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Hi um I need help. I am sort of new here and I like to edit Ino's page but everytime I do it people keep on deleting it. And I get some of these messages sent back to me: "she is not woth editing", "this again I told you she is not worth editing so I will tell you one more time stop editing Ino", and "not a special case". Some of those messages means that they are going to block me for editing it. I read the policies that they can't do that just b/c I'm editing someone's page and that they don't like her. So I was wondering if I could have your permission that I can edit Ino's page w/o anyone deleting it but can fix it if the info isn't sort of right. Please Thank You!--Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 17:02, May 12, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
We avoid making filler arc sections for canon characters, since 9 times out of 10, they're not that important during the arc, appearing here and there. This results in disjointed sentences that don't tell a story, so we simply create a section for the arc, and point the reader to the arc page in question. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:06, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe that this should be throughly discussed and if agreed upon, added to the policy pages. — SimAnt 19:03, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think we should just blindly decide each by ourselves what is or isn't worthy to be mentioned. Shouldn't we list likely literary everything? That's a point of an encyclopedia, isn't it? Emitting information due to bias shouldn't be done.--Elveonora (talk) 19:10, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
But on the filler arcs I've made sentences that told a story. If I edited and you read and liked it may it remain there?Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 21:17, May 12, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
So the question so far is: do we include completely non-canon information in canon users articles. The current practice of only if they are key players in the arc, or lack enough content on their page from canon appearances needs to clarified and put into policy one way or the other. — SimAnt 21:45, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think content should be excluded strictly on the grounds that the character doesn't do a lot. Characters like Ino don't do much in most canon arcs (i.e. Ino Yamanaka#Five Kage Summit Arc) so to exclude non-canon arcs in which she is merely present is a double-standard. That these non-canon summaries appear disjointed can also be said about the canon summaries. The solution is to write them better.
- There can be exceptions: Naruto's article has enough size issues without non-canon summaries, so merely linking to the arc page is acceptable. But, again, characters like Ino don't have that problem. ~SnapperTo 22:43, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Tenten's page has non-canon information, her entire background section comes from a filler episode if I'm remembering correctly, most of the filler arcs are linked and then have a summary of what she did in the arc, except for two of the more recent filler arcs, which are just linked. TricksterKing (talk) 23:16, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Your saying that I can edit Ino's page with better information?
- Tenten's page has non-canon information, her entire background section comes from a filler episode if I'm remembering correctly, most of the filler arcs are linked and then have a summary of what she did in the arc, except for two of the more recent filler arcs, which are just linked. TricksterKing (talk) 23:16, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 16:23, May 18, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
Just to be clear, the issue is not adding filler information to character's articles, in sections like backgrounds etc; we're supposed to account for those in any case. Initially, the linking did start on articles like those for Naruto and Sasuke with larger articles, and then started to extend to persons who had scenes that could otherwise be summed up in one line- which made sense to me instead of the "X was seen" and that was it. Now I believe the main issue is that we've never standardised when it should be added. I've never had a problem with adding the information to "bulk" up an article such as Aoba's for example where there's a a slim chance he'll ever take such a centric canon role, but then it comes down to whether or not an article like Ino's is exactly starving for content that could otherwise be linked in the detailed arc sections. That being said, we just need to make a decision as to whether or not we're going to add content, under what conditions, and so forth.--Cerez365™(talk) 14:13, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
I would like you guys to hear this out before you make a decision. If you say no then what was the point of putting all of those people on the wiki when it comes to their roles. I mean I understand about Naruto and Sasuke what I mean is saying no means that all of that work was for nothing its like you said about Aoba he played a role in the war even though he wasn't mentioned till then. I mean the point is if you say no then what's the point of putting them all there in the first place? They each made a debut that is and is not too major on their arcs which is why that all their information needs to be displayed. What about Tenten? She barely made a debut and people still edit her page b/c they think she needs info on with her lack of debut? Some of the characters have a section on their arc that doesn't seem major. Like they were seen mourning the Third Hokage's funeral nothing else. In Konoha History Arc, Team 10 and 7 did a mission though the only person they edit there was Shikamaru's no one else's which is confusing as there was his team and 7 who was there that time. I'm saying this to think about your decision really carefully and what I said. Thank you! Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 18:34, May 19, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98