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'mother of Asuma Sarutobi'

Where did it say that? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 23:09, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Logic says that. Hiruzen is Asuma's father, and Biwako is Hiruzen's wife. It only makes sense for her to be his mother. In the absense of anything indicating Hiruzen cheated on his wife, that's fact until proved otherwise. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:16, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
Whoops, misread that line. Thank you. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 23:22, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's still speculation, he could've had a wife before Biwako, or anything could have happened. You can't instantly assume she's Asuma's mother or Konohamaru's grandmother. It's one of the things that annoys about this wiki too; even if it's obviously true we can't post something until it's been absolutely confirmed; either in a chapter or in a databook or in a fan book.Awale (talk) 20:41, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

it is pretty obvious and is reasonable to place that she is Asuma's mother since there are no one else that the third hokage had a relationship was. This is probably one of those things that will never be fully reveled unless it is done in a data book. Darthwin (talk) 00:08, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Death

Now sure, she's on the floor bleeding but that doesn't say she's dead. How many times has a Naruto character gone down like that, but still lived... Honestly a lot of the stuff on this page sounds like speculation. (And sure she isn't alive to date but still until they somehow confirm her death, I won't buy it.) Oh and sorry if I'm being too aggressive about this...Awale (talk) 20:50, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Have you forgotten that the place blew up afterwards? ~SnapperTo 21:21, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Biwako's Height

Biwako has to be high at least 175 cm, because Asuma, her son, is 190.8 cm and Hiruzen, his husband, is 163.1 cm. So the wife should be higher than the husband and I think it's possible, calculating the height with the online calculator it must be like that.

therefore...? and sign your posts and such forth --Cerez365 (talk) 20:10, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
Even if it was possible to perfectly accurately calculate someone's height based on the heights of their child and spouse, this little theory still doesn't take into account the likelihood that these characters shrank with old age. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 23:41, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Se lo dici tu... forse, anzi probabilmente hai ragione. Grazie lo stesso, ciao

Death?

Can we edit it to say presumed deceased, and mention only that she was knock unconsicious by MAdara?Justin.vs.Courtney.vs.Heather (talk) 19:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Justin.vs.Courtney.vs.Heather

#Death ~SnapperTo 19:27, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
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