how a "see also" section would function. I think it can stay as long as it's not listed as a parent tech or something like that.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol 17:07, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Someone else removed it by the way (read: not me :P ) Skitts (talk) 17:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC)


Toad sage mode

I thought that only those who practised the toad sage mode are the ones who can use the frog kata so why does it say in the article that all those who who can use the sage mode are capable of using?--Charmanking2198 (talk) 19:42, February 23, 2013 (UTC)-

Fixed. At the time this was written Toad Sages were the only ones that had been seen. Arrancar79 (talk) 20:07, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

This technique is being taught by toads, but I don't see a reason why Kabuto for example shouldn't be able to learn this--Elveonora (talk) 20:05, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yea i know but all we ever seen is naruto using this technique after being taught to him by the toads.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 20:09, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Total Mastery

Is it actually required to use Toad Kumite? I don't recall that being expressly stated, so I checked 420 again and it wasn't stated in that chapter either. Do the raws state differently?--Reliops (talk) 22:51, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Frog Kata isn't only a specific technique, it's the style. It's like Gentle Fist or Strong Fist. I believe the mastery part comes from the fact Jiraiya didn't display it, having an imperfect Sage Mode. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:02, February 22, 2014 (UTC)