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Hey guys, I was looking at Haku's Page and I noticed most of his justus aren't Ice Release. Is there some reason for that? I feel that at least his Demonic Ice Mirrors should at least be. I didn't change it because I didn't want to get jumped on. So I guess I'm asking, why are they listed that way?? -EriHonjo, Kira and Sarah M. (talk) 07:42, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

i don' know maybe its cause he's only shown three ice release techniques thus far in the series (not counting movies or games). the ice release he's shown are Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals, Ice Release: Ice Dome, Certain-Kill Ice Spears. besides just cause he has a kekkei genkai doesnt meen all his jutsu are. (talk) 08:04, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

I'm not saying all his jutsu are Ice release. I'm asking why Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals aren't listed as "Ice Release". I feel the technical name should be Ice Release: Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals. They technically are. When Kakashi explains why he can't copy it, he says it's because it's part of Haku's Kekkei Genkai which is later explained as Ice Release. -EriHonjo, Kira and Sarah M. (talk) 08:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

ok now i understand what your getting at. not all elemental techniques have "---- release" in it. the technique was listed as Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals in the databook (which is the most cannocal source), and thats how it shall stay. (talk) 08:22, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Just because it was written in the data book doesn't mean it can't be changed. It is written in the manga that Haku's Kekkei Genkai is Ice Release. Which makes it just as much cannon. The databook that the justu was written in was written a long time ago. Things change and more mysteries are solved the longer the manga goes on. All of the 1st Hokage's justu are listed as Wood Release even though when some were shown back in the Hokage fight they were just called secret techniques. -EriHonjo, Kira and Sarah M. (talk) 08:37, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

its not like that ughh!! that was the way the NAME (just its name) was written, its still ice release it just doesnt have it in the name. thats the way its been for years and that is exactly how it shall stay unless kishimoto-sensei decides to change it, either by databook or directly called ice release: demonic mirroring ice crystals. i hereby anounce this discussion closed end of story. (talk) 08:40, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Who are you to end this discussion? I am asking for opinions of multiple editors of this site who have kept this site up and running for many years. I myself am a rather new editor and as such I'm asking the opinion of more experienced people. If you don't want to take part in this discussion anymore then you don't have to. Thank you for your opinion I will keep it in mind but until I feel satisfied (or until someone of more experience says so) this discussion will stay open. -EriHonjo, Kira and Sarah M. (talk) 08:48, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

actually i've been an anonymous user on this wiki since september 2010, i am very experienced. ask any editor you want they'l tell you the same thing, the technique is ice release but has never ever in the entire series not even games been called ice release: demonic mirroring ice crystals. and i'm sorry if i sound rude but there's been a lot of vandalising going on tonight. also don't expect any of the admins to be here for about 5 to 6 more hours, thats the time when cerez-san, omnibender-senpai, whiteflash-san etc. start log on. (talk) 08:53, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Alright, I apologize for saying you were inexperienced. And I respect your experience and opinion. However, I am looking for more than just your opinion on this matter as your opinion is just that, your opinion. I am looking for a somewhat general consensus on this matter. As another user and not an admin of any type you don't have the right to close my discussion. I don't want to come off as rude, I'm just trying to point out what to me seems to be a glaringly obvious mistake. And if I have to wait for the others to respond I am willing to do so. -EriHonjo, Kira and Sarah M. (talk) 09:45, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

i can understand how you would think im just a greenhorn. either way, my vote (i geuss you could call it that) is that it shouldn't be changed, cause its always called it demonic mirroring ice crystals and theres not enough info that says otherwise. but i will wait for others to put their word in (Even though it'l' be the same as what i'm tryin ta say). (talk) 09:58, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Actually Yomiko-swān is right. We use direct translations here, so if the technique was never called "Ice Release: X" it won't be named such because that's inaccurate. However all his Ice Release techniques are listed as such, so this shouldn't be an issue.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 10:19, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

yomiko-swān? whats that? (talk) 10:26, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

I think Cerez is just pulling one on you Yomiko-chan. 10:33, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

ohhh, hehe that would make sense. (talk) 10:41, August 4, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan