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== Boruto ==
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In the newest boruto trailer, Boruto was seen using a lighting technique but why is everyone assuming its chidori? Him being listed as a user seems more like a guess than a confirmation. --[[User:Bio havik|Bio havik]] ([[User talk:Bio havik|talk]]) 02:09, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:What else could it be?--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 02:11, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::One of the many lighting techniques that emits lightning. We didn't eve see Boruto's hand afterall. --[[User:Bio havik|Bio havik]] ([[User talk:Bio havik|talk]]) 02:17, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:::His technique looks and sounds like Chidori. [[User:Narsha|Narsha]] ([[User talk:Narsha|talk]]) 02:26, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::::Im going off memory but doesn't chidori sound identical to some of the Raikage's techniques? I have my money on that's he using a Lightning Release Rasengan XD --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 02:43, June 20, 2015 (UTC):
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Japanese fans that saw the movie even say its not Chidori. --[[User:Bio havik|Bio havik]] ([[User talk:Bio havik|talk]]) 20:01, July 26, 2015 (UTC)
   
It's something that has bothered me for a bit and I kinda just want to have it answered here so it can be referenced: where was it ever said that the Chidori was a result of the failed attempt to make "''Lightning Release: Rasengan?''"--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:12, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
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== Not showing up in Boruto's article ==
:Around the time Naruto was learning nature transformation. Don't recall the exact chapter. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:29, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
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So anyone know how to fix that again? Because it is marked as (Movie Only), the technique doesn't show up in Boruto's infobox. I could remove the movie only tag, but that's the only way I think to make it work.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:22, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
::Lawx I re-read the entire training period and even checked when Kakashi actually first used the Rasengan, can't find a mention of it any where. The closest I came was Kakashi saying in the Gaiden that his technique was like Minato's moniker.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:58, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
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:This is where I was going with [[Thread:175239|this]] thread. Since it's canon, this technique should show up in the infobox, but removing the movie only tag would technically be inaccurate. It's not just this case either, some techniques for Sasuke, Toneri & Hinata fall under this as well.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 16:27, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::Why are we adding pre-release stuff anyway, thought we don't do that.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 16:34, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:::I also thought that as well Elve. Didn't realise the position has changed and we just add information whenever it becomes available. o.O --[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sajuuk]] {{Mod}} <sup>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|t]][[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|c]][[Special:Editcount/SuperSajuuk|e]]</sup> 16:35, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::::There was a time we would add pre-release stuff so long as it was official. Now I'm not going to be one to look gift information in the mouth, but I'd rather get this kind of thing done with now than later.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:37, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
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In that case Sasuke should be added as Shadow Clone user.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 16:39, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
   
it's chpt 321--{{unsigned|64.31.17.46}}
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:Great. Have at it. But what about Boruto and according to Minamoto15 the other movie based techniques.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:42, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
:Care to cite a page as well. Because in that chapter Kakashi says nothing that sounds like "''i failed to add lightning release to the Rasengan but made Chidori in the process''".--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 08:25, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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::Same thing is with [[Chakra Transfer Technique]] and Hinata, way back from The Last. Maybe there is a way to tag some pages so that they would appear in the infoboxes regardless of their appearance in the media?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 17:03, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
:he doesn't say that because that's not what happened. chidori is an alternative to lightning rasengan and not a byproduct. pg 7, 'if that were the case i wouldn't have needed to develop chidori.' pg 9, 'i wasn't able to combine my elementally recomposed lightning chakra with the spatially recomposed chakra of the rasengan.'{{unsigned|64.31.17.46}}
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:::I've edited some templates. Assuming I haven't forgotten to do something, it may start showing up within the next 24 hours. (This only applies to Boruto and Chidori at the moment.) '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 17:24, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
::Page 7: Kakashi explained spatial re-composition using the Chidori as an example. Page 9/10 he does say that he would have never had needed to create Chidori, however, he does not say that the Chidori is a failed Lightning Release: Rasengan. If you notice he said he wouldn't have had to create the Chidori and if you look at the two techniques, at least for me, there is no similarities in design except for spatial re-composition. It does sound like he might have used the "Lightning Release: Rasengan" as a '''basis''' for the Chidori but not "hey the ''Lightning Release: Rasengan'' failed but I'll call this Chidori.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:30, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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::::Awesome. Thank you, hope you did it correctly! :) Now, we play the waiting game.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 17:28, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Sweet. Just so you're all aware, as Omojuze pointed out, [[Chakra Transfer Technique]] really should show up for Hinata, Hamura, and Toneri, [[Truth-Seeking Ball]] & [[Puppet Technique]] for Toneri as well, [[Shadow Clone Technique]] & [[Multiple Shadow Clone Technique]] for Sasuke. I'll bring more to light if I see any, but these are the only ones I'm aware of at the moment.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 17:41, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::@Snapper2 - Didn't work. :(--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 09:40, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::Honestly at this point, I'm of mind to just allow the (Movie Only) label to function just like the anime one. I see little reason as to why it doesn't.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:04, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::::::::Because stuff like [[Ice Release: One Horned White Whale|this]] would pop up in [[Kakashi Hatake|character]] articles >.>--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 13:13, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
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And with the tagged line (Movie Only) I fail to see how that is a problem.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:15, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
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:Might have something to do infobox overloading maybe, or that they aren't canon. That said, I agree it doesn't matter. You're already noting it's a tech only used in the movie by said character. It's not like you're defeating a purpose by treating it like you would the anime, and it's also not like we're including it in the main articles, with the exception of this movie and "The Last"--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 14:02, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
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::I suspect that it was originally decided only to list canon techniques. I think it would be better if ALL anime, manga and movie techniques appeared in infoboxes, not just "canon" techniques.
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::If this is not possible, then the "Jutsu" heading for the collapsible box should be converted to a "BrowseData" link. --'''''[[User:SuperSajuuk|Sa]][[User talk:SuperSajuuk|ju]][[Special:Editcount/SuperSajuuk|uk]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk|{{Mod}}]] 20:33, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
   
::: Apparantly, [[chidori]] is not a failed ''Lightning Release: Rasengan''. It was just that he couldn't do it; So he created chidori.
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{{quote|[[Kakashi]]|When Kakashi learned how to use the Rasengan, he attempted to infuse it with lightning-chakra as it was originally intended to be combined with element chakra, but ultimately failed. However, he used the same theoretical principle to create the Chidori.}}
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So anyway, my attempt at a workaround seems to have failed. Where do people stand on listing movie only techniques in infoboxes? '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:40, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
:::That sums it up ;)'''~ [[User:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:blue;">Ultimate</span>]][[User talk:UltimateSupreme|<span style="color:#EE2C2C;">Supreme</span>]]''' 13:42, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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:Not quite. Chakra Threads and Puppet Technique are showing up for Shinki. Dunno why it worked there but not here. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:47, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
:::: Exactly, he took elements from it and engineered the Chidori, in a similar manner to Minato who thought he was b/a enough to use the Tailed Beast Ball.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:48, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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::That's pleasantly surprising and frustratingly confusing. Is the movie canon tag being used anywhere else? Whether successfully or not doesn't matter. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:02, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:::@Omni - because Shinki is a movie-only character, that is the reason it appears.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:10, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
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::::That's not strictly true. Characters that debut in ''The Last'' or ''Bortuo'' automatically receive anime and manga tags, so they should still encounter movie tag gaps. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 19:31, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::I think Soft Physique Modification has it for Mitsuki, Strong Fist and another Leaf something taijutsu for Metal Lee. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:39, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
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:Why aren't movie techniques allowed to show up on the pages anyway? Now Toneri's techs aren't showing up on his infobox.--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 19:59, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
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::Bump--[[User:Kuroiraikou|Kuroiraikou]] ([[User talk:Kuroiraikou|talk]]) 00:00, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

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In the newest boruto trailer, Boruto was seen using a lighting technique but why is everyone assuming its chidori? Him being listed as a user seems more like a guess than a confirmation. --Bio havik (talk) 02:09, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

What else could it be?--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 02:11, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
One of the many lighting techniques that emits lightning. We didn't eve see Boruto's hand afterall. --Bio havik (talk) 02:17, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
His technique looks and sounds like Chidori. Narsha (talk) 02:26, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
Im going off memory but doesn't chidori sound identical to some of the Raikage's techniques? I have my money on that's he using a Lightning Release Rasengan XD --Sarutobii2 (talk) 02:43, June 20, 2015 (UTC):

Japanese fans that saw the movie even say its not Chidori. --Bio havik (talk) 20:01, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Not showing up in Boruto's article Edit

So anyone know how to fix that again? Because it is marked as (Movie Only), the technique doesn't show up in Boruto's infobox. I could remove the movie only tag, but that's the only way I think to make it work.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 16:22, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

This is where I was going with this thread. Since it's canon, this technique should show up in the infobox, but removing the movie only tag would technically be inaccurate. It's not just this case either, some techniques for Sasuke, Toneri & Hinata fall under this as well.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 16:27, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
Why are we adding pre-release stuff anyway, thought we don't do that.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 16:34, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
I also thought that as well Elve. Didn't realise the position has changed and we just add information whenever it becomes available. o.O --Sajuuk [Mod] tce 16:35, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
There was a time we would add pre-release stuff so long as it was official. Now I'm not going to be one to look gift information in the mouth, but I'd rather get this kind of thing done with now than later.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 16:37, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

In that case Sasuke should be added as Shadow Clone user.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 16:39, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Great. Have at it. But what about Boruto and according to Minamoto15 the other movie based techniques.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 16:42, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
Same thing is with Chakra Transfer Technique and Hinata, way back from The Last. Maybe there is a way to tag some pages so that they would appear in the infoboxes regardless of their appearance in the media?--Omojuze (talk) 17:03, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
I've edited some templates. Assuming I haven't forgotten to do something, it may start showing up within the next 24 hours. (This only applies to Boruto and Chidori at the moment.) ~SnapperTo 17:24, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
Awesome. Thank you, hope you did it correctly! :) Now, we play the waiting game.--Omojuze (talk) 17:28, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
Sweet. Just so you're all aware, as Omojuze pointed out, Chakra Transfer Technique really should show up for Hinata, Hamura, and Toneri, Truth-Seeking Ball & Puppet Technique for Toneri as well, Shadow Clone Technique & Multiple Shadow Clone Technique for Sasuke. I'll bring more to light if I see any, but these are the only ones I'm aware of at the moment.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 17:41, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
@Snapper2 - Didn't work. :(--Omojuze (talk) 09:40, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
Honestly at this point, I'm of mind to just allow the (Movie Only) label to function just like the anime one. I see little reason as to why it doesn't.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:04, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
Because stuff like this would pop up in character articles >.>--Omojuze (talk) 13:13, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

And with the tagged line (Movie Only) I fail to see how that is a problem.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 13:15, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Might have something to do infobox overloading maybe, or that they aren't canon. That said, I agree it doesn't matter. You're already noting it's a tech only used in the movie by said character. It's not like you're defeating a purpose by treating it like you would the anime, and it's also not like we're including it in the main articles, with the exception of this movie and "The Last"--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 14:02, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
I suspect that it was originally decided only to list canon techniques. I think it would be better if ALL anime, manga and movie techniques appeared in infoboxes, not just "canon" techniques.
If this is not possible, then the "Jutsu" heading for the collapsible box should be converted to a "BrowseData" link. --Sajuuk [Mod] 20:33, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

updateEdit

So anyway, my attempt at a workaround seems to have failed. Where do people stand on listing movie only techniques in infoboxes? ~SnapperTo 18:40, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Not quite. Chakra Threads and Puppet Technique are showing up for Shinki. Dunno why it worked there but not here. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:47, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
That's pleasantly surprising and frustratingly confusing. Is the movie canon tag being used anywhere else? Whether successfully or not doesn't matter. ~SnapperTo 19:02, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
@Omni - because Shinki is a movie-only character, that is the reason it appears.--Omojuze (talk) 19:10, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
That's not strictly true. Characters that debut in The Last or Bortuo automatically receive anime and manga tags, so they should still encounter movie tag gaps. ~SnapperTo 19:31, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
I think Soft Physique Modification has it for Mitsuki, Strong Fist and another Leaf something taijutsu for Metal Lee. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:39, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
Why aren't movie techniques allowed to show up on the pages anyway? Now Toneri's techs aren't showing up on his infobox.--Kuroiraikou (talk) 19:59, August 7, 2015 (UTC)
Bump--Kuroiraikou (talk) 00:00, August 8, 2015 (UTC)
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