Narutopedia talk:Blocking policy

What about for users who keeps vandalisng pages be it for a short period of time, but does a lot of vandalism, with no signs of him/her stopping?..--AlienGamer--Talk-- 08:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Bad Edits

What if those edits are clear vandalism? For months I always adopted a "If you vandal you take the banhammer" approach. Because at least a year ago, I found out the hard way, when I had to go through every single Jutsu page because someone copied it from Leafninja, that if you give a vandal so much as a second chance, it'll be your last.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Eh, the block policy to me just looks like it gives vandals and bad eggs a lot of wiggle room to be bad. I don't like that.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Ya, same here..I've Reverted enough to know....There are a few who stop at one page...But most just keeps goin until blocked...If i may make a suggestion, if sum1 vandalises, give them a short block immediately, as a warning, and once that expires, if they keep goin, make the block more permanent....--AlienGamer--Talk-- 11:43, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

There are plenty of anons who come here, vandalize a page or two, then never come back. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Aug 17, 2009 _@ 02:47 ^(UTC)

Thats wat i meant by temporary block...Like 30 mins, or sumthin, and if they come bak, maybe make it a week....I mean ppl who page blank, or writhe sumthin like "i Like Pie" or makes sum sexual reference, hardly has any intention of helping this wiki...I just think it giving too much room. If the problem is, othr good editors with the same IP, then i think maybe an Hours ban, will suffice....Just my opinion...--AlienGamer--Talk-- 02:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I know this isn't related to blocking per se, and that there probably isn't anything we can do about it, but can we fix the welcoming-system? People make an unproductive edit and then get a "Thanks for your edit" message. ~SnapperTo 03:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Those vandals that make a edit or two and never come back, usually don't because I (or more recently, Jacce) ban them. I am telling you, a small slap on the wrist only encourages things.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Yep, me with the Ultimate, vandals dont mean to come back and help the wiki....I just see sysops hesitating to block, and giving vandals free reign ovr wat to do......At the very least a short ban, to see if they learn their lesson, if they have, well good for them, they can help out as much as they like, if they dont hovevr, making the block longer seems only sensible....--AlienGamer--Talk-- 10:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

And as a small sidenote, since Jacce started blocking, the number of vandals have reduced significantly...i wud know, as i've reverted plenty of them...--AlienGamer--Talk-- 10:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

And at the same time I've got complaints from users about unreasonable blocks, and looked through the block log to see plenty of potential contributors who made a single mistake and got blocked for it. The welcome system isn't really something that can be changed without disabling, if it bothers you just delete the talkpage if you have to block a vandal. Wiki are founded on assuming good faith and not taking things to the extreme. You can't say that vandals haven't been coming back because of blocks because those blocks stop you from even knowing whether they come back or not. Wiki are based on a model of keeping things open, reverting bad things, and blocking only when the bad goes to an extreme. If you don't feel like reverting then let someone else do it, there are plenty of editors on the wiki. Also don't forget about AbuseFilter which shouldn't take too much longer to be rolled out. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Aug 17, 2009 _@ 16:49 ^(UTC)

• Looks stern in Dantman's eyes* Very well. Very well...lets see how this plays out.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 17:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

being blocked from a page and not sure why

I was blocked from editing the "Hidan" page by someone named Jacce (I believe). I can't respond because the profile has been deleted. I was told by Jacce, "Speculations are not allowed". What did I do? What should I do? --Kurai the Tskukikage

If you had been blocked, you wouldn't have been able to edit this page. Hidan's page was protected since you and some IP users added info that had no source, i.e. Hidan didn't get a new cloak because Kakuzu was to cheap. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 18:59, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought about something. I probably should have said something like, "It is believed that he did not get a new robe due to Kakuzu not wanting to "waste money on something useless." I have heard a lot of speculation about why he didn't get a new robe and that was one of the bigger reasons. Two others were because he didn't feel like getting new robes and he liked how tattered they looked. It is also possible that Kishimoto didn't feel like giving him new robes. --Kurai the Tsukikage

Or they were on their way to buy some. Unless there is a mention why in the manga, databooks, fanbooks, anime, or in a interview with the author, it is speculation, which we don't allow. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 04:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Rewrite

Just done a small rewrite of this policy to take into account the way the page is written and recent events for the wiki. Please comment below. The original intentions of the current policy should hopefully still be made in the rewrite.

{{PolicyPage}}
This is the policy for blocking.

== Bad Edits ==
In practice, users are not to be blocked just because they've made a bad edit. Many users who come by the wiki are probably not aware of the various wiki policies in use so blocking just because of one edit is likely to create acrimony and bad feeling between the user and the administration.

If a user persists in reverting page revisions to show their bad edit or continually makes the same bad edit in multiple pages and ignores their talkpage warnings to stop making such edits, a block is valid. 

=== Repeat Edits ===
A repeat edit can only be considered on a user if the contributions page indicates a fair gap in time between the edits or if another editor has sent the user a message telling them to stop making that edit which they've ignored or have been given plenty of time to not make that edit again.

== Vandals ==
The blocking of obvious vandals is pointless and achieves nothing. Some vandals simply come to make one bad edit and leave and shouldn't be blocked for just one instance of vandalism (a temporary 3 day block may be appropriate, depending on the severity of the vandalism).

== Temp Blocking ==
If a user is ignoring warnings from other editors to stop persisting in vandalism or ignorance of Narutopedia policies, a temporary block may be appropriate. This is useful when the user is currently making such edits while the temporary block is being applied.

It should be noted that the block reason '''will''' show up to the user when they try to edit pages, so this is a good place to put a message because it will be "in their face". Even though user talkpages send out a notification to the user, they can be passively ignored by the recipient whereas a block cannot.

== Civility ==
The Narutopedia expects a certain level of civility between the editors and administrators. Users who do not show any kind of civility towards other users and ignore warnings to remain civil may be blocked.

== Permanent Blocks ==
Permanent blocks should '''not''' be applied without valid reasoning. Examples of reasoning which may warrant a permanent block include:
* Continued harassment and intimidation of other editors
* Repeated violations of Narutopedia policies after constant warnings to stop
* Large scale vandalism which is intended to start an "interwiki" war

== Talkpage Revocation ==
Users should '''not''' be blocked from editing their own talkpage for any reason. The only instance in which a user should have that privilege revoked is if the user has made contributions which abused this privilege or is a persistent vandal or troll who is very likely to abuse the privilege and would have no reason to be allowed to send messages. The same goes towards the ability for users to email other editors.

== Uploads ==
A temporary block may be advised if a user makes a large batch of uploads which violate the [[Narutopedia:Image policy|Image policy]] and the user has not read the policy in detail. A permanent block should be used as a follow up if it is clear the violator has completely ignored the block and has not bothered to read the policy (in some cases, users may read the policy and just choose to deliberately ignore it)

--Speysider ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 13:28, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Bump. --Speysider ^{Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel} 14:01, July 9, 2013 (UTC)