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| − | Ameyuri is female or male? I personally think she is a woman --[[User:Leodix|Leodix''']]/[[User Talk:Leodix|'''My Talk''']]/[[Special:Contributions/Leodix|'''Contributions''']] 05:26, January 13, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :I think the character should remain genderless, either until gender is specified, or [[User:ShounenSuki|if someone]] is familiar with Japanese names and culture, they could figure out if it's male or female. Yes, I think she's a women also, but then that would be adding speculation to her/his page. '''''~ [[User:Fmakck|Fmakck]] - [[User talk:Fmakck|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Fmakck|Contributions]]''''' 05:36, January 13, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I agree this is the same situation Kurotsuchi was in.[[User:Deva 27|Deva 27]] ([[User talk:Deva 27|talk]]) 05:42, January 13, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | Regarding Shippuden episode 289, I can upload the profile image, but I wanted to discuss with you the grim smile. Have you seen it, and is it worth uploading the image in your opinion? --[[User:Vecanoi|Vecanoi]] ([[User talk:Vecanoi|talk]]) 14:35, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | Since Shounensuki says that yuri is a common female name ending, should Ameyuri be considered female? |
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+ | :I was thinking about [[:File:Ameyuri.png|this]] one.--[[User:Vecanoi|Vecanoi]] ([[User talk:Vecanoi|talk]]) 15:22, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
| − | ::While it's common there are males with their names ending in 'yuri' While i believe that this person is probably male given Kirigakure's whole background, leaving the character genderless couldn't hurt i suppose.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez365]] ([[User talk:Cerez365|talk]]) 01:01, January 14, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | ::There is a better way of linking to images you know. See in source mode how I changed the link in your message. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 16:15, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Question: Is there any reason, other than "yuri" in the name, that suggest that this character is female?--'''[[User:TheUltimate3|TheUltimate3]]'''[[User Talk:TheUltimate3| ~Aspect of Wiki ~ ]] 01:11, January 14, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Ameyuri does have a somewhat feminine appearance. I don't think I've ever seen a name ending in 由利 being used for a man. That and Ameyuri's androgynous appearance is enough to at least bring their gender in doubt. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 01:17, January 14, 2011 (UTC) |
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+ | :::It's fine I guess. If the others are being changed to mistless ones, this should be okay as well.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:00, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::Like with everything else, let's leave it until the manga tells us. While Ameyuri Ringo does have female looks, there's also the fact that the Swordsmen are infact that; Men. So I think we should leave the gender blank until we find out for sure. Could just be like Haku. Look female but was well, a male. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 08:27, January 27, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :::I don't like that image, it just looks so wrong. Just because an image is available doesn't mean it's usuable. Her mouth is open and many of the editors here have a hate for people with their mouth open. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]] | [[User:Speysider/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:Speysider/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [[w:c:supersajuuk|My Wiki]] | [http://youtube.com/user/SuperSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 20:17, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :In most languages, even one male member means a group is referred to by its male form. So, don't take swords''men'' to mean it consists of only men. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 08:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | ::::And you'd have a point if not for two things. If there was a ''gaping mouth''' and if this weren't one of the Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. It's preferred that their images show their teeth when possible (you can check Kisame's talkpage/archives). So there's nothing wrong with the image, at all.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:25, November 16, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Well duuuh, I knew this. I'm referring to the facts we know. The ressurected are all male with the exception of Ameyuri Ringo, as this is what we're debating, obviously. The next generation were also male. Going back to my previous statement Snapper, let's just leave it until the manga tells us, like we usually do. I wasn't claiming to be a know it all, as my previous statement clearly shows. [[User:SusanooUnleashed|SusanooUnleashed]] ([[User talk:SusanooUnleashed|talk]]) 10:54, January 27, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :::@Snapper2: I would like to point out that the Japanese name has no gender-related wordings. it's completely gender-neutral. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 09:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | when she destroyed the fake trap at 08:20, is she using another technique than before? I'm asking because she didn't use her swords for this one, instead she surrounds herself with lightning which she then shoots at the trap to destroy it. [[User:Ogga111|Ogga111]] ([[User talk:Ogga111|talk]]) 15:41, November 15, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::All the more reason not to take "swordsmen" as significant. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 17:30, January 27, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | I swear, she has a thing for Omoi. Not petitioning for it to be added to the page or anything since it's not all that distinctive but just bringing it to discussion. I mean, when he was being lifted out of the bottomless marsh, she commented in the afterlife she's going to eat what she ''likes''first. I don't know about anyone else but I took that as a hint.. xD Also, at the very end as she was about to sink fully into the marsh she said she would be waiting for him on the other side. Sounds pretty... ehh... whats the word. Suggestive? For a lack of a better term. Just thought I'd share my thoughts, maybe they could prove a possible point, maybe not... yknow. Anyway, what do you guys think?--[[User:AkasunaNoJade|AkasunaNoJade]] ([[User talk:AkasunaNoJade|talk]]) 10:21, November 16, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :::::I'm putting Ameyuri as a man. Reason:The other members are male, the appearence may be like Haku, the name is "The 7 Swordsmen", and a woman's name is sometimes used for a man like Lesly. --[[User:JonathanTennysion|Jonathan]] ([[User talk:JonathanTennysion|talk]]) 20:54, June 12, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | :If you're not petitioning for it to be added to the pages, then you shouldn't have brought it up here. This isn't a forum.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:57, November 16, 2012 (UTC) |
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| + | I think noting her interest in him as a strong and worthy opponent is in order, which I'm not sure, has that been covered? And while I agree she totally has a thing for him, I don't think beyond Fanfiction getting a new ship that we can note much more than a warrior's admiration. --[[User:Hawkeye2701|Hawkeye2701]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye2701|talk]]) 12:22, November 16, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | # Lesly is actually a masculine name. Lesley is feminine and Leslie is unisex. Names with the -yuri ending are almost exclusively used for women. |
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| − | # The fact that most members of a group are male does in no way lessen the possibility of one member being female. Akatsuki had only one female member but it has had almost a dozen male members over time. |
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| − | # Male group names like 'swordsmen' can refer to groups with women in them. Not that it matters, as the original Japanese name is completely gender-neutral. |
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| − | —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 21:01, June 12, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | Such an erotic romance... but he better keep far his "fruit" from her teeth, looks dangerous. Who knows how fast she could munch-crunch his "lollipop" --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 03:37, November 17, 2012 (UTC) |
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| + | I see where he's coming from though, it's not an uncommon plot twist for a strong female fighter to fall for someone who can stand up to her in anime. really standard star crossed lovers writing if you ask me (from two different villages that hated each other, one of them is undead, can only meet in battle, etc etc). shippers gonna ship :p [[Special:Contributions/174.17.180.245|174.17.180.245]] ([[User talk:174.17.180.245|talk]]) 15:19, November 23, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | I am not informed about names and surnames in japanese, so could someone explain me is his name Ringo or Ameyuri? [http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/49734516/11 Here] it is Ringo Ameyuri, and I know that in English it is more frequent to use first name and then surname, and since this is an english translation is ''his'' name Ringo?--[[User:Ttogafer|Ttogafer]] ([[User talk:Ttogafer|talk]]) 11:52, January 14, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | :Ameyuri is the given name, Ringo is the family name. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 12:09, January 14, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | Ringo is his/her first name, and Ameyuri is his/her last name. Quite obvious seeing as how Ameyuri is placed before Ringo. Ringo is a common first name, and I doubt that there is a clan out there named after an apple rather than rain. Another note, Ringo is known to be specific to mostly females which heightens the possibility of Ameyuri Ringo being a woman.{{Unsigned|151.200.188.202}} |
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| − | :How do I put this so that I won't hurt your feelings... You're wrong. In Japanese, Ameyuri's name is written as {{translation|Ringo Ameyuri|林檎雨由利}}. Since in Japanese, the family name comes before the given name, Ringo is the family name here and Ameyuri the given name. —[[User:ShounenSuki|ShounenSuki]] <sup>([[User_talk:ShounenSuki|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/ShounenSuki|contribs]] | [[User:ShounenSuki#Translations|translations]])</sup> 14:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC) |
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| + | I watched the anime episode with her in it, but her hair in the anime and in the image looks closer to the color Claret(a dark purplish red)[http://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/801638.png] so like a mix of purple and red, not really red ...... not really a big deal but..... |
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| + | --[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 04:16, May 2, 2013 (UTC) |
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| + | :We stick to basic primary colours as best as possible. Claret for you is simply an off-tone of red for the wiki.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:54, May 2, 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | should it be noted that he has blue hair cus he does.{{Unsigned|67.142.175.22}} |
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| − | :That's odd, since Ameyuri hasn't appeared in a manga colour spread or been animated yet.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 22:32, July 24, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | ::i`ve seen one of him in the anime i found online {{unsigned|67.142.175.22}} |
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| − | :::No you haven't. Ameyuri has yet to appear in a colour in the manga, or to appear in the anime. What you saw was a fanart. Most likely something hosted at deviantART. And we don't know whether Ameyuri is a he or a she, so we just call Ameyuri Ameyuri. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 01:20, July 25, 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | Any new information on this shinobi's gender? I don't like that the Seven Swordsman infobox just has a very noticeable break, and just like last year, I can't break the feeling the only reason this character, who has a common female name suffix, gender is in question is because the character lacks breasts and that is apparently a no-no.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:12, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::True it does go both ways. Still, Ameyuri has a feminine name and based on the last discussion a year ago, the primary reason for not changing it was the unwritten one that brought this entire thing into people's mind (small stature, no breasts, feminine name) and the group was called the Seven Swords''man''.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:25, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | In my opinion it doesn't look like a chick at all ... maybe a muscular breasts-less chick with male jaw. Likely a lesbian or some tranny --[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 13:38, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :For whatever reason I read everything as if a voice in my head is speaking to me. It helps give me context when it is hard to see one. I have no idea why, but that comes off as terribly offensive when it plays in my head...--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:41, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Ah it does sound that way and a bit ignorant. Mangaka have creative license to draw their characters however they please and give them whatever gender they want. I didn't know for example, that Smellerbee from Avatar was a girl but after this revealation I began seeing feminine features in her face. I think it's possible that Ameyuri is female (the Swordsman thing is probably the general use of the term and not gender specific). So with all the problems it may cause, I think we should leave it as is until Kishimoto confirms.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:49, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :::I feel that is unnecessary dancing around the issue. We have reasons a stronger reason that the character is female (the name) than we do we do for male (Swordsman) when you take out the physical characteristics.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:55, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | That's not logical as I can name myself Jane but physically I'm a guy.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 14:19, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | Jane would be odd to name a male. Having the suffix "yuri" is odd to name a male. It's possible yes, but it doesn't change the fact that its a female suffix.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 15:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I would happily label Ameyuri a female, then change it to male if proven wrong. I would do it while doing an Irish jig in a video after being pelted with banana peels if that will make someone feel better. But not having a gender is just...dumb imo.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Sarutobi Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:00, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Ameyuri looks like a girl imo. But I'm on to her being a girl. —[[User:IndxcvNovelist|IndxcvNovelist]] <sup>([[User talk:IndxcvNovelist|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/IndxcvNovelist|contribs]])</sup> 16:06, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | Ameyuri Ringo appears in the latest episode, but it is not mentioned in her infobox. I want to edit her page but I'm not allowed to. Could someone do it for me? {{Unsigned|Axel Carrozzo}} |
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| − | :No, she does not appear in this episode. --[[User:Speysider|Speysider]] ([[User_talk:Speysider|Talk Page]]) 18:55, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | Well, technically, she does. In the background, at least.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:57, May 31, 2012 (UTC) |
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Anime image
Regarding Shippuden episode 289, I can upload the profile image, but I wanted to discuss with you the grim smile. Have you seen it, and is it worth uploading the image in your opinion? --Vecanoi (talk) 14:35, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
- For me, I won't be sure what you're talking about until I can see it.--Cerez365™
(talk) 14:41, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
- There is a better way of linking to images you know. See in source mode how I changed the link in your message. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:15, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't like that image, it just looks so wrong. Just because an image is available doesn't mean it's usuable. Her mouth is open and many of the editors here have a hate for people with their mouth open. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | My Wiki | Channel 20:17, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
- And you'd have a point if not for two things. If there was a gaping mouth' and if this weren't one of the Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. It's preferred that their images show their teeth when possible (you can check Kisame's talkpage/archives). So there's nothing wrong with the image, at all.--Cerez365™
(talk) 11:25, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
- And you'd have a point if not for two things. If there was a gaping mouth' and if this weren't one of the Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. It's preferred that their images show their teeth when possible (you can check Kisame's talkpage/archives). So there's nothing wrong with the image, at all.--Cerez365™
New technique
when she destroyed the fake trap at 08:20, is she using another technique than before? I'm asking because she didn't use her swords for this one, instead she surrounds herself with lightning which she then shoots at the trap to destroy it. Ogga111 (talk) 15:41, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Lightning Release: Depth Charge doesn't use the swords.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:48, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
Regarding Omoi...
I swear, she has a thing for Omoi. Not petitioning for it to be added to the page or anything since it's not all that distinctive but just bringing it to discussion. I mean, when he was being lifted out of the bottomless marsh, she commented in the afterlife she's going to eat what she likesfirst. I don't know about anyone else but I took that as a hint.. xD Also, at the very end as she was about to sink fully into the marsh she said she would be waiting for him on the other side. Sounds pretty... ehh... whats the word. Suggestive? For a lack of a better term. Just thought I'd share my thoughts, maybe they could prove a possible point, maybe not... yknow. Anyway, what do you guys think?--AkasunaNoJade (talk) 10:21, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
- If you're not petitioning for it to be added to the pages, then you shouldn't have brought it up here. This isn't a forum.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:57, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
I think noting her interest in him as a strong and worthy opponent is in order, which I'm not sure, has that been covered? And while I agree she totally has a thing for him, I don't think beyond Fanfiction getting a new ship that we can note much more than a warrior's admiration. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 12:22, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
Such an erotic romance... but he better keep far his "fruit" from her teeth, looks dangerous. Who knows how fast she could munch-crunch his "lollipop" --Elveonora (talk) 03:37, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
I see where he's coming from though, it's not an uncommon plot twist for a strong female fighter to fall for someone who can stand up to her in anime. really standard star crossed lovers writing if you ask me (from two different villages that hated each other, one of them is undead, can only meet in battle, etc etc). shippers gonna ship :p 174.17.180.245 (talk) 15:19, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
hair
I watched the anime episode with her in it, but her hair in the anime and in the image looks closer to the color Claret(a dark purplish red)[1] so like a mix of purple and red, not really red ...... not really a big deal but..... --Deathmailrock (talk) 04:16, May 2, 2013 (UTC)