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==Mangekyo Sharingan ==
 
shouldn't Mangekyo Sharingan be removed? It's a special state of sharingan, not a whole new dojutsu altogether.--[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] ([[User talk:Black Artist|talk]]) 21:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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== all dojutsu can resist genjutsu ==
==Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai==
 
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where was it ever said that the three dojutsu can't be fooled by visual genjutsu? I need a reference {{unsigned|Yahyanime}}
 
:Where do you see such a statement?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:27, May 9, 2014 (UTC)
   
shouldn't this be moved to the possible dojutsu sectoin since this was an anime only dojutsu and i dont know how to do it so can someone else please do it? [[User:Narutosagemaster|Narutosagemaster]] ([[User talk:Narutosagemaster|talk]]) 23:23, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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== Gaara/Rasa, Dediara, Zetsu, and Ultimate Summoning Beast ==
==Religion==
 
   
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All of these characters have dojutsus, yet their abilities are not on here.
i have recently notice that the three main dojutsu all have a connection to religions. Rin'negan to Buddhism, Byakugan to Daoism, and sharingan to Shintoism.{{unsigned|96.253.126.160|20:25, 23 December 2009 (UTC)}}
 
:1) Sign your posts.
 
:2) I think the connection between the Byakugan and Daoism is rather vague and seems limited to a connection with Bāguàzhǎng and not necessarily Daoism itself. Would you mind clarifying? --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 21:29, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 
::hi, me again. in response to your comment ShounenSuki, besides the bagua, the Gentle Fist seems to be based off of T'ai Chi Ch'uan.--[[User:Kitaro1|Kitaro1]] ([[User talk:Kitaro1|talk]]) 01:35, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::As I mentioned above, the Hyūga fighting style is more likely based off Bāguàzhǎng than off Tàijíquán and although both have some connection with Daoism, neither of those connections is particularly strong. Definately not as strong as the connection between Buddhism and the Rinnegan or the connection between Shintō and the Sharingan. --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 13:24, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Even more related to Taoism is Neji's belief in fatalism is close to wúwéi, the Taoist philosophy of letting what happen what should happen.--[[User:Kitaro1|Kitaro1]] ([[User talk:Kitaro1|talk]]) 14:49, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::You mean that belief in fatalism that was kicked into the ground during the first true fight Neji had? --[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]])</sup> 14:59, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 
Noted, but I still think my theory deserves at least a small mention.--[[User:Kitaro1|Kitaro1]] ([[User talk:Kitaro1|talk]]) 01:47, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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Gaara and Rasa use sand to create a third eye which they connect to their optic nerve
== sharingan techniques ==
 
   
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Deidara's eye can resist Genjutsu and can see far away [even without his scope, as shown when he was an edo tensei summon]
Shouldn't we ad this to the list of known dojutsu?
 
Demonic Illusion: Burning Paper Body
 
Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change
 
Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes
 
[[User:Neji uchiha|Neji uchiha]] ([[User talk:Neji uchiha|talk]]) 05:57, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Zetsu can record things that he sees and play them later
== Sharingan ancestor ==
 
   
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Ultimate summoning beast can cast genjutsu through it's eyes
Why isn't this in the list?--[[Special:Contributions/98.211.195.17|98.211.195.17]] ([[User talk:98.211.195.17|talk]]) 23:00, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Because there isn't enough information on it to warrant its own article. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:06, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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A technique used by the eye, a dojutsu. What these characters do is called a dojutsu.[[User:Yahyanime|Yahyanime]] ([[User talk:Yahyanime|talk]]) 21:20, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
== Dojutsu add-on. ==
 
   
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:First off, Gaara and Rasa don't have a Dōjutsu. It takes more than a jutsu created from the octic nerve to be called a Dōjutsu. The Third Eye espcially has no special effects. Its like the shadow clone technique, making a duplicate eye.
I was reading through the articles, and I noticed a distinct lack of detail in the dojutsu field. I think you should explain exactly how the chakra in Dojutsu is used, obviously it doesn't stay in the body or they wouldn't actually be losing chakra.. Dojutsu would more than likely cause the eyes to emit the amount of chakra being put into the Dojutsu release.
 
   
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:Deidara just trained his eye as anyone could. It's not a bloodlimit type.
--[[User:NarutoGuru|NarutoGuru]] ([[User talk:NarutoGuru|talk]]) 15:00, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:Zetsu could just have a photographic memory.
We don't know it is used exactly, that's why it's not listed. All we know is that the chakra is used in the eyes. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:59, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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:Overall none of these guys have no real reason to be claimed a Dōjutsu user. Definition is an kekkei genkai used through the eye that grants the user special abilities specific for those eyes. --[[User:Rachin123|Rai 水]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 21:56, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
== Zetsu ==
 
   
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::No a dojutsu is any technique that uses the eye in particular. It doesn't need to eb akekkai genkai, as kidomaru has his third eye listed there and so is the mind-controlling eye. Dojutsu =/= Kekkai Genkai.
Shouldn't we add Zetsu's byakugan-like ability (chapter 255, page 10, also III databook) to the "Possible doujutsu" section? I know Kishi himself said that it maybe ninjutsu, but it is being used through the eyes, so it's...doujutsu? Also, Zetsu has ability to "record" events (chapter 396, page 7) and it is also used through his eyes.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 21:09, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I think that's worth a mention at least. Kishimoto might be hinting at [lesser] dōjutsu.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 21:13, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Should we wait for more opinions?[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 21:16, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
I'll give you my opinion, I think it's worth adding [[User Talk:ROBO731|ROBO731]] 21:22, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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::Deidara's eye has resistance to genjutsu through training, yes. but that's still an eey technique, just like it is with the sharingan. Same goes for his ability to see far distances, he may have trained for it, but it's still an eye technique aka a dojutsu
Done and open for improvement. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 21:35, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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::No, his eye was focused on in panels, giving it emphasis right before it showed some weird ability.
Sounds good ! [http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:ROBO731|<span style="color:#00FF00; font-size:90%; cursor:help;" title="My User Page">ROBO731&nbsp;</span>][[User Talk:ROBO731|<span style="color:#4B0082; cursor:help;" title="Message Me">(Talk)&nbsp;</span>]] 21:37, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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::Gaara's technique still uses and connects to the eye for the tchnique, hence it's an eye technique. What's so hard to understand about the concept of non-Kekkai Genkai eye abilities ??
:I do think we should('ve) waited for more opinions especially with something like this though.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 21:38, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
not to say his recording ability ... possibly eye technique, yeah --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 07:00, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
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::What about the Ultimate Summoning Beast?[[User:Yahyanime|Yahyanime]] ([[User talk:Yahyanime|talk]]) 23:35, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
   
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:::Dōjutsu are Kekkei Genkai. Just genetic for the eye. You are misinterpreting what Dōjutsu is a bit. Just because it involves the eye doesn't mean its automatically a Dōjutsu. It has to be a kekkei genkai. A blood limit or run through DNA. Anyone can train their eye like Deidara did. For the Third Eye though they use sand, its something anyone who infused chakra with sand could do. Kidōmaru is placed as possible kekkei genkai for a reason. It literally gives him better acuuracy and range. Its just not the color of the eye. Like Zetsu who you didn't include, making me assume that you agreed that he could just a photographic memory. As for the Ultimate Summoning Beast, he could possibly have a Dōjutsu. More likely him than the others you said but I highly doubt it. --[[User:Rachin123|Rai 水]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 01:03, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
== Gallery ==
 
   
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== Canon and Non-Canon ==
Do we really need the gallery? It makes the page look bad. I mean, we only have galleries when absolute necessary, like [[Arhat Fist]] to describe each move, but otherwise, this section is really too much. [[User:Yatanogarasu|Yatanogarasu]] ([[User_talk:Yatanogarasu|Talk]]) 07:37, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I think it would be better to add every dōjutsu picture to its respective description.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 08:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
::That was tried before and didn't work out. I really don't see an issue with the gallery personally.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 11:22, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::But what is the issue with Zetsu's possible dōjutsu image? The image I've posted is the only one, both in manga and in databook.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 11:23, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::That looks more like a simple zoom-in feature to indicate that Zetsu is focusing or something, not an actual dojutsu. [[User:Yatanogarasu|Yatanogarasu]] ([[User_talk:Yatanogarasu|Talk]]) 08:12, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::What does it change, exactly? Zetsu is still using SOMETHING, and it may be doujutsu. Or may be not. That's why it is in POSSIBLE doujutsu section.[[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI|talk]]) 10:17, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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Why are we treating the anime only dojutsu as non-canon? It is clearly canon to the anime. I think we should instead change it to say "Anime Only Dojutsu". [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 04:07, March 28, 2015 (UTC)
== Three Great Dōjutsu ==
 
 
Where were they explicitly mentioned by name? As far as I know, the manga only mentions rinegan. --[[User:Aged Goblin|<font size="4"><span style='color: Goblin'><font face="Old English Text MT">'''''The Goblin'''''</font></span></font>]] 12:11, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Rinnegan's entry in the third databook. Read ShounenSuki's translation. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:32, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Mind control Doujutsu? ==
 
 
Can somebody tell me the source of the possible dojutsu where Rock Lee is mind controlled? I don't recall such an event and I'm kinda wondering where it came from... --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 01:26, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
Fillers most likely, I don't recall the details though--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 01:41, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Shippūden episode 237. I'm adding a reference. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:42, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
This has no name? I remember vaguely referring Neji. --[[User:Sasameandhaley|Sasameandhaley]] ([[User talk:Sasameandhaley|talk]]) 00:34, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
No name. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:39, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Rinnegan picture. ==
 
 
Just a thought. Shouldn't we have Nagato as the picture for it? Being that he was the "first" person with it? [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 05:01, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I'm wondering when the images changed at all...--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:32, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
As am I. I've only just noticed the new layout myself. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 23:21, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Update ==
 
 
This page is bad. Like wtf? This needs to be fixed. Also, why is the [[Mind-controlling Dōjutsu]]? If that is a dojutsu then [[Third Eye]] would also be one. This page also contains a mass amount of speculation. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 23:04, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Read the definition of dōjutsu then look at how the page is set up. The Mind-Controlling Dōjutsu uses the person's eyes to exert control over someone. All the Third Eye does is substitute one of your eyes for a mobile one.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:18, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
So is the [[Mind-controlling Dōjutsu]] a Kekkei Genkai then? And what about the large list of speculation? [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 02:57, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
:It's called possible dōjutsu. So that people know that outside of the Three Great Dōjutsu, there are other ''lesser'' ones that people have.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:30, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Hand seals ==
 
 
Why do you not delete the statement that says Dojutsus do not require the use of hand seals? When Nagato uses Rinne Tensei, he performs two hand seals. --[[User:Axel Carrozzo|Axel Carrozzo]] ([[User talk:Axel Carrozzo|talk]]) 03:10, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
:The statement should probably be changed to typically not requiring hand seals if anything. Izanagi also uses them to activate and deactivate, or at least Danzo's imperfect version did.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 05:11, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
::It does not need to be changed. The article is talking abiout the use of the eyes itself not eye technique. The eyes require no seal to be activated. The only time users have used seals was more than likely to accumulate chakra.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 05:55, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Dōjutsu is not a kekkei genkai==
 
kekkei genkai '''does not''' mean genetic ninja ability. see shippuden episode #268, where Shikamaru explains what it is. In fact, it has a very narrow meaning.--[[მომხმარებელი:DevaMK|DevaMK]] <small>([[მომხმარებლის განხილვა:DevaMK|განხილვა]] • [[სპეციალური:წვლილი/DevaMK|წვლილი]])</small> 16:40, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
 

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all dojutsu can resist genjutsu

where was it ever said that the three dojutsu can't be fooled by visual genjutsu? I need a reference —This unsigned comment was made by Yahyanime (talkcontribs) .

Where do you see such a statement?--Elveonora (talk) 19:27, May 9, 2014 (UTC)


Gaara/Rasa, Dediara, Zetsu, and Ultimate Summoning Beast

All of these characters have dojutsus, yet their abilities are not on here.

Gaara and Rasa use sand to create a third eye which they connect to their optic nerve

Deidara's eye can resist Genjutsu and can see far away [even without his scope, as shown when he was an edo tensei summon]

Zetsu can record things that he sees and play them later

Ultimate summoning beast can cast genjutsu through it's eyes

A technique used by the eye, a dojutsu. What these characters do is called a dojutsu.Yahyanime (talk) 21:20, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

First off, Gaara and Rasa don't have a Dōjutsu. It takes more than a jutsu created from the octic nerve to be called a Dōjutsu. The Third Eye espcially has no special effects. Its like the shadow clone technique, making a duplicate eye.
Deidara just trained his eye as anyone could. It's not a bloodlimit type.
Zetsu could just have a photographic memory.
Overall none of these guys have no real reason to be claimed a Dōjutsu user. Definition is an kekkei genkai used through the eye that grants the user special abilities specific for those eyes. --Rai 水 (talk) 21:56, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
No a dojutsu is any technique that uses the eye in particular. It doesn't need to eb akekkai genkai, as kidomaru has his third eye listed there and so is the mind-controlling eye. Dojutsu =/= Kekkai Genkai.
Deidara's eye has resistance to genjutsu through training, yes. but that's still an eey technique, just like it is with the sharingan. Same goes for his ability to see far distances, he may have trained for it, but it's still an eye technique aka a dojutsu
No, his eye was focused on in panels, giving it emphasis right before it showed some weird ability.
Gaara's technique still uses and connects to the eye for the tchnique, hence it's an eye technique. What's so hard to understand about the concept of non-Kekkai Genkai eye abilities ??
What about the Ultimate Summoning Beast?Yahyanime (talk) 23:35, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
Dōjutsu are Kekkei Genkai. Just genetic for the eye. You are misinterpreting what Dōjutsu is a bit. Just because it involves the eye doesn't mean its automatically a Dōjutsu. It has to be a kekkei genkai. A blood limit or run through DNA. Anyone can train their eye like Deidara did. For the Third Eye though they use sand, its something anyone who infused chakra with sand could do. Kidōmaru is placed as possible kekkei genkai for a reason. It literally gives him better acuuracy and range. Its just not the color of the eye. Like Zetsu who you didn't include, making me assume that you agreed that he could just a photographic memory. As for the Ultimate Summoning Beast, he could possibly have a Dōjutsu. More likely him than the others you said but I highly doubt it. --Rai 水 (talk) 01:03, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Canon and Non-Canon

Why are we treating the anime only dojutsu as non-canon? It is clearly canon to the anime. I think we should instead change it to say "Anime Only Dojutsu". Diamonddeath (talk) 04:07, March 28, 2015 (UTC)