Talk:Black Lightning

Fighting Style

Considering that the technique Darui used is unlikely to be the only technique involving black lightning, I think this article should be turned into something like Gentle Fist, a page on the style, also listing the derived techniques. I'll add the jutsu infobox. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:16, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that could work. --NaruHina fan (talk) 00:17, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I must admit your signature confused me there a little bit friend. Anyway, I also agree with Omni. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 00:21, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree I think with the page style Omni... but a fighting style? I don't think it should be listed as that. . .--Cerez (talk) 00:23, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Destruction Bug Host Technique is listed as a fighting style. Gentle Fist as mentioned before is a fighting style as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:28, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well Gentle Fist decor. But if Destruction Bug Host is listed as such, I suppose it's fine then--Cerez (talk) 00:29, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think it shouldn't be listed as a fighting style...it's only ninjutsu. It's nto taijutsu or a type of strategy. It doesn't coincide with the definition or connotation of a fighting style so why is it listed as one? Also someone should really find a Japanese RAW image for it. I've tried, but had no luck. -Banan14kab

Black lightning doesn't seem to be a single powerful technique, from which just a few are derived. From what I understood from the chapter, it's like a discipline within Lightning Release. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:32, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Possible Name

One possible name would Kuro Kaminari (黒雷) Hisagi. (talk)

Possible isn't confirmed, wait until a raw is available. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

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the evidence shows that the black lightning is not umnamed. Black Lightning is Kuro Kaminari in Japanese, respectively.

One probable raw.Hisagi. (talk)

Omnibender, esse Hisagi é meu amigo fala em português também, fala com ele em português para ele entender melhor por favor! LosErmanos - Talk - Contributions

I think that until you leave the RAW version use "黒雷" Kuro Kaminari --Leodix ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 02:20, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hisagi, não estou dizendo que a técnica não tem nome, só que a gente não vai e coloca um nome só por que ele parece correto. O que eu já vi de site sobre Naruto em português dando nome japonês pra técnica que jamais recebeu nome dói. Nesse caso, a gente deve usar o termo que foi usado no raw, assim que estiver disponível. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:32, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

So...you know...whatever language that is?--TheUltimate3 ~Aspect of Wiki ~ 11:45, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Brazilian Portuguese, yes. English is a much easier language to learn. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Amaterasu similarity

Wouldn't mentioning that we are at least aware of the similarity somewhere on the page keep the random users from editing stuff about it on the page and the talk page? Because there's always some guy that thinks we haven't thought of it and thinks he has a genius idea... and goes on and edits it into the page. --GoDai (talk) 00:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

But friend, Amaterasu burns and this electrocutes. The only thing they have in common is color. I don't think we'll have that problem either way --Cerez (talk) 00:56, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I mean obviously fire burns and lightning electrocutes. I meant something like... counterparts. But anyway yeah I guess it isn't necessary then. --GoDai (talk) 01:58, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Image

I added the image File:Black Lightning.png. Do you agree with it, until you leave the RAW version? --Leodix ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 06:15, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

The only thing missing on that file is a fair use rationale. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 10:32, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sasuke?

Didn't Sasuke use Black Lightning at the Final Valley? He used a "Black Chidori", right?--Wild Wind of the Leaf

Not sure that counts. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

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It's drawn using the exact same design as illustrated in the pic I just added. Also before someone says this, Habataku Chidori is not Purple. Sasuke's regular Chidori is purple in the manga while Habataku Chidori is black and drawn the same exact way as Darui's Black Lightning. Kishi obviously is implying Sasuke has it too, to make them so similiar, but since no one knows of Sasuke using it from the Characters present, they can't really comment on it.--TekkenStorm (talk) 16:17, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Flapping Chidori is purple. You can see a colored version of Sasuke's regular Chidori in the cover for volume 52, the one with Orochimaru-looking Kabuto and Naruto with the yellow Rasengan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:20, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

By regular Chidori, I meant while in his Cursed Seal state. Chidori is purple when he uses it in the Cursed Seal State. Flapping Chidori was never shown colored in the manga so far, the only instance of a colored Curse Seal Sasuke using Chidori was in a cover page, purple, however it was not Flapping Chidori but a regular one. Flapping Chidori and Darui's Black Panther are using the same exact art style.--TekkenStorm (talk) 16:27, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

I tried reading this and for some reason I got confused a bit. If you're advocating for Sasuke to be listed a s aused of black thunder that will never happen. It's pretty much cut and dry that only Darui and Sandaime Raikage possessed this technique. Remember that not all things coloured dark in a manga is black or light is white.--Cerez (talk) 16:35, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

The final clash between Sasuke's 'Flapping' Chidori and Naruto's Rasengan was actually coloured in the Second Databook. The Chidori is distinctively purple there. Regardless, even if it was black, we cannot just assume this instance of black lightning is the same as the black lightning used by the Third Raikage and Darui. Sasuke's Chidori was obviously under influence of the Cursed Seal, which neither the Raikage nor Darui have shown. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 16:37, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shoulder's kanji

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Black Lightning's Shoulder Kanji

I'm no expert in Japanese, but I think the kanji tattooed on the shoulders of Darui and Third Raikage, are different from the kanji "雷". --Leodix ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 19:07, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Kishimoto has been known to do stylized kanji. ~SnapperTo 19:12, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to point, however, that there is a difference between the tattoos. The dashes on the rain radical are connected in Darui's tattoo, but not in the Raikage's. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:25, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Raikage's tattoo is the same as Darui's in chapter 515. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 22:08, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

So basically, he drew it wrong sometime. Maybe it'll be corrected in the volume release. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:17, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

In Chapter 457, Chapter 464, page 13, Chapter 458, page 4 Darui's tatoo is the same of chapter 526. (Image:Chapter 457) --Leodix ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 23:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)