Forum:A Thin Line Between Overhype and the Proper Use of Facts

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Introduction

Ok, so there seems to be A LOT, and i do mean A LOT of talk between the difference between overhype and pointing out what the facts lead us too. Based off common sense, this shouldnt be needed, but it's good to get this issue out in the open. On an off note, im glad to be back editing on the wiki. I took a break, but noticed a lot of the same argument so, this is totally necessary if you seem to think otherwise.

So, let's just do the best we can and try to sum up, or even list, the differences to make it clear how we will construct character articles in the future. This will help end the edit wars. Now, if I can recall, this recently started w/ Naruto and Kurama's, then even Minato's, article. (Even Madara's suffered much scrutiny) But, from what i can tell, this deconstruction of articles seems to make some say that we are instead "devaluing" or rather "understating" the importance and power of the character, and their accomplishments.

Does anyone have any say? KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 01:14, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Discussion

I believe the line between overhype and proper use of facts are the situations like this: Proper use of facts: "Madara has legendary ability", Overhype "Madara has legendary and awesome combat prowess, intelligence, and skill."

Both are true. One is clearly a fanboy gushing over Madara's great power.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 01:17, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

To wit, using the Sasori example. Here is what was previously written:

Sasori was a very powerful shinobi and a highly analytical and cunning man. Sasori's use of his puppets was greatly feared throughout the Third Shinobi World War as he turned the sand red with blood, giving him the nickname, "Sasori of the Red Sand". Sasori's abilities also gave him the power to defeat and kill the Third Kazekage, who was said to be the strongest ninja in the history of Sunagakure, though Sasori stated that he had some trouble defeating him. Deidara himself even admitted that Sasori was the stronger of the two of them.

And now the one being called "overhyped"

Sasori was one of the most powerful shinobi ever produced in Sunagakure and a highly analytical and cunning man. Sasori's abilities also gave him the power to defeat and kill the Third Kazekage, who was said to be the strongest ninja in the history of Sunagakure, though Sasori stated that he had some trouble defeating him. Deidara himself even admitted that Sasori was the stronger of the two of them. Sasori's use of his puppets was greatly feared throughout the Third Shinobi World War as he turned the sand red with blood, giving him the moniker, "Sasori of the Red Sand".

The biggest difference between these two is primarily the first sentence, where it was added that "Sasori was one of the most powerful shinobi every produced in Sunagakure". After that, things just get rearranged. Now, was Sasori a great shinobi from Suna? Yes he was. But is it actually necessary to mention? That can be argued.--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 01:28, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well put. I understand that alot of it is argueable, but the facts of Sasor's accomplishment clearly point towards the latter edit. But now that brings me to what i referred to in the summary of my edit. What about the characters like Orochimaru, Minato, and other characters? How is that edit any different form what is listed on theri pages? KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 01:45, November 3, 2013 (UTC)