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Hey Naruto Fans! We're really excited to announce a new partnership with Crunchyroll.com to bring you full episodes of Naruto! We know how hard you guys work on the wiki and we believe that this will bring even more traffic and users to the site! It's a great way for Naruto fans to watch episodes and discuss right on the wiki. We hope that you're as excited as we are about this partnership!

Happy Watching! Kate.moon (talk) 00:58, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sigh, when did this site become a business, and besides more traffic and users = more vandals and spammers - something we don't need. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 01:00, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
^This. We're not a social network, we're not forums. We don't discuss the series, we're not an online board. We list and document the information. I've have already left a wiki I invested a lot on, I will not allow it to happen again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:07, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
There's literally hundreds of other sites one can go to discuss Naruto things, Narutopedia is not one of them. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 01:11, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Wait, I'm confused. Is Narutopedia already in a partnership with Crunchyroll.com, or has it not yet been decided?
Edit: scratch what I said, I read around. I just want to say I'd be fine with just the episodes, but please leave it at that. While I love "Avatar", its wiki has turned to a fanfiction site where practically anything can be posted. I don't want that to happen here. --Cidem1324 (talk) 01:16, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I made to bureaucrat there, and even I don't go there often now. The only reason I have yet to request to have sysop and bureaucrat rights removed is because I dare hope doing something there once Korra comes out. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:26, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved the video page to the project namespace, I think it fits better there.

Guys, this is not about changing your site away from being a Naruto resource. It's about a magnificent opportunity to partner with someone totally relevant to the wiki and show more of the world what a great wiki you have created. Please don't jump on it negatively just because it's something we set up :)

One of the most frequent questions we get is "how do I promote my wiki?", "how do I get new people to read the content and start to contribute to the site?"... and every now and then we get a chance to actually help a wiki by arranging something like this. Crunchyroll will link to the wiki, and we have permission to link to full episodes from here. Please give it a chance. If you don't like it after a couple of weeks, then fair enough... but let's see how this goes!

Thanks all -- sannse WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 01:34, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Is there money in this for Wikia? that's the only reason that's logical for Wikia to care about something like this all of a sudden. —This unsigned comment was made by 74.63.112.138 (talkcontribs) .
Erm, we have already been linking to full episodes for over a year. Was that bad? I just have been to lazy to add the original series links to crunchyroll since it requires membership. SimAnt 01:39, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I think the IP meant the officialness of the arrangement. Anyway, this sudden promoting of the wiki feels eerily familiar to how things felt at the Avatar wiki before it started becoming what it is today. Nothing I say or do will change this, so there's no point in me complaining about it. I hope for the best, but I'll plan for the worst. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:41, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
^ I might use what you said as a quote one day Omni. Anyways, should the links for the original eps. be added, some users (like myself) have crunchyroll memberships. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 01:46, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I do say that with some frequency, but I'm not the one who should be credited. I saw that once in an X-Men Evolutions fanfic. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:48, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Oh yes, I'd also greatly appreciate a message to users before they try navigating through season one episodes, that a membership is required, it will slightly lessen their disappointment. SimAnt 01:57, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
What about just a disclaimer saying you need an account when you click on the link? ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 02:12, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I don't see much of a problem with this. Though, in addition to some warning that a membership is needed to watch the first series, I'd like the episode order to be flipped (ie. 1 → 2, not 2 → 1). ~SnapperTo 02:32, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but could you explain what you mean about the flipping thing? I didn't catch that. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 02:35, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
The seasons are in order, the episodes in them are not. SimAnt 02:45, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
For example: Shippuden season 1 goes from 32 to 31 to 30, and so on. The original season 1 also goes from 2 to 1 to 12 to 11 for some reason. ~SnapperTo 02:49, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I see what you mean now. When should I start adding the links? ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 02:51, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Add links where? To the episode articles? Most of that job has already been done. The infobox just needs to be modified to link to the special page instead of Crunchyroll itself. ~SnapperTo 02:58, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Season 2 episodes have no login link for people with a cr membership to get past the ads unless they're already logged in, and it's also missing the various Favorite/Rating/Comment parts on CR. We might as well just keep the links pointing to where they already are. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 5, 2011 @ 03:11 (UTC) 03:11, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I meant add them to the actual episode article like we do in the Shippūden episodes, add a |watchonlinelink= parameter to the Original Naruto episodes that are missing them. To watch one of the videos in this new format, I'd have to go to cr and sign in, and come back to this site. So this whay you'd just click the link to cr and watch them. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 03:20, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Might as well. ~SnapperTo 06:41, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
I am not necessarily against this. However, I won't accept it if Crunchyroll starts getting any special privileges, authority, or priorities. Narutopedia should at any time remain neutral. I also rather dislike the idea of sending our readers to link where they have to pay before being able to enjoy the content, but this is a minor concern.
That said, why doesn't the Wikia staff simply ask before doing things like this? That's what Wikia is all about, right? Communities working together to create a good site? When the staff starts practically forcing things on the actual editors and readers, it ruins this concept. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 16:23, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with ShounenSuki. I will...accept this for now. But if CrunchyRoll, or Wikia starts trying to tell us how to edit, then there will be problems.--TheUltimate3 ~Aspect of Wiki ~ 18:21, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

I gotta ask, even though I think I know what the answer will be. Could this count as our "sponsored links" and get Special:ADSS removed? SimAnt 19:44, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

If it's such a problem, why not just use Hulu, or some sort of fansite that has all of the Naruto Episodes on it? Well, the fansite may not be all that good of an idea, so never mind that.--NinjaSheik 02:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hulu is only available to readers in North America. ~SnapperTo 02:42, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...I used to visit Crunchyroll, too, until they started making visitors create an account just to watch it. A fansite could be problem due to various reasons. It think it'd be cool if we could list episodes in the pages so people can go and watch it. But, forcing them create an account and stuff for something like is not worth it. Too troublesome.

A fansite could work, if there wasn't the problems with the facts that links can removed or broken. Sutff like YouTube or using DubHappy, JustDubs, or anything else is out of the question, right?--NinjaSheik 02:47, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

An account is only necessary if you want to watch Part I episodes, or if you want to watch a Shippūden episode within the first week of its airing. After one week, all Shippūden episodes are free to watch. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:56, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that still doesn't sound like a fair deal. Lots of people would want to go to a place where they can Part I episodes. If we can't find a solution, should just forget about adding episodes link to the Narutopedia? It isn't absolutely nescessary, is it?--NinjaSheik 02:59, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Do we link to part I episodes at crunchyroll? I remember seeing a link once or twice, but never systematically as part II links. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:08, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflicted) Besides CR and Hulu, the sites you list deal in illegal videos, there is no way we would support them. One correction needs to be made also, Hulu is not 'North America', it's 'USA'. Those of us in Canada and other parts of NA have no access to Hulu despite the fact that Viz should in fact have the license to broadcast here, it's Hulu that restricts to US only. As for CR it's only the original 'Naruto' anime and the latest simulcast episode that require a premium account. While it's regrettable that the original anime is not available under a free-with-advertising model, that probably has something to do with Viz's DVD distribution of the series, so there isn't much we can do. We're talking about a premium anime that costs money to produce and license, be happy you can watch the series online for such a cheap price. It's not our business trying to bypass the revenue stream that pays for the creation of the anime we're watching. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 12, 2011 @ 03:09 (UTC) 03:09, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

I did a skimming but it sounds like teh problem is where do we watch videos regardless of account videos. While I am up in arms for the dubbed, for subbed, Naruto.com is just a good place as any.Umishiru (talk) 12:56, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, Naruto.com is nothing but Viz embedding Hulu. Same videos, iirc lower quality (I think I heard something about Hulu only serving HD to viewers watching directly from Hulu), and of course the same ridiculously narrow region restrictions. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 16, 2011 @ 13:11 (UTC) 13:11, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yes yes, naruto.com does use Hulu, which cause the same problems of the restriction. If this is a think Wikia wants we have to follow it I suppose. The only issue I see is none U.S. users throwing a fit over not being able to watch a video, but that's something that can technically be resolved a series of ways that don't involve us at all.--TheUltimate3 ~Aspect of Wiki ~ 16:05, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

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