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[[File:Madara Uchiha.png|thumb|left]] <- those chains look like [[Kushina]]'s technique don't you think? --[[User:UchihaGlenn|UchihaGlenn]] ([[User talk:UchihaGlenn|talk]]) 21:57, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
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[[:File:Madara Uchiha.png|These chains]] look like [[Kushina]]'s technique don't you think? --[[User:UchihaGlenn|UchihaGlenn]] ([[User talk:UchihaGlenn|talk]]) 21:57, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
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* Kushina's chains have spikes in them. Those are normal chains in that picture. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 22:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
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:Kushina's chains have spikes on them. Those are normal chains in that picture. --[[User:SuperSaiyaMan|SuperSaiyaMan]] ([[User talk:SuperSaiyaMan|talk]]) 22:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
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== Image ==
 
== Image ==
 
[[:File:Chakra Chains.png|Dont you think that this image is better?]], cause as it was said, Kushina's chains have spikes and the page's image dont have... ----->
[[File:Chakra Chains.png|thumb|right]]
 
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Dont you think that this image is better ?, cause as it was said, Kushina's chains have spikes and the page's image dont have... ----->
 
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== Barrier ==
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Same technique as the chain, or a new technique derived from it? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 03:06, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
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:I'm assuming the barrier was erected by one of them after she restrained the Kyubi. I doubt the chains have that effect--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 13:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
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::Not sure. Minato brought Kushina and said to her "gotta put up a barrier", and then the chains appeared. The barrier also looks to run along the chains, which the crossing chains being the boundaries of the barrier. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:14, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
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:::you have a point. It'd make more sense then that Kushina erected it or the chains were just used as the parameters for the seal--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 16:47, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
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So i'm going to resurrect this because i just saw the part again where this all happened
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I actually think Kushina was the one to erect the barrier [http://www.narutoverse.org/Naruto/503/13/] Look carefully at the bottom right side of the page --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 16:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:What I've been saying since the beginning. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 22:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
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== Shape Manipulation ==
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Question: Isn't the chakra chain a form of form shape manipulation? shouldn't that be added in the article as well? It even surprases the rasengan... [[User:Peruzka|Peruzka]] ([[User talk:Peruzka|talk]]) 21:16, September 9, 2010 (UTC) Peruzka
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== Naruto ==
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I was confused when Naruto fought the Kyuubi in his subconscious, isn't the strings that bind the Kyuubi because of the seal or that's Kushins's jutsu? --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilna]][[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|ruto]][[Special:Contributions/Ilnarutoanime|ani]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|me]] 14:27, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
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:That was Kushina using the chains.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:33, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
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::Okay thanks. I misunderstood the manga ^=^ --[[User:Ilnarutoanime|Ilna]][[User talk:Ilnarutoanime|ruto]][[Special:Contributions/Ilnarutoanime|ani]][[User:Ilnarutoanime/Links|me]] 14:36, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
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== Seal ==
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shouldn't another page be brought up from this one as a related technique, sealing technique specificaly. something like a chakra chain(s) seal, cause nine tails inside kushina had these chakra chains as the seal, 4 tails when shown had chakra chains and spikes restraining it. and kushina's uzumaki clan was known for their sealing techniques. maybe the page should be made, any thoughts?[[Special:Contributions/98.26.243.10|98.26.243.10]] ([[User talk:98.26.243.10|talk]]) 08:30, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
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:You're assuming that what Tobi is using is the same thing as Kushina's? I think we need more information on what's going on before we can do that. Though I'm not entirely sure how/why the Uzumaki would come into the chain bit.---[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 14:17, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
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== Rinnegan ==
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I think that this technique is related to the rinnegan since it was used by Tobi. He stated that Nagato also used it but to a much lower level in power. I'm just speculating (and please noone delete this) that Kushina may have had the rinnegan. She is an uzumaki and its proven that nagato was a distant descendant of the clan plus the uzumaki are close relatives to the senju who, as we all know, are directly descended from the sage of six paths. This is a very small possibility but it could also be a variation of the creation of all things technique since it seems to manifest the chains not concentrate chakra into regular metal ones.
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--[[User:Otokage|Otokage]] ([[User talk:Otokage|talk]]) 17:49, January 12, 2012 (UTC)Otokage
 
:[[Chakra Chains (Outer Path)]].
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:As far as we know, Kushina does not possess the Rinnegan, she has normal eyes. They're not like the Sharingan where the person's eyes look normal when deactivated. The rest of your statement is a shot in the dark.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]]17:57, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
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Of course it's shot in the dark if it's just a speculation but i was merely submitting a thought about a relatively simple looking technique. I know it's rather useless if Kushina actually did have the rinnegan but I was just stating all the possibilities. I think the talk pages are a bit limited by the fact that no many people submit their own thoughts (as long as they have a base of sorts to balance them on) Anyway I guess we'll just have to wait and see if anything else is revealed about her.
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[[Special:Contributions/86.161.219.180|86.161.219.180]] ([[User talk:86.161.219.180|talk]]) 18:53, January 13, 2012 (UTC)Otokage
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:Talk pages are to be used to discuss how to improve the article, not to discuss its subject. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:00, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
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== Fuinjutsu ==
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This should be classed as Fuinjutsu. The chains are able to be added to a seal, as seen in Kushina's seal how it used the chains to hold down Kurama. She was able to apply chakra chains to the seal and increase its power. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 15:14, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
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== Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 ==
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Why is it listed as its jutsu debut in the upcoming game?--[[User:Axel Carrozzo|Axel Carrozzo]] ([[User talk:Axel Carrozzo|talk]]) 08:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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:Take a wild guess. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 10:11, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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That listed jutsu must be removed from the Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 page. The same happens with Water Gun Technique and Chakra Chains. That's my point of view. See you, man!. --[[User:Axel Carrozzo|Axel Carrozzo]] ([[User talk:Axel Carrozzo|talk]]) 22:46, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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:Where has common sense gone? [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:50, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
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== fuuinjutsu ==
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Why ain't this one again? I know that generally fuuinjutsu = a formula/diagram used to seal and unseal stuff into/from stuff. But Killer B made it clear that even immobilizing techniques fall into that category, like his ink technique, so why not this?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:13, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
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@sysops, Cerez, Seel, the hot guy, anyone: bump. I'm almost positive this is a kekkei genkai now, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be a fuuinjutsu.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:11, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:If we list this as a fūinjutsu, does that not mean that every technique that can restrain someone would by default be a fūinjutsu such as Ino's [[Chakra Hair Trap Technique]]? --[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:30, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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::It's Fūinjutsu because it seals the beasts inside the statue with that anchor-like chain, doesn't it? Not because of how the chains can restrain beasts. [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 14:33, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:::I'm the one who ask :P if this [[Sealing Technique: Octopus Hold]] is any indication, then /shrugs--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:35, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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::::We don't know how that technique ends, though... [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]]<sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 15:27, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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:::::That's a good point. But your support the chains to be a fuuinjutsu, right?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 22:24, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
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Kushina's seal was (in part at least) composed of Chakra Chains, which were shown to restrain Kurama within her subconsciousness, thus completing the seal. Also, Binding does not = Sealing. When an individual is sealed there are accompanied properties, such as an inability to be summoned afterwards and the loss of consciousness (while sealed). The Sunagakure Cloth Sealing method, by itself, was not sealing. Only when a sealing tag was applied was it actually - Otherwise it was just a form of cloth restriction. Just like how Gaara's Sand binding wasn't sealing unless it used outside Fuinjutsu/Juinjutsu. But back on topic... Kushina used the Chakra Chains as part of her seal which contained Kurama so it CAN be used as a Fuinjutsu. [[User:Skarrj|Skarrj]] ([[User talk:Skarrj|talk]]) 07:58, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
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:So you think B would have used then some sealing tag on the ink?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:45, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

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huh ?

These chains look like Kushina's technique don't you think? --UchihaGlenn (talk) 21:57, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Kushina's chains have spikes on them. Those are normal chains in that picture. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Image

Dont you think that this image is better?, cause as it was said, Kushina's chains have spikes and the page's image dont have... ----->

Barrier

Same technique as the chain, or a new technique derived from it? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:06, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming the barrier was erected by one of them after she restrained the Kyubi. I doubt the chains have that effect--Cerez365 (talk) 13:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
Not sure. Minato brought Kushina and said to her "gotta put up a barrier", and then the chains appeared. The barrier also looks to run along the chains, which the crossing chains being the boundaries of the barrier. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:14, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
you have a point. It'd make more sense then that Kushina erected it or the chains were just used as the parameters for the seal--Cerez365 (talk) 16:47, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

So i'm going to resurrect this because i just saw the part again where this all happened I actually think Kushina was the one to erect the barrier [1] Look carefully at the bottom right side of the page --Cerez365 (talk) 16:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

What I've been saying since the beginning. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Shape Manipulation

Question: Isn't the chakra chain a form of form shape manipulation? shouldn't that be added in the article as well? It even surprases the rasengan... Peruzka (talk) 21:16, September 9, 2010 (UTC) Peruzka

Naruto

I was confused when Naruto fought the Kyuubi in his subconscious, isn't the strings that bind the Kyuubi because of the seal or that's Kushins's jutsu? --Ilnarutoanime 14:27, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

That was Kushina using the chains.--Cerez365 Hyūga Symbol 14:33, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Okay thanks. I misunderstood the manga ^=^ --Ilnarutoanime 14:36, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


Seal

shouldn't another page be brought up from this one as a related technique, sealing technique specificaly. something like a chakra chain(s) seal, cause nine tails inside kushina had these chakra chains as the seal, 4 tails when shown had chakra chains and spikes restraining it. and kushina's uzumaki clan was known for their sealing techniques. maybe the page should be made, any thoughts?98.26.243.10 (talk) 08:30, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're assuming that what Tobi is using is the same thing as Kushina's? I think we need more information on what's going on before we can do that. Though I'm not entirely sure how/why the Uzumaki would come into the chain bit.---Cerez365Hyūga Symbol 14:17, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rinnegan

I think that this technique is related to the rinnegan since it was used by Tobi. He stated that Nagato also used it but to a much lower level in power. I'm just speculating (and please noone delete this) that Kushina may have had the rinnegan. She is an uzumaki and its proven that nagato was a distant descendant of the clan plus the uzumaki are close relatives to the senju who, as we all know, are directly descended from the sage of six paths. This is a very small possibility but it could also be a variation of the creation of all things technique since it seems to manifest the chains not concentrate chakra into regular metal ones. --Otokage (talk) 17:49, January 12, 2012 (UTC)Otokage

Chakra Chains (Outer Path).
As far as we know, Kushina does not possess the Rinnegan, she has normal eyes. They're not like the Sharingan where the person's eyes look normal when deactivated. The rest of your statement is a shot in the dark.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol17:57, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Of course it's shot in the dark if it's just a speculation but i was merely submitting a thought about a relatively simple looking technique. I know it's rather useless if Kushina actually did have the rinnegan but I was just stating all the possibilities. I think the talk pages are a bit limited by the fact that no many people submit their own thoughts (as long as they have a base of sorts to balance them on) Anyway I guess we'll just have to wait and see if anything else is revealed about her. 86.161.219.180 (talk) 18:53, January 13, 2012 (UTC)Otokage

Talk pages are to be used to discuss how to improve the article, not to discuss its subject. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:00, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Fuinjutsu

This should be classed as Fuinjutsu. The chains are able to be added to a seal, as seen in Kushina's seal how it used the chains to hold down Kurama. She was able to apply chakra chains to the seal and increase its power. Skarrj (talk) 15:14, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Ninja Storm 3

Why is it listed as its jutsu debut in the upcoming game?--Axel Carrozzo (talk) 08:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Take a wild guess. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:11, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

That listed jutsu must be removed from the Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 page. The same happens with Water Gun Technique and Chakra Chains. That's my point of view. See you, man!. --Axel Carrozzo (talk) 22:46, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Where has common sense gone? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:50, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

fuuinjutsu

Why ain't this one again? I know that generally fuuinjutsu = a formula/diagram used to seal and unseal stuff into/from stuff. But Killer B made it clear that even immobilizing techniques fall into that category, like his ink technique, so why not this?--Elveonora (talk) 13:13, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

@sysops, Cerez, Seel, the hot guy, anyone: bump. I'm almost positive this is a kekkei genkai now, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be a fuuinjutsu.--Elveonora (talk) 14:11, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

If we list this as a fūinjutsu, does that not mean that every technique that can restrain someone would by default be a fūinjutsu such as Ino's Chakra Hair Trap Technique? --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:30, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
It's Fūinjutsu because it seals the beasts inside the statue with that anchor-like chain, doesn't it? Not because of how the chains can restrain beasts. Seelentau 愛 14:33, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
I'm the one who ask :P if this Sealing Technique: Octopus Hold is any indication, then /shrugs--Elveonora (talk) 14:35, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
We don't know how that technique ends, though... Seelentau 愛 15:27, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
That's a good point. But your support the chains to be a fuuinjutsu, right?--Elveonora (talk) 22:24, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Kushina's seal was (in part at least) composed of Chakra Chains, which were shown to restrain Kurama within her subconsciousness, thus completing the seal. Also, Binding does not = Sealing. When an individual is sealed there are accompanied properties, such as an inability to be summoned afterwards and the loss of consciousness (while sealed). The Sunagakure Cloth Sealing method, by itself, was not sealing. Only when a sealing tag was applied was it actually - Otherwise it was just a form of cloth restriction. Just like how Gaara's Sand binding wasn't sealing unless it used outside Fuinjutsu/Juinjutsu. But back on topic... Kushina used the Chakra Chains as part of her seal which contained Kurama so it CAN be used as a Fuinjutsu. Skarrj (talk) 07:58, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

So you think B would have used then some sealing tag on the ink?--Elveonora (talk) 11:45, March 6, 2014 (UTC)