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== Naruto Gaiden ==
on most of the members teams it has Kurama listed as a target; thats not technically true; only Itachi and Nagato were ever canonically assigned to capture Naruto. I do believe it was simply the others chose to go after naruto because he was in the area (Deidara, Sasori, Hidan, etc.) Is it alright if i remove Kurama from the other teams targets?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 04:40, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
:But they targeted him. Well not Hidan and Kakuzu, but, Sasori and Deidara did. This was something Deidara went as far as to apologise to Itachi for beforehand.--[[User:Cerez365|Cerez<small>365</small><sup>™</sup>]][[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]][[User talk:Cerez365|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:33, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
::No, Hidan and kauzu did too; they said they were going to Konoha to find Naruto. Besides, they weren't officially assigned to capture him, it was just Sasori and Deidara's choice to get him since he was there.--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 03:21, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Regarding the dude wearing the Akatsuki cloak in Gaiden. Should we add that to this page as a sort of underground sect/revival scheme, or should we wait for more information to become available? --[[User:NeedleJizo|Jizo 悟]] ([[User talk:NeedleJizo|talk]]) 18:36, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
== Member Status and Additional Column==
 
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:Let's wait since people are in wishes not to ''speculate about their affiliations''.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 18:38, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
Konan is dead, can I change her status to deceased? Also, I remember before there was a column that listed which particular ninja killed/incapacitated the member, i.e. Nara Shikamaru for Hidan. Why was that taken down? --[[User:Littlemissdoodle|Littlemissdoodle]] ([[User talk:Littlemissdoodle|talk]]) 23:46, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
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::I'm going to use the talk to avoid getting into an edit war with SuperSaiyanMan. Just because Shin's father wears the cloak, we automatically assume he's part of the Akatsuki. That's a rather double-standard, considering how Konan still wears her cloak after she defected. I honestly don't think we should be jumping the gun here. Again, just because Shin's father wears the cloak, he's part of the organization? He could, for all intents and purposes, just be wearing the cloak for the heck of it. Who's to say that the renewed organization consist of more members than just Shin and his father? We hardly know anything about them.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:57, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:Akatsuki/Archive 3#Decreased.2C Revived .26 Defected|here]] for why konan isn't added. Also, I don't recall the killer list on this page, but we do have that on the [[Plot_of_Naruto#Deaths_2|Plot]] page. — [[User talk:Simant|S<small>im</small>A<small>nt</small>]] 23:55, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::Bringing up Konan is a poor example, because we cover the entire series at once. Even though she defected, she was still an Akatsuki, so it's never getting removed. Having said that, I agree with your premise NinjaSheik. Wearing the Akatsuki garb isn't necessarily indicative of anything. In fact, since this place is soooo anal to a fault about leaving speculation out, listing him as Akatsuki is jumpping the gun to an extreme, given how large a role the organization played throughout the series.--[[User:Minamoto15|Minamoto15]] ([[User Talk:Minamoto15|Talk]]) 23:23, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
::Got it, thanks. Well now, that was analyzed down to the intricacies. Saw the plot page too but that's not it. I distinctly remember the additional column, either way I'll sort through the archives / other pages. Maybe there was a prior discussion that merited its removal. --[[User:Littlemissdoodle|Littlemissdoodle]] ([[User talk:Littlemissdoodle|talk]]) 00:12, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
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::::I see no issue listing him as Akatsuki. Just because that's the group's name, it doesn't mean that the agenda is the same. Compare Akatsuki as we saw it during most of the series, with Akatsuki we saw in the flashbacks of the Ame Orphans. Both were Akatsuki, but their goals were completely different. This is no different from Obito using Madara's name to inspire fear, except this time it's a person using an affiliation instead of another identity. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 23:50, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
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The major thing I'm hesitant about is we literally have no idea if they ''are'' Akatsuki. For all we know they could be part of some new organization and he only wears a Akatsuki cloak because it was the first thing he found next to him. Also noting, his son does not wear the red clouds.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Akimichi Symbol.svg|30px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:12, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:Also true. I'd say we wait. It's not gonna kill anybody to do so.
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::Konan wears the cloak because of it means to her personally, the group she started with Yahiko and Nagato. Officially speaking, though, she's no longer a member of either group. I just see her as an example in a different way. But whatever. Also, the same can go for people who are "soooo anal" about listing characters' deaths when it's not actually confirmed until several chapters later, right? Policy is there for a reason, and from what I saw, people have been wrong before about Obito dying about a dozen times until it actually happened. Back on topic, TheUltimate3 is right. Who says to that they ARE Akatsuki? Shin doesn't even wear the cloak. So, if he doesn't wear it, is he NOT a member, too, or is merely working as a good soldier for his father? Who can say for sure, because WE HARDLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. So, final decision: Is it all right to move the paragraph? I don't want want to start an edit war.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:02, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:::Speaking of Konan, the ame orphans wore Amegakure headbands because they could relate to Hanzo wanting to bring about peace, despite them not being shinobi of his village. So the same could be said about this hooded figure wearing an akatsuki insignia because he shares the same ideology as the akatsuki did. --[[User:Sarutobii2|Sarutobii2]] ([[User talk:Sarutobii2|talk]]) 03:29, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
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::::That is a good point! If no one has a counterargument, then the info should be removed. WindStar is right. Let's just wait. It's not gonna kill anybody.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:39, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Agreed. That was my point.--[[User:Minamoto15|Minamoto15]] ([[User Talk:Minamoto15|Talk]]) 03:57, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
   
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:::::: Now that Shins Father has clearly stated his intentions of reviving the Akatsuki [http://img4.mangasee.co/series/NarutoGaidenTheSeventhHokage/0005-015.png (1)], should we add Shin Uchiha & Sharingan Spying Creature as an Akatsuki team, add Akatsuki agenda under Shins Father, & add a third Akatsuki group being the Akatsuki under Shins Father? --[[User:DC52|DC52]] ([[User talk:DC52|talk]]) 04:17, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
== Kumogakure & Akatsuki ==
 
I came across this line on the page and couldn't help but think it was a little off for some reason:
 
<blockquote>''"The Fourth Raikage claims that only Kumogakure has never used Akatsuki's services"''</blockquote>
 
Is this accurate? From what I understood, during the Kage Summit, the Raikage said that Kumogakure never produced any missing-nin that joined Akatsuki, not that they had never used it's services before. I draw this conclusion based on the fact that there are no current or former Cloud ninja aligned with Akatsuki and that it seems unlikely that Konoha would use Akatsuki's "services" after their reformation prior to the third shinobi world war, considering Pain's goals would have been to destroy Konoha and capture the Nine Tails. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't have that particular episode in front of me so I'm not sure if that statement is wrong or if it was simply mistranslated. --[[User:Furbag|Furbag]] ([[User talk:Furbag|talk]]) 05:05, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
== New Image ==
== this might have been discussed already, but... ==
 
Shouldn't Taka be treated as members instead of an associated group? They were even given cloaks, something only Akatsuki members wear. It was very brief, but it was nonetheless--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:34, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
:It has been discussed before somewhere. They're not considered members because they never wore the rings. It goes back to Tobi getting into the group after recovering Sasori's ring and taking his spot. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 20:02, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Oh right, not just cloaks, forgot the rings need to be worn as a sort of membership recognition as well. Most of them are no longer available tho :)
 
::* Deidara's = gone in a suicidal explosion
 
::* Hidan's = decomposed by earth
 
::* Kisame's = made sharks' feces
 
::* Kakuzu's = turned into gunpowder with wind-powered grinder
 
::* Konan's = rusted by water
 
::* Orochimaru's = rotten; not recommended for further use due to odor and bacteria being present... also who knows where that guy sticked his fingers
 
::* Nagato's = should be in Obito's possession
 
::* Sasori's = still on Obito's finger? Haven't noticed, since his face alone occupies my attention
 
::* Itachi's = should be in Obito's possession; blood present, possible risk of STD
 
::* Zetsu's = burnt by magical eyes/cut by shark sword or just thrown away
 
::See? 2 rings just simply wouldn't do for 3 members ;D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 17:27, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::We don't really know how the rings worked, or what they were made of. Just because most are unavailable, doesn't mean they've been destroyed. Their purpose seemed to be related to the sealing of the tailed beasts, but that was never explained in detail. We'll either never hear from them again (most likely), or there will be a WTF plot twist in which they'll be recovered, revealed to be relics from or related to the Sage of the Six Paths and the splitting of the Ten-Tails, and required to do something about the Ten-Tails. You heard it here first, and I did call the Second Mizukage being a Hōzuki before anyone else here. Kishimoto took 400+ chapters to reveal the Zabuza's sword had a power, and we're about the same chapter distance since the rings were introduced. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:21, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::Likin' your enthusiasm about something as minor. For your sake I hope those don't turn to be just costume jewelry. But a nice theory nonetheless, will be sure to credit you on all known forums in case it comes to pass ;D--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 19:08, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::I was joking up there. I have no expectation that the rings will ever be relevant, let alone mentioned or shown again. But please, do credit me if my some miracle if it ever does come to pass. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 19:52, August 6, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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I'm sure there some people will have an issue with the lightning, but here's a much better image to consider- [https://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/akatsuki-and-limited-tsukuyomi.jpg].--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 21:17, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
== Deidara and Tobi ==
 
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:Hmm, I can see why you'd think this one's better, given that everyone's face is visible in this one. But yes, the lighting isn't very good.--[[User:Minamoto15|Mina]] [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] <small><sup> [[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Minamoto15|contribs]]</sup></small> 00:20, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
The article states that "After Deidara's death, Tobi revealed his true personality and began to actively work to his own goals." While this statement is technically true, it seems to imply that Deidara had no idea who Tobi was. But we don't know that for sure. For all we know Deidara was just playing along when Tobi was acting "childish". He surely witnessed Tobi subduing Isobu without a struggle. Didn't show any hint of surprise and just went on one of his rants about art. The way I see it, even if he didn't know about Obito and stuff, he atleast knew it was Madara or some other Uchiha with a freakin powerful Sharingan. There's also the part when Tobi tells Kisame "Sorry you're the last to know" or something like that. Which could very well mean that all the other Akatsuki members knew he was much more than the "childish" personality he played on-screen, including Deidara.--[[User:Karunyan|Karunyan]] ([[User talk:Karunyan|talk]]) 02:58, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
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::Still leagues above the current one. Like you said, everyone's face is visible. Besides, it just looks much cleaner as opposed to the current one.--[[User:KirinNOTKarin98|KirinNOTKarin98]] ([[User talk:KirinNOTKarin98|talk]]) 00:33, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
:Nothing in the manga implies Deidara did know Tobi's identify, so neither should we. If he had known Tobi had a Sharingan, he'd have ranted about it, since he sees those that possess the Sharingan as having no respect for his art. Deidara and many others were already dead or no longer part of Akatsuki when he told Kisame that, they didn't count or matter any more. Tobi meant of the people still involved. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 15:45, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:::I would usually say go with the anime image buts its missing Orochimaru. --[[User:Kris.gilson.12|Kris.gilson.12]] ([[User talk:Kris.gilson.12|talk]]) 00:39, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
   
== Road to Ninja ==
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== Obitos Akatsuki Group ==
When was it implied that Itachi was the leader of the Genjutsu Akatsuki???? there was nothing to really show that, that's just a fan speculation that's better off removed--[[User:Deathmailrock|Deathmailrock]] ([[User talk:Deathmailrock|talk]]) 22:58, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
 
:He certainly looked like the leader. This might come from some press release about the movie. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:53, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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The wiki lists Obito as a leader of the Akatsuki, & lists his goal/agenda as leader. Yet Obito's Akatsuki does not have an "Obito's Group" section, while Shin's Akatsuki does have a "Shin's Group" section. So should an "Obito's Group" section be added, consisting of Obito, Kisame, Black Zetsu, White Zetsu, and Taka as an affiliate? --[[User:DC52|DC52]] ([[User talk:DC52|talk]]) 01:07, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
== Inactive? ==
 
We know that Obito's defected, but should we consider the same for Black Zetsu and the White Zetsu clones? Madara was never technically a part of the organization and they returned to his side. Same plan, different organization, in this case it's Madara himself with his personal goal, not acting under Akatsuki. --[[User:M4ND0N|Mandon]] ([[User talk:M4ND0N|talk]]) 00:28, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
:hmmmm, I'd like to say that Madara is in full control of the organization and Black Zetsu as the only member along with the white zetsu army surviving since they are still fighting after Obito's defection. Madara is one of Akatsuki's founders and the true real mastermind in its current incarnation even though he didn't live to see it's formation and that he left Obito to do it by encouraging Yahiko. Akatsuki doesn't have a common goal but with members with different goal as stated in wiki as of now so having Madara's personal goal added wouldn't be a problem but we still have to confirm it if we agree and that we'll see once the story shows it. --[[User:Masurao14|Masurao14]] ([[User talk:Masurao14|talk]]) 00:28, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Madara's affiliation with Akatsuki ==
 
I just want to make some contributions regarding Madara's affiliation with Akatsuki and I know it's not confirmed if Madara is the founder of Akatsuki's current incarnation since he influenced Yahiko in it's creation but it would make him a spiritual founder since he passed it on to Obito and Nagato. Yahiko is the founder of Akatsuki but the Akatsuki right now is founded by Obito and Nagato as well whom Obito in the first place was influenced by Madara. Speaking of which, Madara needs to have Akatsuki affiliation because Kabuto has one already since he came back before his defeat as an associate. It's okay if Madara is an associate but he could be considered as a leader right now since Obito defected and that he is a spiritual founder from the start. --[[User:Masurao14|Masurao14]] ([[User talk:Masurao14|talk]]) 22:11, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Obito and Zetsu==
 
Looking over their history together throughout the times in Akatsuki and beyond, I really don't think it's too farfetched to classify them as partners. Zetsu is basically the Konan to Obito's Nagato. A chapter cover even called Zetsu Tobi's assistant. I mean they weren't officially partners as far as Tobi/Deidara, Itachi/Kisame and the like, but Obito and Madara weren't technically either, now were they?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 21:47, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Goals ==
 
I may have started this discussion a long time ago and got no responses. Shouldn't this be changed up? Having Yahiko's goal as the Original Goal, Nagato's as the Main Goal, and then just Obito's Goal? Also, I find Itachi's goal unneeded since that section is about the goals of the leaders. --[[User:OmegaRasengan|OmegaRasengan]] ([[User talk:OmegaRasengan|talk]]) 06:43, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Nagato's true goal differed from what he explained to Hidan. Not sure if the cover-up should count as the "main goal" though.--[[User:BeyondRed|BeyondRed]] ([[User talk:BeyondRed|talk]]) 07:12, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
==Obito's Akatsuki==
 
The main image should be labeled as "Obito's Akatsuki" rather than "Nagato's Akatsuki" as Obito was the group's true leader and mastermind after Yahiko's death. Nagato was merely a proxy leader and as such, it would be incorrect to claim Akatsuki as his. [[User:Kenny U|Kenny U]] ([[User talk:Kenny U|talk]]) 21:18, February 19, 2014 (UTC)Kenny U
 
:While technically true, Tobi was not the recognized leader of Akatsuki. In fact he never was. He pulled the strings and had Pain do what he wanted, but he was never the official leader.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:47, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
::He was recognized as leader by Nagato and Konan themselves and Zetsu as well, and after Nagato's demise Kisame recognized him as the one who was truly the leader. [[User:Kenny U|Kenny U]] ([[User talk:Kenny U|talk]]) 00:42, February 20, 2014 (UTC)KennyU
 
:::But Nagato was still the leader as far as day-to-day activities were concerned, everyone else answered to him. Nagato is the CEO. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 00:49, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::The others answers to Nagato, but Nagato answered to Obito. I would say that makes Obito the leader wouldn't you say? I'm fairly certain that there are times where Nagato literally addresses Obito as "Leader". --[[User:Kenny U|Kenny U]] ([[User talk:Kenny U|talk]]) 00:53, February 20, 2014 (UTC)Kenny U
 
:::::Nagato never called Tobi Leader. In fact, right before sending Pain to get the Nine-Tails, Tobi said something along the lines "Do this, you are the Akatsuki Leader after all" or something to that effect. Basically, while Obito was running the show, Obito only really manipulated Nagato. Nagato was still the official leader of Akatsuki.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 12:39, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Nagato ==
 
Why is Nagato listed as "Defected"? He is clearly dead, or why would he be reincarnated during the war? I would edit it myself but Jacce protected the page. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:36, July 4, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Because he defected from Akatsuki before he died. • [[User:Seelentau|Seelentau 愛]] <sup>[[User Talk:Seelentau|議]]</sup> 17:46, July 4, 2014 (UTC)
 
::Isn't he technically both? In a way, saying he's "defected" makes him sound like he is still alive, but he isn't. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 17:51, July 4, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::While yes he is technically both, as far as Akatsuki is concerned, he defected and is no longer their problem. Same reason why Konan and Orochimaru are listed as "Defected".--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:39, July 4, 2014 (UTC)
 
::::its as simple as... did he die loyal like Sasori, Kakuzu, Deidara, Kisame, Hidan (techicality), and White Zetsu? Nope. Same as Konan, Orochimaru, and Obito who renounced Akatsuki before their deaths.--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 13:55, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== True founder ==
 
Okay... so who is it? We have:
 
* Black Zetsu stating himself to have made Akatsuki
 
* Obito telling Konan it was himself, Uchiha Madara who persuaded Yahiko to do it
 
* Yahiko
 
What I'm asking is if Black Zetsu influenced Madara/Obito who in turn influenced Yahiko or if it was Yahiko's original idea. Because if the former, isn't Black Zetsu technically the true founder and leader of Akatsuki?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:19, July 29, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Sewing the seeds and laying groundwork just means you sewed the seeds and laid the groundwork. So, Yahiko is in fact the original founder of Akatsuki. If he got the idea to do so from Tobi who in turn got it from Madara who in turn got it from Black Zetsu, then prime, Yahiko is still the actual founder.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:37, July 29, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
==Image==
 
[[File:Akatsuki.png|thumb]]
 
hows this for the recent iteration of Akatsuki? we can clearly see all members. --[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 20:11, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 
:I don't know if our eyes are different, but I clearly can't see crap. I can make them out because well, we know who they are, but their bodies are blocked by shadow and a overpowering sun.--[[User:TheUltimate3|'''TheUltimate3''']] [[File:Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg|20px]][[User Talk:TheUltimate3| <sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:21, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 
::You can't see crap in that image, just a bunch of bodies. If you find a meaningful image that shows all of the Akatsuki '''clearly''', then go ahead and suggest it: otherwise, it's staying. --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:06, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::well i was thinking more of putting it in the article somewhere, not necessarily as the infobox pic. :P--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 00:28, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
==Zetsu's Ring==
 
When was his ring ever even seen? I dont remember it so whats the source of it being green come from?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 23:13, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Hiden: Tō no Sho Character Official Data Book, pages 180-181 --[[User:Geohound|geohound]] 06:53, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
 
::and theres a colored picture of his ring?--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 21:17, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
:::The source of his ring being green is most likely [[Return of the Kazekage|this episode]] --[[User:SuperSajuuk|SuperSajuuk]] <sup><small>[[User talk:SuperSajuuk|Talk Page]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Images|My Image Uploads]] | [[User:SuperSajuuk/Tabber Code|Tabber Code]] | [http://youtube.com/LPSajuuk Channel]</small></sup> 21:21, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Akatsuki part 1 ==
 
 
Akatsuki members made a silhouette appearance while they were discussing Orochimaru and the Nine-Tails at the end of part 1. We recognised only 8 members. My question is : who was the 9th akatsuki member at this time? [[User:Sioulu|Sioulu]] ([[User talk:Sioulu|talk]]) 22:53, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Most likely one of Kakuzu's previous partners--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 09:18, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
Yeah, i think we disscused this already before. Though i think by the new OVA's logic it must be Hidan. [[User:Munchvtec|Munchvtec]] ([[User talk:Munchvtec|talk]]) 09:22, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
==Game Story=non-canon==
 
the games storyline is totally condtradicting the manga/anime, Deidara was recruited after Orochimaru had long left, he was the reason they recruited Deidara in the first place; to replace him. The game has Oro stick around long enough until Hidan was recruited which was after Dei, so we really shouldnt use the game for canon events.--[[User:RexGodwin|RexGodwin]] ([[User talk:RexGodwin|talk]]) 09:36, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Yes, be welcome to change all instances that treat the game's events as canon that you can find.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 11:07, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Theme Songs ==
 
 
Can the Akatsuki members theme songs get added to Akatsuki page? http://prntscr.com/5kcpor [[User:Sin2|Sin2]] ([[User talk:Sin2|talk]]) 03:17, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 

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Regarding the dude wearing the Akatsuki cloak in Gaiden. Should we add that to this page as a sort of underground sect/revival scheme, or should we wait for more information to become available? --Jizo 悟 (talk) 18:36, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Let's wait since people are in wishes not to speculate about their affiliations.--Omojuze (talk) 18:38, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
I'm going to use the talk to avoid getting into an edit war with SuperSaiyanMan. Just because Shin's father wears the cloak, we automatically assume he's part of the Akatsuki. That's a rather double-standard, considering how Konan still wears her cloak after she defected. I honestly don't think we should be jumping the gun here. Again, just because Shin's father wears the cloak, he's part of the organization? He could, for all intents and purposes, just be wearing the cloak for the heck of it. Who's to say that the renewed organization consist of more members than just Shin and his father? We hardly know anything about them.--NinjaSheik 21:57, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
Bringing up Konan is a poor example, because we cover the entire series at once. Even though she defected, she was still an Akatsuki, so it's never getting removed. Having said that, I agree with your premise NinjaSheik. Wearing the Akatsuki garb isn't necessarily indicative of anything. In fact, since this place is soooo anal to a fault about leaving speculation out, listing him as Akatsuki is jumpping the gun to an extreme, given how large a role the organization played throughout the series.--Minamoto15 (Talk) 23:23, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
I see no issue listing him as Akatsuki. Just because that's the group's name, it doesn't mean that the agenda is the same. Compare Akatsuki as we saw it during most of the series, with Akatsuki we saw in the flashbacks of the Ame Orphans. Both were Akatsuki, but their goals were completely different. This is no different from Obito using Madara's name to inspire fear, except this time it's a person using an affiliation instead of another identity. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:50, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

The major thing I'm hesitant about is we literally have no idea if they are Akatsuki. For all we know they could be part of some new organization and he only wears a Akatsuki cloak because it was the first thing he found next to him. Also noting, his son does not wear the red clouds.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol (talk) 00:12, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Also true. I'd say we wait. It's not gonna kill anybody to do so.
WindStar7125 Divine Mangekyō Sharingan VolteMetalic 00:16, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
Konan wears the cloak because of it means to her personally, the group she started with Yahiko and Nagato. Officially speaking, though, she's no longer a member of either group. I just see her as an example in a different way. But whatever. Also, the same can go for people who are "soooo anal" about listing characters' deaths when it's not actually confirmed until several chapters later, right? Policy is there for a reason, and from what I saw, people have been wrong before about Obito dying about a dozen times until it actually happened. Back on topic, TheUltimate3 is right. Who says to that they ARE Akatsuki? Shin doesn't even wear the cloak. So, if he doesn't wear it, is he NOT a member, too, or is merely working as a good soldier for his father? Who can say for sure, because WE HARDLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. So, final decision: Is it all right to move the paragraph? I don't want want to start an edit war.--NinjaSheik 03:02, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
Speaking of Konan, the ame orphans wore Amegakure headbands because they could relate to Hanzo wanting to bring about peace, despite them not being shinobi of his village. So the same could be said about this hooded figure wearing an akatsuki insignia because he shares the same ideology as the akatsuki did. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:29, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
That is a good point! If no one has a counterargument, then the info should be removed. WindStar is right. Let's just wait. It's not gonna kill anybody.--NinjaSheik 03:39, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. That was my point.--Minamoto15 (Talk) 03:57, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
Now that Shins Father has clearly stated his intentions of reviving the Akatsuki (1), should we add Shin Uchiha & Sharingan Spying Creature as an Akatsuki team, add Akatsuki agenda under Shins Father, & add a third Akatsuki group being the Akatsuki under Shins Father? --DC52 (talk) 04:17, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

New Image

I'm sure there some people will have an issue with the lightning, but here's a much better image to consider- [1].--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 21:17, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I can see why you'd think this one's better, given that everyone's face is visible in this one. But yes, the lighting isn't very good.--Mina Hatake Symbol talk | contribs 00:20, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
Still leagues above the current one. Like you said, everyone's face is visible. Besides, it just looks much cleaner as opposed to the current one.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:33, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
I would usually say go with the anime image buts its missing Orochimaru. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 00:39, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Obitos Akatsuki Group

The wiki lists Obito as a leader of the Akatsuki, & lists his goal/agenda as leader. Yet Obito's Akatsuki does not have an "Obito's Group" section, while Shin's Akatsuki does have a "Shin's Group" section. So should an "Obito's Group" section be added, consisting of Obito, Kisame, Black Zetsu, White Zetsu, and Taka as an affiliate? --DC52 (talk) 01:07, June 26, 2015 (UTC)