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It appears that having the fair use rationale stuff automatically placed into the summary box on the upload page is allowing users to upload without actually editing it, since the image policy just says that the fair use rationale template needs to be there, along with license data for it to be allowed. This has resulted in many uploads (most of which are deleted) recently containing invalid rationales because users are now being lazy in filling it out, which means users are actually having to look at images before tagging them for deletion (before it was much easier to see if an image was violating the policy or not). Please use this thread to discuss whether having preformatted fair use rationales has any real benefits to the wiki. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 15:51, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I think that it does. It aids people who make proper image uploads, and if people upload images without filling them out, despite the job being made easier to them, and after having been warned about it, it only makes their blocking more justifiable. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:34, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I knew this would come up sooner or later. Thats the reason I preferred preformatted templates... But they were very hard coded. So starting from scratch, I made a robust, flexible {{File Information}} template. Clear cache and see the upload page.~ UltimateSupreme 16:57, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
- I have tested it and it works, so I think we should keep it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:38, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Do we need these fancy additions to the upload page ? It doesn't matter if you put in all these fields since half the people will ignore them. Plus, your new addition does not use the proper fair use rationale template either which breaks the consistency of use across the wiki. Can we please actually have these changes discussed so that people can drop their opinions in about them before putting them in ? It's getting annoying when people make changes without bringing it up with the rest of the wiki, since there has been quite a few changes made that have been made without actual discussion made with the rest of the site and some of which I think are pointless. I dislike sysops going off and doing their own thing without talking to the wiki. At least Wikia staff have the courtesy to make a thread in these forums when they're about to make a change to the wiki so that we can discuss it and make suggestions on improving their idea, but there's at least 1 sysop here who doesn't bother to say anything to us and just makes changes and expects us to just deal with them. I also just reverted an unnecessary change to our {{Fair use rationale}} template as it was changed without any kind of discussion as well. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 13:14, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I have tested it and it works, so I think we should keep it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:38, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I knew this would come up sooner or later. Thats the reason I preferred preformatted templates... But they were very hard coded. So starting from scratch, I made a robust, flexible {{File Information}} template. Clear cache and see the upload page.~ UltimateSupreme 16:57, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm of the same mindset as Jacce. It's been tested, it works, it stays. There is no reason to change it, to come up with new methods, when the one we have works plenty well. ~ Ten Tailed Fox
13:59, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm of the same mindset as Jacce. It's been tested, it works, it stays. There is no reason to change it, to come up with new methods, when the one we have works plenty well. ~ Ten Tailed Fox