Talk:Allied Shinobi Forces

Picture

Should we add a picture to this, like chapter 491, pages 6 to 7, where the five Kages and Mifune sitting together? They all represent the leaders of six countries within the alliance. The problem is, I can't find the raw scan for the chapter, so can someone do it? Yatanogarasu 18:10, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Your not likely to find any raw scans anymore... - SimAnt 18:23, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I know, with MangaHelpers stopping raw scans. So should we just use pictures from translated scans? Yatanogarasu 18:27, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe File:Kage Summit.PNG? Same basic idea. ~SnapperTo 23:54, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, Danzō's there, and he's not just a traitor, but also not part of the alliance anymore. We want the most updated, with Tsunade. Yatanogarasu 00:53, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

eh, its not that he is not part of it anymore, he was never part of it. - SimAnt 00:54, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

The colored image from that chapter 489. That's basically it...if you ignore Fu and Torume. Now how do we get one we could use however is up in the air.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:32, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Or Deva can put images up like he did and I simply missed it. >:( --TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:34, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Divisions

Since they're so big, I don't think we should list them as teams. We're not going to do that are we? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:36, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

I certainly wouldn't consider them teams. I wouldn't know what else to put it under, though. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 23:41, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

You're nitpicking about word choice. The Team category/infobox/parameter is intended for groups of ninja, regardless of whether or not they are too large or small to fit the definition of a "team". ~SnapperTo 23:52, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Giving the team parameter a broader definition is only going to make it useless. Teams are small groups of people who work closely together. if we're going to expand this meaning to include every group of people, we might as well list the entire Allied Forces as a team, and the ANBU, the hunter-nin squad, the Konoha regular forces, Kumogakure... —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 23:57, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

I knew you were going to say that. Better get the word out then, I already see that the division article in the team parameter of some character infoboxes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:02, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's a way of sorting, nothing more. ANBU and hunter-nin are sorted with Property:Classification, ninja by Property:Loyalty. Unless you want to argue that the divisions would be better off with one of those options, or that a new something-or-other should be created for the sole purpose of accommodating division-like groups, Team fits our purposes. ~SnapperTo 00:07, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Unless we have a detailed listing of almost every member of each division, then they shouldn't be part of the character infobox. As for Allied Shinobi Forces, i see that as a loyalty the same as loyalty to the land of fire. ANBU and hunter-nins need to move out of classification someday. (at least out of that property and into one of their own) SimAnt 00:17, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

You can say it's nothing more than a way of sorting, but it isn't. It is also a way of giving information. Just like how I've been saying for a long time now that ANBU should be a rank and not a classification. Saying any different is simply wrong and gives the wrong impression to the readers. —ShounenSuki ^{(talk | contribs | translations)} 00:27, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think you're looking into the "Team" parameter to deeply. It probably could have been called "Property:Group" or something and it would keep the same meaning. It's a mechanic thing, something so that we can organize the various teams, organizations, affiliations, whatever the kids are calling them on da streets nowadays without having to build a million different infoboxes for everything. Basic programing thing: If it works well, reuse it.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 01:12, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

pics

It's important to put a pic of the headband since it is symbolic of their historical unity as one.--Zicoihno (talk) 01:59, November 3, 2010 (UTC)