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So I know this wikia isn't really one for frivolities and unnecessary functions like blogs and chats but a couple weeks ago someone came here and changed the homepage to the new format that most other wikia have I think. Jacce told them to take it to the community but I haven't seen that user here since.

After seeing it I quite liked it and was wondering if the rest of the community would be interested in having it done like that granted that Simant gives the go-ahead on coding and it's not too much to maintain (like the latest episode and featured character— which looks like someone'll have to be editing the homepage every week). And we get to change some of those images ( '-') that the user put up there.

Here a link to what the user did.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:10, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


I REALLY like the new design of the homepage. Current one looks really bland and uninviting. I definitely say yes to the new homepage :) --Speysider (Talk Page) 11:12, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah. After (months) of being stubborn, and taking a course in HCI (Human-Computer Interaction for those not in the know) a more user friendly homepage wouldn't be so bad. The one issue would be that poll. I don't even know how to set up polls.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 11:25, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Looking at the edit listed above, it seems very simple.
<poll>
Question here
List of answers
</poll> --Speysider (Talk Page) 11:27, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

My issue is the featured character, article and the one about the episodes. If there was a way we could write a command into that that would automatically generate them, that'd be awesome. Also instead of featured characters I think the latest manga chapter would be better there. As for the images being used, a better one for justu and episodes would be required.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:34, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I really like that homepage design as well. =) Skitts (talk) 14:28, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Is there anything wrong with how it looks now?--White Flash (Talk) 14:37, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
It's bland and very outdated, as though it's never been touched since 2005. The site would look more modern with a more modern homepage. --Speysider (Talk Page) 14:38, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
It actually hasn't been touched since about 2008 or so. The last time something new got put on it was the "Wikia's New Look" announcement which for the life of me I still haven't figured out how to remove.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 14:41, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I realize that my say here (as one of the newer members) isn't that big, but I still would like to announce my opinion of this. I think the current homepage looks very bland and too "cold". It doesn't really invite the reader to take a peak in the wikia. The new suggested homepage looks very inviting and interesting! I don't think I would have started to read and watch Naruto if my first impression of Naruto was the homepage of this wikia. :P Derigar (talk) 14:45, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
@TU3 I think that may have been added by Wikia itself from a central control panel and everyone who still uses Monobook probably has it on any wiki so it's something you probably cannot remove. Although, the new Wikia skin is better than Monobook by a mile anyway. --Speysider (Talk Page) 14:47, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I personally can't stand the new wikia skin. But it would seem that's a non-issue as of now and let's get back on the task at hand. Which is, yeah I support a new homepage, and I agree with Cerez's suggestions with some changes to it.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 14:51, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yosh, so with more people we'd just need to decide on the content and the images to be used and such.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:55, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Content should be simple.The large thing at will have Characters, Chapters, Episodes, and Jutsu.
Followed by a "Recent Chapter" and "Recent Episode" based on CrunchyRoll's schedule.
Not sure about anything else. As per usual with me, I would like to point to that lovable child of mine that grew up quickly and kicked the old man to the curb (lol) The Bleach Wiki's main page for an idea. Hell let's also throw the Avatar into this because damn that show is awesome.--TheUltimate3Konohagakure Symbol (talk) 15:03, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Also, stole the mess out of Cerez's sig...--TheUltimate3Konohagakure Symbol (talk) 15:04, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I was going to suggest stealing from these places as well lol. But... you know Ulti, our people aren't supposed to steal from each other ( '-') but sure, go ahead... there 100 other people here that did it e_e --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 15:08, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

We'd actually fit with the rest of the wikis in the Anime/Manga Hub by updating our Home Page to follow that format, if my random clicking across the hub is accurate. And I'm going to be playing with my sig for a bit until I find something interesting lol.--TheUltimate3Konohagakure Symbol (talk) 15:12, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

See that SimAnt's all action.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 15:25, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Seriously, I feel we'd crumble and burn years ago without ShounenSuki and Simant. Just decided to do something with Homepage and already Simant is working on code.--TheUltimate3Konohagakure Symbol (talk) 15:26, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I like the new design its much much better --EzioLover (talk) 16:04, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

The one thing I'm not sure that should be done: featured articles. Will we simply pick random articles? Will we make a discussion group that decides which articles should be featured? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:50, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

If it's possible, you could have a list of content that revolves every day. I know that another wikia does this for their content. --Speysider (Talk Page) 18:55, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I know onepiece wikia uses a random one and that they have a cycle one. I was thinking we'd either replace the featured article with something "different" or use something similar to them and just have it choose them at random since I'm not sure if we want the problem of having to "discuss" what article should be featured.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 19:43, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
TheUltimate3 chooses the one with the least amount of work. So the random one lol.--TheUltimate3Konohagakure Symbol (talk) 19:47, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
^This. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:05, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I especially value the latest episode feature. One of the reasons people come here is to understand, comprehend,interpret the latest chapters and the episodes better. --Vecanoi (talk) 15:43, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

I like the idea although we should change the boxes. It's similar to the Bleach Wiki. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 15:48, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

What exactly is "the boxes" you're referring to? Looking at Bleach's homepage, they have what could be considered the basic format...--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 16:26, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
Are you talking about the featured articles etc. boxes?--White Flash (Talk) 20:08, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
No I mean the style of the box. But by the way it doesn't really look like much, though. I agree with this. Since this would make our wiki's homepage interesting. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 01:40, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Featured Articles

One piece's featured article doesn't revolve everyday, it changes any time the template is purged/edited. I previously worked with pulling random articles with smw, the problem is pulling the summaries from the articles or getting a character with practically no content. It would have to be a fixed list, like one piece, so you guys are going to need to make a large list of characters to put on it and later make/copy summaries for each. — SimAnt 20:28, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Uh-oh, work lol. If we're not going to substitute it for something else then I think I'd be able to help with this but not until around the 8th of May when my undivided time can be put into it. I suppose we could get together a small team (yay teams!) and give them a set of people to do. But first we need volunteers. --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 00:20, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
I could assist I suppose. By the way, one thing I think needs to be covered is this: the default wiki page. Seeing as it's currently the Activity page, once the homepage is nice and proper, will that become the new default page? It would be preferable if we could set our own preference for which one we'd like to be our own personal default page, but I don't know whether or not that's possible within the constraints of wikia's software. Skitts (talk) 00:34, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
I think you can change that in your preferences. It's called your "landing page" if that's what you're referring to o.O --Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 00:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
"Volunteers"? I would love to help. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 01:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

What's the story with the homepage ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 20:19, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

So what's the plan here? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 03:50, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
Step one, make a list on this pages talkpage of characters to feature. Step 2, fill the list with summaries. — SimAnt 05:37, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, well I think it's best to vote for featured characters. I also suggest it SHOULD be changed every week. But I personally suggest Madara, Kabuto, Sasuke, Itachi and Orochimaru would be a good idea as featured characters, considering the plot. POLLS would be highly used in this plan as well. Anyone who agrees?
IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 05:51, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

^Yeah, I agree --Salil Uchiha Symbol (talk) 05:55, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

As for the summary Simant it's just easy. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 06:12, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Proposals

So I was thinking before I saw the rest of the discussion above that we'd go in sequential order: village by village major characters from each village etc... But another editor suggested that we make the featured articles for persons that are centric to the plot now although there's quite a few people. Given that I wanted some order so we don't get confused I believe that'd be fine although I would like more volunteers ( '-') then we'd get right back on schedule. As most of them stand, we could just use their introductory paragraphs to put on the homepage others may require fluffing. So starting with:

--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 21:48, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

I like this, but I personally recommend to use Top Five Characters. Check mine. Count me in on volunteers. I also thought about the introductory paragraphs. So any thoughts about my proposal (as well)? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 07:15, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
What would a volunteer do? Just find characters and come up with summaries?Umishiru (talk) 09:59, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
Based on what Simant tells us is required, a volunteer would only need to write a comprehensive paragraph about the featured characters which is why I thought their summaries would suffice- some have ones that are decent lengths while some would possibly need more "body".
As for the list IndxcvNovelist, we don't have a quote or image section on the homepage since we're trying to have it involve as little maintenance as possible, but any of those can go for featured article.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 10:10, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
In that case I volunteer. I know haven't been active for weeks on end but I have much more time now.Umishiru (talk) 11:03, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
@Cerez365: I see... :) So what is the plan selecting those featured articles? Through polls? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 11:55, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
Articles would cover jutsu and other stuff. Unless another section is going to be created for jutsu (if it can hold that is). Articles are also going to be selected at random from the list we're going to populate, not through polls. That poll thing there is also another issue.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:59, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
I thought the poll would be used so it would be fair but nevermind. Random works best. Featured jutsu is better if it has another section. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 12:14, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

I was expecting a list of at least 30. — SimAnt 07:34, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

LOL it's so many! So what's the decision? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 08:37, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lool oh dear. Well then... back to my original plan then yeah? I'll start a working list below and then from there we can add more...

La lista

Konohagakure

Iwagakure

Kirigakure

Kumogakure

Sunagakure

Miscellaneous


I may have o/d on the Konoha characters (=_=")> but basically the idea is to add all the central characters or ones with decent information that we have so it won't require constant attention from us lest we forget about it or something.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:02, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nice! It's a good idea. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 11:08, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal 2

Characters

  1. Nonō
  2. Danzō (slipped my mind)
  3. Orochimaru
  4. Kabuto
  5. Sasuke
  6. Itachi
  7. Naruto
  8. Tobi
  9. Kakashi
  10. Guy
  11. A
  12. Gaara
  13. Mei
  14. Onoki
  15. Tsunade
  16. Extra:Madara
Jutsu- Sage Mode
Articles- Root
Quotes- You just don't have enough information to explain yourself yet. Your glasses, your name, being someone's child is not something that can show who really you are. But that is fine. If you're not happy on what you have now… you can just find new things to find up. …You see, I also want to find who I really am. That's why I'm collecting a bit of everything.
Latest Episode
Latest Chapter

My Proposal xD I changed some of this. Although I strongly suggest to display the quotes because Naruto has so many good quotes. The chapter and episode is always the target of readers lol. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 11:08, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

We already saw your proposal no? This is about the list SimAnt asked for. All of those people are in the list already. Not too sure what we're doing with jutsu just yet, that's why we're working on featured characters first. No quotes, that requires too much maintenance and with the fact that we're getting even more poorly translated chapters we'd probably be presenting wrong information.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 11:17, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
Reply: Quote: We don't need to change the quotes every week. Probably every month by random and I don't think we could give inaccurate info.
Character: Well as you said we prioritize characters, I added some possible one. I have to admit I just post this one here to remove it from my userpage. #_# —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 03:50, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Decision

Bump. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 11:08, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Have we gotten around to writing the actual summaries yet? Skitts (talk) 12:52, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

I think the summaries are easy to do. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 13:00, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

<edit conflict/> Nope. We're waiting on le SimAnt to proceed.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 13:11, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Never know that I see... so is there any steps left? :) —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 13:17, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

No, just the waiting.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 13:29, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I assume Simant has a job in real life since I only ever see him on here at weekends. --Speysider (Talk Page) 08:18, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Or school? :) I would be inactive as well when school starts (just saying) —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 09:59, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

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