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There have been a lot of sysop requests for file moves. And file moving isn't really in need of as much restriction as other sysop rights. So I've had staff add the movefile right to all autoconfirmed users. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local TalkAnimanga Talk) 22:58, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks bossū.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 15:07, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
On a related topic, why are images being moved to romaji titles? ~SnapperTo 18:09, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
The Romaji text is shorter than some of the literal english used in many of the articles. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:15, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Then don't use the full name? ~SnapperTo 18:20, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hence, the use of the romaji for file names. It's not doing harm to name files using romaji. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:21, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Somehow, using romaji was always the better choice in my eyes, it is closer to the original series than using english monstrosities like Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique — Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands...Norleon (talk) 18:25, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
By my comment, I meant use "Lave Armor" instead of "Lava Release Armor".
I'm not really saying they're doing harm, but they're essentially gibberish as names go. ~SnapperTo 18:27, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

I finally got it, thanks so much for the info. 19:54, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

I never understood why we started using rōmaji in the first place. File names are just that it shouldn't matter if it's a paragraph long as long as it makes sense- even though that is ridiculous to think. It makes it harder for content editor to use keywords to find the images to add to articles in any case, especially when they have macrons.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 20:10, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

I don't really care what the title of a file says as long as it's accurate to what the image is depicting, be it rōmaji, English or description. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:16, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

What Omnibender says. Also, in a lot of cases, romaji names are shorter than the literal english. For example, Sage Art: Many Ultra-Big Ball Spiralling Serial Spheres had an originally very long file name (because the uploader used the literal english) and was made shorter by the use of the Romaji instead. In most cases, the image is just to depict the scene it shows, as long as the file name isn't named after something else irrelevant (eg Gaara newshot.png when the image is clearly of Shikamaru) --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 21:02, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
"File:Senpō Chōōdama Rasen Tarengan.png" doesn't exactly solve the problem of a long filename. And, as Cerez said, the macrons don't help. Surely there's a title that's both shorter and English? ~SnapperTo 21:25, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
It is a mile shorter than the literal english it was previously in. Honestly, nobody else seems to mind the file names being written in Romaji and I don't see why it matters. It's just a file name, stop being anal about file names :/ --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 21:31, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Cerez is a nobody?
And I'm the one being anal about filenames? Have you seen who made most of the filemove requests of Jacce? (hint: their name rhymes with shmeyshmider) ~SnapperTo 21:36, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Stop attacking me Snapper2 just because I have a different opinion to you. If you bothered to read what I said, I said "nobody else seems to mind", key word mind. I didn't say "nobody else seems to care". You derailed this topic with something irrelevant, this thread was only meant for Dantman to say "hey, autoconfirmed users can move file names", it's not meant to be a discussion about what file names should be. People can upload files under whatever name they want, but files are better named in Romaji because, as Norleon said, they're closer to the original interpretation. Omnibender doesn't care about the file names either. Stop trying to force people to your line of thinking.
Also, the insult about my username was really not warranted. I won't be replying further to this thread so don't waste time writing a response directed to me here. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 21:42, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not the person calling people "anal"...
If you bothered to read what I said, I never said "care". I didn't say "mind" either. I was merely pointing out that you alleged nobody else had an opinion when in fact Cerez did, and he is decidedly not a "nobody".
I agree that people can upload files under any name they want. I am therefore questioning why, unless the file's name is inaccurate or has a typo, the files need to be renamed at all.
And it's not an insult. A common way to refer to somebody is to replace the first syllable of their name with a "shma" sound. Pig Latin is acceptable for the same purposes.
It's too bad you won't be responding here, because this has been another rich and vibrant discussion. ~SnapperTo 21:59, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

"Cerez is a nobody?" You walked right into that one Speysider:)

Anyway I have no horse in this race. But I would request that anyone who is renaming files keep the English words either in the title or in the description. People who use the search box to search for "Photos and Videos" are much more likely to type "Fire ball" than "Goukakyu".--Karunyan (talk) 02:57, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Excuse me. "Gōkakyū". See what I mean?--Karunyan (talk) 03:00, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Upload with any name you want. No need of renaming already uploaded images unneccessarily. ~ UltimateSupreme 03:20, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
@Karunyan: I didn't say that he was. Also, as Cerez said once, the images are not there for you to ogle at, they are there just to depict things.
@UltimateSupreme: Right, so why did Dantman then just waste time giving autoconfirmed users the movefile right if it was unnecessary to move the file names ? --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 08:09, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
Because autoconfirmed users (like myself) are apparently trustworthy enough not to use the option unnecessarily like renaming File:Grandfire Ball.PNG to 火遁・豪火球の術.png just because it's "closer to the original interpretation"?--Karunyan (talk) 11:24, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
That's the kanji, nobody is suggesting we move files to Kanji (that is just even worse and I would never suggest such a thing). Stop acting like you are superior to everyone else, it's getting irritating. And no, the reason autoconfirmed users were given the right were due to all the move requests. JFYI, the ONLY images which have file names in romaji are techniques (only in anime) and episode tiles, along with a small subset of location images. That's a small subset of the images here. Images depicting characters, techniques in the games, movies and anime are normally written in English.
Oh and one more thing: if you look through the latest two pages of recent uploads, only a small number (25-30%) of the images are written with a romaji filename. Sometimes I swear people here just bitch for the sake of bitching because things aren't being done their way. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 11:33, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
Well if you want more people to name their files in romanji then we could put up a notice or something and no we're not bitching we're discussing and speysider don't be indirect we all know your talking about a certain someone here --Root 11:36, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
  1. I'm not saying to force people to write files in romaji.
  2. Yes, there is some bitching in this thread.
  3. I'm telling it like it is.
  4. I'm not referring to ANY USER here. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 11:39, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
Speysider, I don't think you see the irony. Anyway, I say we finish this conversation because it's become a fight that isn't needed. It's great that we can now change file names and all that jazz. Joshbl56 16:34, August 16, 2013 (UTC)