GodlyHades wrote:
First question here: Have you even seen the movie?i skipped the boring parts(around 80% of the movie) but yes, i watched it...
GodlyHades wrote: I. There is no such thing as a super chidori. They displayed Sasuke’s chidori which was able to bust through boulders (Chunin arc), now his chakra is more potent he is now able to destroy larger earthly substances without using his Perfect Susano’o.
Of course, you can’t show me one part in the movie where KCM Naruto fought RSM mode Toneri and was struggling. He was even back to back, and actually over-powered him.he needed hinatas help in order to defeat toneri, if he cold have done it with RSM whhy not using it??
and, yes, his chidori became "super", did you see what he was able to blow away with it? it was as big as konoha himself and he pulverized it, "more potent" isnt really fitting ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
II. “I think” That’s you problem, and that’s why you lose. There is no such thing as you THINK, because you are not right (no offense). In fact, your opinion is so meaningless towards this subject because you have no claim to your THOUGHT, other than your opinion. Bring facts, or none at all.it is still better than using "this world reasons" in a "fictional worlds argument"... maybe you didnt understand so i will rephrase it: "our world reason for bolt not getting the byakugan" = "kishi forgot it", "in-story reaosn"="bolt didnt inherit the byakugan form her mother" ^_^
if i go with your route and mix this two than debating about anyhting fictional is pointless since i could always win after i say "the author will make it happen" :(
so, you dont have any in-story reaosn why naruto didnt use RSM even while he had it.... fine, which mean naruto is a retard who didnt go all out even while the fate of the world was on the line -_- or, he lost his RSM ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
Again like I've stated a few times, show me a scan of him losing it, if not, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to sound rude, but your ASSUMPTIONS are completely absurd.if you ignore them im not at fault ^_^ i never claimed them as facts like you think i do, i have my opinion and your way of changing it via "no, what you think is BS" doesnt improve, i understand the "real world reason", i simply dont accept them as "in-story reason" too, it sounds cheap ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: “But GodlyHades, you are making assumptions too!”
..How? Where did it state that Naruto lost RSM in the manga, or the movie?when did i write that?
GodlyHades wrote:
I’m guessing Sauske lost the Perfect Susano’o too, since he did not use it Lol. <- That's exactly how you are being towards RSM.no it doesnt because sasuke didnt have a reason to use PS, it is as if you would say "tsunade only used once a fire release jutsu, but than never again, that means she lost it, despite the fact she never needed it again" ^_^
and, yes, naruto needed help, if not, hinata wouldnt have to team up with him in order to defeat toneri ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: Hope you are understanding me now ^_^
i do, unfortunatly you resfuse to understand me, btw, understanding and accepting are completly different things ^_^
GreatestSin wrote:
GodlyHades wrote:
First question here: Have you even seen the movie?i skipped the boring parts(around 80% of the movie) but yes, i watched it...
GodlyHades wrote: I. There is no such thing as a super chidori. They displayed Sasuke’s chidori which was able to bust through boulders (Chunin arc), now his chakra is more potent he is now able to destroy larger earthly substances without using his Perfect Susano’o.
Of course, you can’t show me one part in the movie where KCM Naruto fought RSM mode Toneri and was struggling. He was even back to back, and actually over-powered him.he needed hinatas help in order to defeat toneri, if he cold have done it with RSM whhy not using it??
and, yes, his chidori became "super", did you see what he was able to blow away with it? it was as big as konoha himself and he pulverized it, "more potent" isnt really fitting ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
II. “I think” That’s you problem, and that’s why you lose. There is no such thing as you THINK, because you are not right (no offense). In fact, your opinion is so meaningless towards this subject because you have no claim to your THOUGHT, other than your opinion. Bring facts, or none at all.it is still better than using "this world reasons" in a "fictional worlds argument"... maybe you didnt understand so i will rephrase it: "our world reason for bolt not getting the byakugan" = "kishi forgot it", "in-story reaosn"="bolt didnt inherit the byakugan form her mother" ^_^
if i go with your route and mix this two than debating about anyhting fictional is pointless since i could always win after i say "the author will make it happen" :(
so, you dont have any in-story reaosn why naruto didnt use RSM even while he had it.... fine, which mean naruto is a retard who didnt go all out even while the fate of the world was on the line -_- or, he lost his RSM ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
Again like I've stated a few times, show me a scan of him losing it, if not, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to sound rude, but your ASSUMPTIONS are completely absurd.if you ignore them im not at fault ^_^ i never claimed them as facts like you think i do, i have my opinion and your way of changing it via "no, what you think is BS" doesnt improve, i understand the "real world reason", i simply dont accept them as "in-story reason" too, it sounds cheap ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: “But GodlyHades, you are making assumptions too!”
..How? Where did it state that Naruto lost RSM in the manga, or the movie?when did i write that?
GodlyHades wrote:
I’m guessing Sauske lost the Perfect Susano’o too, since he did not use it Lol. <- That's exactly how you are being towards RSM.no it doesnt because sasuke didnt have a reason to use PS, it is as if you would say "tsunade only used once a fire release jutsu, but than never again, that means she lost it, despite the fact she never needed it again" ^_^
and, yes, naruto needed help, if not, hinata wouldnt have to team up with him in order to defeat toneri ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: Hope you are understanding me now ^_^
i do, unfortunatly you resfuse to understand me, btw, understanding and accepting are completly different things ^_^
1. Nah from reading your comments, you don’t understand the movie at all. Let me educate you.
2. Yes, Naruto needed Hinata’s help to destroy the Tenseigen, which can ONLY be destroyed with Hamura’s chakra.
3. Nope. There is no such thing as a super chidori, it’s Sasuke’s chakra that makes the technique more potent. Educate yourself on how techniques work in Naruto, quality =/= quantity.
4. There is no discussion here. Naruto never lost RSM, because nothing in the Manga supports this. If it was stated, it happened. Nothing you can say can change that aspect, and be prepared to look lower than what you are now as you keep spouting nonsense.
5. Thank you. Now you understand why Naruto never used RSM. “No it doesn’t because Sasuke didn’t have a reason to use PS” … What reason did Naruto have for using RSM against Toneri? I’m assuming since you watched the movie, he stalemated and overpowered him indefinitely.
Already stated that Naruto could not destroy the Tenseigen without Hamura’s chakra, which was explained in the movie ^_^
6. I’m glad you can comprehend the most simplistic of notions towards an arguable agreement in your native lower intellect of cognizance which equals those of a norm.
Btw, you accepted everything I stated when you said Sasuke did not use PS because he didn’t need to.
“need to”
… need to
Naruto didn’t need to. So he lost something? Nah, if Naruto lost RSM because he didn’t need to use it. You are basically saying Sasuke lost Perfect SUsano’o too. Check, and mate.
GodlyHades wrote:
1.Nah from reading your comments, you don’t understand the movie at all. Let me educate you.thanks ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
2.Yes, Naruto needed Hinata’s help to destroy the Tenseigen, which can ONLY be destroyed with Hamura’s chakra.that was stated in the movie? if that is true than.... ok :/
GodlyHades wrote:
3.Nope. There is no such thing as a super chidori, it’s Sasuke’s chakra that makes the technique more potent. Educate yourself on how techniques work in Naruto, quality =/= quantity.you dont really get what i tried to say do you? super-chidori as in "overpowered version", compare the manga-chidori with the movie-chidori, it looks like f*cking energy-blast, it is "super" XD lets forget this since it is really useless ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
5.Thank you. Now you understand why Naruto never used RSM. “No it doesn’t because Sasuke didn’t have a reason to use PS” … What reason did Naruto have for using RSM against Toneri? I’m assuming since you watched the movie, he stalemated and overpowered him indefinitely.which is still idiotic, overpowering the villian with all your strength is the most logical route, it still would be retarded of him not to go all out, and no, sasuke didnt have a reaosn to go all out since a piece of stone cant suprise you, but a sentient enemy can...
for the bolded part: maybe that the world wasin danger? his friends? hinata?
GodlyHades wrote:
Already stated that Naruto could not destroy the Tenseigen without Hamura’s chakra, which was explained in the movie ^_^ok...
GodlyHades wrote:
6.I’m glad you can comprehend the most simplistic of notions towards an arguable agreement in your native lower intellect of cognizance which equals those of a norm.english isnt my first language but i think this post is clearly insulting, why?
GodlyHades wrote:
Btw, you accepted everything I stated when you said Sasuke did not use PS because he didn’t need to.oh, yeah, still didnt get what i said did you? i dont accept it, i understand it, two different things ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: Naruto didn’t need to. So he lost something? Nah, if Naruto lost RSM because he didn’t need to use it. You are basically saying Sasuke lost Perfect SUsano’o too. Check, and mate.
why shouldnt he need to go all out? i already said what i think about it...
PS: since im sleepy and dont see this going anywhere how is it if we simply agree to disagree? your points dont really change my opinion since they are as half-assed as mine ^_^
GreatestSin wrote:
GodlyHades wrote:
1.Nah from reading your comments, you don’t understand the movie at all. Let me educate you.thanks ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
2.Yes, Naruto needed Hinata’s help to destroy the Tenseigen, which can ONLY be destroyed with Hamura’s chakra.that was stated in the movie? if that is true than.... ok :/
GodlyHades wrote:
3.Nope. There is no such thing as a super chidori, it’s Sasuke’s chakra that makes the technique more potent. Educate yourself on how techniques work in Naruto, quality =/= quantity.you dont really get what i tried to say do you? super-chidori as in "overpowered version", compare the manga-chidori with the movie-chidori, it looks like f*cking energy-blast, it is "super" XD lets forget this since it is really useless ^_^
GodlyHades wrote:
5.Thank you. Now you understand why Naruto never used RSM. “No it doesn’t because Sasuke didn’t have a reason to use PS” … What reason did Naruto have for using RSM against Toneri? I’m assuming since you watched the movie, he stalemated and overpowered him indefinitely.which is still idiotic, overpowering the villian with all your strength is the most logical route, it still would be retarded of him not to go all out, and no, sasuke didnt have a reaosn to go all out since a piece of stone cant suprise you, but a sentient enemy can...
for the bolded part: maybe that the world wasin danger? his friends? hinata?
GodlyHades wrote:
Already stated that Naruto could not destroy the Tenseigen without Hamura’s chakra, which was explained in the movie ^_^ok...
GodlyHades wrote:
6.I’m glad you can comprehend the most simplistic of notions towards an arguable agreement in your native lower intellect of cognizance which equals those of a norm.english isnt my first language but i think this post is clearly insulting, why?
GodlyHades wrote:
Btw, you accepted everything I stated when you said Sasuke did not use PS because he didn’t need to.oh, yeah, still didnt get what i said did you? i dont accept it, i understand it, two different things ^_^
GodlyHades wrote: Naruto didn’t need to. So he lost something? Nah, if Naruto lost RSM because he didn’t need to use it. You are basically saying Sasuke lost Perfect SUsano’o too. Check, and mate.
why shouldnt he need to go all out? i already said what i think about it...
PS: since im sleepy and dont see this going anywhere how is it if we simply agree to disagree? your points dont really change my opinion since they are as half-assed as mine ^_^
1. I understand what you are saying, but you don’t understand how the Chidori operates. An energy blast? Re-watch the scene in slow motion on Youtube, it performs and operate as a simple chidori. Though I agree, let’s drop it
2. Idiotic how? Toneri was unable to weaken Naruto Naruto destroyed Toneri until the Tenseigen appeared in which Hamura’s chakra was needed If TONERI was a monster that needed RSM/Rinnegan, Sasuke would of joined the battle
The world was endangered? I think I already stated 3 times that Kumogakure had a cannon to destroy the moon, which Kakashi told Naruto’s team that would happen if they were too late _-_ Hinata was watching the fight in a bird cage. How was she in a life threatening situation? Hmph
Lastly: Prove that Naruto lost RSM in the movie or the manga. Then you can respond to my post, because your opinion is meaningless without facts. Understand now?
You cannot say “He lost something” because he did not “use it”
That’s on equal par of saying Sasuke lost Perfect Susano’o or saying Naruto lost Rasenshuriken (Fuuton version) which his Rasenshuriken variants in the movie involved chakra, not wind.
Understand what I’m clearly pointing out in your fail logic?
Kakashi lost the Sharingan, right? How do we know? It was in the manga
Sasuke has the Rinnegan, right? How do we know? It was in the manga
Naruto has RSM, right? How do we know? It was in the manga
Give me one manga scan, show me one video of it stating Naruto lost Rikudou chakra from his body, then we can talk.
Mind you, can you explain this: I. Naruto was flying In the movie. How could he do this without Rikudou chakra? II. Naruto used a Yin/Yang type healing ability to remove a chakra substance from INSIDE Hinata’s body III. Naruto destroyed TruthSeekingBalls with rasengans
GodlyHades wrote:
Mind you, can you explain this: I. Naruto was flying In the movie. How could he do this without Rikudou chakra? II. Naruto used a Yin/Yang type healing ability to remove a chakra substance from INSIDE Hinata’s body III. Naruto destroyed TruthSeekingBalls with rasengans
I. I wouldn't really count that as flight. He was standing on the ground for the most part
II. Since when is pulling a mind-controlling orb out of someone healing?
III. Coughs Senjutsu Coughs
@godlyhades
seems like it is pointless to talk with you about this... so, lets agree to disagree...
btw, for II: yin-yang-control =/= RSM ^_^
+ the stuff ultimadude said ^_^
UltimaDude wrote:
GodlyHades wrote:
Mind you, can you explain this: I. Naruto was flying In the movie. How could he do this without Rikudou chakra? II. Naruto used a Yin/Yang type healing ability to remove a chakra substance from INSIDE Hinata’s body III. Naruto destroyed TruthSeekingBalls with rasengans
I. I wouldn't really count that as flight. He was standing on the ground for the most part
II. Since when is pulling a mind-controlling orb out of someone healing?
III. Coughs Senjutsu Coughs
I. I'll have to break it down for you, I guess.
Firstly, go watch the fight on youtube in slow motion. When both Naruto/Toneri finish their clash and hover above, Naruto forms a rasengan (the one with mini rasengans around it) and charges forward at Toneri. Look at his feet, he pushes off nothing to fly towards Toneri. There is a small meteorite behind him, but if you look closely and use your common sense. IF he had pushed off of that, the small meotorite would of went outwards, instead it continued to hover upwards.
Next, one in space cannot move with a velocity without first accelerating. The rate at which an object changes its position, Naruto could not do that without first touching objects in advance to push off of. Which he only did for a few seconds, then afterwards he was continuously using nothing to remain hovered.
II. Since when did Naruto ever showcase abilities like that without meeting the Sage?
III. Very true.
GreatestSin wrote: @godlyhades
seems like it is pointless to talk with you about this... so, lets agree to disagree...
btw, for II: yin-yang-control =/= RSM ^_^
+ the stuff ultimadude said ^_^
Of course it's pointless when arguing with me, because you were totally wrong from the beginning.
Btw, yin-yang control =/= RSM -- Yet you didn't know Naruto gained Yin-Yang control after meeting the Sage. Your such a joke :/
+ I just replied to ultimadude, and he was wrong, like you of course ~
Moving on.
GodlyHades wrote:
Next, one in space cannot move with a velocity without first accelerating. The rate at which an object changes its position, Naruto could not do that without first touching objects in advance to push off of. Which he only did for a few seconds, then afterwards he was continuously using nothing to remain hovered.are you really trying to argue with real-world-physic-laws for naruto?
GodlyHades wrote:
Of course it's pointless when arguing with me, because you were totally wrong from the beginning.i dont care anymore, you keep saying the same thing, its truly pointless :/
GodlyHades wrote:
Btw, yin-yang control =/= RSM -- Yet you didn't know Naruto gained Yin-Yang control after meeting the Sage. Your such a joke :/and now the insults again, why insulting? did i insult you? make a joke about you? ever? + your argument doesnt make sense, the fact that he gained yin-yang-release after meeting the sage doesnt... ah, forget it, it is pointless, i dont need to waste more time on this BS...
GreatestSin wrote:
GodlyHades wrote:
Next, one in space cannot move with a velocity without first accelerating. The rate at which an object changes its position, Naruto could not do that without first touching objects in advance to push off of. Which he only did for a few seconds, then afterwards he was continuously using nothing to remain hovered.are you really trying to argue with real-world-physic-laws for naruto?
GodlyHades wrote:
Of course it's pointless when arguing with me, because you were totally wrong from the beginning.i dont care anymore, you keep saying the same thing, its truly pointless :/
GodlyHades wrote:
Btw, yin-yang control =/= RSM -- Yet you didn't know Naruto gained Yin-Yang control after meeting the Sage. Your such a joke :/and now the insults again, why insulting? did i insult you? make a joke about you? ever? + your argument doesnt make sense, the fact that he gained yin-yang-release after meeting the sage doesnt... ah, forget it, it is pointless, i dont need to waste more time on this BS...
I already proved it here. He was flying, no doubt about it: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:163094
Anything else, we're done. If I said anything wrong, forgive me, but I only meant to discuss the topics from the beginning. It doesn't matter now though, so let's just move on.